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No, I, Tonya wasn't a documentary. Margot Robbie played Tonya Harding and Alison Janney played her mother (which, whoo, chile, that was something. Talk about not having a loving mother; she makes Elektra look like Clair Huxtable). I saw it on a plane fairly recently so it should be floating around somewhere.

I would amend this slightly to say that when someone tells you they don't want to or can't be in a relationship with you, believe them - even if it means you have no romantic or sexual contact, or any contact with them at all. "I'd be a bad boyfriend." "I've sworn off relationships until after med school." Whatever it is, take them at their word. Don't probe further, don't ask why, just keep it moving. They are ALWAYS telling the truth. It took me a while but I learned to live by Maya Angelou's quote "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time" and once I did, life got easier. I've never understood why people want to be with people they have to talk into it - we should all be with people who choose us enthusiastically. I thought it was interesting that Ana finally got that Aaron didn't want to be with HER, not that he didn't want to be in a relationship period - had Zoe chosen him, he'd be in a relationship with her right now. If someone else comes along that he wants to commit to, he will commit to her. I've seen it a million times. Doesn't mean she's not worth committing to, doesn't mean their connection wasn't real, but he's not for her. Exactly. I suspect Nomi will look back on this once she's gotten some more distance and think "that was really fucked up." She was dead right when she called out Paige's hypocrisy.

Girl he has two ovens. The meals I could make in that kitchen ...

Also if Elizabeth (or any pet owner) wants to share flatware or have the dog kiss them in the mouth, that's her business, but Jamie (or other people they have over) doesn't need to share germs with HER dogs - hence why he wanted to throw out that glass. Yeah, I don't know anyone who would do the show because of the "show" aspect, but I definitely know people who, like we've heard from plenty of people on this show, just want to be married because they're tired of being single and it's hard to meet people. I bet if I asked around friends and acquaintances, I'd find someone who used a matchmaker (I think they're expensive though).

Agree, and I've also burned sage in a new place. Ideally I'd go there the day before a move-in armed with cleaning products. And my friend's mother told her before she married that the key to a functional marriage was separate bathrooms. I remember when my other friend's parents retired and downsized, the one caveat the mother had when they looked for a condo in the city was that she have her own bathroom because she was sick of sharing with her husband. They'd been married like 40 years so she clearly LIKES the guy, she just wants to do her ablutions away from him. I though Amber overreacted. It's not that deep. I sympathize with Amber about her abandonment issues - I can only imagine what it would be like to have your mother abandon you. But I would go completely insane with a man who wanted to be up under me all the time, so I find her clinginess unappealing. I remember I had a college friend and he and I and a bunch of other people were hanging out, including his girlfriend, who was very clingy. He remembered that he had to drop off a form and said he'd be right back and she IMMEDIATELY got up and said she'd go with him. This was a ten-minute errand, tops. She had severe abandonment issues (she and her sister were literally abandoned at birth and adopted) so he tried to be patient, but he ultimately broke up with her over her clinginess. The nepotism wouldn't bother me if Elizabeth and her father had healthy boundaries in the rest of their lives. Lots of people work in family businesses. But Elizabeth and her father CLEARLY have no boundaries anywhere, and Jamie is right to be concerned about it, and I would be really surprised if it hasn't come up in her relationships before. If her father is comfortable saying "Let's hope [your intended] doesn't have a small penis," that means she talks to him about her sex life, which I think is completely inappropriate. And Jamie saw how Dad freaked out when he mentioned lying down with her. That's fucked up, and it would give me tremendous pause. I'd be mad as hell if I were Greg. His house is nicer than those apartments! I might, yeah. Not a movie, but at work. I used to work in an exurb (which I hated, I'm a city person) and the company had a relationship with one of the garages nearby for routine maintenance - you could have your oil changed, etc. while you were at work and they'd pick up and drop off your car. And a quick Google search for "mobile car detailing" turns up lots of businesses, so it's an idea with something behind it. I don't know what Matt needs to get this going, and I have no idea if he has the acumen behind it, but I don't think it's an idea without merit. I could see this being particularly popular in LA, where people are a) into their cars and b) busy. I have no idea what car culture is like in Charlotte though.

YES. Out of the glass? Out of the glass that humans drink out of? No ma'am. I think Jamie said "we'll throw that away" as the dog was drinking out of the glass, and I am with him 100%. That Sonic product placement was blatant and annoying. The show has clearly crossed into capital-R Reality Show territory.

I'm a cook so I would geek out over Greg's two ovens too like Deonna did. My mother has two ovens and it's such a nice perk!

I went on a date with a guy a couple of months ago and he made a reference to getting up early (very early, like 5) and I said darkly "Oh no, are you a morning person?" I played it off like I was kidding but I was low-key not, because I am not a morning person. If I have to get up before, say, 6:15, I am going to be upset about it. (I get up at 6:30 now.)

Oh, Ana. I wasted a lot of time in a situationship in my 20s pretending I was cool with keeping it casual with someone when I wasn't. It played out the same way Ana and Aaron did (minus the drama - we just met at a party): we hung out and hooked up for a while, we had the "what are we doing?" talk and I said I wanted to be exclusive, he didn't, and we called it off ... for a few months, until he reached back out. In my defense, he was a fuckboi who messed with my head (it was one of those "we do everything people in a relationship do, including say I love you [which he said first] except call it a relationship" things, and when I would call him on it he'd be like "but we're not in a relationship!"), but still I should have cut it off and stuck with it as soon as he said he didn't want to commit. Ana is saving herself more pain by cutting it off for good. And Nomi (whose red lip was on point), this shit on the low is not what you want. Glad she called the professor on it. I wish somebody WOULD offer to make me a raisin margarita.

And the folks who were closest in age (Karen at 56, Charisse at 54, Gizelle at 48, Robyn at 40, as of this writing) are the ones who had relationships that pre-date the show. Ashley and Candiace and Monique are the ones who didn't have relationships with the other women or with each other before the show. (Ashley said she knew Candiace via the pageant world but I don't get the sense that they were that close.) I am not sure how Katie (who is 39 right now, today) fits into all this - I've forgotten if she had a relationship with any of the cast before the show. Yep. Remember when she got mad at Chris about holding her purse (he called her spoiled, which she is - like, I don't even think that's a matter of opinion) and she went to "that's why your dad hates you" or something? I've been a Top Chef watcher since day one. I could see him competing but I doubt he'd win. The talent pool on that show is very high (James Beard award-winners, etc.).

I'm with you. I've said here before that I think the budget/where to live conversation is the thing that most grounds these marriages as real marriages. Without it, they're essentially playing house and not joining their lives in any real way. Like, this is kind of just The Real World except the people happen to be married.

I keep thinking that that place isn't bad at all - it just needs to be fixed up. It's a decent size (small kitchen but that's par for the course in NYC) and has good bones. If it had some nice furniture (I think they eat off a card table), a few plants, and a coat of paint it would be lovely. Surely Ricky could throw a few bucks of his teaching income or Angel* could throw some modeling money toward a new couch? I've for sure seen worse. Elektra is kind of a loon, no? The contrast between her and Blanca really is striking. Blanca actually loves her kids; Elektra is a narcissist who only sees them as reflections of herself and doesn't care about them as people. (I assume she's still a dom, given that wad of cash she was flashing.) At least she admits it, I guess, but I'd rather be loved. I bump "Alright" TO THIS DAY. It's great to work out to. *I'm Black. I have natural hair. I know firsthand how fucking annoying it is when people touch it without permission. HOWEVER, whenever Angel is on screen I think "Her hair looks so soft!" I would NEVER just walk up and pet it - I've had that done to me, it sucks. But it looks so good! I would love to know her hair care regimen.

I thought he was a real dud. Handsome, but just a boring dude. Maybe he's just wooden on camera. He also seemed mad about the house he bought - "it's a lot of money for what I'm getting." Gorgeous scenery though. I need to get to the beach ASAP.

One nice moment was when Monique's kids said "Miss Candiace!" excitedly and hugged her when Candiace got there. (Candiace met Monique's youngest son pretty early on, according to IG, so I guess they made up.) I also enjoyed how Monique was like "They were all wrong!" and ran down the ways in which they were wrong at Candiace's dinner party. I agreed with her completely.

At the very least, a trim; her ends were raggedy. But I'd have lopped off a solid foot (it would still have been mid-back-length at that point).