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Just now, Sarcastica said:

This episode was amazing. This one is staying on the DVR. 

Drunk Sonja would try to bang a squirrel. Anything alive. 

I am surprised none of the Villa's male employees didn't get molested by her!

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I've got to say I'm team Doris on the dinner thing.  Yes, I get Beth being annoyed that no one was there on what she thought was the time for dinner.  However, Beth went in hot with Doris and she was just one of six others that weren't 'on time'.  Doris told her to chill.  She was right but Beth didn't let it go.  She just continued on and on.  I also found Beth and Tinsley's making fun of Dor at the table mean.  And it just added fuel to the fire.  As for what Dor said, I think she said what most of the other women feel about 'Skinnygirl' and Beth.  And Beth's moment of tearing about her not saying anything about half of what she does because she thinks the other women are jealous?  I think it's more of a situation of the other women being tired of the endless promotion during filming and social media.  It's like money talks.  Wealth whispers.  Why does Beth feel the 'need' to talk about her deals?  Her shoving Skinnygirl down their throats is more than enough.

On seeing naked 'ladies':  Sonja looked a whole lot sexier than Beth.  That's just my opinion as a woman.  Maybe a guy who likes oversized breasts would feel differently.

Seeing Lu and Doris putting a bathing suit on So was just....  Yeah, in one sense it was hilarious.  Especially since they were putting Beth's bathing suit on her.  In another sense, it was pathetic.

I get Lu telling Tins to stop with the 'f' bombs.  But Tins made a huge come back regarding Palm Beach.

I thought the fish tale was cute.  And apparently, after watching WWHL, no one figured it out.

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2 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Fakest tears ever from Ramona. 

Has Sonja ever been this forward on camera? She better stay away from Dorinda. Dorinda will knock her out. 

can't stop lol re your dorinda comment.  love it!

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2 hours ago, Alonzo Mosely FBI said:

I love Luann but man she's had the Palm versus West Palm Beach thing coming for a long while! Big difference and Luann knows it.

Firmly in Dorindas camp. Bethenny is mean. 

Lastly in the social edition of last week's ep someone wrote in "What are you doing here drinking tequila without Dorinda!" Hahahahaha loved it 

As pretentious as LuAnn can be, I'm shocked that she didn't think someone would clock her on this.

I can't be on Dorinda's side in that fight. She pulled the same shit with Heather. It didn't make any fucking sense and she never apologized for it. She did the same thing with LuAnn last year in the Berkshires and accused LuAnn of insulting her mother. Bethenny might be mean, but Dorinda does this drunken nasty belligerent asshole thing too often.

Porsha Williams, have you met Sonja Morgan? I believe you've already heard about her plans for you in her sex dungeon. No drugging though.

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27 minutes ago, enchantingmonkey said:

It doesn't seem to be in her nature to get involved with petty squabbles and the nasty pigtail-pulling the other ladies engage in but I do appreciate her sense of humor in her THs.  And it's nice to have a voice of reason in the midst of all of the madness.  I don't think they spend too much airtime on her.  

i differ with you re carole.  her first season she was pretty nasty ( for carole) to the countess.  she then had a twitter war with the countess over adam.  

this season she is trying to redeem herself for last year when she appeared to be a'mean girl'.  she received a lot of flack for last year

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Anyone know how ratings are going fo this season?  This season seems to have been pretty short...which i understand they do when ratings are low.

I've really enjoyed this season.  Oh, and Dorinda has to be on something...more than tequila I mean.  IMO, of course.

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54 minutes ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Gosh, I really want to side with Beth, but then you look at it: she's furious at Sonja, she's furious at Lu, she's furious at Ramona, she's furious at Dorinda. Most of the time, the other person is being an idiot, but Beth does get offended/hurt fairly often/easily. 

Bethenny is furious non stop, except when she's drunk and weepy, Dorinda had no need to say sorry, everything she said was right on. The sooner Bethenny is off my screen the better, FFS , stop being such an entitled brat BF! And FFS eat something!! 

Sonja, you're a special kind of stupid, its embarrassing to watch you.ugh!

3 minutes ago, The Solution said:

Damn. Bethenny looks like one of those hairless cats when she's naked.

Rofl!!! With her ribs sticking out. Eww!

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"It's like putting a bikini on a piece of spaghetti."  Ha!  I wonder if Sonja is mortified by her behavior.  I can't believe she actually said she wanted to butt-f Ramona.  

How long were B and Ramona in the pool?  It seemed like it was sunny then pitch dark.  They must have been prunes!  So odd to have that fight/discussion in a pool while naked.  

OMG Bethenny impersonating Lu and her obsession with Palm Beach was everything!  I may have to watch that more than the 5 times I just did.  

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54 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

Beth tries to portray herself as a thick skinned bad ass business woman but she is really just an insecure person with a smart ass mouth for deflection and self preservation.

She has a big mouth, which is probably why Dennis gave up, and her friends all seem to be very young interns..

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16 minutes ago, Jextella said:

This season seems to have been pretty short...which i understand they do when ratings are low.

This season is 19 episodes before the Reunion.  Last season was 20 episodes before the Reunion.  Season 7 was 19 episodes.  

The ratings look similar to last season's, although the last 3 episodes of last season with all of the Tom drama scored a little higher than this trip to Mexico.  This trip to Mexico has been the highest of the season.

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2 hours ago, Lemons said:

Does dorinda have implants?  Or tinsley?  All the other ones are super obvious. I think Sonja has the best implants, Bethany's are too big and Luanne and Ramona both have big matronly boobs. 

Dorinda was on Wendy Williams last year and she and Wendy bonded over getting implants in the same year (some point in the early '90s). Dorinda doesn't really dress to accentuate them on the show, but I remember the first time she was on WWHL, she wore a low-cut white dress and looked very va-va voom.

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This episode was amazing. I'm thankful they didn't stretch it out to more, but I'd bet they have enough footage. 

I thought everyone contributed something to the greatness that this was, Carole included. 

I probably couldn't take a season of this...though I started "Basketball Wives" again so maybe I could. Point is, this hit the spot and I want more. 

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3 minutes ago, JakeyJokes said:

Dorinda was on Wendy Williams last year and she and Wendy bonded over getting implants in the same year (some point in the early '90s). Dorinda doesn't really dress to accentuate them on the show, but I remember the first time she was on WWHL, she wore a low-cut white dress and looked very va-va voom.

She always looks good to me.:)

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According to how we watched the show Lu was not the first one to say her Rose and Thorn after Bethenny explained it so how did she not know what she was saying was not the topic??  I want to know if "editing" switched the scenes.  

I like Tinsley and happy that she has her apple for next year.  I do not think that Bravo would allow the coupon commercial if they didn't already decide and tell her that she's in.  

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3 hours ago, Wendy said:

but would there still be some kind of tip? 

Don't mess with Dorinda, the honey badger of drunks.

Palm Beach and West Palm Beach are different, but Luann's condescending attitude is the same in both places.

When Ramona hugs you and starts crying like a virgin who just had her first orgasm, that's when the danger is most real.

Never go to a second Facetime location with Drunk Sonja.

Bethenny + dinner = Eat, Cray, No Love.

Oh, wait -- you meant a money tip? ; )

1 hour ago, breezy424 said:

I also found Beth and Tinsley's making fun of Dor at the table mean.  And it just added fuel to the fire.

I agree. Bethenny gets to sob in Ramona's arms like Scarlett saying goodbye to Ashley (WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT MOMENT?)  but Dorinda, clearly upset, is mocked for pulling a "dramatic act"? Pfft.  (Cue the shower music from "Psycho" and raise that knife, Honey Badger.) I liked Sonja this episode -  when she wasn't talking -- and watching them trying to get a suit on her was like watching a squirming toddler refusing to be dressed (if the toddler were sitcom sex mad and sucking on a tequila gogurt).  And Tinsley fell right into her first major trip like a porn star onto a waterbed -- between the West Palm Beach ref and  Tinsley's "I got a rock" attitude towards her breasts, she proved her value to the show (and she didn't have to get naked or take a crotch shot to do it).

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3 hours ago, IKnowRight said:

A picture is worth a thousand words...

 

google homes in West Palm Beach, then Palm Beach...such as Mar-a-lago...

I'm familiar with the Palo Alto areas where  even the run down tiny places are starting at 575.000 up to million then the west palm beach there were 52,000 and 55,000. Crazy. 

Although I've had way too much to drink imyself in my youth I've never had the desire to suck a friends face or see her boobs. Then again I've never stabbed a table or had a screaming match in a restraunt either. I guess that's why it's fun to watch.  RoMona is a dog in heat. 

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Omg the best part was Dorinda putting Bethanny's bikini on fricking Sonia and Sonia drunkenly telling her that it wasn't her bottoms. If you're going to steal something wear it right. Lol

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Sigh, leave it to this dopey show to bring up the dopey, snobbish notion of Palm Beach vs. West Palm Beach.  Is it dopey & snobbish?  Oh sure -- and yet it def exists.  Does anyone care?  Maybe not, but I like how this show "records" the existence of it.  It's similar to the idiotic snobbishness of Quogue being a "lesser" Hamptons village.  Oy.  

The only thing I'm puzzled by is Lu's reaction to Palm Beach vs. West Palm Beach.  I'd think she would agree with Tinz & say WPB is not good enough for her.  After all, she was the one who seemed to be horrified at the thought of deigning to step into Quogue.  But she's OK with  WPB?  Is Lu lowering her standards, now that she ain't a countess anymore?  Really?  Wow, worlds are colliding!

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4 hours ago, snarts said:

Yes, but when flying to visit a friend who lives in Dunedin, FL, I often saying that I'm going to Tampa.  I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm just using the larger city name.  Isn't West Palm just a suburb?

That said, Tinsley was just embarrassed for being called out for her drunk ass profanity at the restaurant, she retaliated against someone she knew wouldn't viciously come back at her.

I go to Dunedin, FL for business.  Small world.  I think I usually just say I'm going to FL.  I don't recall ever being asked to clarify.  I like Dunedin, it reminds me of my home town and shares a name with a place I really enjoy (Dunedin, NZ).  

 

I'm glad Bethenny is happy with her purchase and thinks she has the best boobs, but I think many would beg to differ. 

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6 hours ago, snarts said:

Yes, but when flying to visit a friend who lives in Dunedin, FL, I often saying that I'm going to Tampa.  I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm just using the larger city name.  Isn't West Palm just a suburb?

That said, Tinsley was just embarrassed for being called out for her drunk ass profanity at the restaurant, she retaliated against someone she knew wouldn't viciously come back at her.

Oh, no.  As others have stated, Palm Beach and West Palm are world's apart yet geographically close. Palm Beach is the birthplace of the clothing line, Lilly Pulitzer (the actual person was an heiress born in NY that graduated from Miss Porter's--where Lu's daughter was kicked out of). 

6 hours ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Miss social climber Luanne knows the difference. She wants to be seen a certain way. 

She definitely knows the difference.  She is just trying to pretend which is just sad to me. Stop trying to pretend that you are Palm Beach when you aren't. It is like this NYC penthouse. It is UES but it is also only a 1 bedroom and on the 20th floor. He paid $1.5 million for it in 2011. She is trying to give off an image that just isn't true anymore. 

6 hours ago, mbaywife123 said:

Good grief, SonJa should have just squatted over her phone for "Frenchie"

What ever happened to leaving something to the imagination?

Dude, how was Frenchie not getting seasick from her constantly waving the phone around?  Plus, she never actually held it still long enough for him to be able to see anything. 

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7 hours ago, snarts said:

Yes, but when flying to visit a friend who lives in Dunedin, FL, I often saying that I'm going to Tampa.  I'm not trying to fool anyone, I'm just using the larger city name.  Isn't West Palm just a suburb?

That said, Tinsley was just embarrassed for being called out for her drunk ass profanity at the restaurant, she retaliated against someone she knew wouldn't viciously come back at her.

Not the same - Palm Beach has far fewer people because it's far more exclusive - like a private little perfect world filled with rich people living in luxury. West Palm is a normal sprawling city where the median house price is $218,500 according to Zillow.

5 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Can someone explain what Beth meant when she said, "You think that my suitcase isn't already perfectly almost packed on the way home? I know exactly who I am!"

I thought Bethenny was saying that she realizes she's an uptight, control freak.

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8 hours ago, ivygirl said:

 

I like to mix in circles, cliques, and social coteries... but this west coast gal has no idea what the differences are. She's making it sound like the difference between Palo Alto (one of the most expensive places to live in the US) and East Palo Alto (sadly, one of the most economically challenged cities in the Bay Area). 

What are the differences? Heaven forfend I misspeak and confuse the two!

 

7 hours ago, ivygirl said:

Huh, thanks. Kinda the difference between the OC and Beverly Hills. Sorta.

Still kinda sounded like The Tinz thought West Palm was Shantytown...

The shopping district in Palm Beach does remind me of a smaller, more charming Rodeo Drive - but Beverly Hills in 2016 had a pop of 34,687 while Palm Beach had 8,690. Small and exclusive. Very pretty town in a beautiful setting with its own private climate - the gulf stream keeps it cooler in summer, warmer in winter.

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Oh, no.  As others have stated, Palm Beach and West Palm are world's apart yet geographically close. Palm Beach is the birthplace of the clothing line, Lilly Pulitzer (the actual person was an heiress born in NY that graduated from Miss Porter's--where Lu's daughter was kicked out of). 

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Not the same - Palm Beach has far fewer people because it's far more exclusive - like a private little perfect world filled with rich people living in luxury. West Palm is a normal sprawling city where the median house price is $218,500 according to Zillow.

I realize they are different places.  My point was that the airport one would fly into is Palm Beach, correct?  So, Luann saying that she's going to Palm Beach for the weekend is no different than me telling someone that I'm going to LA for the weekend when my hotel is actually in Santa Monica.  

Then again, for someone like Tinsley, the distinction is obviously important.  I wonder if they share a jail?

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8 hours ago, ivygirl said:

 

I like to mix in circles, cliques, and social coteries... but this west coast gal has no idea what the differences are. She's making it sound like the difference between Palo Alto (one of the most expensive places to live in the US) and East Palo Alto (sadly, one of the most economically challenged cities in the Bay Area). 

What are the differences? Heaven forfend I misspeak and confuse the two!

When I visited Palm Beach last winter, we stayed in West Palm Beach (because we could afford that) but drove over the bridge Tinsley refers to and walked around Palm Beach to see the expensive shops and estates.  (FYI you can't even see the estates because they are surrounded by five layer hedges some of which are ten feet tall.)  Palm Beach is on the ocean; West Palm Beach is inland.  Google Aerin Lauder's estate or The Breakers hotel for visuals.  West Palm Beach is nice; Palm Beach is exclusive.

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6 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Can someone explain what Beth meant when she said, "You think that my suitcase isn't already perfectly almost packed on the way home? I know exactly who I am!"

She was saying she knows that she is anal retentive. 

Did anyone else catch Sonja's comment when she was in drunk make-out mode "Where's Lu? She's always down for a dance? Oh well I guess she can't now that she's married." Seems to be implying that she and Lu have done more than kiss.. On one hand, Sonja has been known to lie/exaggerate. On the other hand...(cue music from "Fiddler on the Roof")

 

Yea I wasn't on anybody's "side" during the Dor/Beth fight because Dor can be an ass when she's drunk. But Beth can be an ass with or without alcohol. I get what Dor was saying to her, I just wish D hadn't brought up the whole "Skinny Girl day" thing because then B was able to turn it into a "these bitches R jus jealis" rather than "hmm yea I am being an uptight bitch." 

 

I did admittedly (and authentically) LOL at B's talking head imitating Lu about the Palm Beach stuff. That was some funny shit. 

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5 hours ago, ScoobieDoobs said:

The only thing I'm puzzled by is Lu's reaction to Palm Beach vs. West Palm Beach.  I'd think she would agree with Tinz & say WPB is not good enough for her.  After all, she was the one who seemed to be horrified at the thought of deigning to step into Quogue.  But she's OK with  WPB?  Is Lu lowering her standards, now that she ain't a countess anymore?  Really?  Wow, worlds are colliding!

I loved it when Drunk Tinz ever so subtlety schooled Lu on the true Palm Beach standards of desirable areas! 

There went Lu trying to go all stealth bitch on her when she kept saying "Oh you live with your mom there? Your MOM??" And then Tinsley just left her mute with a simple 'whatever' stealthier bitch sorta moment---despite her public fall from the highest of Manhattan's society scenes, Tinz's roots still run much wealthier and healthier than Lu's *ever* could hope to be.

Good Lord, Bethenny is beyond tiresome. No wonder she clashed with several fun folks on this getaway.

I like her and all, but the way she rants and raves and shrieks and pushes everyone around on vacay, and then acts all criminally butthurt the next morning when someone dares to drunkenly shouts her ass her down, it's just ridiculous. She's sure not the most considerate travel host since she's so goddamned demanding on a trip full of drunks who just wanna chillax and eat at their own leisure---calm down and drink a margarita pitcher, Beth!

That said, I loved nasty drunk Dorinda this episode. She was like a slurring Joey Soprano. Anyone who took that shit she was bellowing seriously needs a head check. She veered into nasty drunk land, but at least she made it nice with Beth by the next day.

Oh Sonja...just when I think LuAnn was the drunkest of the ladies on this trip, Sonja goes and shows just what a wild lush she truly is. The crown of Drunkest of them All still belongs to Sonja In the City!!

 

3 minutes ago, Duke2801 said:

I did admittedly (and authentically) LOL at B's talking head imitating Lu about the Palm Beach stuff. That was some funny shit. 

Oh yes, now that was hilarious!! Good take on an otherwise pointless stealth bitch moment.

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44 minutes ago, snarts said:

I realize they are different places.  My point was that the airport one would fly into is Palm Beach, correct?  So, Luann saying that she's going to Palm Beach for the weekend is no different than me telling someone that I'm going to LA for the weekend when my hotel is actually in Santa Monica.  

Then again, for someone like Tinsley, the distinction is obviously important.  I wonder if they share a jail?

Nope, the airport is in West Palm Beach. 

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For me, it was all insanely drunken shenanigans and slurring skirmishes until the yogi (as repeated by Bethany) said, "What you say is your journey, how I react is mine." Then it was like one of those twist endings in a movie in which suddenly EVERYTHING that occurred before has a completely different, deeper meaning. Damn, it was pretty profound. We got to the core of most of them--all of their deepest issues completely bared.

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I've just crossed that invisible line with this crew...they were the last Real Housewives that I've continued to watch, but I realize that I'm done:  the screeching, the crying, the narcissism just reached the tipping point for me last night.

I perked up a bit when Carole jumped off the boat, thinking that maybe they were doing a Shark Week tie-in (I've been in that area and sea life is crazily abundant, including sharks -I thought the captain was crazy to let her jump off the boat...then thought maybe "crazy-like-a-fox"..), but no such luck.

I will, of course, continue reading the comments here...I'm loving the ptv posters' never-ending Snark Week!!

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30 minutes ago, Sun-Bun said:

I loved it when Drunk Tinz ever so subtlety schooled Lu on the true Palm Beach standards of desirable areas! 

There went Lu trying to go all stealth bitch on her when she kept saying "Oh you live with your mom there? Your MOM??" And then Tinsley just left her mute with a simple 'whatever' stealthier bitch sorta moment---despite her public fall from the highest of Manhattan's society scenes, Tinz's roots still run much wealthier and healthier than Lu's *ever* could hope to be.

Good Lord, Bethenny is beyond tiresome. No wonder she clashed with several fun folks on this getaway.

I like her and all, but the way she rants and raves and shrieks and pushes everyone around on vacay, and then acts all criminally butthurt the next morning when someone dares to drunkenly shouts her ass her down, it's just ridiculous. She's sure not the most considerate travel host since she's so goddamned demanding on a trip full of drunks who just wanna chillax and eat at their own leisure---calm down and drink a margarita pitcher, Beth!

That said, I loved nasty drunk Dorinda this episode. She was like a slurring Joey Soprano. Anyone who took that shit she was bellowing seriously needs a head check. She veered into nasty drunk land, but at least she made it nice with Beth by the next day.

Oh Sonja...just when I think LuAnn was the drunkest of the ladies on this trip, Sonja goes and shows just what a wild lush she truly is. The crown of Drunkest of them All still belongs to Sonja In the City!!

 

Oh yes, now that was hilarious!! Good take on an otherwise pointless stealth bitch moment.

I gotta say, Sun-Bun, that I never give anyone a pass for drunken assholism. I agree with Bethenny that the sentiment expressed is reflective of real feelings that lurk below. If someone said stuff like that to me when drunk, it would instantly move them to side eye status. In vino veritas and all. 

Dorinda covers up a lot of the hostile stuff she says with her "motherly" delivery -- she's only saying it because she cares dontcha know.  I do not think she's a bad person, on the contrary, but she's got her emotional baggage like anyone else, and maybe (for some) a more palatable way of expressing it. (Not to me, I'd rather it be dished straight up and direct, but mv).  

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Bethenny poked the bear in that fight. 1) she wouldn't stfu about people being late, 2) she accused Dorinda of 'acting', 3) she (and Tinsley) made fun of Dorinda swinging her arms around. At first Dorinda tried, drunkenly, to say you don't have to be perfect all the time - isn't it stressful? I don't feel like she was attacking at that point. It wasn't until 2 & 3 happened that Dorinda went into ADD (Angry Drunk Dorinda) mode.

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Wow. So much drunkenness. That's tequila for you. These women were off the charts. 

First we have Sonja, barely able to stand, trying to get down everyone's pants, being redressed in Bethenny's bikini. Good Lord, Sonja. Go back on the wagon. 

Then Ramona brings us her weekly edition of "Singers Repeated Sayings". This week it was, "I don't know! I DON'T know! I don't KNOW!" I just never believe her when she breaks down and makes up with someone, because she always ends up stinging them again. But, hey, that's B's choice to make. Sometimes it is just easier to have peace with the Ramonacoaster. 

Tinsley was pretty plastered as well - which apparently causes her to alternate between five-year-old (Fireworks!!! Whoopee!!!) and crusty, old sailor ("mother fucking fucker!"). 

And of course Dorinda has to put them all to shame. I feel like I need a translator for drunk Dorinda. I didn't get half the shit she was saying. But I do think Dorinda is the type who gets all sensitive when drunk and takes things super personally. I used to get the same way. But then she masks that hurt with anger and defensiveness. The thing between her Bethenny was so minor, and it got blown way out of proportion. I'm glad they made up, because they're my favorites. 

Sonja butt-timing her "boyfriend" was all sorts of pathetic. 

I love the idea of the "Thank You and Fuck You" party. Sonja is the type you never want to do you a favor. You're going to hear about it for the rest of your fucking life. 

I'm still confused about the difference between Palm Beach and West Palm. 

Fucking Lu, calling Tom the "rose" of her trip. She knew damn well what they were talking about. Give it a rest. The only rose he is is one covered in thorns. 

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7 hours ago, hoodooznoodooz said:

Can someone explain what Beth meant when she said, "You think that my suitcase isn't already perfectly almost packed on the way home? I know exactly who I am!"

I took it to mean she knows she's obsessive about things (like being organized and neat and on time, among others), and she recognizes that she's OTT with it to the point of nuttiness.  I think she was trying to explain her reaction/apologize to Dorinda for getting so upset about people being on time by saying that -- like recognizing that she knows her emotional reaction to people being late is not normal.

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9 hours ago, Pickles said:

This NY bunch is so much more fun to watch than the OC ladies.

I was thinking the exact same thing.  These ladies have their fights but the OC women (can't call them ladies) really don't seem to care for each other.  

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35 minutes ago, diadochokinesis said:

Nope, the airport is in West Palm Beach. 

True, but it's called the Palm Beach International Airport, so one could be forgiven for saying one is flying in to Palm Beach.

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This NY bunch is so much more fun to watch than the OC ladies.

I'll say!  I watched OC just before this one:

1) Child's birthday party -- BORING

2) Teaching teen to drive -- BORING

3) Vaginal rejuvenation -- STUPID AND EWWW

4) Tamra straining to produce one  JUST ONE real tear  -- WHO CARES?

5) Sleazy Ryan crying -- LOSER

OC is like watching a bad home movie with a little medical infomercial thrown in.

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