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He pleaded not guilty!! He’s going to let this go to trial? Dumbass. He’s going away for a long time and will never spend time with those kids when he eventually gets out. Wonder if he’s going to try and pin this on somebody else?

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Just now, JoanArc said:

The only bright spot is that this will drive a stake through the heart of the empire. Maybe.

The other bright spot is this all got started under the previous administration so the Duggars can't blame politics for this.

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I want to throw up. I just hoped it was something not child-related. 

I feel so sorry for his children. Even if they ever go non-fundie and have actual educations or jobs, they're still going to be "the pervert's kids." It's not fair to them. 

 

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I was looking forward to Josh getting charged with some sort of financial or real estate or tax crimes and then involving  a bunch of other Duggers, or JB and M at the very least.  I could then enjoy the schadenfreude of watching it all play out and all or some of them going down hard.

This just makes me sick to my stomach.  I will still watch it play out but it will be a  hate watch.  And I certainly hope that any enablers get caught as well.

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2 hours ago, the-grey-lady said:

Oh my god, y'all.

For all the snarking I've been doing out this – and I stayed up until 2 snarking – I was so hoping for a white collar crime.

Me too.

2 hours ago, WinnieWinkle said:

#BREAKING #JoshDuggar "Duggar is charged by indictment with receiving and possessing child pornography."

So, yeah, the computer gave his sleazy ways away.  Ugh.  I wonder what the penalty for this is in Arkansas?

 

It's a federal crime so the same all over the USA. Per the press release, the penalty for each count is a sentence of up to 20 years in prison and a fine up to $250,000.

2 hours ago, riverblue22 said:

I hope he restricted his perversion to his computer.  Poor kids~

Yep. I hate to think about what he could have done if he did more than look at stuff on the computer.

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5 minutes ago, WinnieWinkle said:

#BREAKING #JoshDuggar "Duggar is charged by indictment with receiving and possessing child pornography."

So, yeah, the computer gave his sleazy ways away.  Ugh.  I wonder what the penalty for this is in Arkansas?

 

It wont matter. It is federal, so he will be facing federal, not state, charges. 

Sorry this thread is fast-moving, and I didn't realize someone had already responded! 

I had hoped for the sake of any victims it would not be anything sexual. Ugh. 

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16 minutes ago, Annb67 said:

Shit!  If Anna doesn’t leave his ass I say get cps involved and get those kids out! You know they will be sneaking those kids to him!! Damn you Josh!!

I hope so. If Josh goes to "live" on one of the other properties, I have no doubt that JB and J'chelle would welcome him back to the TTH any time he wanted to drop by, and Anna would absolutely let him spend as much time at the warehouse as he wanted.

They all see this as a Jesus issue with Josh letting "Satan build a fortress in his heart," and nothing more. What he needs is more family, and more praying, and more oversight, not prison.

I'm going to guess that his defense will be that liberals broke into the car dealership and downloaded images to smear the name of a good, God-fearing family man.

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1 minute ago, Annb67 said:

He pleaded not guilty!! He’s going to let this go to trial? Dumbass. He’s going away for a long time and will never spend time with those kids when he eventually gets out. Wonder if he’s going to try and pin this on somebody else?

That doesn't necessarily mean he's headed for a trial - he can always change the plea later as part of a plea bargain. 

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Any mother that fails to protect her children from abuse is complicit and to continue to bring more children into this? My good will ran out a long time ago for Anna but I wish her and her children safety and security outside of this fold. 

I hope this isn’t what Josh was making money off of and her crowing about him being a “diligent provider”. 

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7 minutes ago, WinnieWinkle said:

#BREAKING #JoshDuggar "Duggar is charged by indictment with receiving and possessing child pornography."

So, yeah, the computer gave his sleazy ways away.  Ugh.  I wonder what the penalty for this is in Arkansas?

 

He’s facing federal charges on this. They don’t play. He’s looking at a lengthy jail sentences if convicted.

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I know on my state they are harsh on this. I had a friend who had a husband caught with this. 5 years PER CHARGE. Not debatable. He even was charged with RECEIVING it. If he received those files he is busted! This guy pled guilty and spent ten years in prison. He was released, registered as a sex offender. Can’t be anywhere near a school, kids, etc. 

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Okay, I am clueless about any of this…but that Sun article references a charge of downloading “a” photo and possessing “a” photo? Is that possible? Would they bother with going after Josh for that? 

If there’s only one, I can see a good defense attorney arguing that and winning pretty handily?

 

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Just now, Oldernowiser said:

Okay, I am clueless about any of this…but that Sun article references a charge of downloading “a” photo and possessing “a” photo? Is that possible? Would they bother with going after Josh for that? 

If there’s only one, I can see a good defense attorney arguing that and winning pretty handily?

 

FWIW, the phrasing of the actual indictment says images plural. 

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26 minutes ago, crazy8s said:

cousin emily (peters) better return to her own home

But how will Anna cope, without her cousin-mom and her mentee!!! Must have those young girls around for slave duty ! 

That's the thing that pisses me off most about the million-children thing, I think....Among many many things that piss me off about it. 

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14 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

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OK, but if the charge is based on downloading stuff from the Internet, just staying in a house with no minors is not enough. He needs to not have access to the Internet as well.

That's a standard provision in these cases.   He just may be fitted with a tether if he makes bond.

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7 minutes ago, farmgal4 said:

I think that he may off himself over this.

I don’t. He’s been Heir to the Arkansas Fundie Throne for a very long time and his parents, wife, and TLC have all kept things pretty cushy for him no matter what he did. 

As long as they can all tell themselves that it’s Satan’s fault, he’s fine. And his smug shot has that look.

The damage to the brand, however, is not something they can fix this time.

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1 minute ago, Oldernowiser said:

Okay, I am clueless about any of this…but that Sun article references a charge of downloading “a” photo and possessing “a” photo? Is that possible? Would they bother with going after Josh for that? 

If there’s only one, I can see a good defense attorney arguing that and winning pretty handily?

 

the sun piece is their usual crap. the link someone posted above of the actual court documents tells the real story.

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29 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Well this just took the wind outta my sails. How tragic. Josh is scum.

This was my thought too. I could be gleeful about financial stuff but if this is child related, and it looks to be so, then I am just sad upon sad. I can't be happy about that - only happy that he's been caught and will root for justice. 

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13 minutes ago, Madtown said:

Sexual abuse material on children under 12! What a fucking disgusting piece of shit! I hope he gets those max 20 years, he should get life for that!


I will NEVER feel sorry for Anna. CPS needs to take those kids, I don't care if it's allowed or not, they need to be elsewhere. Now she has another one on the way. UGH! I just can't! Fuck you too Jessa!

20 years PER CHARGE. 

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5 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

Okay, I am clueless about any of this…but that Sun article references a charge of downloading “a” photo and possessing “a” photo? Is that possible? Would they bother with going after Josh for that? 

If there’s only one, I can see a good defense attorney arguing that and winning pretty handily?

 

They wouldn't have charged him if it was a one off (or even 2 or 3).

 

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Just now, MargeGunderson said:

I’m a little surprised that it’s “only” receiving and possessing. I wonder if distribution (sharing images with others) will get added to the charges at some point. 
 

 We don’t know enough about the circumstances to tell if he distributed or not.  The only details I really want to know is that children were not harmed. 

 

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24 minutes ago, WinnieWinkle said:

#BREAKING #JoshDuggar "Duggar is charged by indictment with receiving and possessing child pornography."

So, yeah, the computer gave his sleazy ways away.  Ugh.  I wonder what the penalty for this is in Arkansas?

 

He's been arrested by the feds - so it will be whatever the federal penalties are for it... and they are severe. Not sure the specifics but it's not insignificant.

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