Roseanne: Aftermath

[tessaray]

Discuss the cancellation of Roseanne here. 

• As usual, no politics and no incivility. 
• Report offenders, do not engage.

[TomGirl]

Whoa!  That was quick!

[LucyEth]

Well it's over, no more wondering about Jerry Andy or how Mark died.  Too bad the other actors all have to suffer from the remarks.

[CherryAmes]

I've someone on my FB already demanding to know if Roseanne got cancelled why aren't "they" cancelling The Colbert Show and SNL because, you know - it's the same thing.  Sigh.  Not even going to try and explain why no it's not the same thing.

[Rap541]

But I was just starting to care again :(

And dammit, how did Mark die, what happened between Andy and Jackie, and why does no one give two shits about Jerry, their child and or baby brother who they theoretically love?

Edited May 29, 2018 by Rap541

[AgentRXS]

I do wish they would continue the reboot without her as a big Fuck You. I'd watch the hell out of that. Let Roseanne Conner die of an overdose or not wake up out of surgery. Everyone has such good chemistry that I think it could be pulled off. That  episode that didnt feature her in the original run (the one where Jackie was taking care of the kids) was just fine. Let her watch everyone move on without her. She couldn't handle it.

Edited May 29, 2018 by AgentRXS

[Rap541]

Honestly I'd love that. Let Goodman and Metcalf carry it, let "Darlene" assume the mother role.... it could work.

[CherryAmes]

I'm in!  I'd love them to pull a "Lorre" on Roseanne and kill her off the way he killed off Charlie Sheen's character (just keep her dead!) - someone way more clever than I could come up with a suitable way to have her go off into oblivion.

[Delphi]

This is staggering news.   Firstly that ABC cancelled it and so quickly considering how successful its been.   Roseanne was completely out of line and I can't justify her insanity but I will say that I've immensely enjoyed the one season we got and sad that we won't see these stories explored further.   I wanted to spend a bit more time with the Connors if not Barr.

Edited May 30, 2018 by Delphi

[saylubee]

I’m cynical enough to wonder if this wasn’t part of Roseanne’s (as in Roseanne Barr the person) plan all along.  I never got the feeling she was as into the reboot as some of the other characters.  She doesn’t own it, Sara Gilbert was the executive producer, ABC had their hands in the cookie jar and season two was supposed to be less political and more normal sitcom... the whole thing makes me think that Roseanne always had Twitter as her “out”.

[rcc]

Re - continuing the show without Roseanne.

I doubt Sara wants to continue. No word from John yet. I can't see him continuing either. Roseanne ruined everything and she needs to go away back to her nut farm.

Edited May 29, 2018 by rcc

[Mmmfloorpie]

I guess we should be thankful there was a revival.

[Mmmfloorpie]

1 minute ago, rcc said:

I doubt Sara wants to continue. No word from John yet. I can't see him continuing either. Roseanne ruined everything and she needs to go away back to her nut farm.

I've considered this too but she genuinely seems happy to be back on the show in the new episodes.

[libgirl2]

12 minutes ago, CherryAmes said:

I've someone on my FB already demanding to know if Roseanne got cancelled why aren't "they" cancelling The Colbert Show and SNL because, you know - it's the same thing.  Sigh.  Not even going to try and explain why no it's not the same thing.

No they don't get it. 

[silverspoons]

I did not watch the original show except for an some reruns over the years. I usually don't care for shows that make anything political, there is enough of it in the news. I want a sitcom to make me forget the real world. I was surprised that I liked the reboot. I liked the issues they tackled but in a light enough way that I didn't feel like yelling at the TV. I would have liked to see the many more issues that they could have show. 

It is a sad year for comedies. Bye to the Middle, LA to Vegas, Superior Donuts and now this show Not all of us want dramas. 

[Keywestclubkid]

I’d  watch 

Edited May 29, 2018 by Keywestclubkid

[Lili]

16 minutes ago, Rap541 said:

Honestly I'd love that. Let Goodman and Metcalf carry it, let "Darlene" assume the mother role.... it could work.

Then they would need to change the name of the show. If Roseanne herself is no longer part of it, it wouldn't really make sense to still call it Roseanne.

Anyway, I just heard about this news now. Such a shame.

[Mmmfloorpie]

10 minutes ago, Keywestclubkid said:

I’d  watch 

Original Jackie maybe.

[debbie311]

ABC canceling Roseanne has reaffirmed my faith that people can still do the honorable thing.  Lately I have been beginning to wonder.

[Mom x 3]

Gah!  I was so looking forward to the next season.  I understand why ABC did it, and I'm pissed at Roseanne Barr.  She's nuts, and she can say whatever she wants, but she is definitely going to feel the consequences of saying whatever she wants.  I have an uncle who is pretty racist, but he does know when to keep his mouth shut.  

*sigh*  I'm going to miss this family.  

[jewel21]

Between Roseanne and Clayne Crawford from "Lethal Weapon" being dicks in real life, I'm not a happy camper. I really loved the reboot and this blows, and although Crawford was canned and "Lethal Weapon" not cancelled, it might as well have been since I don't see it surviving without him for very long. Here are two people with popular shows and neither could behave like a decent human being and other people had to suffer because of their actions, including myself. 

No Lucifer, The Exorcist, Roseanne, Superior Donuts, the fall season is going to suck, TV wise. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by jewel21

[Caseysgirl]

Love to know what Sandra Bernhardt who was literally frothing at the mouth for a chance to play her character Nancy again and was kissing Roseanne's butt all  over her radio show is saying about this turn of events.

[JennyMominFL]

25 minutes ago, debbie311 said:

Why would Colbert get canned?  He doesn't make racist remarks during his show. And I don't think he is even on social media, he is pretty quiet in his private life (smart). 

I wonder if TVLand will stop showing the old Roseanne reruns, the way the Cosby reruns are not aired anymore.

And while it is unfortunate that the rest of the cast and crew lost their jobs, nothing is secure in the world of entertainment.  TV shows come and go.  I am sure they realize that and will be fine.

Im guessing that he thinks Colbert should get  canned because his show gets political. Roseanne didn't get canned for being political. She got fired for being a racist. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by JennyMominFL

[CherryAmes]

Just now, JennyMominFL said:

Roseanne didn't get canned for being political She got fired for being a racist. 

This,  So much this.  If she'd kept it political and at least somewhat civil there wouldn't be an issue - oh sure those who dislike her politics may not have tuned into her show but they wouldn't have had much luck trying to get her show off the air - especially given its ratings - but when she keeps veering into racism and conspiracy theories it's not too hard to understand why the powers that be finally got fed up.   

[DrSpaceman]

29 minutes ago, saylubee said:

I’m cynical enough to wonder if this wasn’t part of Roseanne’s (as in Roseanne Barr the person) plan all along.  I never got the feeling she was as into the reboot as some of the other characters.  She doesn’t own it, Sara Gilbert was the executive producer, ABC had their hands in the cookie jar and season two was supposed to be less political and more normal sitcom... the whole thing makes me think that Roseanne always had Twitter as her “out”.

Its all a very weird story.  I too am suspicious of some of this being planned or we as fans are being duped somehow by all this.

I never watched the new show though.  So I don't care if it was cancelled. 

[Sakura12]

Why would Colbert and SNL get cancelled, they aren't saying anything racist. If Rosanne had kept her tweet political there wouldn't be that big of an issue, she went for racist instead and THAT is the issue. And the fact that there was no reason for her to say it. She said it to get a reaction and she got one at the cost of a lot of people's jobs. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by Sakura12

[GoldenGirl90]

41 minutes ago, CherryAmes said:

I've someone on my FB already demanding to know if Roseanne got cancelled why aren't "they" cancelling The Colbert Show and SNL because, you know - it's the same thing.  Sigh.  Not even going to try and explain why no it's not the same thing.

Oh I’ve seen the same thing. People want The View, Kimmel, Colbert, ect. to all be cancelled now.

[TV Diva Queen]

43 minutes ago, AgentRXS said:

I do wish they would continue the reboot without her as a big Fuck You. I'd watch the hell out of that. Let Roseanne Conner die of an overdose or not wake up out of surgery. Everyone has such good chemistry that I think it could be pulled off. That  episode that didnt feature her in the original run (the one where Jackie was taking care of the kids) was just fine. Let her watch everyone move on without her. She couldn't handle it.

 

I"d watch the shit out of show without her.  All my TV's and devices would be tuned it (not sure TPTB would know that, but I would).  Jackie and Dan were sweet on each other.....let's kill off Rosie and see where it goes....

Edited May 29, 2018 by TV Diva Queen

[Picture It. Sicily]

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I"d watch the shit out of show without her.  All my TV's and devices would be tuned it (not sure TPTB would know that, but I would).  Jackie and Dan were sweet on each other.....let's kill off Rosie and see where it goes....

Like that great episode in the early seasons where Jackie helped with the kids when Roseanne went to see Al and Bev. They had that great, low-key moment where Dan made it clear that she wasn't just "the little sister".

Edited May 29, 2018 by Picture It. Sicily

[Milburn Stone]

41 minutes ago, Rap541 said:

Honestly I'd love that. Let Goodman and Metcalf carry it, let "Darlene" assume the mother role.... it could work.

I'd enjoy such a show, but I wouldn't watch it, and I hope it doesn't happen. Why? Because all the cast members were complicit from the beginning. Roseanne's repulsive and hateful viewpoints didn't start over the weekend. 

[2727]

I wonder if Whitney Cumming is going to feel free to speak out about her departure now?

3 hours ago, junemeatcleaver said:

 If she just *had* to talk nonsense on the web, there are certain anonymous message boards she could have shared her filth with.

Roseanne's entire self worth is derived from the attention she gets from strangers. Negative publicity or spinning out conspiracy theories to like-minded folks -- it's all the same grist for her neurotic mill and has been for decades. An anonymous existence would be worse than death to her.

Edited May 29, 2018 by 2727

[ginger90]

Roseanne could go on a long Uber ride........

Why not just fire Roseanne and not cancel the show? Is there a reason I am not thinking of?

[CherryAmes]

1 minute ago, Milburn Stone said:

Roseanne's repulsive and hateful viewpoints didn't start over the weekend. 

I made the decision not to watch the reboot when she directed her nastiness towards a teenage survivor of Parkland.  Her most recent tweets were just confirmation to me that she is a truly terrible person.  If the rest of the cast and those behind the scenes were prepared to look the other way in order to get a pay cheque I certainly won't condemn them for that, but I also won't accept that they were unaware of her racist, hateful persona.

[callie lee 29]

I'm assuming one of the reasons it's not going on (and no spinoff) is Barr would get a cut as she probably characters (at least partial) to both the show and chatacters.

I'm actually really proud ABC for this. Good for them. 

[CelticBlackCat]

'OMG.  Unbelievable.  Wow.  It's too bad Roseanne self-destructed like this leaving the rest of her cast mates, crew, etc. in the lurch.  I think what Roseanne tweeted was abhorrent and shows she is crazier than I ever thought she was.'

After that racist and ugly tweet, I think ABC made the right decision to just scrap the whole show.  Roseanne Barr can't get involved saying part of it is hers because she created the character, etc., and everyone is off the hook as to trying to explain why they would still be in the show.

If there could be a "new" show about the Conners, sans Roseanne, like some people have suggested, it could work if they didn't talk about her anymore and didn't have such political divisiveness.  I doubt that will happen though.

Roseanne just cooked her own golden goose and has announced she is off Twitter now.  Too little, way too late.  She should just go back to her nut farm where she apparently belongs.

[willowk]

44 minutes ago, Mmmfloorpie said:

I guess we should be thankful there was a revival.

I for one am very thankful. I loved catching up with them all, we just had what 10 episodes? And we not only got to see the main characters but David, Crystal, Beverly, Chuck etc. They did end this season on a hopeful note, so although Darlene is waitressing in the casino she's still writing, Becky may go back to college, Roseanne will get her operation, and Dan back in business due to the flood. Only character that didn't move forward was Jackie -but enjoyed her onscreen moments, especially the episodes with her mom, very much.

[TigerLynx]

Damn.  This sucks.  I was really enjoying Darlene and Becky.  Michael Fishman might not be the greatest actor, but I also liked what they were doing with DJ, his wife and daughter.

[TV Diva Queen]

14 minutes ago, 2727 said:

10 minutes ago, callie lee 29 said:

I'm assuming one of the reasons it's not going on (and no spinoff) is Barr would get a cut as she probably characters (at least partial) to both the show and chatacters.

I'm actually really proud ABC for this. Good for them. 

She doesn't own the characters and I forget who does, she has just a little piece of them; she said as much on a Howard Stern interview a couple months ago.  She said that she made sure that Seinfeld learned from her mistake.  

Edited May 29, 2018 by TV Diva Queen

[TheOtherOne]

Reruns of the original being pulled from three channels as well.

[txhorns79]

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Why not just fire Roseanne and not cancel the show? Is there a reason I am not thinking of?

Possibly there are contracts that make it so the show cannot continue without her, or it would require a messy renegotiation of contracts that ABC does not want to deal with. 

Edited May 29, 2018 by txhorns79

[readster]

1 minute ago, TV Diva Queen said:

She said that she made sure that Seinfeld learned from her mistake.  

Oh I remember that too. Something Joss Weadon did with Buffy and related characters. As for my thoughts on this, it's just sad, but Roseanne did it to herself and it does drive me insane people who call for the end of Colber or SNL thinking they were one in the same. Just like Last Man Standing was from people didn't want politics when it really came down to expenses and that ABC should have just been more forth coming. However, at least the final episode ended on a positive note, but I was looking forward to season 2. 

[GoldenGirl90]

[After7Only]

37 minutes ago, Lili said:

Then they would need to change the name of the show. If Roseanne herself is no longer part of it, it wouldn't really make sense to still call it Roseanne.

Anyway, I just heard about this news now. Such a shame.

It's not unprecedented.  In the 90s Valerie Harper had a family sitcom called "Valerie".   There was some issues with the producers/network, and they decided to fire her.  But they kept the show going, killed off Valerie, brought in Sandy Duncan as the aunt and renamed the show "The Hogan Family".   I wouldn't be surprised if ABC has a change of heart, kill of Rosanne's character and rename the show "The Conners"

[Cupcake04]

52 minutes ago, saylubee said:

I’m cynical enough to wonder if this wasn’t part of Roseanne’s (as in Roseanne Barr the person) plan all along.  I never got the feeling she was as into the reboot as some of the other characters.  She doesn’t own it, Sara Gilbert was the executive producer, ABC had their hands in the cookie jar and season two was supposed to be less political and more normal sitcom... the whole thing makes me think that Roseanne always had Twitter as her “out”.

This was my first thought too.  That she didn't anticipate the success the show would have or it's immediate renewal and that she didn't really want to do season 11 and this was her way out.  Then again I am a cynical bitch at times!  lol

[GHScorpiosRule]

1 minute ago, After7Only said:

It's not unprecedented.  In the 90s Valerie Harper had a family sitcom called "Valerie".   There was some issues with the producers/network, and they decided to fire her.  But they kept the show going, killed off Valerie, brought in Sandy Duncan as the aunt and renamed the show "The Hogan Family".   I wouldn't be surprised if ABC has a change of heart, kill of Rosanne's character and rename the show "The Conners"

It was during the '80s and Valerie Harper was fired over a pay dispute.

[txhorns79]

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In the 90s Valerie Harper had a family sitcom called "Valerie".   There was some issues with the producers/network, and they decided to fire her.  But they kept the show going, killed off Valerie, brought in Sandy Duncan as the aunt and renamed the show "The Hogan Family".   I wouldn't be surprised if ABC has a change of heart, kill of Rosanne's character and rename the show "The Conners"

It was the mid-80s, she walked off the set at the beginning of the third season as a way to try to get more money, and missed a few episode tapings as a negotiating tactic.  She was then fired.  With Roseanne, I think it would be harder to go on without Roseanne, but it might be possible.

[ChicksDigScars]

5 minutes ago, TheOtherOne said:

Reruns of the original being pulled from three channels as well.

Thanks a lot, Roseanne.  Believe it or not, those old shows (except for the Voldemort Season Nine) were staples on Saturday's while I cleaned.  Dammit.  

[ketose]

3 minutes ago, ChicksDigScars said:

Thanks a lot, Roseanne.  Believe it or not, those old shows (except for the Voldemort Season Nine) were staples on Saturday's while I cleaned.  Dammit.  

There's still the LAFF channel over the air. For now.

Now that there's a half hour opened up, is there any chance for "Kevin (Probably) Saves the World" to come back?

[peacheslatour]

5 minutes ago, ChicksDigScars said:

Thanks a lot, Roseanne.  Believe it or not, those old shows (except for the Voldemort Season Nine) were staples on Saturday's while I cleaned.  Dammit.  

Same here. Oh well, c'est la vie. I guess I'll go back to Law and Order reruns.

Edited May 29, 2018 by peacheslatour

[zoeysmom]

John Goodman is retweeting tweets about  a spin off or continuing without Roseanne.  That would actually be the best solution.