Temperance

I can't find any official courtship announcement for Katie Bates on any of the Bates social media or the fundie snarksites. There is speculation that Katie is courting, because of the photos with the guy. I'm now thinking this might be a more drawn out courtship like CarVan's (Carlin + Evan).

So good to hear from you, my friend! I, too, seem to be down these days. Hope we both feel better! And that everyone else on this forum finds comfort, who needs it.

I wonder if Man Camp is part of Dwain Swanson's (Si's father in-law) and Will Peters's (Michelle's nephew) ministry. It's the first I heard of "Man Camp". Their ministry is called "Courageous Men of the Word". Will Peters mentions it in his biography: "Recently I was encouraged by Dwain and some of my brothers in our group after a man camp to step out in faith and move 450 miles away from home to do the job of my dreams. So I prayed about it and felt the Lords hand of direction on our family. I now work on airplanes installing avionics removing old instruments and updating the airplane with the latest equipment. Previously during the day I worked at a drainage pipe manufacturing company, working in the machine shop. I programmed and ran a CNC milling machine making specialty parts for the equipment used in the manufacturing of corrugated plastic pipe. I grew up on a small farm in south western Ohio about 40 miles outside Cincinnati. We raised animals and crops. My parents were new Christians coming to know the Lord while in high school. When I was young my mother was my Sunday school teacher and one Sunday in the summer at the age of 6 years old, because of a message she taught from the Bible, I realized that I was a sinner headed for Hell, I repented of my sin and was saved. Later on in my high school years after a missionary came and spoke at our church and I felt like the Lord was leading to study and go to the mission field. So I went to a Christian college and studied Missionary Aviation. I received my mechanics and pilots licenses. After school things didn’t happen the way you would expect and because of some life changing events I didn’t go to the mission field. It took me awhile to realize that God plans are better than any of my plans. He allowed the circumstances in my life to mould me and shape me into an instrument to be used for his service. I’m thankful to the Lord for a loving wife (Angela) and four children he has blessed me with. Luke, Jacob, Evan, and Emily. One of my favorite verses tells of God’s power. Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the Lord, the God of all flesh: is there any thing too hard for me? You might say the answer to this verse is found in Matthew 19:26 (another favorite verse), but Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible. I love the hope these verses give us in the seemingly impossible situations of our life."

Cade looks like Jinger's twin.

The Maxwells did that for a photo of them with some friends. One of the friends was in jeans and they made it look like a skirt. Here's the photo (girl farthest to right). It doesn't surprise me that the Maxwells did this, especially since these are their friends. (Maxwell friends must be Godly). But it surprises me the more wordly Duggars did this, especially to young ladies they don't know.

Yep, that's Cade and his fiance Gabby "little mama" Barrett.

I also think Jill wears big clothes to keep people from speculating whether or not she's pregnant.

I appreciate y'all and the forum. I miss some people we haven't heard from in a while including @Aja, @ChiCricket, and @MyPeopleAreNordic. I also miss Arwen Evenstar, but don't think she is around.

She turned 18 last October and will be 19 this October. It should be noted that as of yet all of the Duggar/Bates brides and grooms were at least 19 at the wedding including Josie Bates, Alyssa Bates, and Kendra Caldwell, Lauren Swanson, Ben Seewald and Joy Duggar. Everyone else was older. The Bates marry their girls young to take their options and make sure they do nothing but have kids for Jesus.

Lauren has her own sisters to help.

Kendra is 21 today!

It seems to cost money to listen to, but thanks for posting. Jed is technically a lonely J and the oldest single Duggar after Jana!

I have no idea what happened to their cat, but if he is in LA with them, there would be pictures immediately.

I don't remember perpendicular. I get the feeling this is aimed as a middle of the road political statement. Don't shoot people; be nice to them instead! But don't criticize our leaders for doing nothing either! I don't feel the least bit inspired by this statement, at least in any positive sense.

Lauren isn't officially celiac. Neither one of them is officially celiac, but both Abbie and Lauren have talked about gluten sensitivity.