Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[Zella]

11 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

“Energy giver” is a new one on me. 🤔 What does it mean exactly?

Your guess is as good as mine! 😄

I also thought it sounded vaguely dirty. . . .

[Rabbittron]

3 minutes ago, Zella said:

Your guess is as good as mine! 😄

I also thought it sounded vaguely dirty. . . .

[ginger90]

Courtesy of IBLP: (not the entire article)

[FizzyPuff]

47 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Courtesy of IBLP: (not the entire article)

None of this sounds like Josh.

[Marshmallow Mollie]

43 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Courtesy of IBLP: (not the entire article)

Love you, @ginger90! Not only do you keep us in the loop with the various Duggar social media outlets, but you also keep the conversation going with screenshots like this and the Jill Duggar recipe comparison. I am sure a large reason why this board is so lively is because of you!

So...energy giver. I suspect either Mama sees what Mama wants to see, or Josh is going over time faking it. If it’s the latter, another scandal is inevitable.

[JoanArc]

Enjoys good humor, but turns away from foolishness that hurts an harms others.

Are these people familiar with their collective since of humor?

[floridamom]

I don't think Michelle is an 'energy-giver'. 

[Zella]

14 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Courtesy of IBLP: (not the entire article)

Thank you for posting that! I have never heard that phrase from any of the fundies I've been around. Very interesting! Agreed with the other folks who think this sounds nothing like Josh!

[Sew Sumi]

I'd never heard the term in ANY context before today. Watching halftime of a college basketball game about an hour ago, one of the analysts observed that with a star player injured the team had no energy giver. I almost died laughing, because that analyst is about as far from fundie as you can get. 

[bythelake]

Did Jill,Jessa,Jinger or Joy post any loving birthday messages to their abuser? I didn’t see any messages but some of them did attend his party.

I don’t know how any of them (or their spouses) could have any interaction with Josh at all, especially when their “wonderful” parents rub it in their faces yet again, with a message extolling all his virtues.

If I thought for one minute that Josh has apologized to his sisters, maybe, just maybe I could see them forgiving him, but I doubt that has happened. Everything was swept under the rug.

I think JB and Meechelle still put all the blame on the girls.

What horrible people. 

[queenanne]

Yeah, that was... ill-advised, especially for the Parents of the Year.  If JB &M wanted to write all that plonk in a card, then go ahead; but nobody is fooled.  It couldn't be more obvious that inexplicably Josh continues to be their favourite, and that they will continue to make myriads of excuses for him until they die.  

[LilJen]

"HARD WORK"??? Yeah, keep trying, Anna. Just because you say it doesn't make it true.

[MamaMax]

On 12/20/2018 at 3:58 PM, Mindthinkr said:

I cannot understand how Anna feels comfortable with him touching her, knowing where his hands (and with the Ashley Madison connection any other...ahem parts) have been. Skeevy. 

"Lie back and thing of Gothard."

On 1/4/2019 at 8:32 PM, PikaScrewChu said:

It's interesting because the Duggar system was built on isolating rather than fostering healthy relationships and boundaries. Most of them seem to be in competition with one another in some shape or form and Anna herself has been a participant.

I often wonder if any of them actually do have dear friends (and not "dear friends" for the camera) or if the concept of friendship is totally lost on them.

How could they possibly know what a real friend is? They are so judgmental and afraid of everything.  All they have are acquaintances who are "like minded."  I doubt they have ever gotten to know anyone beyond a the purely superficial. I doubt any of them have ever felt like they could confide in anyone.  My best friends in life (outside of family) are women I grew up with in high school and college, met as young mothers or gotten to know through my kids schools.  I MET them through proximity and circumstance, but became friends through deeper understanding, shared experiences and really getting close to them. The intimacy of a close friendship with another woman would undoubtedly displease the headship. Too much competition for time and attention. Too much opportunity for women to talk to one another about what is REALLY going on in their homes. If ya catch my meaning.

[Aja]

I've been away for months and I come back to...OMG...WAIT FOR IT....long birthday messages written in Evangelicalese. Joshua. I am disappointed.

[ChiCricket]

On 3/7/2019 at 2:41 PM, MamaMax said:

On 12/20/2018 at 2:58 PM, Mindthinkr said:

 

"Lie back and thing of Gothard."

I don't want to think of GotHard's "thing", thank you.

(just teasing,I know it was a typo) 😊

Edited March 9, 2019 by ChiCricket

[Lunera]

Anna is advertising KiwiCo. Their page says they want to inspire the next generation of scientists and artists. 

[ginger90]

[Nysha]

On 3/5/2019 at 4:48 AM, Marshmallow Mollie said:

So...energy giver. I suspect either Mama sees what Mama wants to see, or Josh is going over time faking it.

I'm voting for "Mama sees what Mama wants to see". I don't think she's ever taken off her rose-colored glasses when it comes to Josh.

As for "energy-giver", I've officially been away from Evangelical churches for so long that I don't recognize all of the evangicalese they're spouting these days. 

[libgirl2]

1 minute ago, Nysha said:

I'm voting for "Mama sees what Mama wants to see". I don't think she's ever taken off her rose-colored glasses when it comes to Josh.

As for "energy-giver", I've officially been away from Evangelical churches for so long that I don't recognize all of the evangicalese they're spouting these days. 

She can't take them off. She is married to him and there is no ending that in her world. If she let herself think what a loser she married I think her head would explode. 

My aunt and uncle were married in the the Catholic church back in the early 50s in the Dominican Republic. After three kids and a husband with a massive drinking problem, my aunt (along with one of the daughters) moved to NYC and he stayed behind. I think they lived separately for at least 20 years but they never divorced. You just didn't do that. 

[BitterApple]

4 hours ago, libgirl2 said:

My aunt and uncle were married in the the Catholic church back in the early 50s in the Dominican Republic. After three kids and a husband with a massive drinking problem, my aunt (along with one of the daughters) moved to NYC and he stayed behind. I think they lived separately for at least 20 years but they never divorced. You just didn't do that. 

Lmfaooo, that reminds me of The Crown where everybody cheats and has mistresses or side boyfriends, but God forbid you divorce or your social reputation is ruined.

[lulu69]

14 hours ago, ginger90 said:

Did you notice the FU to trolls in the background?

A sign is propped up smack in the middle of the kitchen counter that reads, "Good moms have sticky floors, messy kitchens, laundry piles & happy kids".  If you edit the sign to say 'happily ignorant kids' the Duggars are crushing it.

[OpieTaylor]

4 hours ago, lulu69 said:

Did you notice the FU to trolls in the background?

A sign is propped up smack in the middle of the kitchen counter that reads, "Good moms have sticky floors, messy kitchens, laundry piles & happy kids".  If you edit the sign to say 'happily ignorant kids' the Duggars are crushing it.

An FU sign for sure!

Meanwhile, the JoshAnna son (Marcus?) has a bicycle inside the house. I have every reason to believe he and the others ride bikes inside.

[JoanArc]

"We don't own a Television Set!" *Leaves 4 foot movie screen pulled down in the Living Room*

[Ohiopirate02]

13 hours ago, mynextmistake said:

Meredith’s dress here is hideous. I bet it’s from some “Christian” MLM company, kind of like LuLaRoe for toddlers.

Unfortunately that dress is in style at the moment with the pattern mixing, colors and ruffles.  I love my niece, but she cannot pull these outfits off either.  I've seen them at our local department store and I think that a lot of moms get them online.

[PikaScrewChu]

It's Friday and this topic was bumped up. I immediately thought Anna had announced a pregnancy.

Man, Casa Smuggar is much better looking than the dull Dillards' home.

[Heathen]

34 minutes ago, PikaScrewChu said:

It's Friday and this topic was bumped up. I immediately thought Anna had announced a pregnancy.

Man, Casa Smuggar is much better looking than the dull Dillards' home.

If she keeps to her schedule, I'm expecting (haha) an announcement within the next few months. 

[queenanne]

7 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

It's Friday and this topic was bumped up. I immediately thought Anna had announced a pregnancy.

Man, Casa Smuggar is much better looking than the dull Dillards' home.

Actually, I thought she looked like she'd slimmed down to a good weight at last without eating her feelings, but maybe that's all camera trickery.  Her midsection looks smaller to me than the last round of "is that or is that not Anna in the group picture"; and her face is thinner.  Love Meredith's winsome look, lol.

[Mojitogirl]

20 hours ago, PikaScrewChu said:

It's Friday and this topic was bumped up. I immediately thought Anna had announced a pregnancy.

Man, Casa Smuggar is much better looking than the dull Dillards' home.

I think that’s the Duggar house. Her last Instagram post is so...odd. She goes to the Duggar house to feed the animals with dog, cat, chicken, bunny, and goat? Emojis - do they really have so many animals?  Then she proceeds to bake her great grandma’s pie in the Duggar’s house. Why couldn’t she do that at home especially if there was no one in the big house?  These people are just bizarre. 

[Lunera]

I think Anna is house sitting while the Duggars are in DC but she seems to be there a lot. I guess she hates being at home alone waiting for Smugs to get home.

[latetotheparty]

2 hours ago, Lunera said:

I think Anna is house sitting while the Duggars are in DC but she seems to be there a lot. I guess she hates being at home alone waiting for Smugs to get home.

If everyone else is gone who’s his accountability partner?

[EmeraldGirl]

Did she hang that camera from the ceiling? I look like I’m 105 pounds from that angle. 

[Barb23]

On 3/14/2019 at 3:01 AM, mynextmistake said:

Meredith’s dress here is hideous. I bet it’s from some “Christian” MLM company, kind of like LuLaRoe for toddlers.

Can you imagine how filthy the bottoms of Meredith's & Spurge's bare feet are? Anna needs to give them a bucket of soapy water to go with those mops.

On 3/14/2019 at 12:18 PM, OpieTaylor said:

An FU sign for sure!

Meanwhile, the JoshAnna son (Marcus?) has a bicycle inside the house. I have every reason to believe he and the others ride bikes inside.

I'm with you. I remember one of the Lost Girls riding a full size kids bike around the dining room table on one of the old 19K&C episodes. Some of the kids were either eating or doing schoolwork while the ride was going on. I remember commenting that the bike rider must have been at recess. 

Remember those go carts they built?  I thought sure we would see them being ridden inside in a future episode. 

[mimionthebeach]

On 3/13/2019 at 4:37 PM, Lunera said:

Anna is advertising KiwiCo. Their page says they want to inspire the next generation of scientists and artists. 

I feel like these photos should be prefaced with an announcement that the "role of Anna is now being played by [someone who looks almost like her and is also called Anna]."

Like a York/Sargent thing. 

[Lunera]

[MunichNark]

Eh, does she realise that it is SAINT Patrick's day today? Saint? Evil Catholics and all that? It's actually a holy day of obligation and you should go to Mass before you head off to celebrate.

[jcbrown]

20 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Shut it, Anna. Not everything always has to be all Jesus all the damn time. Sanctimonious twit, with her "lucky blessed."

Edited March 17, 2019 by jcbrown
It's my post-y and I'll edit if I want to :-)

[Temperance]

29 minutes ago, MunichNark said:

Eh, does she realise that it is SAINT Patrick's day today? Saint? Evil Catholics and all that? It's actually a holy day of obligation and you should go to Mass before you head off to celebrate.

I'm a Catholic (of Irish descent) and St. Patrick's day isn't a holy day of obligation. Every day of the calendar has the feast of some saint or other and they not all holy days of obligation.  Holy Days of Obligation are fewer and have to do with Jesus or his mother Mary. No saints besides Mary have days of obligation. 

Yes it's true the Bates used to not celebrate Valentine's Day, because of the Catholic associations. Plenty of non-irish pagans use today as an excuse to get drunk, so it bothers me less that Duggars are observing it. 

[Mindthinkr]

I don’t know why they are celebrating this holiday. St Patrick got rid of all the snakes in Ireland. If he came to their house he’d get rid of that snake of a husband she has. 

[galaxychaser]

The Kids look happy, clean and fed unlike the Rodriguez clan... 

[MunichNark]

41 minutes ago, Temperance said:

I'm a Catholic (of Irish descent) and St. Patrick's day isn't a holy day of obligation. Every day of the calendar has the feast of some saint or other and they not all holy days of obligation.  Holy Days of Obligation are fewer and have to do with Jesus or his mother Mary. No saints besides Mary have days of obligation. 

Yes it's true the Bates used to not celebrate Valentine's Day, because of the Catholic associations. Plenty of non-irish pagans use today as an excuse to get drunk, so it bothers me less that Duggars are observing it. 

Youre wrong, im afraid. It very much is a holy day of obligation. I lived in ireland and im Catholic;-)

[Temperance]

50 minutes ago, MunichNark said:

Youre wrong, im afraid. It very much is a holy day of obligation. I lived in ireland and im Catholic;-)

Maybe in Ireland. Not internationally. You're wrong. 

Adding I checked and researched. It is a holy day of obligation in Ireland, but not the United States and elsewhere in the world. 

Edited March 17, 2019 by Temperance

[JoanArc]

 I’m sorry, but I’m totally disgusted by Josh’s face. It’s instantly offputting.

[BitterApple]

28 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

 I’m sorry, but I’m totally disgusted by Josh’s face. It’s instantly offputting.

Ikr? You just want to take a good slug at him. 

[JoanArc]

10 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Ikr? You just want to take a good slug at him. 

I couldn’t get past it to see what Anna was posting about.  I seriously never want to see Josh, Jim Bob, or Michelle ever ever ever again. 

[dargosmydaddy]

Those matching dresses (second picture) are... interesting. I'm assuming there must be a panel under the bodice, but at a quick glance they don't really look up to Duggar modesty standards.

Edited March 18, 2019 by dargosmydaddy
removed problematic phrasing...

[wilsie]

4 hours ago, JoanArc said:

 I seriously never want to see Josh, Jim Bob, or Michelle ever ever ever again. 

If wishing would make it so😢

[ChiCricket]

1 hour ago, dargosmydaddy said:

Those matching dresses (second picture) are... interesting. I'm assuming there must be a flesh-colored panel under the bodice, but at a quick glance they don't really look up to Duggar modesty standards.

It wouldn't be "flesh" colored for my husband or kids. (Me? Yes.) 😁

[dargosmydaddy]

8 hours ago, ChiCricket said:

It wouldn't be "flesh" colored for my husband or kids. (Me? Yes.)

Sorry, I meant that to come across as "flesh color of the wearers" (i.e. Duggar flesh color), not a generic statement.

(In my original post I wrote "nude" at first... not sure if that would have been any less problematic phrasing, but I changed it after realizing no one wants to picture a Duggar nude...)

Edited March 18, 2019 by dargosmydaddy

[floridamom]

I doubt Anna purchased those mother/daughter dresses at a thrift shop. Anyone know where she got them?

[B in Lee]

20 hours ago, JoanArc said:

I couldn’t get past it to see what Anna was posting about.  I seriously never want to see Josh, Jim Bob, or Michelle ever ever ever again. 

Well, I guess you and I will not be sharing the same TV viewing couch. I love the Duggars - ALL of the Duggars - including the "imperfect" and non-PC ones. And I would love to see the whole extended family in these episodes.