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  1. rue721

    S1.03: Made You Look

    I think that Rue's obsession with Jules is just that she's trying to use infatuation as a replacement for drugs. She uses Jules to get the rush that she would otherwise get from getting high. That's why whenever Jules isn't around or acts distant, Rue freaks out and goes looking for drugs immediately. Honestly, though Jules is cool and all, I think that she could be basically anyone -- Rue is after that rush of infatuation and obsession, it's not about Jules as a person. I think that Rue has that thing that all drunks and addicts have, where when they're at their worst, they're also so drunk/high that they're not that conscious of what they're doing and don't remember it clearly afterward. So they're able to brush it off like it was nothing, because it's some hazy experience that wasn't intense for them at all, when meanwhile everyone around them was fucked the hell up by it. At least Ali talked to her about thinking about how her behavior was affecting her sister. Obviously her mother, sister, and old friends like Lexi are the ones who she's affecting the most. But I think that Fezco's issues with her are coming from basically the same thing. He said in the pilot that he was really scared and upset when Rue OD'ed, he keeps refusing to sell her drugs and told her he wouldn't help her kill herself, he told his supplier he won't sell Fentanyl to anyone because it causes too many ODs, when his supplier made Rue take Fentanyl, he immediately made his brother (?) flush the patches and get the Narcom in case she OD'ed again, he flat out wouldn't let her in the house again once he was the one answering the door instead of the kid, etc. Rue had some legitimate points when she was yelling at him that he doesn't have the moral high ground while he's dealing to teenagers and helping them get addicted. But I think he's in a tough spot because while it seems like he really is taking that to heart, I really doubt that he started dealing drugs because he had SO many options and just picked his favorite one. I mean, I don't really know that there's a path out of dealing for him, you know? Honestly, I think Kat getting validation and a "piggy bank" is kind of best case scenario for her, and I'm happy that she's landed on her feet. She's bound to get a big head and screw things up somehow, but in the meantime... Oh, I did find it funny that the drug dealing kid was like, "we don't fuck with human trafficking," and then immediately took a cut for himself from Kat's underage porn earnings. LOL I mean, that's not human trafficking per se, he's not her pimp or anything, but taking a cut from her like that was...close enough that it made me laugh, anyway. That said, for all of how "edgy" this show is supposed to be, there is a lot of stuff that I think is just not as brutal or exploitative as in real life, mostly because the adults in the show are just a bunch of jokes or are absent altogether and the kids sort of exist in their own little Lord of the Flies bubble. I mean, no, most of the time when you pass out at some guy's house while a bunch of freaks are there, nobody is going to pay $600 to keep you safe. Etc. Who knows what the future will bring, though.
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    S01.E02: Stuntin' Like My Daddy

    I think so, mostly based on how they acted after -- the way Tyler was looking at Nate, and how Nate was strutting around. Honestly, I was pretty shocked. I felt pretty terrible for Fezco in that. You could see him freaking the fuck out and nobody was listening to him, he couldn't stop anything. Thank god he had enough money to pay off the supplier. And fuck Rue for getting in that position in the first place. She's so naive, it's exhausting. And then Fezco's kid brother or cousin or nephew or whatever was eyeing the dealer's gun, like he was going to start a shootout? Wtf. Why?! That little kid is looney tunes. And on CDs, in a special little case? The whole thing is so weird. I dunno, I don't feel like his anger is really that justified. What his dad is doing is gross, but he's basically just any womanizer. I get why Nate doesn't like that, but it really has nothing to do with him, so *shrug* It seems to me that Nate seems to have a very black-and-white view of things, and since he doesn't want to be the victim, he's going to be the bully. Because of course the whole world is just victims and bullies, natch. But that just makes him a garden variety asshole, pushing people around all the time. And what's especially weird is that he himself never gets pushed around. So it just ends up seeming like a big ego trip, to me. I dunno, I think that Nate is a pretty dull character. But maybe he'll get in over his head and have to grow up a little or something.
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    Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

    Yes. I haven't had a miscarriage, but I imagine I'd feel the same way. It's reassuring and comforting to go through those rituals -- doing the hair, putting on the makeup -- especially with a friend. Joy was about to take very vulnerable, difficult photos. She probably needed that ritual to help gird her for them. Not everyone would feel that way, but it's not unusual. Of course, I'm not in Joy's head. But in my opinion, the reason Joy would do this is to express herself. Joy isn't a poet or a painter or a singer; these photos are the most eloquent way she can express what's happening and what she's feeling right now. Her feelings are bound to be incredibly intense, and the compulsion to express feelings like that can be incredibly strong. I don't think that's a bad thing or even generational; not everything can or should be stifled inside and left to fester. I think she's probably showing these pictures to the world for the same reason that a poet publishes poetry or a painter exhibits a painting or a musician pours herself into a song on stage. Yes, it's catharsis, but it's also just plain old emotional expression.
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    Josiah and Lauren: He Has To Marry Somebody

    I think that Josiah likes strong personalities. He used to have one himself! Lauren is a trip. I think she's got a lot of emotions going on and spilling out all over, but there's not really a good outlet for them in her world. If she were a brittle, sensitive, and theatrical college freshmen trying to create an adult identity for herself, she would probably be fine. That's perfectly healthy and normal, albeit annoying! But people like that don't do so well in stifling environments like this one. It seems like, usually, the first identity they pick isn't the best one for them, and they have to run through a few -- crashing and burning a few times even -- before they find themselves and a good outlet for all that emotion and energy. These two make me sad because I think they've been especially damaged by their environment (because it's such a bad mismatch for their personalities). And now that they're adults, instead of clawing their way out, they're digging in deeper. Which just makes them seem more damaged and hopeless. Honestly, I think that Lauren will be a pretty terrible mother. Incredibly intense and solipsistic. But that's why babies having babies is a bad thing! And I hate that their baby is basically being conceived as a ball and chain. What a burden this child is going to have.
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    Josiah and Lauren: He Has To Marry Somebody

    In this case, Josiah is probably under immense familial/religious/social pressure to "prove" his righteousness by being "blessed" with a child, so it's a complicated situation. He and Lauren are probably racked with fear right now that they haven't had a baby because they aren't right with God, that Lauren has failed to "save" Josiah from himself, that Josiah is still a sinner, etc. From what we've seen of this crowd, I think their childlessness is probably like a scarlet letter, so by making a public statement that basically declares Lauren a mother despite that apparent lack of children, I think he's probably trying to defend Lauren, their marriage, himself (like someone else said up-thread). I don't think that's the case for all of these couples, but I think it's the case for Josiah and Lauren in particular. Like, I don't think that anybody was thinking that Jinger wasn't right with God when she didn't get pregnant right away, etc, but it seems like Josiah has had different problems with his family than Jinger did and got married for different reasons. Of course, what do I know! This is just based on my intuition.
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    S14 E19: Jack in the Box

    I liked this episode, because there were so many creepy/unsettling scenes. The scene when Sam and Dean lure Jack in the box, of course. The scene when Sam asks Dean to talk about Mary, and Dean brushes him off and says "isn't that what we just did" (from memory -- may have gotten that quote slightly wrong). The scene when Jack mesmerizes all those churchgoers and curses their group leader to be "eaten by worms" (everything about that curse was horrifying). All-in-all, this was a legitimately scary episode, which I always appreciate from this show. I was very confused by Jack making angels out of people, too. The interaction between Jack and Duma was interesting to me in general, because Jack was completely obedient and seemed happy/relieved to be following her orders. The thing that I think is most interesting about angels is that they're made to be obedient in a way that humans aren't, and I wonder how that comes into play with Jack. He seemed really obedient in this episode in a way he hasn't been before, but maybe that's just because he's at loose ends. Anyway, that was clearly actual!Lucifer that was talking to Jack, and not some figment of Jack's imagination. There is no way that Jack would know Lucifer well enough to have him behave so true to character, and some of the things that Lucifer was saying just aren't things that I think would occur to Jack anyway. That said, I don't think that Lucifer is controlling Jack or even manipulating him that much -- he seems like he's just sort of harassing him. So I don't really know why he's there, aside from as a dramatic device to give Jack a conversation partner. Jack seems totally lacking in compassion/empathy now, which is a fairly new thing for him. Dunno how anyone can come back from that. I think that he (and the bit of Lucifer that's hitched a ride in him) will have to get sent to the Empty. I'm unspoiled, that's just apparently where angels go when they need to be locked up permanently, aka, killed. Anyhow, putting Jack in the box wasn't a bad idea, although how Sam and Dean did it was uncomfortable and creepy as hell (and interesting/fun to watch because of that hahaha). I don't buy that Jack would be able to bust out of the box so easily, either, because I would think that without a soul to supercharge his grace, Jack would be just at regular angel strength (if that). But whatever, this is how the show is playing it, so I'll roll with the punches. It's interesting that Sam and Dean have now "betrayed" Jack by telling him the exact same pack of lies that Jack wanted Mary to tell him (that everything would be OK, basically). I think it's possible that after Jack killed Nick, Lucifer possessed him and that possession was a factor in Mary getting killed. But at this point, after Jack's weird confession/apology about Mary's death being an accident, I don't think that Jack can be absolved. He openly accepted at least some responsibility for it and wasn't remorseful enough, so there ya go. You know, I had actually been thinking that at least some of why Jack was so upset about killing her was because he felt guilty, missed her, etc. But this episode made it clear that he really didn't feel any of that. He just wanted to be back in Sam and Dean's good graces, he apparently didn't care about Mary in her own right at all? That's pretty chilling. Honestly, I thought Cas was the most relatable (to me personally) out of the characters in this episode, though. I mean, he took Mary's death seriously, but he couldn't shut off his love for Jack like a light switch. I think that all their reactions were true to character and made sense, but I thought Cas was pretty sympathetic in this one. WTF was up with that bizarrely well-attended wake at the beginning, though? And Bobby's entrance with the ax-throwing and the guitar riff? LOL terrible. Also, just not the right tone for the rest of the episode at all. It makes me laugh thinking back on it.
  7. rue721

    Jill & Derick Dullard: Counting On (Donations)

    Wow, those Bible verses scribbled all over the walls creep me out. Very spooky.
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    Supernatural Ending

    I'm sad about it. I think it's probably the best choice and not a total surprise. But still, sad. It does seem like the end of an era. So many memories of watching and sharing this show over the years.
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    S14.E16: Don't Go in the Woods

    Well, I can tell the bunker is not anywhere near the South, because if it were, once Jack was healing people with his bare hands, at least one of those teens would have been praying and trying to get him to come to their church youth group. Dude is either possessed or the messiah, so either way, it works, right? hahaha
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    Spoilers With Speculation

    Oh, and another reason that I think that Jack will sacrifice himself somehow...he's supposed to be doing what the Winchesters do, right? And that's practically all the Winchesters do. The men in that family have never met a survival instinct they haven't utterly ignored in favor of martyrdom.
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    Spoilers With Speculation

    I think probably Jack will be asked to be put out of his misery, so he can go to Heaven. Either the other characters will be like, "but you still have a wisp of a soul, Jack," and Jack will be like, "so send me to Heaven now, before I lose it." Or the other characters will be like, "you don't have a soul anymore, Jack, you're just an angel," and Jack will be like, "so send me to Heaven so I can keep the lights on up there." (My money is on the first option, though). And Dean will kill him because he promised back in the day that if Jack needed killing, he'd take care of it. And then Dean will sit alone in the woods, weeping, as per Jensen's spoiler. I don't think anybody else is going to be put out of their misery and sent to Heaven a la the snake, because I doubt anybody aside from Jack even thinks of going to Heaven as a good thing at this point, it's basically Charming Acres writ large. My other spec is that, soon after arriving there, Jack will realize that Heaven is crappy for some reason (not enough angels, or Lucifer's there, or something) and will realize that he needs to get back to earth URGENTLY to get help fighting XYZ rando danger. And that'll lead to our season-ending cliff-hanger in some way or another.
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    S14.E15: Peace of Mind

    Probably most people wouldn't -- I think that was kind of the point. The whole place was built on oppression (psychic/psycho Mayor) and repression (Sam and the townspeople). I liked the idea of a town living in a delusion, and that the psychic was just some random mostly-human monster. That felt like a throwback kind of MoTW idea, especially how it was meant to tie in with Sam's state of mind, and I wish the show would go back to doing more of that. It was also fun how the town had such a sense of place. That also felt like a bit of a throwback to earlier days of the show, in a good way. And usually Cas is boring to me, but I liked him in this episode. Like when he matter-of-factly asked the clerk, "Scanners I, II, or III?" LOL who the hell has even seen Scanners? I've seen a lot of movies in my time and I didn't know about that series at all. What didn't work for me was that climax when Cas and Sam fought and Cas made Sam come to his senses. Cas's arguments just didn't seem that moving, and I was kind of surprised that Dreamworld!Sam would even be up for randomly stabbing people to death in the diner anyway. Like really, I would have been like, "You're not a murderer! You're not a puppet!" Not "Sure you were a failure as a leader, blah blah blah." Seemed like a weird (and unpersuasive) tact for Cas to take. I also wasn't feeling Cas and Sam's chemistry this episode. I actually usually like them together, but for whatever reason it wasn't quite gelling. Dean and Jack's scenes were incredibly awkward, and sometimes that was actually pretty funny but sometimes, eh. They did seem to drag. The scene when Donatello tries and fails to impart some soulless wisdom onto Jack especially should have been more interesting than it was -- nothing was *wrong* per se, but it just seemed so drab. Also, Donatello is just such a tragic figure to me, and he's an interesting character in general, so I feel like he was kind of weirdly wasted in this episode. I agree that he's more interesting than Jack, so I would have been more interested in a story about Donatello that maybe also led to Jack learning something or led to everybody else also getting insight into Jack or something like that. But really, the one of the few spinoffs of SPN that I would legitimately be interested in would be the adventures of the prophets, especially Kevin (and/or AU!Kevin) and Donatello, because I do find being a prophet really tragic and difficult and interesting in the show's universe. So maybe that's just me. Otherwise, some of Dean's "comedy bits" were pretty funny. I laughed when he opened the carton of leftover Chinese food and found mice inside, but tried to play it cool. And when he made some weird face to himself in the car after yet another incredibly awkward conversation with Jack. It was kind of funny to me that Dean was finding his interactions with Jack as awkward as everyone in the audience must have. I did find that Dean was written really oddly in this episode, though. So upbeat and childlike? I mean, not that he did anything that out of character, it just all had an odd tone. And I thought that it was genuinely disturbing when Jack put the snake "out of its misery" by turning it to dust in his hands. What was creepy is that he wasn't being malicious at all, but it was still just such an inhuman thing to do. I think part of the point of Dean being grossed out and creeped out by everything was to show how cold and "alien" Jack was acting in comparison, but it was too ham-handed and over the top to really work. Same thing with Dean constantly wanting to eat and Jack never wanting to eat. That said, the only joke that I actually disliked was Jack choosing the angel v. devil cake. The show played it up way too much and the joke wasn't clever enough to handle that kind of attention. Also, I wish that instead of devil's food cake, they had used Flaming Hot Cheetos or something. And maybe the "angel's food" could have been some sort of ambrosia pudding. To be fair, though, maybe my distaste is because I find those kind of packaged cakes gross. Like if I had been Jack, I would have been like, "PASS" on those choices, soul or no soul. Oh, and I was really excited for a minute near the end when it sounded like they were going to leave the bunker and go back on the road. But then, nope. Really too bad. I mean, honestly, Sam did have a point that the bunker has lots of terrible memories in it. This wasn't even the first massacre they've had there. Plus, I like the road trips and the motels and stuff, and I miss them.
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    Supernatural Media: I Observe, With My Eyes

    Not sure where to put this, but thought this was a sweet story and a fun thread:
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    Small Talk: The Impala

    Speaking of theme parks -- is anyone watching Deadly Class? I'm trying to watch the pilot right now. I cannot with the school being called Kings Dominion. I mean, maybe it's a joke, but so far, the show is taking itself EXTREMELY seriously, so I feel like it's maybe just a goofy coincidence. Either way, makes me laugh.
  15. I think burning off the soul is a cheesy metaphor for Jack "losing his innocence" and becoming an adult.
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