S06.E11: Saturday in the Park

[Empress1]

3 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

And Kate, since it’s the house you live in you call Toby and say, “Hey, let’s call a plumber so you don’t have to worry about it on your weekend here. Do you have one or want me to get a name from Gregory?”  Not hard.

I don't even know why she has to involve Toby at all. "Oh shit, the ceiling is leaking." [Googles plumbers or asks Gregory] "Hello plumber, we have a leak." That's it! Maybe mention it to Toby after the fact - "the ceiling was leaking again, I called the plumber, he'll be here on [date]." Take some initiative - and this is really a small thing. Calling a plumber is basic. She was a personal assistant, I'm sure she's called a plumber before, and even if she hasn't ... basic. Pick a plumber, call them, pay them when they leave.

[CdrJanny]

4 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Right.  They should have been punished.  What if the house had caught on fire?  Even if the kids were able to get out, the babysitter was trapped.

That's okay - the babysitter wasn't a Pearson.  Doesn't matter if something bad happened to her.

[stonehaven]

I really am over the drawn out divorce plot line and the insertion of Randall and Kevin into their fight was over the top bad. Normal people wouldn't do that. They'd look at each other, get in the car and go for ice cream.

If only Randall had speechified, their union might have been saved. Did we get a Pearson speech tonight?

I was yelling at Toby to run. The Ka-Toby part of the show has been my least favorite over the years anyway. 

Still,Rebecca and Miguel are why I keep watching. Two sensible adults who know how to handle things...and Rebecca really being the one to find Jack is awesome.

As someone who is NOT into kids whatsoever, Little Jack was cute...and that's a lot for me to notice...

[Empress1]

5 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. Oh, maybe you are really asking.

OK - so if she couldn't do the manual labor, couldn't she have taken Jack while Toby did it instead of nagging Toby? This ... I don't know, learned helplessness thing she has going on is really annoying. 

[Katie111]

The Pearson kids were told from a young age that they can do no wrong.  It’s her favorite anniversary when her kids lock a baysitter in a closet for an hour?  WTF?  That’s not your kids looking out for each other, that’s your kids acting like brats.   Also thought it was weird that it was their first date night since the kids were born.  
 

When does Jack become an alcoholic?  I thought it was when the kids were young but he was drinking a beer at dinner so he was not in recovery at that time. 
 

I get blaming each other in the moment, I think most couples do that, but Toby couldn’t do one thing right in this episode. (In Kates mind).  I agree when he said “do you even want me in LA?”.  

[ams1001]

4 minutes ago, Katie111 said:

When does Jack become an alcoholic?  I thought it was when the kids were young but he was drinking a beer at dinner so he was not in recovery at that time. 

I think they were in the 8-10 age range when that storyline was happening...?

[nasir jones]

I think I would’ve been okay with Toby putting his foot in Kevin’s ass on the front lawn. Kate doesn’t need protecting. 

[SunnyBeBe]

The more they try to make siding with Kate a virtue, the less I’m impressed.  When your toddler complains of their parents always fighting, you might have a problem.  I’m not seeing communication as the issue. They both put it out there very clearly. They need to learn some manners and restraint to shut up and show some grace.  I agree with Toby for the most part, but he lets Kate push his buttons.   It’s pointless.  All the arguments, insults, smart remarks don’t count for a thing.  Save your breath and figure out if you can really live with the other person.  Kate cannot be happy…..I hope Toby can, when he gets away from her.   

[CdrJanny]

9 minutes ago, Katie111 said:

When does Jack become an alcoholic?  I thought it was when the kids were young but he was drinking a beer at dinner so he was not in recovery at that time.

Well, Jack got shit-faced while playing golf with Rebecca's father and his friends when they were dating.  And he did warm a lot of barstools before he met Rebecca.

And, I'm not a doctor or substance abuse counselor, but  I think alcoholics are born that way, they don't "become" alcoholics.

[Eureka]

Meanwhile, are they going to devote any time to Kate’s new relationship with PMJ that we have seen ends up in marriage? Or will we ever get the how Rebecca and Miguel reconnected story?

[ams1001]

In case anyone else was wondering...

Fluffy Duck: Fluffy duck is the name of two different cocktails, both using advocaat as a common ingredient. One cocktail is a smooth, creamy drink based on white rum, and the other is a gin-based highball. Guessing Rebecca's was the first one (mostly because of the glass it appeared to be served in). 🦆

Dirty Banana: Popular on many Caribbean islands, the classic dirty banana cocktail combines rum, Kahlúa, or another coffee-flavored liqueur along with banana-flavored liqueur in an icy, creamy shake. 🍌

[hookedontv]

31 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

My favorite moment was Randall slapping the phone from Kevin’s hand.

Yes! I forgot about that. Then when Kevin told Randall he gets why Randall’s kids didn’t want to come out. And Randall said “Love you too Kevin” and Kevin smiled. 
 

Beth had a couple “under her breath” comments that made me chuckle, she said something when Randall and Kate were hugging. 

[Evie]

Little Jack is adorable.

Both Kate and Toby made mistakes. Both were distracted by the leak and the constant sniping. I do think Kate had a point about Toby never fully accepting Jack's blindness. Obviously Kate's resentment about that has been simmering for awhile.

I'm Team Toby as far as her brothers, well mainly Kevin, inserting themselves in the fight. Toby wasn't being threatening. They both were blaming each other. Toby's had to put up with a lot from the Pearson's. 

The parallel between Randall and Kevin "protecting" Kate as kids and "protecting" her from Toby really didn't work. They should have been punished as kids for that stunt. It was not heartwarming. 

I did like the Randall and Kevin scenes. 

Madison and Elijah are moving fast, especially since she has two babies and she started dating him not that long after the called off wedding. I'm guessing they will work out though. This seemed to be the episode that permanently closed the door on Madison and Kevin. 

 

 

 

Edited April 6, 2022 by Evie

[Quickbeam]

I missed the Toby Kate fight outside the house because Milwaukee decided I needed to know election results RIGHT now. A banner wouldn’t do…..Sigh. 
 

Anyhoo, that kid who played Jack was ten times adorable and great line readings too. I really appreciated the limited vision view they showed. We had to wear glasses in nursing school for a variety of visual impairments.

I never really loved Toby but I feel like the show has given him the bum’s rush. Here’s your hat, what’s your hurry….the actor deserved better. 

[Empress1]

8 minutes ago, Eureka said:

Meanwhile, are they going to devote any time to Kate’s new relationship with PMJ that we have seen ends up in marriage? Or will we ever get the how Rebecca and Miguel reconnected story?

Much more interested in the latter. I don’t care about Philip (or Kate’s remarriage, period).

Edited April 6, 2022 by Empress1

[Ohiopirate02]

7 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

In case anyone else was wondering...

Fluffy Duck: Fluffy duck is the name of two different cocktails, both using advocaat as a common ingredient. One cocktail is a smooth, creamy drink based on white rum, and the other is a gin-based highball. Guessing Rebecca's was the first one (mostly because of the glass it appeared to be served in). 🦆

Dirty Banana: Popular on many Caribbean islands, the classic dirty banana cocktail combines rum, Kahlúa, or another coffee-flavored liqueur along with banana-flavored liqueur in an icy, creamy shake. 🍌

And then she has that blue drink.  I feel for her poor digestive tract.

[ams1001]

2 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

And then she has that blue drink.  I feel for her poor digestive tract.

She basically ordered a dozen drinks...I assume she didn't actually drink that many but obviously she had plenty, before she even ate anything. (One of them would most likely be enough to prevent me driving. Two would have me resting my head on the table. Three would have me on the floor.)

[Ohiopirate02]

1 minute ago, ams1001 said:

She basically ordered a dozen drinks...I assume she didn't actually drink that many but obviously she had plenty, before she even ate anything. (One of them would most likely be enough to prevent me driving. Two would have me resting my head on the table. Three would have me on the floor.)

She sobered up way too quickly.  If I had that many drinks on an empty stomach, I would either be passed out on the couch or paying homage to the porcelain god.  I would not have made it in my bed with my kids still talking coherently.

[Tango64]

“Because that’s where Mommy and Daddy were happy.”  That broke me. 
And that scene with Toby looking at his little boy sleeping after, I totally would have climbed my big Toby-like ass in bed with him and held him all night. 

[Racj82]

1 hour ago, greekmom said:

Madison is moving way too fast with douche Elijiah. It's not going to work out.

Uh...how is he a douche?

Also, the proposal is the rapid time-line tv has a real problem. People are constantly getting engaged less than year into dating. People do that but you would think the norm was 3 to 6 months if you just followed tv.

 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

1 hour ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

1 hour ago, gonzosgirrl said:

Huh? Kate is the one in the house all week - she could have called a plumber at any time.                

She should have, but that would have upset Toby.  For as much as people complain about Kate being sensitive and flying off the handle over the smallest thing, Toby is the same way.  Kate calling a plumber would have had Toby going off on her about how she doesn't think he's man enough to do a simple home repair.  They had that fight last season.

Honestly, they both probably forgot about it once the leak stopped.

1 hour ago, CleoCaesar said:

I thought that was semi-clever of the show to illustrate how fluid our memories and perceptions are. Jack correctly remembers his accident happening on the day of the BBQ. Since he can't see the world around him, he might rely on other senses like smell and touch. He probably smelled the grilled meat and over time erroneously connected it/the smoker to his accident, when really they were unrelated.

Yes, smell would be very evocative to him.  Whenever he smells apples and pants together, he probably unconsciously touches his scar.

20 minutes ago, Quickbeam said:

Anyhoo, that kid who played Jack was ten times adorable and great line readings too. I really appreciated the limited vision view they showed. We had to wear glasses in nursing school for a variety of visual impairments.

I was very impressed with how they showed the world of light and shadows from Jack's point of view.

54 minutes ago, Crs97 said:

My favorite moment was Randall slapping the phone from Kevin’s hand.

Echoing last week, when Rebecca took Randall's phone so he wouldn't do something impulsive.

53 minutes ago, Gemma Violet said:

Right.  They should have been punished.  What if the house had caught on fire?  Even if the kids were able to get out, the babysitter was trapped.

How did she happen to have the phone with her in the bathroom?  Was she going to call Jack and Rebecca anyway to complain that the kids wouldn't go to sleep?

 

Edited April 6, 2022 by ItCouldBeWorse

[Racj82]

This show never learned from going too hard with the propping up of Jack. I know they eventually cracked that halo but it was a little too much with how great Jack was.

They are doing the same with Kate. Making her look so amazing. She can do no wrong. Even when she does, she's rarely held accountable. 

 

[txhorns79]

I do feel like the flashforward set up the Big Green Egg as playing a much more active role in the breakdown of the marriage and Jack's injury.  As it was, it's hard to see why future Jack sees such symbolism in it, given it really had little to do with anything aside from being generally present as events occurred. 

Wow, I really felt for Toby in that moment when he was standing in the yard after his fight with Kate, watching Kate being comforted by Kevin and Randall.  He seemed so alone.  It must suck coming last in your marriage behind your wife's siblings. 

55 minutes ago, Evie said:

 

The parallel between Randall and Kevin "protecting" Kate as kids and "protecting" her from Toby really didn't work. They should have been punished as kids for that stunt. It was not heartwarming. 

I was just like: "Congrats Rebecca, the only thing you are doing is setting up your kids to have unhealthy relationships as adults."

And I do wish Kate had accepted a little bit of the blame.  I thought Toby was right in that she's essentially taught Jack that an unlocked front door and Saturday mean going to the park.

 

[VanillaBear85]

What was that Rebecca doll?

Little Jack was adorable. 

[ItCouldBeWorse]

4 minutes ago, VanillaBear85 said:

What was that Rebecca doll?

It really looked like her!

[ECM1231]

14 minutes ago, txhorns79 said:

Wow, I really felt for Toby in that moment when he was standing in the yard after his fight with Kate, watching Kate being comforted by Kevin and Randall.  He seemed so alone.    It must suck coming last in your marriage behind your wife's siblings.

 

 

Totally agree. 

[LexieLily]

Next episode is supposed to be an episode of the chronological romance of Kate/Toby (a la the Randall/Beth episode a few seasons back) and the episode after that is called Day of the Wedding, where 'The Pearsons gather for Kate's wedding.' If they skip a shit-ton of steps to gloss over the divorce and rush into Kate and Phillip Mean Jerk, it's going to be such a narrative letdown and screwed-up way to tell the story.

[Triviatrish2]

1 hour ago, weightyghost said:

It really annoys me how much Randel and Kevin insert themselves into Kate and Toby's marriage. From the comments over Thanksgiving, to this fight. It's not like Toby has ever been physical, Kate doesn't need protecting against him. He must always feel ganged up on and it's not a good place to be in when you're trying to work something out. This show wants to paint it as a nice thing but it's so toxic to me. 

When I was a baby, I fell down the stairs in one of those rolly chairs because my dad left the gate open. My mom did blame my dad for it for awhile, but unlike these two, they are still married 30+ years later. Mistakes happen. Toby was being screamed at and he was rushing. These two need therapy. 

Also, this show and it's red herrings. Why the nonsense about the ~green egg when it had nothing to do with the scar? 

The brothers inserting themselves in Kate and Toby's "discussion", was out of line.  It is always the three against Toby, and when Toby went back into the house, Kate had that look, when she stood with her bothers.  Toby made a good point about that.  Kate was as much to blame for leaving the door unlocked, and if she weren't yapping at Toby, maybe it would have not happened.  

 

[30 Helens]

Both Kate and Toby were equally to blame. But Toby seemed to own his part more than Kate, so I’ll give him the edge. 

Still, I’m not sure that locking the gate (or the door) would have necessarily kept Jack in. Both of those locks were easily within his reach. The kid is blind, he’s not stupid.

Look at Alzheimer’s Lady solving the mystery! Even with diminished brain cells, she’s smarter than the rest of them.

Mind your own business, Kevin and Randall. You were not witnessing any abuse. Toby didn’t even call her a Chatty Cathy.

56 minutes ago, ams1001 said:

She basically ordered a dozen drinks...I assume she didn't actually drink that many but obviously she had plenty, before she even ate anything. (One of them would most likely be enough to prevent me driving. Two would have me resting my head on the table. Three would have me on the floor.)

“After three I’m under the table, after four I’m under my host.” Is that you, Dorothy Parker? 😛

Also, Rebecca had plenty to eat in those drinks. There was enough fruit on that glass to make a hat for Carmen Miranda. (Yeah, I’m old.)

[After7Only]

38 minutes ago, Racj82 said:

This show never learned from going too hard with the propping up of Jack. I know they eventually cracked that halo but it was a little too much with how great Jack was.

They are doing the same with Kate. Making her look so amazing. She can do no wrong. Even when she does, she's rarely held accountable. 

 

But are they though?….I’m not seeing a ton on Team Kate out there.   I think the show is showing how they both contributed to the marriage ending.   They may even be purposely putting more of the blame on Kate.   

[chocolatine]

Does Kate not understand that all the coddling from her family means they don't think she's able to handle herself? How insulting. *She* should have been the one to tell Kevin and Randall to butt out, not Toby.

I'm not a plumbing expert, but wouldn't there have been warning signs for several weeks before a full-on, ceiling-falling-down catastrophe? I know there had been the earlier leak that Toby's dad - who I thought Toby had said was a plumber or at least a contractor - had fixed. Did he not tell them to watch for water stains or any other signs that it was happening again?

Spoiler

I'm so disgusted by the preview. Toby apparently agrees to give up the SF job and take the one in LA - so that Kate can have everything exactly as she wants - and Kate is still all woe-is-me and "love wasn't enough?" She's insufferable. 

 

[Bumblebee84047]

1 hour ago, hookedontv said:

Beth had a couple “under her breath” comments that made me chuckle, 

Beth is a straight-up American hero, and nothing can convince me otherwise.

[bros402]

1. Little Jack saved this episode, he was amazingly adorable. If anyone needs to watch some adorable kids - check out Old Enough on Netflix - it's a Japanese reality show where toddlers get sent on errands (pick up dry cleaning, go buy something at the store, etc.)
2. I think the writers are trying to make me prefer Kate over Toby in this fight... but I see Toby's side in this. Why didn't Kate call a plumber once Toby got a job? That spot was still visible!
3. Damn, we only hear about Gregory, no Tim Omundson this time
4. Toby, you were taking that meat out way to late to smoke it - you'd want to start it around 9 AM to give it a nice low and slow smoking. Instead, you had it in a foil pan on a grill that was not smoking at all? This Is Us must not have anyone who is familiar with a smoker! What cut of meat was that, anyway? Toby didn't even marinate it or anything! Was there even a rub on it? Maybe it was pork shoulder and he was going to make some pulled pork... but still, you need some salt and pepper.

Edited April 6, 2022 by bros402

[Cheyanne11]

Kate acted like a self-righteous asshole in that front lawn fight.  Zero responsibility for leaving the front door unlocked and then sneering at Toby when he rightly asked if she even wanted him in LA.  Then—THEN—she lets Kevin butt in and fight her battles.  In conclusion, Kate sucks.  
 

Baby Jack, on the other hand, is frigging adorable.  

[bros402]

1 hour ago, VanillaBear85 said:

What was that Rebecca doll?

Miguel said it was a Puerto Rican tradition - a love doll that they had on their table at their wedding

[txhorns79]

12 minutes ago, chocolatine said:

 

I'm not a plumbing expert, but wouldn't there have been warning signs for several weeks before a full-on, ceiling-falling-down catastrophe? I know there had been the earlier leak that Toby's dad - who I thought Toby had said was a plumber or at least a contractor - had fixed. Did he not tell them to watch for water stains or any other signs that it was happening again?

Given how big the leak became, I would have expected to see evidence of water damage (like bubbling in the ceiling paint, or water spots appearing in the ceiling) in the time leading up to the event.  However, if you aren't looking for that kind of damage, it's possible to miss it.

7 minutes ago, Bumblebee84047 said:

Beth is a straight-up American hero, and nothing can convince me otherwise.

When Toby pointed out how much Beth had given up for Randall's flights of fancy, I did have a moment of "damn!"  Beth has really been on the giving end of that relationship for a long time with very little reciprocation from Randall. 

[chocolatine]

1 minute ago, txhorns79 said:

Given how big the leak became, I would have expected to see evidence of water damage (like bubbling in the ceiling paint, or water spots appearing in the ceiling) in the time leading up to the event.  However, if you aren't looking for that kind of damage, it's possible to miss it.

If they'd never had leaks before, the warning signs would have been easy to miss, but they did have one last season. Doesn't make sense to completely stop paying attention, especially if Toby's dad is not a licensed plumber.

[ItCouldBeWorse]

So Kevin is finally getting his own place! Now he'll have room for the kids when Madison and Elijah go on their honeymoon!

[UsernameFatigue]

#FreeToby 

That is all. 

Edited April 6, 2022 by UsernameFatigue

[movingtargetgal]

1 hour ago, chocolatine said:

Does Kate not understand that all the coddling from her family means they don't think she's able to handle herself? How insulting. *She* should have been the one to tell Kevin and Randall to butt out, not Toby.

Jack, Rebecca, Kevin and Randall have always coddled and enabled Kate.  The smirk on younger Kate's face while the big three explained why they locked the babysitter in the bathroom was the same smirk Kate had when her brothers intervened in her fight with Toby.  Kate is a spoiled brat who will never learn to stand on her own two feet.  

Edited April 6, 2022 by movingtargetgal

[Marley]

Kate is such a dumb bitch. Kevin and Randall needed to leave that argument on the lawn what a fucking joke. Team Toby lol and I hate saying stupid things like that. The kid big 3s were total brats this episode too. If I walked up on one of my siblings in argument with one of their spouses I would peace out of there. These characters suck. I’m supposed to admire them for this crap?

Toby is so horrible he went away to get a job to support his family. He should stay behind and live off stupid Kate’s part time job. Toby deserves better. The show trying to paint him as some shitty parent? Fuck off show. Oh poor Kate. Let’s pity that miserable bitch she’s just so innocent. I just dislike Kate so much.

Can Madison just got away. Who the fuck cares about her still.

The only good thing about this episode was drunk Rebecca and Kevin making that creepy doll call Kate bug.

Maybe Kate needs to go talk to her husband. Not be coddled by her brothers like usual.

Edited April 6, 2022 by Marley

[dbklmt]

1 hour ago, bros402 said:

2 hours ago, VanillaBear85 said:

What was that Rebecca doll?

Miguel said it was a Puerto Rican tradition - a love doll that they had on their table at their wedding

The Doll (La Muneca in Espanol) - At the traditional Puerto Rican reception it is customary for a doll, dressed similar to the bride, to be placed at the head of the main table or as a cake topper. The doll can be a Barbie or a larger doll.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Puerto+Rican+wedding+doll&sa=X&rlz=1C1SQJL_enUS862US862&sxsrf=APq-WBu1HXP2cJmbhysJMDfSisbIqYXaQg:1649225180690&tbm=isch&source=iu&ictx=1&vet=1&fir=oMzfxwi8quPcVM%2CuGL3y6AELLTCGM%2C_%3B38B7E8iwtKvZyM%2CTi-uXiEYanaqHM%2C_%3BMk3VwY0Fok7JxM%2CU3tVOHR7yuu50M%2C_%3BswgzLbrh2OLjJM%2COUoQ5-C_ya8BvM%2C_%3Byg42FaQe1E2NSM%2Cqb7Mh2Z2wB3CUM%2C_%3Bt4l1a-W-8h7UQM%2CCJN1v6RK94Iv5M%2C_%3Bnjq2lKmGvJY8vM%2CbRTWNRxYHrO4yM%2C_%3Bn7o58IecBd0lCM%2CTi-uXiEYanaqHM%2C_%3BaGqQC_w_-p3_wM%2Crwr8mlgm_f73SM%2C_%3BJceqaSA8kDk-qM%2CZBNiqwB_icaOAM%2C_%3Bo2y9G8_BULqADM%2CvAaPKSq9b_V3ZM%2C_%3BfA0tT6UfxAMxXM%2Cpib-w1M9ME06lM%2C_%3BE0GoXjH_LfGmEM%2CFGbukf-M2Y_d9M%2C_%3B2RllUoaQkyKo-M%2CrvXPpCgl_uG2lM%2C_%3BgH69IE_Ix-O0dM%2CnZDyqGB3uxq1VM%2C_&usg=AI4_-kQqJ4q0Ky6bEy1heuhW1Mx8uky5iQ&ved=2ahUKEwi8xLLI4v72AhWrD0QIHcgJC80Q9QF6BAgNEAE&biw=1920&bih=937&dpr=1#imgrc=oMzfxwi8quPcVM  

[UsernameFatigue]

No wonder the Big 3 turned into obnoxious adults, when they were rewarded for being obnoxious children, As others have pointed out, they should have been reprimanded for locking the babysitter in the bathroom, not rewarded. And even if Rebecca was too drunk to know that they put themselves and the babysitter in danger by doing so, Jack should have known and acted accordingly. And all because the babysitter called Kate a Chatty Cathy, and told Kevin to go to sleep. The horrors. 

I guess it is no coincidence that my favourite characters on this show are the non Pearsons - Miguel and Toby. And Beth in smaller doses. It seems to be a theme with many viewers that we really don't care for the Pearson family. I can't imagine that that has been the writers intent over 6 seasons. 

[VanillaBear85]

I did not expect the Rebecca doll to be so accurate. It was definitely Rebecca to me. 

 

[ProudMary]

Beth (looking at the ceiling): Bad spirits up in there!

I swear, Beth Pearson, the marvelous Susan Kelechi Watson, is the main reason I'm still watching this show.

Mandy Moore has never looked more beautiful than she did for their anniversary dinner.

Kate Pearson is an entitled bitch. I actually feel sorry for Chrissy Metz, who's proven herself to be a good actress, that the writers have saddled her with such an awful character to portray.

When the pre-school big three were giving their explanations as to why they ganged up on the poor babysitter, I said out loud, "Oh poor Toby. He's about to get triple-teamed."

I loved last week's episode,  for the first time in a long time. This week, I'm right back to hate watching. 😠

[Leeds]

 

3 hours ago, Eureka said:

Meanwhile, are they going to devote any time to Kate’s new relationship with PMJ that we have seen ends up in marriage? Or will we ever get the how Rebecca and Miguel reconnected story?

Who's PMJ?

3 hours ago, ItCouldBeWorse said:

Honestly, they both probably forgot about it once the leak stopped.

Yes, smell would be very evocative to him.  Whenever he smells apples and pants together, he probably unconsciously touches his scar.

I was very impressed with how they showed the world of light and shadows from Jack's point of view.

Echoing last week, when Rebecca took Randall's phone so he wouldn't do something impulsive.

How did she happen to have the phone with her in the bathroom?  Was she going to call Jack and Rebecca anyway to complain that the kids wouldn't go to sleep?

 

Apples and pants?  Am I missing something here?

 

 

[CarpeFelis]

58 minutes ago, Leeds said:

 

Who's PMJ?

Apples and pants?  Am I missing something here?

 

 

PMJ = Philip Mean Jerk

I also wondered why little Jack thought the meat in the Big Green Egg smelled like apples and pants! Apples I get, but pants?! Geez, how many times do the Pearsons wear their pants before washing them?

So Beth had Hailey during the anniversary party, but where the heck was Hailey when they went to the park at the beginning of the episode? (BTW I hate Chicago, probably because I was a teenager in the ‘70s when all their stuff was being way overplayed on the radio.)

I’ve never liked Toby, but it was incredibly unfair for the Big Three to gang up on him like that.

[kili]

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Toby didn’t secure the gate, but Kate was too busy nagging at him every second to lock the freaking door and taught Jack how to unlock it. So it’s her fault too.

Kate only taught Jack how to open the door, not unlock it. She seemed to be keeping the lock a secret.

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I agree with Kate in regards to the leak. As soon as their finances were better, Toby should have arranged a fix for the leaky roof.

Leaky pipe. I agree. Kate didn't get to see the repairs on the leaky pipe - she came home to a repaired kitchen. Toby called his Dad in to help with the finishing details. Toby made such a fuss about calling in a plumber and then did an amazing job by himself. Toby knew he'd done a half-assed fix for the pipe which is something Kate wouldn't know.  He should have called the plumber when he started earning the big bucks.

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Toby said "What are you doing here, in my house, in my marriage?" he was 100% correct. Kate and Kevin are codependent

One of Katoby's earliest fights when they first started dating was Toby complaining about how codependent Kate and Kevin were (and this when Kate was being paid to be Kevin's assistant so it was kind of her job to help Kevin out).  So, it's not like it's totally new information for Toby. It's one of the shaky foundations they built their marriage on and so it's not surprising that the codependency issues is still percolating along and now exploding. 

The seeds to this marriage break-up were sewn long ago. 

[Dowel Jones]

5 hours ago, nilyank said:

Of course, young Kate totally thinks it is perfectly right that her brothers locked their babysitter in

Channeling Calvin and Hobbes, and poor suffering Suzie....

Jack associates the entire collapse of Toby and Kate's marriage with the Big Green Egg because in all the panic and the trip to the hospital, no one thought to take the meat out.  So, several hours later...

[Gemma Violet]

Here's what Chris Sullivan (Toby) said about the Big Green Egg:

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In a previous flashforward, Jack Jr., now a well-known musician, has a smoker of his own and he said that the Big Green Egg was the symbol of the end of his parents' relationship. We find out how he got the scar on his face — it wasn't due to the smoker. What does he mean when he called it the symbol?

It was the centerpiece of the day. It was the symbol, it was supposed to be something that brought everyone together. There are these symbols in our lives, and we think that there are easy fixes. Or "if we can just go on this vacation." Or "if we can just get rid of this credit card debt." Whatever the thing is that we think is going to fix everything. Toby has this idea that he's constantly chasing this Jack Pearson ideal of grand gestures and unifying the family. It doesn't always work out that way. The Green Egg, although it is not personally responsible as the fine people at Green Egg Smokers are glad to find out, it represents a day when things really began to fall apart.

 

https://people.com/tv/this-is-us-chris-sullivan-on-kate-and-tobys-explosive-fight/