JD and Abbie: Captured Before the Rapture

[galaxychaser]

I totally see Abby having twins. 

[Snow Fairy]

I saw a comment saying I thing JB mentioned January baby somewhere around Gradma's funeral. And someone said he mentioned twins...

But maybe just speculation

[Lunera]

https://www.tlcme.com/shows/counting-on/articles/a-baby-for-john-david-and-abbie-duggar

Here's the video 

Abbie found out she was pregnant at urgent care. Of, course she was very shocked that she was pregnant 🙄. At least it's not a honeymoon baby but they'll still have the baby before their 1st anniversary. 

[Absolom]

4 minutes ago, Lunera said:

At least it's not a honeymoon baby but they'll still have the baby before their 1st anniversary. 

I don't think it will be before their first anniversary.  I read she's due in January.

[louannems]

The only way Abby could have been as shocked as she claimed to be in urgent care, she must have been preventing.  Otherwise, it's to be expected.  I really want to know if she was preventing since that's not the Gothard way.

[BitterApple]

That's interesting she went to urgent care and not her primary physician or gynecologist. If you're having unprotected sex and experience nausea and vomiting, wouldn't pregnancy be the first thing that came to mind? 

[Chicklet]

2 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

That's interesting she went to urgent care and not her primary physician or gynecologist. If you're having unprotected sex and experience nausea and vomiting, wouldn't pregnancy be the first thing that came to mind? 

Well it's not like she's a .....nurse...

[Absolom]

I'll cut her a break with her first symptom could have been dizziness or feeling light headed.  

[awaken]

Yeah that’s puzzling. Why would a young fertile person having unprotected sex, with a minimal level of medical knowledge nonetheless, be shocked to be pregnant, after several months of marriage?

[Temperance]

I'm annoyed that another couple announced with no hint of when she's due. So far it's a rumor from FJ that she is due in January. None of my friends announce like this. I get not saying a specfic date, but why not just say a month or around this time or even a season?

I also don't understand her surprise. Maybe she felt discouraged when they didn't conceive in the first three/four months. 

Given how skinny she was in the pictures, I doubt it's twins. Of course the speculated due date could be off....

Edited August 3, 2019 by Temperance

[mythoughtis]

3 hours ago, BitterApple said:

That's interesting she went to urgent care and not her primary physician or gynecologist. If you're having unprotected sex and experience nausea and vomiting, wouldn't pregnancy be the first thing that came to mind? 

Maybe she hasn’t decided on either type of doctor in Arkansas yet?   

[Rabbittron]

24 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Maybe she hasn’t decided on either type of doctor in Arkansas yet?   

Most likely urgent care was the cheapest option  because Clown Car's pee stick closet is permanently closed. 

[3 is enough]

Some women experience spotting during early pregnancy which can be mistaken for a period, especially if they typically have light and/ or irregular periods.  Maybe this was the case with Abbie.

In the photos she doesn't look like she is showing yet, so January seems to be more likely than a November due date. Also probably rules out twins.

[FizzyPuff]

15 hours ago, Temperance said:

I'm annoyed that another couple announced with no hint of when she's due. So far it's a rumor from FJ that she is due in January. None of my friends announce like this. I get not saying a specfic date, but why not just say a month or around this time or even a season?

I also don't understand her surprise. Maybe she felt discouraged when they didn't conceive in the first three/four months. 

Given how skinny she was in the pictures, I doubt it's twins. Of course the speculated due date could be off....

They usually announce pregnancies about 3 months along so I’m presuming she’s about there maybe a few weeks more, except Jill I think with Israel as soon as she peed on the stick she was telling her whole family.

Maybe they were using precautions or maybe she thought because she’s older it would take a while. 

Edited August 3, 2019 by Puffin

[Temperance]

1 minute ago, Puffin said:

They usually announce pregnancies about 3 months along so I’m presuming she’s about there maybe a few weeks more, except Jill I think with Israel as soon as she peed on the stick she was telling her whole family.

Maybe they were using precautions or maybe she thought because she’s older it would take a while. 

Jill announced publicly at 2 months with their People cover for Israel. Kendra also announced around 2 months this time. 

FJ speculates Abbie may have waited, because of Joy's loss.

[FizzyPuff]

4 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Jill announced publicly at 2 months with their People cover for Israel. Kendra also announced around 2 months this time. 

FJ speculates Abbie may have waited, because of Joy's loss.

Interesting I didn’t know that, although when Jill announced to her family she said something like yesterday I peed on a stick and today we found out we’re pregnant, of course TLC could’ve been messing with the timeline but some how I doubt it Jill doesn’t seem the type of person who can keep a secret tbh. 

I think Jessa waited three months, Joy, Jinger(maybe),Anna did for a few (I think), I think most of them know 3 months is considered safe but yes after Joys, Abbie could’ve been further along although she didn’t look pregnant in the announcement. 

[Temperance]

Jill told her family at one month, but announced to the world at 2 months.  I think all of them (as do most people) announce to their families before telling everyone else. (My cousin told her family long before announcing on facebook.) 

Edited August 3, 2019 by Temperance

[Lunera]

Got this picture from a fan page, so I have no idea which of Abbie's friend posted it. She looks very skinny, maybe she had a rough first few months. 

[Portia]

8 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Got this picture from a fan page, so I have no idea which of Abbie's friend posted it. She looks very skinny, maybe she had a rough first few months. 

Looks like the Titty Fairy has paid a visit! (I remember Robin Williams using that phrase long ago when talking about his wife's pregnancy.)

[Lunera]

Here's the whole picture 

[FizzyPuff]

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

Got this picture from a fan page, so I have no idea which of Abbie's friend posted it. She looks very skinny, maybe she had a rough first few months. 

Oh no skirt guess JD couldn’t give a damn about the no skirt rule. She looks good too.

Edited August 3, 2019 by Puffin

[Scarlett45]

1 hour ago, Portia said:

Looks like the Titty Fairy has paid a visit! (I remember Robin Williams using that phrase long ago when talking about his wife's pregnancy.)

Ha😝. Yes her bust line looks much bigger. She looks happy.

I can see Abby waiting to publicly announce a bit longer given Grandma Mary’s death and Joy’s miscarriage. 

So it seems JB can count when he stated how many grandchildren they had between living and in utero. Most of us assumed Abby was pregnant and just wasn’t publicly announcing yet. 

[BitterApple]

Wow, Abby's lost a lot of weight.

[Oldernowiser]

3 minutes ago, BitterApple said:

Wow, Abby's lost a lot of weight.

Well, she’s still “the cuttest,” though...

Eyeroll.

[madpsych78]

I just realized that all of the "active" Duggar pregnancies right now belong to all of the four DILs.

[mythoughtis]

1 hour ago, Puffin said:

Oh no skirt guess JD couldn’t give a damn about the no skirt rule. She looks good too.

I truly think JD has some common sense  and realizes that Abby has some too. I also think they would get the $& / ? out if they could.  Maybe if  JD gets enough flight hours logged that he could fly a commercial cargo plane. Didn’t someone here say they chose a different church to attend than the rest of the Duggars? 

[Sew Sumi]

Yeah, I recall them attending a church that was sort of off the beaten path (not in Springdale or Fayetteville). But then again, we don't know if they're living in JD's Rogers house or elsewhere.

[PradaKitty]

These people breed like rabbits. No wonder Jimblob and Meeechelle can’t remember their grandkids birthdays 

[Spencer Hastings]

They’re both in their late 20s, married, and are able to support themselves in their respective careers when this gravy train derails.  Aside from the crazy courtship to engagement to wedding timeline, they could be any other young couple announcing a baby. I hope they enjoy their first child and plan their family according to what THEY want.  Holding out hope that JD understands that even though he comes from a breeding circus, he doesn’t have to live according to anyone’s terms and conditions.  

[JoanArc]

38 minutes ago, Spencer Hastings said:

They’re both in their late 20s, married, and are able to support themselves in their respective careers when this gravy train derails.

That's true of Abbie. JD is still firmly on JB's tit.

[dargosmydaddy]

18 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

That's true of Abbie. JD is still firmly on JB's tit.

But compared to other Duggar sons (cough, Josh, cough), JD has some potentially marketable skills and a semblance of a work ethic.

[doodlebug]

9 hours ago, dargosmydaddy said:

But compared to other Duggar sons (cough, Josh, cough), JD has some potentially marketable skills and a semblance of a work ethic.

Yes, JD has a commercial pilot's license, so, he could go out and find a job with any number of businesses needing pilots whether Fed Ex or a private charter service or even a small airline.  I don't think he has the qualifications to fly big passenger jets for a major airline, but he has a marketable skill and could escape the family if he chooses.

[BitterApple]

54 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Yes, JD has a commercial pilot's license, so, he could go out and find a job with any number of businesses needing pilots whether Fed Ex or a private charter service or even a small airline.  I don't think he has the qualifications to fly big passenger jets for a major airline, but he has a marketable skill and could escape the family if he chooses.

I'm actually surprised he doesn't go that route, considering there's a pilot shortage. He could make great money flying for one of the cargo companies, not to mention the benefits. What sort of hold does Boob have over these kids?

[Marigold]

54 minutes ago, mynextmistake said:

I had hyperemesis and lost weight until month eight, when I quickly gained about 20 pounds. I weighed less the day I gave birth than I did the day I found out I was pregnant. That could explain Abbie’s weight loss and absence from other family events. 

ME TOO!  I was so damn sick with my first child.  I was skinnier after giving birth than before the pregnancy. 

Maybe Abbie had a really rough first 12 weeks.  She looks happy though. 

[xwordfanatik]

She's got a great figure, and looks happy.  Touching the bump but not as pornographically as Lauren.  😛

[Whyyouneedaname]

12 hours ago, Marigold said:

ME TOO!  I was so damn sick with my first child.  I was skinnier after giving birth than before the pregnancy. 

Maybe Abbie had a really rough first 12 weeks.  She looks happy though. 

I thought I was gonna die 🤢🤮

[sigmaforce86]

I was going to say that Abbie could have been surprised to be pregnant because Celiac can mess with your cycles.  But then I remembered; Abbie isn't Celiac is she? I imagine being a nurse she would have looked into an official diagnosis if she thought she had a problem but isn't Lauren the "official" celiac sufferer and Abbie is gluten free because she just felt better when she eliminated it?   If so I guess that theory is out, not that Abbie couldn't be irregular for many other reasons; it's not an uncommon problem.

I love that Instgram photo though - it is a totally normal everyday photo of a woman wearing a normal summer outfit.  In Duggar land those shoulders and that neckline are defrauding and JB would drop in a faint if he saw any of his unmarried girls and even a few of the married (ie the ones he still controls) in that outfit.  That JD doesn't seem to care and that Abbie is comfortable wearing it says a lot and is great progress.

[Temperance]

5 hours ago, sigmaforce86 said:

I was going to say that Abbie could have been surprised to be pregnant because Celiac can mess with your cycles.  But then I remembered; Abbie isn't Celiac is she? I imagine being a nurse she would have looked into an official diagnosis if she thought she had a problem but isn't Lauren the "official" celiac sufferer and Abbie is gluten free because she just felt better when she eliminated it?   If so I guess that theory is out, not that Abbie couldn't be irregular for many other reasons; it's not an uncommon problem.

I love that Instgram photo though - it is a totally normal everyday photo of a woman wearing a normal summer outfit.  In Duggar land those shoulders and that neckline are defrauding and JB would drop in a faint if he saw any of his unmarried girls and even a few of the married (ie the ones he still controls) in that outfit.  That JD doesn't seem to care and that Abbie is comfortable wearing it says a lot and is great progress.

Lauren isn't officially celiac. Neither one of them is officially celiac, but both Abbie and Lauren have talked about gluten sensitivity.

[GeeGolly]

50 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Lauren isn't officially celiac. Neither one of them is officially celiac, but both Abbie and Lauren have talked about gluten sensitivity.

What isn't Lauren sensitive too?

Never mind, I know - others.

[WalrusGirl]

On 8/1/2019 at 4:06 PM, truebluesmoky said:

I wonder if she’s been suffering from hyperemesis and that’s why she looks like she actually lost weight and has missed family events.

On 8/3/2019 at 4:36 PM, BitterApple said:

Wow, Abby's lost a lot of weight.

Yeah, how thin she looked in the prior photo (shortly before they announced, and the first pic in awhile) actually had me convinced she *was* pregnant. Hyperemesis is a bitch. Hopefully she’s starting to feel better!

Also, and forgive me if I missed this (as I usually catch the family’s posts from browsing these boards, and never read JD&A’s thread here consistently through), but did we know that Abbie has/still has her own, private (!) IG?! Good for her! Only 30 posts, so it’s not like she/they are posting up a storm behind the private account; it pleases me on both counts. It’s so normal! (Her friend tagged both her private handle and their shared/public one.)

[Churchhoney]

On 8/4/2019 at 10:30 AM, BitterApple said:

I'm actually surprised he doesn't go that route, considering there's a pilot shortage. He could make great money flying for one of the cargo companies, not to mention the benefits. What sort of hold does Boob have over these kids?

JB and M got them at birth and for most of their lives determinedly warped them into a particular shape and kept them from any outside contact except with fools who embrace the same idiot ideology and, in many cases, have the same personality issues JB and M have.

Their brains are literally wired to act toward them just like their parents acted all their lives. 

Unless something radical happens, most Duggarlings are self-perpetuating Boob-robots.

[lookeyloo]

7 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

JB and M got them at birth and for most of their lives determinedly warped them into a particular shape and kept them from any outside contact except with fools who embrace the same idiot ideology and, in many cases, have the same personality issues JB and M have.

Their brains are literally wired to act toward them just like their parents acted all their lives. 

Unless something radical happens, most Duggarlings are self-perpetuating Boob-robots.

And that's why the notion of any of them having the strength  to break free and of us rescuing Jana, etc. are just things we would like to happen, and in reality slim to none chance of happening.

[EmeraldGirl]

I think what got them all is the tv money. I’m sure it was drilled into their heads that god answered their prayers and gave them fame and money for sticking with their religion. The older ones must remember the abject poverty before TLC. Hell, that might even make me a believer. 

[Scarlett45]

7 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

I think what got them all is the tv money. I’m sure it was drilled into their heads that god answered their prayers and gave them fame and money for sticking with their religion. The older ones must remember the abject poverty before TLC. Hell, that might even make me a believer. 

Without tv show fame and money a few of them certainly would’ve deflected by now- my predictions would be Jessa (not condemning her parents but moving out and doing her own thing), who would’ve dragged Jinger with her as Jinger always wanted the superficial trappings of a difference kind of life.  As well as Josiah/Joy-Anna would’ve jumped ship together as soon as Joy-Anna was 18. 

As JB and Michelle age they will lossen the reigns (cause they are older and tired and Jana does so much), the kids from Jackson on down are likely to live less Duggar-esque lives.

I think Jana would still be there to care for the younger ones, and JD would support her in whatever decision she wanted to make. 

[queenanne]

That onesie is cute AF.  Happy for them and glad to see that Abbie is dressed more normally/mainstream.  I imagine that as a nurse she gravitates towards clothing she can actually move in.

I likewise like her girl-next-door look.  She seems to be that type of practical girl who is the "go-to" advice-giver in her friend group.  Allover I think this pair is much better off for waiting until they were actual adults to get married.  It's like Abbie could, gosh, actually support herself if she were widowed, etc.

[madpsych78]

2 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

Without tv show fame and money a few of them certainly would’ve deflected by now- my predictions would be Jessa (not condemning her parents but moving out and doing her own thing), who would’ve dragged Jinger with her as Jinger always wanted the superficial trappings of a difference kind of life.  As well as Josiah/Joy-Anna would’ve jumped ship together as soon as Joy-Anna was 18. 

As JB and Michelle age they will lossen the reigns (cause they are older and tired and Jana does so much), the kids from Jackson on down are likely to live less Duggar-esque lives.

I think Jana would still be there to care for the younger ones, and JD would support her in whatever decision she wanted to make. 

OK, let's play. If the Duggars didn't have the TV show fame and money, which kids would still totally stay in the fold?

I believe Joe would be one.

Jill's kind of interesting because I think she's one of the few where she became more mainstream due to Derick and the TV show. I think she would have also stayed in the fold if not for Derick. 

[yogi2014L]

On 8/10/2019 at 10:34 AM, madpsych78 said:

OK, let's play. If the Duggars didn't have the TV show fame and money, which kids would still totally stay in the fold?

I believe Joe would be one.

Jill's kind of interesting because I think she's one of the few where she became more mainstream due to Derick and the TV show. I think she would have also stayed in the fold if not for Derick. 

I don't think Jill and Derick would have made it to the altar if there wasn't a tv show. They probably would have spent more time together than they did, and Derick would have realized Jill wasn't who she claimed to be ( midwife in training, somewhat educated, ready to get married ect). I think he would have bailed.

But I agree Jill would have absolutely stayed, Jessa and Jinger would have gotten married first second they could to basically anyone to escape the TTH, and maybe left years down the road. I don't think they would have gone on their own. I do think their suitors would have been less "desirable" ( in quotes because I don't think Jeremy and Bin are desirable husbands) and they are actually better off due to the show helping them get married Vs marrying a David Waller or Rodriguez person with no outside world experience 

Josh absolutely would have been the first to head for the hills, followed by Josiah. Josh was the only one so far capable of doing things on his own ( granted his thing was cheating, but it does take a lot of motivation to go against the grain and hire a prostitute when you've been raised fundy). 

[lookeyloo]

I don't know who would have bolted.  If they risked shunning by the parents and the parents made the siblings shun them, would they be strong enough to start over in a strange land with all those people they were taught to distrust?  Hard to tell.

[Nysha]

I don't think JimBob & Michelle would have shunned (or would now shun) any child who went off the rails. They've allowed their children to be around Amy all her life and presumably around JimBob's sister who was living in sin with Amy's father for a long time. I think most of them, especially from Joseph down, would have an extremely hard time surviving because of their piss-poor education and lack of awareness of how the real world works. 

However, without the show, I think Josh would have been allowed to go to either Clown College or maybe even Liberty, gotten caught naked in someone's bed and expelled, then bolted instead of going to Jesus Jail. Josiah would have bailed at 18 and found some family who appreciated him to live with and help him get things figured out. JD, Jana, Jessa, and Jinger would have all married and eventually slowly migrated to a more mainstream Christian church and given up Gothardism. Jill would have married a man just like dad and been as unhappy with him as she is with Derick. And Joy probably would have married Austin.

I think after Josh and Josiah, Michelle and Jim-Bob would have gotten stricter, more confining, and more controlling of the younger kids to keep them in line. The show has given them enough money to go on childless vacations and having so many older kids at home lets them leave without any guilt or responsibility. Without the show, I think they would have ended up doing a lot more parenting once the older girls began marrying.

[dargosmydaddy]

https://www.tlcme.com/john-david-and-abbies-reveal-5626531

Another Duggar granddaughter...