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Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp


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I mean, they are fixing these homes up to sell.  I was under the impression that builders and the like tend to keep things pretty generic to appeal to a wider market.  Imposing your own style on the house/kitchen can put off buyers because it's just not "them".  Better to have a nice white kitchen that is easily imagined in various styles with different colors of accessories or decorative touches.  If it's some styled thing, it looks like it will be work and money to change it, which a lot of buyers are just not interested in, especially if it's a recent remodel.

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1 minute ago, ouinason said:

I mean, they are fixing these homes up to sell.  I was under the impression that builders and the like tend to keep things pretty generic to appeal to a wider market.  Imposing your own style on the house/kitchen can put off buyers because it's just not "them".  Better to have a nice white kitchen that is easily imagined in various styles with different colors of accessories or decorative touches.  If it's some styled thing, it looks like it will be work and money to change it, which a lot of buyers are just not interested in, especially if it's a recent remodel.

That’s what I thought too. I also think these houses are in similar neighborhoods and price points- makes sense to me that they are the same. 

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4 hours ago, Chicklet said:

Why do all of the Duggar and Duggar-adjacent peeps' kitchen renovations/builds look the same?

thank Chip and Joanna Gaines and one of their greatest fans Jana.  7 houses have sold on our small street during the pandemic. all look pretty much like this. white cabinets, white tile, stainless appliances and laminate wood floor. every wall white or grey. zero color.

the duggars are amazingly on trend with the reno/flips.

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15 hours ago, crazy8s said:

thank Chip and Joanna Gaines and one of their greatest fans Jana.  7 houses have sold on our small street during the pandemic. all look pretty much like this. white cabinets, white tile, stainless appliances and laminate wood floor. every wall white or grey. zero color.

the duggars are amazingly on trend with the reno/flips.

They sell faster that way is my understanding. Paint is cheap if anyone wants to add color. Plus furnishings and something bright hanging on the walls can accomplish a lot.  We painted all the rooms in this house before we moved in because the other folks liked their color. 

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2 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I think Giddy-up looks like Joy with Austin's nose and Evelyn is all Austin. I don't see much of Joy in her at all, but that may change as she grows.

Well Evelyn is a baby. Babies are supposed to look dad for evolutionary purposes. (Basically it helps dad bond with the kid.)

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14 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I think all babies get cuter around the 3 month mark. When they start to become aware and have life in their eyes and expressions. 

And eyebrows! I always think babies look pretty alien until their eyebrows become more visible.

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On 10/1/2020 at 5:26 PM, doodlebug said:

There have been studies on newborns.  People were shown photos of babies and asked to match them up with their parents' photos based on their looks.  Strangers were far more likely to be able to figure out who the father was than the mother; giving rise to the notion that it is genetically/evolutionarily advantageous to resemble the paternal parent. This was especially true back in the days where times were tough and people had to work hard just to survive.

A mother knows her child, she doesn't need a baby to look like her in order to love it and care for it; she gave birth, she knows it's hers.  Meanwhile, the father doesn't have the biologic connection at birth with his child.  But, if he sees the child looks like him; he is going to have an easier time claiming it as his own which will then motivate him to provide food and shelter for it.  Kids who don't resemble their father at birth are more likely to be rejected by him and not provided for as well, which can lead to their early deaths.  Hence, newborns who look like their father are more likely to survive and thrive; so evolution favors them.  Of course, babies change almost daily and end up resembling either parent or neither; but when speaking of newborns, they're more likely to resemble Dad.

Evelyn is one of those babies whose shoes are cute.  Her hat is adorable.  But, all of that could change at any time as she grows.  Look at Felicity who was a very cute baby but is now kinda meh as a toddler.

Very true.  My brother ended up with a woman who was 'estranged' from her husband and supposedly wasn't able to get pregnant, so they found no harm in getting busy.  Surprise, surprise!

My dad had a fit about my brother insisting it was his and was ready to wash his hands of them.  Wouldn't you know it, baby came out looking exactly like my brother and me.  So much so that as a kid she'd see old photos of me and get confused because those weren't her clothes. "Those aren't your clothes, that's your aunt and that was 25 years ago."

Everybody always said God (or evolution, I guess) must have known what He was doing, because there was no way anybody in the family could deny that was my brother's child.  

Sidenote:  They ended up getting married a few  months after my niece was born and stayed together for over 20 years until her passing.  So I guess sometimes it all works out.

Then again, I think very few babies are actually cute (my brother, niece and I are of course the exceptions!) and none of the Duggars have challenged that opinion.  Then again again, I don't think most of them make cute kids and, as adults, are passable at best.

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I think what makes babies beautiful to their parents and some family members is that the baby looks like them in some or a lot of ways. I think that goes along with @doodlebug’s thoughts above. Not only for bonding but when I looked at my babies I could see me sometimes, their father sometimes etc. so to me that made them beautiful. They were nice looking babies with no unusual features but that’s all they would have been to strangers. Now I look at the grands the same way. They are all very nice looking children but gorgeous to me and Mr lookeyloo and their parents. So joy looks at her children, sees herself and Austin and is totally smitten. As it should be 

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2 hours ago, Chicklet said:

It's nice if Daddy pays for the fuel, but can you see Jblob paying for his son-in-law to fly his daughter and kids to Alabama? That's pretty expensive.

And I can confirm that they used one of Duggar Aviation's planes for their transport. I wonder what's really happening down there in Bama?

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I Googled fuel cost for a small plane. Surprisingly, at least to me, its less than I thought.

"The average small plane fuel burn rate is five-to-10 gallons per hour. Aviation fuel is significantly more expensive than typical automotive fuel, averaging $5 dollars per gallon."

So depending how long they were in the air, the flight might have cost under $100.00. Probably not that much more than a road trip if you consider gas, tolls and food.

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7 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I Googled fuel cost for a small plane. Surprisingly, at least to me, its less than I thought.

"The average small plane fuel burn rate is five-to-10 gallons per hour. Aviation fuel is significantly more expensive than typical automotive fuel, averaging $5 dollars per gallon."

So depending how long they were in the air, the flight might have cost under $100.00. Probably not that much more than a road trip if you consider gas, tolls and food.

Not to mention a road trip from Arkansas to Alabama is going to take a day, at least, depending on where they're going.  Travelling with a toddler and a newborn for 8 or more hours in a car is a special kind of hell, I'd think.  Also,  it might require an overnight stay someplace along the route and more expenses.

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13 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

Not to mention a road trip from Arkansas to Alabama is going to take a day, at least, depending on where they're going.  Travelling with a toddler and a newborn for 8 or more hours in a car is a special kind of hell, I'd think.  Also,  it might require an overnight stay someplace along the route and more expenses.

Yep, if they can use an airport with low (or no) landing fees, they are basically just out of pocket for the fuel. From experience I can say that if the destination is more than say, a ten hour (or eight hour) car drive, flying even commercially may be at least break-even if not less expensive than driving. By the time you factor in fuel, food, and lodging costs, that "free" car trip can really add up. I have chosen to drive a long distance to visit folks on the East Coast, but it was definitely quite an outlay of time and money, and was motivated in great part by a desire to sight-see on the way there and back. 

And as noted, a long car trip with a newborn and a toddler sounds exhausting!

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22 hours ago, QuinnInND said:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CF7ezhiJqM5/?igshid=j0kzv8j3c7ze

The way she's holding the baby. Ugh. That's not how you hold one! 

I used to hold my baby dolls better than that when I was little.  

13 hours ago, awaken said:

Seeing them in the plane scares the crap out of me. Waiting for a disaster to happen. 

It scared me too when baby Gracie went on her first flight with JD, Abbie and Aunt Jana.  I know these kids will grow up like it's no big deal to fly in one of these unsafe sardine cans but it really upsets me when they take an very young infant along like Evey.  Is it ok to remove baby from car seat? (I realize Duggars aren't big on safety.) How does Joy feed her?  How do you deal with crying spells that babies get for no reason?  I guess it's up to whoever is riding shotgun with the baby to be the caretaker.  

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