Jynnan tonnix November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Churchhoney said: Cold waffles? Seriously? Cold waffles? .... I want the butter to melt on my waffle. There probably wasn't any butter. Ergo, problem solved! They probably figure just getting Mrs. Butterworth's (or the generic equivalent thereof) kills both those birds with one stone. There HAD to at least have been syrup, right....? Edited November 7, 2018 by Jynnan tonnix 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814844
GeeGolly November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 I wonder if any guests have walked away from a Duggar wedding reception saying, "Wow, that was wonderful." 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814865
lucy711 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, Westiepeach said: Wait. Let me wrap my head around this. You would rather have an intimate reception with people you actually know, serving them a good meal? Rather than invite 1,000 people and serving Fruit Loops? I know, I'm insane! When I got married I was pressured by my mother-in-law to invite some relatives that I had never met (we dated for 6 years), and I did. I regret that a little because I have these people in my wedding album whose names I don't know. I got married ten years ago and I haven't seen them since. I'd hate for them to think I invited them for more gifts. So the airplane hanger wedding would have been nightmare for me! 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814899
Lunera November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 I thought Jessa had changed into the stretched out cardigan after the wedding but I guess that was her outfit. Yeah, Anna is definitely preggo. 11 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814946
ginger90 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 (edited) Videos: Edited November 7, 2018 by ginger90 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814949
Popular Post jcbrown November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 WTH is MEchelle wearing? Oversized gingham? Jessa's hair is so scraggly and needs 18 inches hacked off. Jana and Kendra both look nice. 36 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814964
Popular Post cmr2014 November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, jcbrown said: WTH is MEchelle wearing? Oversized gingham? Jessa's hair is so scraggly and needs 18 inches hacked off. Jana and Kendra both look nice. Holy crap, she just can't put herself together for any reason, can she? Would it really be such a sin to buy a magazine and look at what adult women wear to weddings? Would it really be such a sin to go to a goddamn store and ask someone to help her pick out a dress for her son's wedding? 34 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814975
Popular Post BitterApple November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 (edited) Jesus take the wheel. Did Michelle seriously wear a gingham button-down to her son's wedding?! I think I need to put my phone down and take a lap around the neighborhood. Edited November 7, 2018 by BitterApple 31 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814978
Popular Post FizzyPuff November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 Uh Anna’s pregnant again! How can she even touch Josh. 28 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4814993
ozziemom November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Love the random people running around in the background of the videos. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815013
Popular Post louannems November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 40 minutes ago, BitterApple said: Jesus take the wheel. Did Michelle seriously wear a gingham button-down to her son's wedding?! I think I need to put my phone down and take a lap around the neighborhood. Not only cutesy gingham, but she tied the blouse into a knot at her waist, which is way too cutesy and young for Michelle. 38 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815037
QuinnInND November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 45 minutes ago, Puffin said: Uh Anna’s pregnant again! How can she even touch Josh. Is she pregnant or just has baby weight she hasn't lost from having 5 kids one after the other. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815049
Popular Post Chicklet November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 By the time Josie licks a groom, Meecheell and Blob will be dressed in PJS and will roll up in office chairs. 1 41 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815050
QuinnInND November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 59 minutes ago, jcbrown said: Jessa's hair is so scraggly and needs 18 inches hacked off. What?? Cut her crowning glory?? Sacrilege! 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815051
Ijustwantsomechips November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lunera said: I thought Jessa had changed into the stretched out cardigan after the wedding but I guess that was her outfit. Yeah, Anna is definitely preggo. Why isn’t Giddyup wearing at least some socks? It looks ridiculous. Austin’s suit looks and fits nicely. Would someone please tell these fundie brides (and Gypsy brides) that bridesmaides dresses come in other colors besides various shades of pink. Yep, Anna’s preggie and MOTY is a moron. ETA: No SiRen sighting? Edited November 7, 2018 by Ijustwantsomechips 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815074
Lunera November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, QuinnInND said: Is she pregnant or just has baby weight she hasn't lost from having 5 kids one after the other. Definitely pregnant, you can see it in her face. The top picture is from June 30, she had lost most of her baby weight from Mason. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815077
QuinnInND November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Just now, Lunera said: Definitely pregnant, you can see it in her face. The top picture is from June 30, she had lost most of her baby weight from Mason. Yeah, I see the difference now. Josh is such a slime. Yuck. The thought of him touching me makes me sick. I wonder if Anna goes somewhere else in her mind when he needs his desires "righteously fulfilled". 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815084
PradaKitty November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Congrats to JimBob on buying a new suit! 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815091
Kbo November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 For those who skipped over the Josh and Anna video (and really, who could blame you) Anna says something about Abbie joining the family in Arkansas. So I guess that ends the speculation about where they’ll live. I knew boob man wouldn’t give up his pilot. Jessa, get thee to a professional hair stylist immediately. You’re too pretty to go around with that scraggly mess. Lose a couple feet of hair and you’ll look so much better. I thought Ben looked nice, though. 23 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815111
PikaScrewChu November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Kbo said: For those who skipped over the Josh and Anna video (and really, who could blame you) Anna says something about Abbie joining the family in Arkansas. So I guess that ends the speculation about where they’ll live. I knew boob man wouldn’t give up his pilot. Jessa, get thee to a professional hair stylist immediately. You’re too pretty to go around with that scraggly mess. Lose a couple feet of hair and you’ll look so much better. I thought Ben looked nice, though. Beat me to it. And of course Smuggar had to emphasize about being married to Anna for TEN YEARS. Marriage expert, Joshua Duggar.Caught on Ashley Madison. Jana looked like she was ready to cry. I hope it was a good kind of cry. Edited November 7, 2018 by PikaScrewChu 24 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815119
kokapetl November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ginger90 said: Was alcohol served at this wedding? 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815148
BitterApple November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said: Jana looked like she was ready to cry. I hope it was a good kind of cry. I can't tell if it's a happy cry or whether Jana just realized she's the only one out of the older kids still at home. If I'm not mistaken the next oldest are the twins. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815154
awaken November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Love those vagina-esque earrings Anna is wearing in the top pic! 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815184
SMama November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 I really hope Jill changed Sam’s clothes after the ceremony. All the other parents managed to dress their kids for the occasion. If Izzy was the ring bearer he was appropriately dressed. I know I snark on Jill’s stupidity but I hope she proves me wrong this time. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815232
Nysha November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, BitterApple said: Jesus take the wheel. Did Michelle seriously wear a gingham button-down to her son's wedding?! I was at a grant writing training session last week and one of the women attending was wearing a gingham button-down with a ruffle the went all around the edge and had a belt that tied at the waist. My first thought was, "hey that looks like something a Duggar would wear". Didn't realize how right I was until I saw the picture of Michelle. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815249
Patricia07 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815252
McManda November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Not that it really matters, but I thought JD was running unopposed? 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815259
drafan November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, jcbrown said: WTH is MEchelle wearing? Oversized gingham? Jessa's hair is so scraggly and needs 18 inches hacked off. Jana and Kendra both look nice. That's beyond gingham...that's buffalo-check. And Boob must've directed her to tie it like his dream girl, Ellie Mae Clampett. Jessa's hair is revolting. I'm not even sure Locks of Love would take it. Boy, does Anna love those two-part bell sleeves. I couldn't click on her congratulatory video. Blech. Jana must've sneaked out to one of those spare hangars with Ben and a bong. 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815305
Rabbittron November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Because Clown Car is such a fashionista from now on all mothers of the groom will be wearing her outfit. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815331
Sew Sumi November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, McManda said: Not that it really matters, but I thought JD was running unopposed? He ran unopposed in the primary. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815370
madpsych78 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Jeez, Josh was sounding like Boob. "(Insert wife's name), can you believe it's been (insert number of years married) since the Lord blessed us with marriage?" or some stupid scripted shit. 1 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815371
Ijustwantsomechips November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 9 hours ago, Kbo said: So I guess that ends the speculation about where they’ll live. I knew boob man wouldn’t give up his pilot. Was there wver any doubt? The Bible says, “For where you go I will go and your people shall be my people.” I’m sure he saw her as Ruth busily gleaning wheat. But he’s no Boaz. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815532
JoanArc November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 11 hours ago, GeeGolly said: I wonder if any guests have walked away from a Duggar wedding reception saying, "Wow, that was wonderful." "Honey, it really makes our own wedding look SO MUCH BETTER!" Quote Cold waffles? Seriously? Cold waffles? .... I want the butter to melt on my waffle. I'd be OK with 'these waffles were hot 20 minutes ago', vs, 'these prefrozen waffles have been thawing in the back of a Duggar used SUV since 4 this morning'. Quote Holy crap, she just can't put herself together for any reason, can she? Would it really be such a sin to buy a magazine and look at what adult women wear to weddings? Would it really be such a sin to go to a goddamn store and ask someone to help her pick out a dress for her son's wedding? When you have a wedding every, what, 4-6 months you stop giving a shit. She's probably still trying to top the Tin Woodsman's dress. I think Anna, in true Jill style, is: 22 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815535
Madtown November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 (edited) Giddy Up is the best part of those pictures. Looks like he's trying to scream.."Get me away from this guy and family!" He may need to be added to @mynextmistake's stories of Sam trying to escape. Anyone who hasn't read those posts, needs to head the Jill and Derick thread. They are beyond awesome! Dear Jessa, Your hair is hideous. Edited November 7, 2018 by Madtown 20 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815571
lookeyloo November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 Agree with all comments and will add that for some reason JB and Michelle look younger than josh-u-a and Anna. For all of her hateful beliefs and actions I think Michelle is pretty even if she gussies herself up in her odd outfits. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815577
Popular Post Churchhoney November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 I have to laugh -- again -- at all the congrats messages that included some version of "can't wait to see what the Lord has in store for you!" ..... If that were a real sentiment instead of canned bullshit, it would be solid proof that they really are dumber than dirt. At this point, enough Duggarlings have attained adulthood and the married state to make it quite clear that the Lord has got absolutely no future events of interest up his sleeve for any of them. 35 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815641
Churchhoney November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 How the heck does Anna imagine they're going to support all these kids? .... I suppose she must just be living out the great Gothard life she was taught as a child to believe in or something....but geez..... Josh clearly has no functioning brain cells or he would go out and get that vasectomy. At one point, at least, he clearly knew better than to want an endless pile of children. And that was back when he may even have had some hopes for his job future. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815651
Popular Post momofsquid November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 I'm finding a disconnect regarding the Duggars' interpretation of hospitality versus their promotion of the traditional family lifestyle. My mother was born in 1929 and grew up in the middle of nowhere but she was a huge proponent of doing things Properly. For the most part I'm sure she would have been a huge fan of the Duggars' values but she would roll over in her grave if she saw how they treat guests. Mom financed our wedding and insisted on an open bar and full sit-down meal. To her, that is how a wedding is done, end of conversation. You limit your guest list to the number of people you're able to treat like royalty. I think we had about 70 because that's how many we could feed and accommodate in a nice little ballroom. Given the way the Duggars claim to embrace traditional values, I would have expected them to be on the same page as my mother. Old-fashioned hospitality, ya know? I guess it shows how they pick and choose which bits of an ideology suit their selfish little lives. 29 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815738
libgirl2 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 12 hours ago, PradaKitty said: Congrats to JimBob on buying a new suit! Its about time. 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815807
Ijustwantsomechips November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 If they weren’t so damned narrow-minded and felt so culturally superior, they could learn from others. Indian weddings tend to be very large, yet people get a full meal. There’s always been an abundance of food that I could see. Why can’t they serve casseroles (NOT Jill’s ), veggies and a carved meat with bulk dinner roles and punch. For people who stay in Sam’s, they sure don’t utilize it properly. This also illustrates that Abbie’s family is a bunch of idiots too since they probably planned a bulk of this cluster fuckery. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815808
libgirl2 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 1 minute ago, Ijustwantsomechips said: If they weren’t so damned narrow-minded and felt so culturally superior, they could learn from others. Indian weddings tend to be very large, yet people get a full meal. There’s always been an abundance of food that I could see. Why can’t they serve casseroles (NOT Jill’s ), veggies and a carved meat with bulk dinner roles and punch. For people who stay in Sam’s, they sure don’t utilize it properly. This also illustrates that Abbie’s family is a bunch of idiots too since they probably planned a bulk of this cluster fuckery. Even something simple like roast beef and buns with a salad and even ships on the side 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815814
leighdear November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 (edited) Jana looks partially hysterical and partially drunk. She's probably wondering if she can stash that dress to wear as McKenzie's bridesmaid in about 11 years. I will say the simple style isn't too bad, though a little garish. Anna's boobs look way too big for her not to be gestating #6, as she's not nursing #5. Edited November 7, 2018 by leighdear 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815821
QuinnInND November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 When my husband and I got married, we had a small ceremony in the backyard. We served a full meal. Texas style. Brisket, beans, potato salad, hot rolls, cole slaw. Nobody left hungry. The Duggars always try and do it the cheapest, easiest, most awful way possible. That food looked terrible. I would stop by Chick Fil A on the way home. Yeesh. 15 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815845
Popular Post BitterApple November 7, 2018 Popular Post Share November 7, 2018 15 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said: For people who stay in Sam’s, they sure don’t utilize it properly. This also illustrates that Abbie’s family is a bunch of idiots too since they probably planned a bulk of this cluster fuckery. Yeah, I'm kind of curious as to who decided that cold waffles in an airplane hangar in November was a swell idea. The fact that the Duggars were spotted in Chick Fil A afterwards is a strong indication people left the reception hungry. If you're in a venue that doesn't have a kitchen or heat source, then serve food that's actually meant to be eaten cold. Veggie trays, deli platters, dips, cheese and crackers etc. I don't understand why these people can't seem to get it right. 29 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815863
Barb23 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 How reliable is Pickle's source? It surprises me Josh was in JD's wedding. JD seemed very upset & disappointed with Josh over the molestations & probably the infidelity as well. As in being upset enough to not be included in my wedding upset. Maybe time healed things (can't see how) or JB had a say in the matter. I can't believe they would serve cold food. Didn't someone see chafing dishes? Maybe the food was cooked elsewhere & brought hot to the hangar & kept warm in the chafing dishes. Maybe they had a few backup microwaves to reheat as needed. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815869
libgirl2 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 12 minutes ago, BitterApple said: Yeah, I'm kind of curious as to who decided that cold waffles in an airplane hangar in November was a swell idea. The fact that the Duggars were spotted in Chick Fil A afterwards is a strong indication people left the reception hungry. If you're in a venue that doesn't have a kitchen or heat source, then serve food that's actually meant to be eaten cold. Veggie trays, deli platters, dips, cheese and crackers etc. I don't understand why these people can't seem to get it right. Even some mini-sandwiches or wraps. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815884
Barb23 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 2 hours ago, lookeyloo said: Agree with all comments and will add that for some reason JB and Michelle look younger than josh-u-a and Anna. For all of her hateful beliefs and actions I think Michelle is pretty even if she gussies herself up in her odd outfits. I really didn't recognize the Smuggars. I thought they were a middle aged friends of the family couple. If Anna isn't pregnant, she has had one hell of a boob job. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815910
Absolom November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, momofsquid said: Old-fashioned hospitality, ya know? I guess it shows how they pick and choose which bits of an ideology suit their selfish little lives. Traditional reception for Baptists in the south was the punch, cake, and mint stand up variety so the Duggars have been fairly true to their roots. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815925
Barb23 November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 13 hours ago, Kbo said: For those who skipped over the Josh and Anna video (and really, who could blame you) Anna says something about Abbie joining the family in Arkansas. So I guess that ends the speculation about where they’ll live. I knew boob man wouldn’t give up his pilot. Mechelle said something similar in their video that's she's happy JD & Abbie will be living close by & they can visit often (or something along those lines.) 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815943
JoanArc November 7, 2018 Share November 7, 2018 35 minutes ago, Barb23 said: It surprises me Josh was in JD's wedding. JD seemed very upset & disappointed with Josh over the molestations & probably the infidelity as well. As in being upset enough to not be included in my wedding upset. Maybe time healed things (can't see how) or JB had a say in the matter. You're supposed to show how forgiving you are, whether its true or not. Being in a wedding is nowhere near as bad as what they forced the girl victims to endure. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/73802-jd-and-abbie-captured-before-the-rapture/page/10/#findComment-4815945
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