Tara Ariano October 4, 2017 Share October 4, 2017 Quote Grace is shocked to find that the emergency contact called by her doctor's office is ex-husband Leo, not Will; Jack takes on a new job he never expected to love; and Karen befriends a 12-year-old girl in the Bronx. Link to comment
Primetimer October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 Grace's emergency biopsy (not something that happens) leads to an awkward reunion with Leo. View the full article Link to comment
ExplainItAgain October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 Could have done without the Leo stuff but the jokes are still funny. 2 Link to comment
mtlchick October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I love Harry, but I REALLY hope that is the last of Leo. I liked that Karen had a more human moment in her own Karen way. 6 Link to comment
TheGreenKnight October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I've always disliked Leo, but I liked him as an ex much more than a love interest. Watching them argue was pretty funny, and it's 100% believable that Grace would end up divorced because of his personality and her own issues combined. Jack being born from C-section was clever/hilarious. I enjoyed seeing the sperm bank nurse again. 18 Link to comment
Popular Post MyAimIsTrue October 13, 2017 Popular Post Share October 13, 2017 While boozy bitchy Karen is what I like best her scenes with the young girl were great, especially the cute tap on the nose at the end. 26 Link to comment
swimmyfish October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I felt like there was something off in the timing of this episode. Not that I love exposition, but it seemed like the set-up for every plot was clumsily rushed through so they could get to what ended up feeling like very manufactured situations. A lot of the jokes were good, but they didn't land as strongly as they could have, IMO. Partly because it also seemed like the audience was laughing in all the wrong places? I wonder if they had to re-cut this a few extra times before it finally aired. As for Leo - I mean, who cares? I like Harry Connick Jr., but it felt like they knew he was available and decided to make room for him, rather than that they'd had a real compelling need to tell a Leo story. It worries me for Vince's return; I thought he was great, and I am afraid what they'll do with him this time around. Favorite joke: Jack checking his neck before deciding not to eat the cookie. Sean Hayes played that really well. I would've liked to see Will at the Princess Di exhibit. I don't feel like we got enough Will this episode. 3 Link to comment
Maverick October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 Yeah, the editing was all kinds of wonky in this episode. It was mot noticeable in the Karen's plot. I'm not a fan of Leo, but it was worth it to have him back just for that elevator scene. Grace's horribly over-the-top mocking of Leo's accent as Leo calmly corrects her ill-use of Louisiana terms was gold. 12 Link to comment
emma675 October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I loved this one; I cracked up during multiple scenes, which didn't happen in the first two eps. I would have loved more Will, but his scenes with Grace and Jack and Karen were great. I feel like the show finally settled in and hit its stride here. 4 Link to comment
Adultosaurus October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 HC saved this for me, to be honest. I'm not feeling this entire reboot yet. 1 Link to comment
threebluestars October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I've been wondering if there were less commercials when the show was in its first run, because the timing does seem off, but more with the actual scene times. I'm wondering if they're adjusting to different show time lengths due to more commercials. Link to comment
jumper sage October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 Are we ever going to see Elliot? I liked him and thought he brought out a nice balance for Jack. 5 Link to comment
SanDiegoInExile October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, jumper sage said: Are we ever going to see Elliot? I liked him and thought he brought out a nice balance for Jack. You are 7 days too early. S09.E04: Grandpa Jack 2017.10.19 Edited October 13, 2017 by SanDiegoInExile 4 Link to comment
Texasmom1970 October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I was never a fan of his character on this show. I must say thought Harry Connick Jr. is looking good though! 4 Link to comment
Mabinogia October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 The fact that 11 years have passed and the characters are all exactly the same is just sad. I was really looking forward to the return of this show as it was one of my all time favorites, but watching these new eps has felt like watching reruns. The jokes are the same, the stories are the same the characters are the same. It's like going back to visit an old friend and finding out they are still living their high school days though they are way past it. 9 Link to comment
Annber03 October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 12 hours ago, MyAimIsTrue said: While boozy bitchy Karen is what I like best her scenes with the young girl were great, especially the cute tap on the nose at the end. I liked that, too. And I liked Jack teaching the kids. 12 hours ago, swimmyfish said: It worries me for Vince's return; I thought he was great, and I am afraid what they'll do with him this time around. Yeah, I hope things work out better with those two than they did with Grace and Leo. I'm neutral on Leo, myself, but I did like that he and Grace aired out a few lingering issues. 2 Link to comment
Ubiquitous October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Mabinogia said: The fact that 11 years have passed and the characters are all exactly the same is just sad. I was really looking forward to the return of this show as it was one of my all time favorites, but watching these new eps has felt like watching reruns. The jokes are the same, the stories are the same the characters are the same. It was like that for me about halfway thru the 2nd season, once I realized I'd been watching new eps. 2 Link to comment
Blakeston October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 14 hours ago, PreviouslyTV said: Grace's emergency biopsy (not something that happens) leads to an awkward reunion with Leo. View the full article I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Grace's medical situation was just bizarre. What procedure did they put her under for, exactly? It seemed like she had no idea there was any issue with her breast until she came out of anesthesia. 6 Link to comment
Duke2801 October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I didn't laugh out loud as much as the previous episode, but I still enjoyed it. Leo in the elevator scene is the most I've ever liked him. The "Platinum Gay" joke was pretty hilarious, too. So glad to see that Eliot will be making an appearance; I had been wondering about that! 3 Link to comment
iMonrey October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I liked this one much better than the previous two and it felt more like old-school W&G. I loved the elevator scene with Grace mocking Leo's accent and then her calm demeanor telling him she doesn't need anyone, only to turn around and walk into Will's apartment and break down into a sobbing child. That really felt like classic W&G. Also him picking something off her face and her sucking it off his finger. Ewwww but LOL. However, I always felt like attempts to humanize Karen ring false. She's just too much of a cartoon character to be taken seriously, ever. And did I miss something? Why was Jack at that theater (or whatever it was) to begin with? 7 Link to comment
MyAimIsTrue October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 11 minutes ago, iMonrey said: And did I miss something? Why was Jack at that theater (or whatever it was) to begin with? He thought he was there for an acting role or audition when it fact it was to teach drama to kids in an after school program (Boys and Girls Club, I believe.) 1 Link to comment
Whimsy October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Blakeston said: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Grace's medical situation was just bizarre. What procedure did they put her under for, exactly? It seemed like she had no idea there was any issue with her breast until she came out of anesthesia. That was beyond bizarre. When my daughter had a suspicious lump in her breast we went to the doctor for the initial exam, talked about what the next steps were, made an appointment for the biopsy, the doctor talked her through the process (basically a hole punch type situation where it grabs some of the tissue in the breast). It was done in a matter of minutes and she most certainly wasn't put under. I kind of dismissed this whole thing because it was just their way to bring in Leo, but it was REALLY outside the realm of any reality. Even if Grace didn't know she had a lump and it was discovered during the breast exam, it still wouldn't have happened that way. And, it usually takes days, not hours, for results. 6 minutes ago, MyAimIsTrue said: He thought he was there for an acting role or audition when it fact it was to teach drama to kids in an after school program (Boys and Girls Club, I believe.) I thought he had a small job as a piano player for the real teacher but that teacher wasn't there for.... reasons I forget. 2 Link to comment
iMonrey October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 Quote I enjoyed seeing the sperm bank nurse again. That's Laura Kightlinger, and she's a producer of the show (now, as well as on the original show). She made several appearances on the show back in the day, not only as the nurse in the sperm bank but also as Jack Black's nurse/sister when Karen went in for a physical. She was also a nurse at Jack's school when he was studying nursing and was at his graduation ceremony. I think she's also written several episodes. She used to be a stand-up comic back in the day. 6 Link to comment
WhosThatGirl October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 I don’t know. I’ve never liked Leo, I just never thought he fit in with the group and for some reason Grace always bothered me when she was in a relationship with Leo. Also yes.. I just assumed they had only been married once until this episode mentioned a second marriage? My thinking before this episode was that they had stayed married from when he cheated and got separated but never went full with a divorce,and I don’t know what parts of season 8 are retcon and forgotten about, they seem to be taking bits and pieces and almost, if not all of Graces story from season 8 is totally forgotten about because she was pregnant through almost all of that season so.. it’s confusing because in a perfect world, I assumed season 8 would be erased completely but were still including Vince and we are now including a second marriage with Grace and also which to me makes things way more confusing than needs to be. This episode was better. Look it probably takes time to get back into these characters. 3 Link to comment
marny October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 My DVR cut off about 1-2 minutes before the end of the episode, literally in the middle of Grace's sentence. Would anyone mind telling me what happened at the very very end? 2 Link to comment
Michichick October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 Jack seemed to be wearing a lot of makeup. Was that character-based, or are they just overdoing it on Sean Hayes's face? Link to comment
Jillybean October 13, 2017 Share October 13, 2017 20 minutes ago, Michichick said: Jack seemed to be wearing a lot of makeup. Was that character-based, or are they just overdoing it on Sean Hayes's face? He's looked weird in all three eps to me. As though he's had work done, plus wearing makeup. 2 Link to comment
txhorns79 October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 Quote I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Grace's medical situation was just bizarre. What procedure did they put her under for, exactly? It seemed like she had no idea there was any issue with her breast until she came out of anesthesia. I just presume whenever Grace walks into any office, they immediately use gas to knock her out because no one wants to deal with her. Sometimes it's best to make your own fun. Quote He's looked weird in all three eps to me. As though he's had work done, plus wearing makeup. I feel like he's wearing make up in an attempt to look younger. 2 Link to comment
J-Man October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 I don't remember Jack ever knowing how to play the piano in the previous incarnation of the show. Link to comment
giovannif7 October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 I seem to recall Jack accompanying himself at least once during a "Just Jack!" performance, and he definitely played during the "Unforgettable" duet with Karen in the finale. 7 Link to comment
Star Aristille October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 On 10/12/2017 at 8:51 PM, swimmyfish said: It worries me for Vince's return; I thought he was great, and I am afraid what they'll do with him this time around. I just hope they give Will and Vince a proper amount of closure, like they did for Grace and Leo. 4 Link to comment
Delphi October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 Quote It worries me for Vince's return; I thought he was great, and I am afraid what they'll do with him this time around. I hope if they do cover Will and Vince its nothing super dramatic but rather both of them being married to their jobs, being a detective and a lawyer are both time consuming and emotionally draining jobs. 3 Link to comment
sinkwriter October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 (edited) Quote That was beyond bizarre. When my daughter had a suspicious lump in her breast we went to the doctor for the initial exam, talked about what the next steps were, made an appointment for the biopsy, the doctor talked her through the process (basically a hole punch type situation where it grabs some of the tissue in the breast). It was done in a matter of minutes and she most certainly wasn't put under. I kind of dismissed this whole thing because it was just their way to bring in Leo, but it was REALLY outside the realm of any reality. Even if Grace didn't know she had a lump and it was discovered during the breast exam, it still wouldn't have happened that way. And, it usually takes days, not hours, for results. Seriously. I had to roll my eyes a little because she had an initial test, got the biopsy AND got her results all in one day? That really is the magic of TV, because when I had to get biopsies in both breasts a few years back, it took FOREVER. I had to wait a couple weeks to have the biopsy and another week to get the results. It was pretty much a whole month of worrying and stress, wondering whether or not I had cancer. (Thankfully, I did not.) Quote I just presume whenever Grace walks into any office, they immediately use gas to knock her out because no one wants to deal with her. Sometimes it's best to make your own fun. Ha! Now that I could definitely buy. LOL. Quote That's Laura Kightlinger, and she's a producer of the show (now, as well as on the original show). She made several appearances on the show back in the day, not only as the nurse in the sperm bank but also as Jack Black's nurse/sister when Karen went in for a physical. I love her. She's always funny. So glad to see her back in a cameo. Quote While boozy bitchy Karen is what I like best her scenes with the young girl were great, especially the cute tap on the nose at the end. I enjoyed their exchanges as well, especially: Girl: You're mean! Karen: You have nooooooo idea. Heee. Karen's terrible with kids, but always really funny with them. Edited October 14, 2017 by sinkwriter 5 Link to comment
Miss Dee October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 I don't know why, but for some bizarre reason although I just good-naturedly tolerated Jack in the original run, I'm suddenly more invested in his story than just about anyone's else's right now. I'd LOVE for him to realize he gets more joy out of teaching young kids and pursue that as a dream. I'd LOVE for Kyle Bonheiner to turn out to be more than a one-night stand for him and see him in a real relationship. I don't know where the hell this is coming from!! It's not like I'm invested in SH as an actor; this sudden interest in Jack's end game is coming completely out of left field for me. 9 Link to comment
useryikes October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 I hated the orange dress, not keen on the jean jacket either. Link to comment
Black Knight October 14, 2017 Share October 14, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 10:41 AM, marny said: My DVR cut off about 1-2 minutes before the end of the episode, literally in the middle of Grace's sentence. Would anyone mind telling me what happened at the very very end? NBC does that on their entire Thursday line-up (and perhaps other weeknights as well, but I wouldn't know since I only watch the Thursday line-up) and it's highly annoying. In theory I should catch the last part of the show on the recording for the next show in the line-up, but there seems to be a gap of a couple seconds as my DVR changes from recording one show to the next. So all I saw on the next recording was the door closing. Maybe I'll just set my DVR to record Superstore for 90 minutes past the show's actual end and thus capture all of Thursday on one unbroken recording. For most shows I guess it's just cutting off a final joke, but The Good Place often has a major twist in the final seconds. 1 Link to comment
memememe76 October 15, 2017 Share October 15, 2017 Although I never liked Leo in the original run, his scenes with Grace had me cracking up. I also think he looks great. That Last Word bit was great. I am finding Will and Grace good. I have become less enthused with Jack and Karen. 2 Link to comment
SmithW6079 October 15, 2017 Share October 15, 2017 9 hours ago, Miss Dee said: I don't know why, but for some bizarre reason although I just good-naturedly tolerated Jack in the original run, I'm suddenly more invested in his story than just about anyone's else's right now. I'd LOVE for him to realize he gets more joy out of teaching young kids and pursue that as a dream. I'd LOVE for Kyle Bonheiner to turn out to be more than a one-night stand for him and see him in a real relationship. I don't know where the hell this is coming from!! It's not like I'm invested in SH as an actor; this sudden interest in Jack's end game is coming completely out of left field for me. I doubt Jack will have any growth. In the original series, didn't he stop acting and started studying to become a nurse? If I'm recalling correctly, he discovered he was good at it. Then, suddenly, he dropped that character growth to go back to being "Just Jack," a stereotypical self-centered gay man. I admit I laughed several times throughout. I especially liked Karen's interaction with the little girl who was getting her first period, and her realization that was the girl's issue. It didn't make sense, though, that Karen asks her at the end if she had a "husband or lover" to talk to about it -- didn't the girl tell her she lived with her father and brother, so there were no female role models for her or girlfriends she could confide in? I got the impression that Karen had bought her some feminine hygiene products. In another thread, someone mentioned that Debra Messing is trying so very hard. I have to concur. Her storyline was stupid. As others have mentioned, in what world does someone wake up from anesthesia not knowing why you were anesthetized? 1 Link to comment
MaryMitch October 15, 2017 Share October 15, 2017 10 hours ago, SmithW6079 said: In another thread, someone mentioned that Debra Messing is trying so very hard. I have to concur. Her storyline was stupid. As others have mentioned, in what world does someone wake up from anesthesia not knowing why you were anesthetized? I'm not sure how common it is, but it happens. I lost an entire day. 1 Link to comment
sinkwriter October 15, 2017 Share October 15, 2017 Quote In another thread, someone mentioned that Debra Messing is trying so very hard. I have to concur. Her storyline was stupid. As others have mentioned, in what world does someone wake up from anesthesia not knowing why you were anesthetized? But is that Debra Messing's fault, or the fault of the writers who came up with such a ridiculous plot point? 4 Link to comment
film noire October 15, 2017 Share October 15, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 2:15 PM, Miss Dee said: this sudden interest in Jack's end game is coming completely out of left field for me. You've been hiJacked! 9 Link to comment
iMonrey October 16, 2017 Share October 16, 2017 Quote He's looked weird in all three eps to me. As though he's had work done, plus wearing makeup. Frankly it's jarring to see all four of them eleven years older. I catch reruns of this show from time to time - WE TV ran a Saturday marathon of the show I watched while I was cleaning house. So I still expect them to look the way they did eleven years ago. It doesn't help that we've suddenly rejoined them and everything in their lives is basically the same except for the way they look. Speaking of looks, I find myself distracted by the re-design of the exterior hallway. Link to comment
Gothish520 October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 On 10/14/2017 at 2:15 PM, Miss Dee said: I'd LOVE for Kyle Bonheiner to turn out to be more than a one-night stand for him and see him in a real relationship. I agree, that would be great! Loved KB in the short-lived Jane Lynch sitcom Angel From Hell - very funny. 2 Link to comment
festivus October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 I think they all look great especially Megan and Eric. Damn, he is one handsome man. <3 10 Link to comment
Annber03 October 17, 2017 Share October 17, 2017 My mom has a crush on Eric McCormack :D. He's a good-looking guy, no question. 2 Link to comment
mtlchick October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 On 16/10/2017 at 2:41 PM, iMonrey said: He's looked weird in all three eps to me. As though he's had work done, plus wearing makeup. I'm thinking it's the makeup: a few friends got to see his Broadway play within the past year and posted their selfies with him. He's older (duh) but didn't seem he had work done. On 16/10/2017 at 2:41 PM, iMonrey said: Speaking of looks, I find myself distracted by the re-design of the exterior hallway. YES, I'll fanwalk that they had renovations done to the building, but I really don't like it. Link to comment
msrachelj October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 11:37 AM, Blakeston said: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Grace's medical situation was just bizarre. What procedure did they put her under for, exactly? It seemed like she had no idea there was any issue with her breast until she came out of anesthesia. this was insane. i was flashing back to remembering how many years ago a woman would go in for a possible breast cancer issue and wake up without a breast. what doctor these days puts a woman under without her knowing it (!) to give her a biopsy? AND...she was way way way too calm about it and the fact that she might have cancer! wtf!? completely unrealistic. especially for someone like grace. i have been more anxious about a rash. On 10/14/2017 at 7:23 PM, Black Knight said: NBC does that on their entire Thursday line-up (and perhaps other weeknights as well, but I wouldn't know since I only watch the Thursday line-up) and it's highly annoying. In theory I should catch the last part of the show on the recording for the next show in the line-up, but there seems to be a gap of a couple seconds as my DVR changes from recording one show to the next. So all I saw on the next recording was the door closing. Maybe I'll just set my DVR to record Superstore for 90 minutes past the show's actual end and thus capture all of Thursday on one unbroken recording. For most shows I guess it's just cutting off a final joke, but The Good Place often has a major twist in the final seconds. just set each show to record 5 minutes early and end 5 minutes later. i do this a lot. otherwise you can miss the beginning or end of many shows and i don't know why this happens. Link to comment
msrachelj October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 11:37 AM, Blakeston said: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Grace's medical situation was just bizarre. What procedure did they put her under for, exactly? It seemed like she had no idea there was any issue with her breast until she came out of anesthesia. and it's breast cancer awareness month . and this totally unrealistic , never would happen situation is how they bring it up? 1 Link to comment
GHScorpiosRule October 18, 2017 Share October 18, 2017 On 10/13/2017 at 11:37 AM, Blakeston said: I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought Grace's medical situation was just bizarre. What procedure did they put her under for, exactly? It seemed like she had no idea there was any issue with her breast until she came out of anesthesia. A biopsy. And so ridiculous. As a survivor, when I underwent this procedure, I was AWAKE. They just Lidocained the area to death, so I wouldn't feel the GIANT, HUMONGOUS NEEDLE going through my breast to extract tissue to see if the lump was cancerous or benign. They told me I would feel a "slight discomfort." My ass. I would have preferred to be put under, and I have a high threshold for pain. Actually, in the beginning of the episode, she told Will that her obgyn found "something" in her left breast and she had to get a biopsy or something. And next thing we see, she's coming out of anesthesia. 31 minutes ago, msrachelj said: and it's breast cancer awareness month . and this totally unrealistic , never would happen situation is how they bring it up? Double insult, even if it was played for laughs. 1 Link to comment
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