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I guess I should have been focused on the kids in the tractor segment, but all I could think was "Why isn't Murphy there?" I am glad that Zach and Tori will no longer be on the show, because Murphy not being treated as a part of the family hurts my heart. That said, this did feel like a series finale, and I think it was a lovely one. Odd how the four were doing so well in their scenes together. Makes one wonder how much of the last few years was manufactured drama. Or is this manufactured chumminess in hopes of another season focused on the two couples? I think it is a great place to end the series, and wish everyone well. I am happy that Amy and Matt have found happiness with other people, and have come to like and appreciate Caryn (I've always liked Chris). I hope the two couples also do not dwell on what the kids may or may not do in the future with regards to family. I have seen too many friends bend over backwards to keep their kids happy to stay in their grandkids' lives. Take Caryn's advice - you can only be in control of what you do, no one else. I wish both couples many happy days and adventures ahead.

The series is basically the reporting of Toronto Star reporter Kevin Donovan. It could be shorter than 4 episodes, but also was quite interesting. Donovan took the Toronto Police Service to court several times to get access to information. One even ended up at the Supreme Court, and Donovan and the Star won that case. Donovan ends with saying that he has his opinion on who the murderer is, and that his opinion is shared by the TPS. It is pretty clear, without him saying it, that he thinks the murderer is Honey and Barry's son Jonothon. I think he is right.

I don't know how much of that type of interviewing might apply to Dateline. In 2021 NBC did an interview with Keith and Josh about doing their jobs during a pandemic. Josh said that they could definitely get good interviews by interviewing the various participants remotely, but he preferred to interview one on one where he could read someone's body language, etc. better. Keith also said he can sit down to interview someone without having ever met them, but feel like he knows them due to the prep work the team does with the interviewees beforehand. I also remember an interview with Andrea where she said that she started writing movie scripts as a way to fill time when she was travelling for her job, and had spare time while on a plane or in a hotel room. I also think many of the interviewers actually develop a bond with some of people they are interviewing, as they often interview them over multiple years. I remember a case where Keith happened to see someone he knew from a previous case driving on the Pacific Coast Highway. She recognized him and if I recall correctly, they pulled over and got caught up with each other. I think it lead to another episode, where Keith described their chance encounter.

If you get Crave TV, they did a 4 part show on the case last year called Billionaire Murders. Very interesting.....

I vaguely remember the cases, but was living in Vancouver at the time of the murders and they didn't get a lot of coverage there. What I find odd is that the case was solved in November of 2022, and I don't remember media about that either. I thought Dateline did a great job covering the murders, and thought for once it was a case that warranted a two hour episode. Medicine Crow, I would love Dateline to cover the murders of Barry and Honey Sherman. That is such a fascinating case, but they may not since it is still unsolved.

Matt really came off looking like an ass (more so than usual). When he was accusing Amy of ordering his workers around, I wondered how in the world she would come onto his property, gather his workers, and give them orders on what to do, all with Matt not knowing. Not likely. It totally made sense that she mentioned what needed to be done to Jacob, and he took it upon himself to do what he thought was needed. I also don't understand why Matt just didn't ask his workers where they put stuff? Or Caryn ask where the stuff for the basket was moved to? Easier to complain on camera like they are helpless on their own property, and act like the workers are going rogue. I loved Chris standing up for Amy in front on Matt. Seems like he maybe has finally seem Matt's MO, as in nothing is ever his fault. And if at all possible, it is Amy's fault. I was shocked to see Tori actually giving affection to poor Murphy this episode. Even the kids ignore the poor dog which is just bizarre to me. #FreeMurphy indeed.

It wasn't until late in the episode that they said that Jenelle was jealous of Billy Jean as she had a crush on Billy. Her jealousy went into overdrive when Billy Jean moved in with Billy and then had the baby. So IIRC there was never any online fight, only Jenelle making it up to get her parents and Jamie to do her bidding. The thing is, Jenelle was not bright, but the three she was trying to convince were even less bright than Jenelle. The emails that "Chris" sent were from her own account. How did her parents and Jamie think "Chris" was able to do that? And honestly, a CIA agent sent to protect a woman in Podunk USA from an online feud? OMFG!!

So even the article isn't clear as to where the two middle sisters were staying while their mother and two younger siblings were living with Jodi. The employee said that the girls sometimes did housework and chores at her residence. Since the older brother was 18 at the time, and the younger brother who was being abused was 12 I think, the middle sisters were somewhere between 13 and 17 years old? So were they on their own at the family house? Just bizarre all around, and that their living arrangement at the time never seems to have been clarified. Should that not have be added to the list of charges against their mother if they were left at the home alone? Mind you I guess they were better off there than with their mother......

I don't for a minute believe that Ruby regretted the horrific abuse she subjected her children to. She played the system, trying to get a lighter sentence. Did I miss it, or did they actually say who was looking after the middle aged children at the time the abuse was happening to the younger kids? The father was gone, Ruby moved to Jodi's with the two youngest, so who was looking after the middle kids? When the police went to the house where the family had originally lived, they then said the kids were at a neighbours. Did the neighbours take the kids in? So many people dropped the ball on this, including CPS and the police. Geez, even viewers of Ruby's site tried to bring attention to the care the kids were getting in 2020 by starting a petition. I don't understand why Ruby and Jodi were not charged with attempted murder. I guess it didn't fit the legal definition, but that is what it was.

I have just subscribed to Britbox, watched the first episodes of the current season and now am working my way through S12. (I have watched earlier seasons in previous years, love Vera). There was one glaring mistake in this episode, which is very unusual for this series. The coroner would have known right away when she did the DNA test on the scarf that the killer was a female. Of course Vera would have been able to rule out all the male suspects right away and the episode would have been half an hour long rather than an hour and a half. So of course that detail was not mentioned. But still a glaring error (or omission, as the case might be).

Thank you for the reminder of the names! You'd think that with both women being named Jenn, it would be easy to keep straight! I agree that wife Jenn was wording things carefully. I didn't buy her explanation that she thought he was in bed with her, and then over time questioned her memory of that night. Na Jenn, you lied (whether due to pressure or whatever) and then you eventually came clean.

I loved every minute of this telecast, except for the In Memoriam segment. Not only was it ruined by the dancers and too many people on the stage, all the busyness totally took away from the performance of the sublime Andre Bocelli and his son Mateo. All the segment needed was them, with the focus on the pictures of those who passed. It was an abomination that those who have passed, as well as the world renowned singer Bocelli were relegated to second fiddle.

I got the feeling that she may have thought that her marriage could be saved, and over the few years realized that it couldn't. Really she is lucky that she wasn't charged with obstruction, as that is what she was doing.

I was initially annoyed at the wife Michelle for giving her husband an alibi. But then when she talked about how harassing her inlaws were, and they showed the delusional parents I could see how she was pretty much tormented by both her husband and his family. It does make me wonder though, if there had been no Covid to delay the trail, if he would have gotten off as wife Michelle may have not have had a change of heart yet. I was really wishing that when Dennis was interviewing the parents and they showed the two pictures side by side, Dennis had said "It is obviously the same person". Though his face certainly said that. Not that I think it would have saved the guy, but I do wonder why girlfriend Jennifer was still in touch with her ex, right up to phoning him to find out who to request a wellness check. Isn't how one would do that common sense? Doesn't really seem like she was over the guy, despite supposedly breaking up with him because he wouldn't leave his wife. The one I feel sorry for is the daughter. I wonder if she sees her grandparents still? Seems like they would be claiming her father's innocence and likely badmouthing her mother. Glad though that they didn't really talk about her, and glad they didn't interview her.