JD and Abbie: Captured Before the Rapture

[xwordfanatik]

Very pretty cake.

[leighdear]

I will say that hands down, they had the BEST wedding exit of all the kids.  Jump into a plane & fly away?  Unique and very cool.  I hope the rest of their lives are equally non-Duggarlike. 

[LolaGeek]

21 hours ago, Lunera said:

JD and Abbie leaving on the plane:

 http://duggars.tumblr.com/post/180170767735/source-anonymous-sorry-about-the-quality-i-had

I'm not an aviation expert, and obviously they survived or I feel like we would have heard about it by now, but doesn't it seem kind of hazardous to have all those streamers and cans hanging from the back of the plane, especially a small one like that..?

[SMama]

There’s a video on FJ of them flying over the guests. The sign, streamers, etc. were removed.

Edited November 19, 2018 by SMama

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On 11/8/2018 at 10:58 AM, mythoughtis said:

Or the shoes didn’t fit or hurt or didn’t come in time or got left in Arkansas. Or the dress was too long without heels.  

Or Jim Bob wouldn't come off of $20 for Jana to get the flats like the other bridesmaids had.

On 11/14/2018 at 6:01 PM, cmr2014 said:

Jessa and Anna both looked like they dressed out of the hamper. I thought weddings were a BIG DEAL to these people. Exactly what occasion is special enough in their lives to put on a nice dress and comb their hair? I'm not going to cut them any slack for being cold, either. Did Jesus forget to remind them that an airplane hanger might be cold in November? The girl in the photos is dressed nicely, and so are all of the other young women she posed with except Jessa and Anna.

I think since Jessa and Anna weren't asked to be bridesmaids, they probably decided they didn't give a F and would show up looking like they didn't care because the wedding wasn't worthy of them caring since they weren't in the wedding party.  

[Lunera]

https://www.tlc.com/tv-shows/counting-on/full-episodes/john-david-abbies-wedding-part-1?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=sf202635638&utm_campaign=countingon&sf202635638=1

TLC posted the wedding online

[BitterApple]

JD and Abbie are so adorably dorky and sweet.

Interesting that she worked as a nurse's aid for two years prior to getting her LPN. If I'm not mistaken, several people here speculated it earlier. 

Mrs. Burnett in an appropriate Mother of the Bride dress was a shock to my system.

Michelle looked nice and JB appears to have lost some weight.

Lauren totally hates Si. 

I feel badly for Jana that the camera always seems to catch her looking sad, regretful or pissed off. 

[SMama]

I’m too lazy to rewatch the video, but did JB and MEchelle enter the church ahead of Abbie’s mom? Does it always have to be about them?

I must admit that it was sweet how JD approached their first kiss. Sadly they had to go over the no hand holding or kissing trope. 

IF it’s what she wants I truly hope Jana is next. When is she going to be pampered and given the respect she deserves? 

Abbie, you may like little old people, but your in laws are monsters. I truly hope you don’t end up saddled with them.

[GeeGolly]

Was Austin spotted near the chocolate fountain? You know, with a badge and handcuffs? Gotta catch the double dippers.

[GeeGolly]

Oh my, were the flower girls wearing the dress that Josie had on in that recent picture?

[awaken]

Haha,  just saw on Facebook that the wedding was posted and I had to laugh at this comment!  

“Lovely. Michelle always looks so pretty. Would love to borrow one of her Mother of the bride or groom dresses for when my time comes.”

😂😱🙄

Edited November 20, 2018 by awaken

[Jenilane6]

1 minute ago, awaken said:

Haha,  just sought on Facebook that the wedding was posted and I had to laugh at this comment!  

“Lovely. Michelle always looks so pretty. Would love to borrow one of her Mother of the bride or groom dresses for when my time comes.”

😂😱🙄

Because the wedding theme is The Wizard of Oz and I want to be the Tin Man.  ❤️

[Lunera]

John David: I will be faithful, keeping my eyes only for you.

Josh (probably): 

LOL

I thought the kiss was really sweet but the ring prank seemed kinda childish. 

Lauren has a nice singing voice, I noticed she wore the bridesmaids dress from her wedding. 

Why was Jessa sitting next to Jeremy instead of Ben?

[Sew Sumi]

Ben was on her other side. I think it was seen in the TLC photodump. Wherever the picture originated, I know I saw Ben.

[IndianPaintbrush]

I really liked the moment where Abbie's bridesmaids were ooo-ing and ahh-ing over her, and she replied with "Y'all are the gorgeous ones." That girl's got class.

[Barb23]

I thought the first kiss was kind of skeevy to watch.  It's one thing if he had just kissed one hand & then they had "the"  kiss. But we got what looked like him kissing his way up including kissing her bare shoulders that seemed sort of sensual & out of place considering their courting rules and that they were in church. 

Sorry I'm old & hope you all understand what I'm trying to say. I'm sure John was ready to jump her bones at that point but it just reminded me of them having an intimate moment  which I don't need to see or think about. 

[ginger90]

The clips showed a very nice wedding ceremony. This is the first I’ve seen of Abbie, other than pictures. She seems like a lovely person.  The only cringe for me was Jim Bob’s babble.

Thank you to the person who posted the link.

[BitterApple]

18 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

I thought the first kiss was kind of skeevy to watch.  It's one thing if he had just kissed one hand & then they had "the"  kiss. But we got what looked like him kissing his way up including kissing her bare shoulders that seemed sort of sensual & out of place considering their courting rules and that they were in church. 

Sorry I'm old & hope you all understand what I'm trying to say. I'm sure John was ready to jump her bones at that point but it just reminded me of them having an intimate moment  which I don't need to see or think about. 

Yeah, that definitely took an R-rated turn. I think if he had kissed her hands and then went for the big one it would've been sweet, but the way he was working up her arms and shoulders was a bit TMI. 

Lauren has a nice voice. 

Was anyone else surprised Austin was in the wedding party? And where were they hiding Smugs?

[Ijustwantsomechips]

56 minutes ago, Lunera said:

Why was Jessa sitting next to Jeremy instead of Ben?

I’ll give you three guesses.  You’ll never make me believe she doesn’t wish she’d waited and kept him for herself.  She seems like the type to always want to have what’s perceived to be the best.

[Fallacy]

I liked the kissing, but the vows were so full of fundie speak that I have little hope they will be any different than any other Duggar couple. At least they love each other very much on their wedding day. 

[cmr2014]

IT sounds like JB and J'chelle wrote John David's wedding vows for him.

[Spencer Hastings]

Lots of tight shots here to hide the unfilmable Duggars.  Hardly any shots of the groomsmen to hide Josh and unfortunate closeups of the audience to hide Jill and her idiot. 

I hate that I felt a little warm and fuzzy when JB walked by Jinger and lit up as he was walking down the aisle past her. It was a sweet moment that seemed very natural.

Abbie seems lovely. I like her humor and the way she interacts with those around her.  My mom works in a nursing home and loves her old people.  It’s nice that Abbie works with that population and seems to enjoy them, it’s truly a thankless job (for someone else, definitely not me!).

Edited November 21, 2018 by Spencer Hastings

[sixlets]

Abbie's mom is beautiful!  She chose an appropriate dress as mother-of-the-bride.  Michelle appeared to have taken the correct dosage of her meds that morning and looked nice.  The expression on Jana's face when the parents walked down the aisle was priceless.  She was over the entire thing within the first 5 minutes.  It takes a special person to work with the elderly and in nursing homes.  God bless her for doing it!

[mythoughtis]

4 hours ago, SMama said:

did JB and MEchelle enter the church ahead of Abbie’s mom? Does it always have to be about them?

Isn’t that how it’s usually done? Brides Mom is seated last. Usually out of respect, but also because she’s hanging out with the bride? 

[Portia]

5 hours ago, SMama said:

I’m too lazy to rewatch the video, but did JB and MEchelle enter the church ahead of Abbie’s mom? Does it always have to be about them?

 

18 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Isn’t that how it’s usually done? Brides Mom is seated last. Usually out of respect, but also because she’s hanging out with the bride? 

mythoughtis beat me to it by a couple of minutes. Yes, the MOB is the last to be seated as well as the first to be escorted out.  

[SMama]

Sorry, I’m a rube, have not done many weddings. 🤗

[SabineElisabeth]

I liked that neither John-David nor Abbie so much as mentioned "the first kiss" when asked what they were looking most forward to about getting married.  And when asked directly about it by a producer, John-David's answer made me think he was implying that the wedding night was a lot more on his radar than the first kiss LOL. Not sure if that's a product of them being more mature, just different personalities from the other couples, or what...but was refreshing nonetheless that a kiss wasn't at the forefront of things they were anticipating.

I wonder if Abbie is still working as a nurse now that they are married?

And I still can't find anything I find particularly redeeming about Lauren.  Her singing didn't suck, but I have yet to be able to say there's anything I really like about her.  And lots of things I quite dislike....

[GeeGolly]

54 minutes ago, mythoughtis said:

Isn’t that how it’s usually done? Brides Mom is seated last. Usually out of respect, but also because she’s hanging out with the bride? 

I agree the bride's parents are usually last but I think the timing was off a bit with the two sets of parents. They appeared to me to be entering at the same time. It seems someone rushed the entrance of Abbie's parents.

[Sew Sumi]

I'll go ahead and blame Laura.

[Temperance]

Chelsy Bontrager Maxwell has a new blog post up on her blog and she implies that she was at John and Abbie's wedding. 

[Barb23]

3 minutes ago, Temperance said:

Chelsy Bontrager Maxwell has a new blog post up on her blog and she implies that she was at John and Abbie's wedding. 

That makes sense.  Since the Bontragers appeared on 19 K&C years ago, that makes them good friends of the Duggars.  I remember JB couldn't pronounce the Bontragers name correctly to save his life.

[floridamom]

I noticed in the video when Abbie was walking up the aisle that her wedding gown was a bit too long. You could see her kicking it out of the way with every step she took. Great job, Miss Renee. I wonder if Abbie's seams and hems were hot glued together like the other wedding gown she made.

[graefin]

I just started watching this, but "little old people"? Fuck you, Abbie.

[Fallacy]

2 hours ago, graefin said:

I just started watching this, but "little old people"? Fuck you, Abbie.

I caught that too and equally hate when people like Abby suggest that the elderly  are cute, little helpless toys or children rather than self-actualized human beings worthy of respect and dignity. 

[lascuba]

3 hours ago, graefin said:

I just started watching this, but "little old people"? Fuck you, Abbie.

That was the point where I thought, "I KNEW she was a piece of shit just like the rest of them."

[Churchhoney]

6 minutes ago, lascuba said:

That was the point where I thought, "I KNEW she was a piece of shit just like the rest of them."

Well, she could just be unknowing and indoctrinated .... But of course she's now moved directly into the universal headquarters of indoctrination and lack of knowledge, so I suppose there's little hope that she'll see the light any time soon. 

[RebeccatheWriter]

The "little old people" comment got a raised eyebrow from me. But I will still hold off too much judgement for the moment. Abbie is in an actual career field and not a glamorous one at all. She did not seem very at ease in front of the camera and probably made the comment without regard for how it would sound. Given what she went through (probably) as an assistant and then as a nurse, I'm sure she's been around enough to know working in gerontology is not all sunshine, roses, and glitter. I also appreciate that despite her tone deaf words, she apparently chose that field rather than the norm of something like some of these girls say about wanting to "play with the babies all day." Time will tell though...

There were more positives for me about her than negative. She corrected John David a few times and disagreed with him. That's a step up from the stepford wife gazes and giggles of so many of these girls and women. She was kind and complimentary to her bridesmaids with the comment about how they all looked. Her comments to her father were not all that inappropriate. She clearly had her own opinions and didn't go with an overly Duggarfied wedding. I liked that she evidently didn't think she was going to get married and was seemingly okay with that (JD too). So many of these fundie girls are all about when not if they are going to land a man. 

Edited November 21, 2018 by RebeccatheWriter

[Christina87]

18 hours ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

I’ll give you three guesses.  You’ll never make me believe she doesn’t wish she’d waited and kept him for herself.  She seems like the type to always want to have what’s perceived to be the best.

I really feel that way too. I'm curious to see how that would have gone! I wonder if Jeremy would have been interested in her, as she does fit his requirements of being young, hot but modest, not worldly, not well educated, etc. However, beyond that, I'm sure he wouldn't be attracted to her ball busting personality, but would she have acted sweet and meek to reel him in? I could totally see her putting on an act where she pretends to be more like Jinger, and maybe even being able to keep it up after marriage for a while. I could also see her being fine with not having a baby for the first year, as I think she wishes she could have delayed longer with Bin, since she seemed to fall in love with parenting when she had her own kids. Those two are too similar IMO to get along, but it would be interesting to see how it would have worked out if she'd pretended for a while. I wonder if he would have squelched it when her true personality started to come out, or would have fought like cats and dogs. I could see him euphemistically referring to their marriage as "hard but passionate" or something like that lol!

[toodles]

20 hours ago, awaken said:

Haha,  just saw on Facebook that the wedding was posted and I had to laugh at this comment!  

“Lovely. Michelle always looks so pretty. Would love to borrow one of her Mother of the bride or groom dresses for when my time comes.”

😂😱🙄

Be nice.  Maybe this person is legally blind or something.  That's the only explanation I have.

[RebeccatheWriter]

33 minutes ago, toodles said:

Be nice.  Maybe this person is legally blind or something.  That's the only explanation I have.

Maybe it's a regional thing, but "when my time comes" is something people around here say when they refer to their death. So my immediate reaction to that was that she wanted to be buried in one of Michelle's dresses. 

[PikaScrewChu]

19 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Lots of tight shots here to hide the unfilmable Duggars.  Hardly any shots of the groomsmen to hide Josh and unfortunate closeups of the audience to hide Jill and her idiot.

Should have just re-cast Josh, Jilly Muffin, and Dullard. Wouldn't be that hard to memorize lines. They say the same damn thing over and over again anyway.

[Loves2Dance]

On 11/7/2018 at 9:38 AM, momofsquid said:

I'm finding a disconnect regarding the Duggars' interpretation of hospitality versus their promotion of the traditional family lifestyle. My mother was born in 1929 and grew up in the middle of nowhere but she was a huge proponent of doing things Properly. For the most part I'm sure she would have been a huge fan of the Duggars' values but she would roll over in her grave if she saw how they treat guests. Mom financed our wedding and insisted on an open bar and full sit-down meal. To her, that is how a wedding is done, end of conversation. You limit your guest list to the number of people you're able to treat like royalty. I think we had about 70 because that's how many we could feed and accommodate in a nice little ballroom. Given the way the Duggars claim to embrace traditional values, I would have expected them to be on the same page as my mother. Old-fashioned hospitality, ya know? I guess it shows how they pick and choose which bits of an ideology suit their selfish little lives.

But, if they narrow down the amount of guests, then that limits their ability to grift. And let's be real, they really love those gifts. 

Also, could you imagine the scandals that would play out in their circles if someone was snubbed from one of the weddings. When you have so many circles of friends and those circles are massive---who decides who come? What if the Bates don't get invited? What gossip will that spur on? 

To be honest, I think the Duggars should look at the Royals as examples. Have you insanity wedding with 1200 people and do a lite reception after with juice and cake. Have that done by Noon-1 PM. Let the groom and bride go off and enjoy some time together, change clothes and then do an evening reception with the grooms family, the brides family, the wedding party and some of their closest friends (people who they actually interact more than once or twice a year at a meet n greet or conference) and do an evening reception. (Holy run on sentence, I apologize but I'm too lazy to fix). That reception could be hosted at a nicer restaurant or a small ballroom with catering and some nice wholesome music. The bride and groom could meet with those closest to them and have a nice evening before leaving on their honeymoon. 

[QuinnInND]

On 11/19/2018 at 3:50 PM, LolaGeek said:

I'm not an aviation expert, and obviously they survived or I feel like we would have heard about it by now, but doesn't it seem kind of hazardous to have all those streamers and cans hanging from the back of the plane, especially a small one like that..?

No. Think about the planes that carry banners behind them.  But all that garbage is dangerous for other planes.  All I could think of was FOD (Foreign Objects & Debris) all over the runway and taxiway.  Anything that flies off, and lands on the ground could be run over or sucked into a jets engine. Pretty stupid, but it's the Duggars. So it's expected. Those banners planes drag are securely attached. Unlike the cans. My Air Force pilot husband just shook his head. And he facepalmed. 

[Barb23]

I was watching one of my mystery shows & it was mentioned the couple involved had gotten married at that glass chapel church in the Ozarks. They cut to a picture of it.  This was the one where Bennessa got engaged but is much too small for a Duggar size wedding since I think it holds about a 100 people.  I know Jessa nixed the idea to get married there because of size when Grandma Mary suggested it.

I love that church & wish one of the Dugaloos would break tradition & get married there.  They could have the selected 100 people for the actual wedding & then a big reception for the masses.at Cross Church hall/parking lot.

BTW, did anyone else notice in the wedding video that JB had to make it all about him & Mechelle when him & JD were remembering the spot at the church where JD met Abbie?  JB said something like "me & Momma were over there signing books when you saw Abbie....."  Since their meeting involved JB & Mechelle, JB will never let JD & Abbie forget it.

I wonder how much JB had to pay the minister to make the comment about JD & Abbie having a large number of kids. 

[Churchhoney]

4 hours ago, Barb23 said:

I was watching one of my mystery shows & it was mentioned the couple involved had gotten married at that glass chapel church in the Ozarks. They cut to a picture of it.  This was the one where Bennessa got engaged but is much too small for a Duggar size wedding since I think it holds about a 100 people.  I know Jessa nixed the idea to get married there because of size when Grandma Mary suggested it.

I love that church & wish one of the Dugaloos would break tradition & get married there.  They could have the selected 100 people for the actual wedding & then a big reception for the masses.at Cross Church hall/parking lot.

BTW, did anyone else notice in the wedding video that JB had to make it all about him & Mechelle when him & JD were remembering the spot at the church where JD met Abbie?  JB said something like "me & Momma were over there signing books when you saw Abbie....."  Since their meeting involved JB & Mechelle, JB will never let JD & Abbie forget it.

I wonder how much JB had to pay the minister to make the comment about JD & Abbie having a large number of kids. 

Well, no matter how much he had to fork over, it was certainly worth it. He and Meeechelle must be panicking. How the heck will they get their DUE reward of the 200 grandbabies (with many Godly Grandmama and Grandpapa OTY honors surely to follow!) the way those worthless girls are slacking off? Only two grandbabies apiece from Jill and Jessa! After all this time! JD and Abbie need to get cracking. 

Edited November 22, 2018 by Churchhoney

[Albanyguy]

40 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

How the heck will they get their DUE reward of the 200 grandbabies (with many Godly Grandmama and Grandpapa OTY honors surely to follow!) the way those worthless girls are slacking off? Only two grandbabies apiece from Jill and Jessa! After all this time! JD and Abbie need to get cracking. 

Ironically, the only ones who are stepping up and mass-producing grandkids are the very ones who shouldn't be bringing new kids into their mess of a personal life...Josh and Anna.

[lascuba]

Finally finished watching the ceremony (I find wedding ceremonies so boring, especially Christian ones since I've seen so many, so I had to watch in pieces), and they didn't run out of the church! That kind of makes them my favorite by default. 

And while I had read about the first kiss and thought it sounded corny, it actually came off really well when I saw it. I liked that he seemed to be mocking the way the his family and TLC have made such a big deal of the first kiss that most of his siblings made ridiculous spectacles of themselves over it. 

[louannems]

There was a brief glimpse of the mothers' of the bride and groom starting to walk down the aisle.  Mother of the bride was standing tall and straight while Michelle was really hunched over, bending forward at the waist.

I'm only 61, but I have a really degenerate lumbar spine and I walk like that first thing in the morning, and after sitting.  Poor Michelle must be really messed up from too many pregnancies.

[flyingdi]

So that's what a Duggar in love looks like?  Looks good on him.

[PikaScrewChu]

5 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Well, no matter how much he had to fork over, it was certainly worth it. He and Meeechelle must be panicking. How the heck will they get their DUE reward of the 200 grandbabies (with many Godly Grandmama and Grandpapa OTY honors surely to follow!) the way those worthless girls are slacking off? Only two grandbabies apiece from Jill and Jessa! After all this time! JD and Abbie need to get cracking. 

Duggar data is still predicting 262 grandchildren for JB and Michelle. Let's see how it pans out because the rest don't seem to be in any hurry to have more with the exception of the Smuggars.