ouinason September 29, 2020 Share September 29, 2020 I mean, they are fixing these homes up to sell. I was under the impression that builders and the like tend to keep things pretty generic to appeal to a wider market. Imposing your own style on the house/kitchen can put off buyers because it's just not "them". Better to have a nice white kitchen that is easily imagined in various styles with different colors of accessories or decorative touches. If it's some styled thing, it looks like it will be work and money to change it, which a lot of buyers are just not interested in, especially if it's a recent remodel. 17 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6375803
Scarlett45 September 29, 2020 Share September 29, 2020 1 minute ago, ouinason said: I mean, they are fixing these homes up to sell. I was under the impression that builders and the like tend to keep things pretty generic to appeal to a wider market. Imposing your own style on the house/kitchen can put off buyers because it's just not "them". Better to have a nice white kitchen that is easily imagined in various styles with different colors of accessories or decorative touches. If it's some styled thing, it looks like it will be work and money to change it, which a lot of buyers are just not interested in, especially if it's a recent remodel. That’s what I thought too. I also think these houses are in similar neighborhoods and price points- makes sense to me that they are the same. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6375806
crazy8s September 29, 2020 Share September 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Chicklet said: Why do all of the Duggar and Duggar-adjacent peeps' kitchen renovations/builds look the same? thank Chip and Joanna Gaines and one of their greatest fans Jana. 7 houses have sold on our small street during the pandemic. all look pretty much like this. white cabinets, white tile, stainless appliances and laminate wood floor. every wall white or grey. zero color. the duggars are amazingly on trend with the reno/flips. 1 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6376167
emmawoodhouse September 30, 2020 Share September 30, 2020 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6376733
lookeyloo September 30, 2020 Share September 30, 2020 15 hours ago, crazy8s said: thank Chip and Joanna Gaines and one of their greatest fans Jana. 7 houses have sold on our small street during the pandemic. all look pretty much like this. white cabinets, white tile, stainless appliances and laminate wood floor. every wall white or grey. zero color. the duggars are amazingly on trend with the reno/flips. They sell faster that way is my understanding. Paint is cheap if anyone wants to add color. Plus furnishings and something bright hanging on the walls can accomplish a lot. We painted all the rooms in this house before we moved in because the other folks liked their color. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6376982
QuinnInND September 30, 2020 Share September 30, 2020 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6377478
libgirl2 October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 5 hours ago, QuinnInND said: Those Forsyth genes are strong. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6377972
GeeGolly October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 9 minutes ago, libgirl2 said: Those Forsyth genes are strong. Funny how we all see resemblances differently. I see all Joy with both kids, with the exception of Giddy's nose. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6377999
emmawoodhouse October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 With Giddy, I see Boob's smile on Austin's face. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6378086
GeeGolly October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 I see Giddy looking like Joy in both these pictures. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6378441
libgirl2 October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 8 hours ago, GeeGolly said: I see Giddy looking like Joy in both these pictures. Yes, I can see it. Maybe its the nostrils? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6378842
BitterApple October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 I think Giddy-up looks like Joy with Austin's nose and Evelyn is all Austin. I don't see much of Joy in her at all, but that may change as she grows. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6378865
Temperance October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 2 hours ago, BitterApple said: I think Giddy-up looks like Joy with Austin's nose and Evelyn is all Austin. I don't see much of Joy in her at all, but that may change as she grows. Well Evelyn is a baby. Babies are supposed to look dad for evolutionary purposes. (Basically it helps dad bond with the kid.) 2 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6379087
DangerousMinds October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Temperance said: Well Evelyn is a baby. Babies are supposed to look dad for evolutionary purposes. (Basically it helps dad bond with the kid.) Except for the many babies who don’t look like their dads . 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6379414
Popular Post doodlebug October 1, 2020 Popular Post Share October 1, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, DangerousMinds said: Except for the many babies who don’t look like their dads . There have been studies on newborns. People were shown photos of babies and asked to match them up with their parents' photos based on their looks. Strangers were far more likely to be able to figure out who the father was than the mother; giving rise to the notion that it is genetically/evolutionarily advantageous to resemble the paternal parent. This was especially true back in the days where times were tough and people had to work hard just to survive. A mother knows her child, she doesn't need a baby to look like her in order to love it and care for it; she gave birth, she knows it's hers. Meanwhile, the father doesn't have the biologic connection at birth with his child. But, if he sees the child looks like him; he is going to have an easier time claiming it as his own which will then motivate him to provide food and shelter for it. Kids who don't resemble their father at birth are more likely to be rejected by him and not provided for as well, which can lead to their early deaths. Hence, newborns who look like their father are more likely to survive and thrive; so evolution favors them. Of course, babies change almost daily and end up resembling either parent or neither; but when speaking of newborns, they're more likely to resemble Dad. Evelyn is one of those babies whose shoes are cute. Her hat is adorable. But, all of that could change at any time as she grows. Look at Felicity who was a very cute baby but is now kinda meh as a toddler. Edited October 1, 2020 by doodlebug 14 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6379573
emma675 October 1, 2020 Share October 1, 2020 I've often noticed that the most "unique" looking babies and toddlers grow up to be the most beautiful adults. I think Evelyn will grow into her nose eventually. It's just a very large, adult feature on a baby face. 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6379578
GeeGolly October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 I think all babies get cuter around the 3 month mark. When they start to become aware and have life in their eyes and expressions. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6380417
emmawoodhouse October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 6 weeks and still not cute. 4 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6380991
Absolom October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 I like her expressions. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381008
rue721 October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 I think she’s cute 😂 She has such a grown up face, it cracks me up. 13 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381067
emmawoodhouse October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 She's not a Winston Churchill baby or a potato baby. I don't know how to categorize her. 😁 4 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381074
BitterApple October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 It's a bummer she got Austin's nose, but she'll grow into it (hopefully). 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381160
iwantcookies October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 She is cuter than Ivy. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381188
Westiepeach October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 I still think she will grow up to be georgeous! She will grow into her face. 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381372
dargosmydaddy October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 (edited) 14 hours ago, GeeGolly said: I think all babies get cuter around the 3 month mark. When they start to become aware and have life in their eyes and expressions. And eyebrows! I always think babies look pretty alien until their eyebrows become more visible. Edited October 3, 2020 by dargosmydaddy 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381428
charmed1 October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 5 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said: She's not a Winston Churchill baby or a potato baby. I don't know how to categorize her. 😁 She’s breathtaking. 16 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381626
Sile October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 (edited) On 10/1/2020 at 5:26 PM, doodlebug said: There have been studies on newborns. People were shown photos of babies and asked to match them up with their parents' photos based on their looks. Strangers were far more likely to be able to figure out who the father was than the mother; giving rise to the notion that it is genetically/evolutionarily advantageous to resemble the paternal parent. This was especially true back in the days where times were tough and people had to work hard just to survive. A mother knows her child, she doesn't need a baby to look like her in order to love it and care for it; she gave birth, she knows it's hers. Meanwhile, the father doesn't have the biologic connection at birth with his child. But, if he sees the child looks like him; he is going to have an easier time claiming it as his own which will then motivate him to provide food and shelter for it. Kids who don't resemble their father at birth are more likely to be rejected by him and not provided for as well, which can lead to their early deaths. Hence, newborns who look like their father are more likely to survive and thrive; so evolution favors them. Of course, babies change almost daily and end up resembling either parent or neither; but when speaking of newborns, they're more likely to resemble Dad. Evelyn is one of those babies whose shoes are cute. Her hat is adorable. But, all of that could change at any time as she grows. Look at Felicity who was a very cute baby but is now kinda meh as a toddler. Very true. My brother ended up with a woman who was 'estranged' from her husband and supposedly wasn't able to get pregnant, so they found no harm in getting busy. Surprise, surprise! My dad had a fit about my brother insisting it was his and was ready to wash his hands of them. Wouldn't you know it, baby came out looking exactly like my brother and me. So much so that as a kid she'd see old photos of me and get confused because those weren't her clothes. "Those aren't your clothes, that's your aunt and that was 25 years ago." Everybody always said God (or evolution, I guess) must have known what He was doing, because there was no way anybody in the family could deny that was my brother's child. Sidenote: They ended up getting married a few months after my niece was born and stayed together for over 20 years until her passing. So I guess sometimes it all works out. Then again, I think very few babies are actually cute (my brother, niece and I are of course the exceptions!) and none of the Duggars have challenged that opinion. Then again again, I don't think most of them make cute kids and, as adults, are passable at best. Edited October 3, 2020 by Sile Throttle back on the Duggar stuff 12 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6381746
Joan of Argh October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 14 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said: She's not a Winston Churchill baby or a potato baby. I don't know how to categorize her. 😁 I think she's in the Pug category 9 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6382063
lookeyloo October 3, 2020 Share October 3, 2020 I think what makes babies beautiful to their parents and some family members is that the baby looks like them in some or a lot of ways. I think that goes along with @doodlebug’s thoughts above. Not only for bonding but when I looked at my babies I could see me sometimes, their father sometimes etc. so to me that made them beautiful. They were nice looking babies with no unusual features but that’s all they would have been to strangers. Now I look at the grands the same way. They are all very nice looking children but gorgeous to me and Mr lookeyloo and their parents. So joy looks at her children, sees herself and Austin and is totally smitten. As it should be 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6382108
QuinnInND October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 https://www.instagram.com/p/CF7ezhiJqM5/?igshid=j0kzv8j3c7ze The way she's holding the baby. Ugh. That's not how you hold one! 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383574
ouinason October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 Hey Austin, why don't YOU grab your son so that Joy can properly and securely hold your daughter? Or, this will be shocking, hold the baby so that Joy can properly hang on to Giddy. 21 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383595
QuinnInND October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 42 minutes ago, ouinason said: Hey Austin, why don't YOU grab your son so that Joy can properly and securely hold your daughter? Or, this will be shocking, hold the baby so that Joy can properly hang on to Giddy. But that's wimmins work! 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383651
floridamom October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 I looked at that photo of Evey and it looked like she was about to slip out of that messy blanket and hit the ground. What idiots. God really does watch over those babies. 10 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383711
BitterApple October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 I love how Joy is wrangling baby, diaper bag and toddler, while Austin stands there like a lump. Some things never change. 7 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383831
emmawoodhouse October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 What's in Alabama? Anyone? 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383850
anna0852 October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 32 minutes ago, BitterApple said: I love how Joy is wrangling baby, diaper bag and toddler, while Austin stands there like a lump. Some things never change. He's emulating his brother-in-law. Smuggar never helps with the kids either. 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383865
ozziemom October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 15 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said: What's in Alabama? Anyone? Where are the Bowers? Joe and Kendra are visiting them along with the Caldwells. Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383869
emmawoodhouse October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 (edited) I think the Bowers are in Iowa. Just saw the IG pic. They are in Alabama. Could have sworn they moved to Iowa from Idaho to be close to the Bontragers. Edited October 4, 2020 by emmawoodhouse 1 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383905
HahYallDoin October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 59 minutes ago, emmawoodhouse said: What's in Alabama? Anyone? Me 😂 I couldn’t resist 😉 But seriously, go back from whence you came, folks. ‘Bama already gets heat, we don’t need your brand of crazy too!!! 4 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383917
crazy8s October 4, 2020 Share October 4, 2020 nothing says we are frugal like a private plane and kids with ear protection 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6383932
BigBingerBro October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 It makes me wonder how all this flying stuff works with them. Do they need to schedule these flights with daddy, or can they just carte blanche take a flight whenever they feel like it? Must be nice. 3 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6384158
Chicklet October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 It's nice if Daddy pays for the fuel, but can you see Jblob paying for his son-in-law to fly his daughter and kids to Alabama? That's pretty expensive. 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6384195
awaken October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 Seeing them in the plane scares the crap out of me. Waiting for a disaster to happen. 14 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385057
emmawoodhouse October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Chicklet said: It's nice if Daddy pays for the fuel, but can you see Jblob paying for his son-in-law to fly his daughter and kids to Alabama? That's pretty expensive. And I can confirm that they used one of Duggar Aviation's planes for their transport. I wonder what's really happening down there in Bama? 2 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385085
BitterApple October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, awaken said: Seeing them in the plane scares the crap out of me. Waiting for a disaster to happen. I agree, it's only a matter of time. Poorly maintained airplanes plus Duggar pilots is an NTSB investigation waiting to happen. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385087
GeeGolly October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 I Googled fuel cost for a small plane. Surprisingly, at least to me, its less than I thought. "The average small plane fuel burn rate is five-to-10 gallons per hour. Aviation fuel is significantly more expensive than typical automotive fuel, averaging $5 dollars per gallon." So depending how long they were in the air, the flight might have cost under $100.00. Probably not that much more than a road trip if you consider gas, tolls and food. 8 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385351
doodlebug October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 7 hours ago, GeeGolly said: I Googled fuel cost for a small plane. Surprisingly, at least to me, its less than I thought. "The average small plane fuel burn rate is five-to-10 gallons per hour. Aviation fuel is significantly more expensive than typical automotive fuel, averaging $5 dollars per gallon." So depending how long they were in the air, the flight might have cost under $100.00. Probably not that much more than a road trip if you consider gas, tolls and food. Not to mention a road trip from Arkansas to Alabama is going to take a day, at least, depending on where they're going. Travelling with a toddler and a newborn for 8 or more hours in a car is a special kind of hell, I'd think. Also, it might require an overnight stay someplace along the route and more expenses. 9 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385768
Minivanessa October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, doodlebug said: Not to mention a road trip from Arkansas to Alabama is going to take a day, at least, depending on where they're going. Travelling with a toddler and a newborn for 8 or more hours in a car is a special kind of hell, I'd think. Also, it might require an overnight stay someplace along the route and more expenses. Yep, if they can use an airport with low (or no) landing fees, they are basically just out of pocket for the fuel. From experience I can say that if the destination is more than say, a ten hour (or eight hour) car drive, flying even commercially may be at least break-even if not less expensive than driving. By the time you factor in fuel, food, and lodging costs, that "free" car trip can really add up. I have chosen to drive a long distance to visit folks on the East Coast, but it was definitely quite an outlay of time and money, and was motivated in great part by a desire to sight-see on the way there and back. And as noted, a long car trip with a newborn and a toddler sounds exhausting! 6 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385787
Barb23 October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 22 hours ago, QuinnInND said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CF7ezhiJqM5/?igshid=j0kzv8j3c7ze The way she's holding the baby. Ugh. That's not how you hold one! I used to hold my baby dolls better than that when I was little. 13 hours ago, awaken said: Seeing them in the plane scares the crap out of me. Waiting for a disaster to happen. It scared me too when baby Gracie went on her first flight with JD, Abbie and Aunt Jana. I know these kids will grow up like it's no big deal to fly in one of these unsafe sardine cans but it really upsets me when they take an very young infant along like Evey. Is it ok to remove baby from car seat? (I realize Duggars aren't big on safety.) How does Joy feed her? How do you deal with crying spells that babies get for no reason? I guess it's up to whoever is riding shotgun with the baby to be the caretaker. 2 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385810
BigBingerBro October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 I did a little research and the cost of owning and flying own of those small planes like the Duggars own averages out to be about $200 an hour. Factors to consider are not just gas, but oil, maintenance and inspection costs, insurance, and storage. 2 5 Link to comment https://forums.primetimer.com/topic/51212-joy-and-austin-this-one-time-at-family-camp/page/182/#findComment-6385872
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