JD and Abbie: Captured Before the Rapture

[Tikichick]

16 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

I think it's because we can't see both of her arms.

That's precisely part of my issue, the way Kendra's shoulder is turned into and under JD's arm makes it appear she has an arm around his back.  Even though she may not, the way her torso is turned would compromise how much leverage that arm would have underneath Gracie.    

[absnow54]

It does look weird, but I'm pretty sure Abbie has her arm under Gracie's knees and Gracie's bum is supported on Abbie's hip.

[QuinnInND]

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNm0xmtn8yp/?igshid=r8cdtalwrrea

Edited April 13, 2021 by QuinnInND

[libgirl2]

34 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNm0xmtn8yp/?igshid=r8cdtalwrrea

She is a cutie. She looks really happy. 

[Snow Fairy]

But her thin arms in the first picture creep me out a bit

Edited April 13, 2021 by Snow Fairy

[ozziemom]

And a creepy comment from Hilaria. She spends a lot of time commenting on IG.

[laurakaye]

16 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

And a creepy comment from Hilaria. She spends a lot of time commenting on IG.

I would stand up and applaud if Abbie becomes the first Duggar to block that crazy beyotch.

 

[beckie]

37 minutes ago, ozziemom said:

And a creepy comment from Hilaria. She spends a lot of time commenting on IG.

What was the response from Hilaria?

[laurakaye]

3 minutes ago, beckie said:

What was the response from Hilaria?

Something about Gracie being cute enough for Hilaria to eat her up, and saying that her kids want to keep JD and Abbie's Christmas card up so they can stare at Gracie all the time.

Edited April 13, 2021 by laurakaye

[Liddy52]

6 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Something about Gracie being cute enough for Hilaria to eat her up, and saying that her kids want to keep JD and Abbie's Christmas card up so they can stare at Gracie all the time.

I am sure Hilaria thought she was being complimentary, but it is pretty creepy. 

Edited April 13, 2021 by Liddy52

[libgirl2]

17 minutes ago, Liddy52 said:

I am sure Hilaria thought she was being complimentary, but it is pretty creepy. 

Well hopefully next year this time, she will have her own grandchild and she can leave Gracie alone. 

[BitterApple]

Gracie is a doll. Hilaria is a weirdo.

[Spazamanaz]

I've never had an instagram account, but I've never had problems with someone's pictures/account showing up... until recently. The only thing that pops up now is the log in. Anyone else have this problem? 

[Zella]

1 hour ago, laurakaye said:

Something about Gracie being cute enough for Hilaria to eat her up, and saying that her kids want to keep JD and Abbie's Christmas card up so they can stare at Gracie all the time.

[GeeGolly]

I think Hilary is posting more for the followers. She wants everyone to know she rates a Duggar Xmas card.

[iwantcookies]

1 hour ago, beckie said:

What was the response from Hilaria?

 

[Zella]

So, I know the phrase "eat her up" as an affectionate one. But Hilaria literally says "we could eat her." Like a threat of cannibalism. Is--is Hilaria taking social media tips from Armie Hammer? 😄 😄 😄 

Edited April 13, 2021 by Zella

[Snow Fairy]

10 hours ago, Spazamanaz said:

I've never had an instagram account, but I've never had problems with someone's pictures/account showing up... until recently. The only thing that pops up now is the log in. Anyone else have this problem? 

Yes, that happens to me too

But I have an account with my e-mail set for this types of things, so I can still follow

[ginger90]

For those that can’t access Instagram links:

[Spazamanaz]

Yes, thank you!!

[farmgal4]

1 hour ago, ginger90 said:

For those that can’t access Instagram links:

OMGoodness!  She’s a little doll baby!!! 😍

[SMama]

Love her little teeth!

[MargeGunderson]

In the top pic she looks like JD, but like Abby in the bottom pic. She’s an adorable combination of the two.

[MunichNark]

Very sweet but her arms seem to be very very thin, no?

[emmawoodhouse]

It's Abbie's birthday! Sadly, the screenshot is too large to post, but it can be found in duggarfam's stories. 

[ginger90]

[BigBingerBro]

[Normades]

Okay, I admit this is a pet peeve of mine because it happens with my name as well, but seriously, couldn't Carlin look at the post and see that Abbie spells her name A-B-B-I-E and not A-B-B-Y?  Stop being so lazy. 

[DangerousMinds]

2 minutes ago, Normades said:

Okay, I admit this is a pet peeve of mine because it happens with my name as well, but seriously, couldn't Carlin look at the post and see that Abbie spells her name A-B-B-I-E and not A-B-B-Y?  Stop being so lazy. 

I agree, it’s lazy and disrespectful.

[BitterApple]

I understand AutoCorrect can be a bitch, but Carlin is literally looking at Abbie's name right in front of her as she types. I know she's dumb as dirt, but come on. 

[GeeGolly]

Like @Normades, misspelling someone's name on SM drives me crazy. I see it on FB birthday wishes all the time. Sarah as Sara, Lili as Lily, Meghan as Megan, Sean as Shawn. Their names are right there in front of them.

[QuinnInND]

25 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Like @Normades, misspelling someone's name on SM drives me crazy. I see it on FB birthday wishes all the time. Sarah as Sara, Lili as Lily, Meghan as Megan, Sean as Shawn. Their names are right there in front of them.

Exactly. Even if it's an odd or ridiculous spelling, or a ridiculous name it's rude and disrespectful to misspell someone's name. And you should take extra care to make sure names are spelled correctly. 

[NotthebadVictoria]

20 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

Exactly. Even if it's an odd or ridiculous spelling, or a ridiculous name it's rude and disrespectful to misspell someone's name. And you should take extra care to make sure names are spelled correctly. 

Is Abbie short for Abigail or is her name Abbie? I know a LOT of people who will not spell the names correctly and do not give a shit because it’s not the “legal name” so there is no “one way” it must be spelt. 
 

not condoning it at all, I’ve dealt with it all my life, but besides the fact that Carlin is damn near Illiterate it wouldn’t surprise me if she was one of those.

Edited April 19, 2021 by NotthebadVictoria

[doodlebug]

2 hours ago, NotthebadVictoria said:

Is Abbie short for Abigail or is her name Abbie? I know a LOT of people who will not spell the names correctly and do not give a shit because it’s not the “legal name” so there is no “one way” it must be spelt. 
 

not condoning it at all, I’ve dealt with it all my life, but besides the fact that Carlin is damn near Illiterate it wouldn’t surprise me if she was one of those.

If that's the case, then call her 'Abigail; be done with it.  However, it is certainly possible that her name is actually Abbie.

In grade school, I had a friend named Liddie, an old family name.  One of the nuns insisted that this could not possibly be her real name and insisted on referring to her as Lydia and would only accept work from her with that first name.  I thought it was awful then and haven't changed my mind with time.  If Carlin is such a 'sweet friend' of Abbie's, then she should get her name right.

I cannot imagine Carlin letting it slide if someone wrote her name as Karlin or her baby as Leila.

[NotthebadVictoria]

3 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

If that's the case, then call her 'Abigail; be done with it.  However, it is certainly possible that her name is actually Abbie.

In grade school, I had a friend named Liddie, an old family name.  One of the nuns insisted that this could not possibly be her real name and insisted on referring to her as Lydia and would only accept work from her with that first name.  I thought it was awful then and haven't changed my mind with time.  If Carlin is such a 'sweet friend' of Abbie's, then she should get her name right.

I cannot imagine Carlin letting it slide if someone wrote her name as Karlin or her baby as Leila.

Oh for sure! I had family do this to me because my nickname was not my birth name, and they couldn’t be bothered to ask or pay attention. And you are right, Carlin wouldn’t like it! 

[Westiepeach]

41 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

If that's the case, then call her 'Abigail; be done with it.  However, it is certainly possible that her name is actually Abbie.

In grade school, I had a friend named Liddie, an old family name.  One of the nuns insisted that this could not possibly be her real name and insisted on referring to her as Lydia and would only accept work from her with that first name.  I thought it was awful then and haven't changed my mind with time.  If Carlin is such a 'sweet friend' of Abbie's, then she should get her name right.

I cannot imagine Carlin letting it slide if someone wrote her name as Karlin or her baby as Leila.

I have a friend whose name is Melissa. She said in her Catholic grade school she was not acknowledged because there was not a saint named Melissa. She was basically ignored.

ETA: She was ignored by the nuns.

Edited April 20, 2021 by Westiepeach

[doodlebug]

38 minutes ago, Westiepeach said:

I have a friend whose name is Melissa. She said in her Catholic grade school she was not acknowledged because there was not a saint named Melissa. She was basically ignored.

ETA: She was ignored by the nuns.

Getting ignored by nuns is not the worst thing that could happen, IMO.  I know someone who named their kid Ronald Jr. and got the same sort of flak from the priest who baptized the baby, even though Dad was a lifelong Catholic and had been baptized with the very same name.  I believe the middle name saved the day.

Abbie and JD and Gracie look to be such a tight, happy family, good for them.

[floridamom]

JD took Abbie to an air show for HER birthday? Wow, what a great guy. This activity was plainly for him. We all know it's John David who is in to flying. Abbie didn't know or care much about it before she was involved with him. He should have done something special for HER; something she enjoys. I have a suspicion it's a "Jeremy love books; so I love books" thing with her...I hope not. 

[MsJamieDornan]

36 minutes ago, floridamom said:

Abbie didn't know or care much about it before she was involved with him.

The poor girl had to have her wedding in a darn airplane hanger.

[GeeGolly]

Abbie might have been impressed with JD and 'his' plane. I can see how it might be easy to get got up in the 'glamour' of flying and fully embrace it.

I realize they're not flying in private jets, but they are flying in a private plane. To Abbie it may be fun and kind of cool. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

17 hours ago, Normades said:

Okay, I admit this is a pet peeve of mine because it happens with my name as well, but seriously, couldn't Carlin look at the post and see that Abbie spells her name A-B-B-I-E and not A-B-B-Y?  Stop being so lazy. 

Pet peeve of mine as well, especially since so many people (including many of my cousins) misspell my name by either doubling a letter in the middle, or starting it with an E or a Y, when it's actually spelled with an I.

I can't even imagine how one could respond to something which has the person's name right there, and still misspell it.

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Abbie might have been impressed with JD and 'his' plane. I can see how it might be easy to get got up in the 'glamour' of flying and fully embrace it.

I realize they're not flying in private jets, but they are flying in a private plane. To Abbie it may be fun and kind of cool. 

I'm sure she is caught up in it. Flying, no matter the vehicle, is cool. Hard to deny that. 

Nevertheless, to make flying the center of life was his choice in the first place, not hers.

And we're talking about incredibly slanted, bigoted patriarchal values passed down through generations here, likely in both families.

Under those patriarchal values, it's always the guy whose preferences prevail in a case like this. And always the female who goes along because she loves him. And who goes along silently and without even any thought that she might prefer some different kind of celebration for HER birthday and has just as much right as he does to have her preferences rule what they do sometimes. 

This may seem cute and benign in an individual case. "Oooh, Abbs just loves that flyin' that big manly JD does! Isn't that sweet for their marriage!" 

But what it produces on the larger scale is a whole system -- and their evangelical community is a system -- that by this means skews virtually every significant decision in the males' favor and effectively represses females' ability to view their own preferences as options that can and should compete on equal footing for considerations with the mens' preferences. 

The oft-heard idea that actually the women run things behind the scenes is bullshit in terms of the overall system, which is the big thing that really rules everybody's life behind the scenes.

Jessa may be the pushy person in her marriage who generally runs the household.

Nevertheless, she -- and Ivy --  live in a world where a huge huge proportion of the most important and valued opportunities that exist for the males simply do not exist for them. Suppose Ivy -- or Jessa!--  decides she'd like to work for money outside the home so they can afford to remodel and create some extra bedrooms? Suppose Ivy -- or Jessa -- feels the call to attend seminary and preach the gospel to others as Bin (!!!!) does.

The pattern their world follows has made those things virtually unthinkable.....

And when paths in life are simply not open to you based on a rigid, bigoted, stereotyped view of your sex (or color, or income level, or national origin, or whatever trait irrelevant to the issue at hand this denial-of-opportunity is based on), then in that system you are lesser. You are deprived of choice and of power, and because of that you are inevitably seen as of lesser value in your world than the people who are allowed that power and those choices. And that's true despite any protestations anybody may make to the contrary. 

This is the attitude that skews a whole society toward one group. And that's ultimately bad for everybody because the group (both groups, actually) is/are deprived of individual freedom of choice overall and society at large is deprived of the full input of an entire sex. 

Let's just think again of private airplanes... While even as a passenger, flying in small crafts can be exciting and fun, of course, it's way more fun -- and a million times more empowering -- to be the pilot rather than hubbies' and brothers' perpetual passenger.....

But is it possible that, in this gang, the females have both an internal bar and a likely external bar against that, both put in place by the male-dominant system they live in?

Joy, the tomboy, experimented a bit with learning to pilot, I seem to remember. But then she backed off it, saying something about how it wasn't for her, I think. Why? Maybe that decision wasn't the male-dominant system making her feel less fully competent and more fearful than the males....But maybe it was.....

These are people living in a world that fully intends to be very patriarchal. So my inclination is to not let them off the hook for decisions, like "Abbie's Birthday Trip," that when looked at individually appear kind of benign! 😁

 

 

Edited April 20, 2021 by Churchhoney

[SMama]

I thought I read here or on the other forum that Abbie was taking flying lessons. Anyone remember this? 

[Churchhoney]

2 minutes ago, SMama said:

I thought I read here or on the other forum that Abbie was taking flying lessons. Anyone remember this? 

Now that you mention it, I have a vague memory of that too. Hoping that it's true!

I was very disappointed when Joy quickly backed out of pilot training....

[farmgal4]

On 4/17/2021 at 6:03 PM, ginger90 said:

I think Abbie is so cute!

[SMama]

Just now, Churchhoney said:

Now that you mention it, I have a vague memory of that too. Hoping that it's true!

I was very disappointed when Joy quickly backed out of pilot training....

I don’t think Joy ever intended to become a pilot. Just another story line for their boring show. IIRC she went up with JD and they flew over the TTH. At a point JD had her take control for a few. Heck, Travis did the same with a Bates guy. 
 

FWIW, emergencies happen and it’s a smart idea to know how to fly those tin cans. 

[Normades]

18 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

I was very disappointed when Joy quickly backed out of pilot training....

Personally, I don't think the world needs dimbulb Joy at the controls of an aircraft. YMMV. 

I don't see a problem with Abbie going to the air show.  She seems to embrace flying and looks like she enjoys it.  I'm sure they like getting Gracie excited about their interests, too.  Lots of couples expose each other to new hobbies/ideas.  My boyfriend like flying, too and I would def go to an air show, even on my birthday.  I like theater and museums.  He enjoys those with me.  The air show would make more exciting pictures than a museum.  Since Abbie has shown some agency in her life, I don't worry about her giving in to all of JD's interests.  They seem to have a good partnership.  Now if it were one of the other girls (Kendra, Joy, Anna), I can see the point of them being overridden on their interests. 

[MsJamieDornan]

55 minutes ago, SMama said:

I thought I read here or on the other forum that Abbie was taking flying lessons. Anyone remember this? 

I think you're right.

[DangerousMinds]

5 hours ago, Normades said:

Personally, I don't think the world needs dimbulb Joy at the controls of an aircraft. YMMV. 

I don't see a problem with Abbie going to the air show.  She seems to embrace flying and looks like she enjoys it.  I'm sure they like getting Gracie excited about their interests, too.  Lots of couples expose each other to new hobbies/ideas.  My boyfriend like flying, too and I would def go to an air show, even on my birthday.  I like theater and museums.  He enjoys those with me.  The air show would make more exciting pictures than a museum.  Since Abbie has shown some agency in her life, I don't worry about her giving in to all of JD's interests.  They seem to have a good partnership.  Now if it were one of the other girls (Kendra, Joy, Anna), I can see the point of them being overridden on their interests. 

But has Abbie ever been shown to have ANY of her own interests? Other than nursing, which she did seem to enjoy. Does she volunteer anywhere with the elderly? I seem to remember she worked with that population and enjoyed it .

Edited April 20, 2021 by DangerousMinds

[Boston]

20 hours ago, doodlebug said:

If that's the case, then call her 'Abigail; be done with it.  However, it is certainly possible that her name is actually Abbie.

In grade school, I had a friend named Liddie, an old family name.  One of the nuns insisted that this could not possibly be her real name and insisted on referring to her as Lydia and would only accept work from her with that first name.  I thought it was awful then and haven't changed my mind with time.  If Carlin is such a 'sweet friend' of Abbie's, then she should get her name right.

I cannot imagine Carlin letting it slide if someone wrote her name as Karlin or her baby as Leila.

Those dang nuns - I assume (maybe wrongly) this was a Catholic school.. No correcting them. (yes, I went to Catholic school for 8 years - got a great education - but alot of stress/yelling.. oh and my brother got a physical beating (the class clown) monthly til my mom went down and threw down)