Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[Lunera]

Video posted on the Duggar website. I've been pronouncing Forsyth wrong this whole time.

http://www.tlc.com/embed?page=297190

Edited February 26, 2018 by Lunera

[Bitter Betty]

31 minutes ago, Loves2Dance said:

For Joy's sake, I hope she was able to push the baby out---I had 1 vaginal birth and 1 c-section and the 10 lb baby through the vagina isn't as bad as being cut open. 

This is a YMMV situation. My first was almost 9 pounds.  I delivered her vaginally and she tore me wide open. It took me 18 months to recover.  My second was 7.5 pounds, I had a c-section and it has been 2 months and I'm fully healed. My c-section was SOOOO much better than my vaginal birth.  

Either way for Joy, I hope she had whatever works best for her.  But my vag still cringes thinking about pushing out a 10 pounder.

[nittanyvolleyball]

I cringe just thinking about pushing a baby out of my vag in general lmao

[lizzie3]

I have a soft spot for the name Gideon, since it's the middle name of one of my close family members. Anyway, it's an under-used Biblical name that I hope will serve him well.  So congrats to Joy & Austin on their well-named, beautiful baby.  In that photo though, they look like a pair of teenagers! Oh wait....

[momma2seven]

Csection wouldn't be surprising based on his size but my 8+ pounders had nice round heads "and I delivered every one of them" haha

It's a mouthful of a name for sure but to each their own, I guess.

[SMama]

Would it have taken so much effort for Austin to move the box in that hall? They had a birth pool, so maybe she did try the dumb Duggar way first. It’s interesting that the picture of Gideon alone leaves room for interpretation as to whether he was born in a hospital. Heck a birthing center is better than the single digit collective IQ of Jill and company. It’s been a very long time since I gave birth. How long do vaginal birth babies keep their cone heads?

[Loves2Dance]

10 minutes ago, SMama said:

Would it have taken so much effort for Austin to move the box in that hall? They had a birth pool, so maybe she did try the dumb Duggar way first. It’s interesting that the picture of Gideon alone leaves room for interpretation as to whether he was born in a hospital. Heck a birthing center is better than the single digit collective IQ of Jill and company. It’s been a very long time since I gave birth. How long do vaginal birth babies keep their cone heads?

It didn't last super long for my oldest, her head was round by day 2. 

[SMama]

And Gideon was born three days ago. Still good round head.

Edited February 26, 2018 by SMama
Because there isn’t such a thing as a rowing head. I think ?

[McManda]

I like the name Gideon. It's both unique and not too off the wall and (not that it matters to me) has that biblical tie in.

2 hours ago, Abmis said:

The name Gideon makes me think of the goofy youngest brother in Seven Brides For Seven Brothers.  Your comment makes me think that maybe Joy's going use the same plan for naming her seven sons but is working her way backwards.  That means the next one will be Frankincense.  Frankinscense Forsythe has such a lovely ring to it. 

I love Seven Brides and don't want them to become the Pontipees (Joy will never, ever be as awesome as Milly), buuuut I might be on board with the biblical ABCs for laughs.

... but only if they make their daughter Dorcas. She can be best friends with Spurgeon.

[FakeJoshDuggar]

1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

It's Austin's middle name. Y and all.

They should have corrected that travesty. 

[Jynnan tonnix]

I like the name Gideon as well...I actually like a lot of very Biblical names. Kinda too bad that my daughter, who is even stronger of an atheist than I am put the kibosh on any discussion on names with religious connotations for her baby. Ah, well.

Gideon looks cute enough from what I can see, but I do suspect he has Austin's nostrils...

[Portia]

3 minutes ago, FakeJoshDuggar said:

They should have corrected that travesty. 

Don't you mean travysty?

At least they didn't double down on the obnoxious spelling by spelling it Gydeon.  I know someone named Jonathon, and he's spent his entire life correcting people who want to spell it the traditional way, Jonathan.  But what did he name his own kid? Nathon. 

[humbleopinion]

That's just a mean thing to do to your kid...sentence him to a lifetime of spelling his name aloud out over the phone, correcting every official document and gifted with personalized items that has your name misspelled....every single damn time...

[Temperance]

1 hour ago, momma2seven said:

Csection wouldn't be surprising based on his size but my 8+ pounders had nice round heads "and I delivered every one of them" haha

It's a mouthful of a name for sure but to each their own, I guess.

 I'm not sure what you mean by " and I delivered every one of them" TLC had Michelle saying that, because it included a few c-sections.  I also would think no less of a woman who gave birth by c-section than one who gave birth vaginally. 

Edited February 26, 2018 by Temperance

[Heathen]

Joy needs an industrial-strength, super heavy duty bra to hold her breasts up now. I can only imagine how uncomfortable they must make her. 

Some women just have big babies. My sister's first two weighed almost ten pounds apiece, with no gestational diabetes, my aunt is the same way, and there was only one cesarean involved (the aunt's first). 

[humbleopinion]

If Joy has any 2 brain cells connecting in her air filled head she will have an industrial double breast pump to empty those milk engorged baby feeders simultaneously...

She needs to completely empty those puppies so she can get some relief from the fullness or she will be spraying the whole room with her breast milk shooting out of them every time Giddyup makes a whimper....

Edited February 26, 2018 by humbleopinion

[Lunera]

People magazine posted the announcement on their Instagram page and Chrissy Tiegen wrote a comment saying "That is 100% Michael Cera". Such an insult to Michael Cera, in my opinion. 

[BunnyBlueBrown]

[Genevrier]

2 hours ago, Bitter Betty said:

10 pounds.  Oof. My 2 month old is the same size. Joy just gave birth to a 2 month old.  Ouch. 

I hope for the sake of her lady parts that it was a c section. If it was, I also wonder if she attempted a home birth first. 

Mine didn’t hit ten pounds until after she was sitting up, so at least six months. 

[Sew Sumi]

2 hours ago, Bitter Betty said:

10 pounds.  Oof. My 2 month old is the same size. Joy just gave birth to a 2 month old.  Ouch. 

I hope for the sake of her lady parts that it was a c section. If it was, I also wonder if she attempted a home birth first. 

They said in the video that there was a birthing pool. I hope to baby jeebus that it wasn't used and they got Joy to a hospital to deliver that behemoth. 

I so knew that the baby was already born and that they were just shelving the announcement until be premiere day. 

[Farmfam]

Based on his size and head shape I'm going with C-Section...but it appears they are home already. When I had my scheduled c I wasn't discharged until day 4, so I'm leaning towards vaginal in the hospital. 

I love the name Gideon! 

[FakeJoshDuggar]

2 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

They said in the video that there was a birthing pool. I hope to baby jeebus that it wasn't used and they got Joy to a hospital to deliver that behemoth. 

I so knew that the baby was already born and that they were just shelving the announcement until be premiere day. 

That poor girl is probably wrecked, positively destroyed if she gave birth naturally.

[Sew Sumi]

More pics. 

[Marigold]

I had a 10 pounder vaginally. And another one. It was pretty rough. Then I had C-sections. 

Glad the baby is safe. 

[Madtown]

I'll take Gidion(I actually like that name)over Sprugeon any day of the week! He's pretty cute and of course looks very healthy. The details of his birth will be interesting, here's hoping she didn't pull a Jill. So between, Jill(because she'll be stupid and have another), Jessa, Jinger and Joy(number 2 won't be far down the road), which will have the first girl of that group? The article stated Joy is 20. Why have I've been thinking she is 18 and posting about her being 18? Lol...

[Sew Sumi]

What's odd in the IG pics is that Jill congratulated Joy as if she wasn't at the birth. 

Riiiight.

[SMama]

Could Chrissy Teigen be referring to Austin? His coarse hair has a Michael Cera quality.

[momma2seven]

1 hour ago, Temperance said:

 I'm not sure what you mean by " and I delivered every one of them" TLC had Michelle saying that, because it included a few c-sections.  I also would think no less of a woman who gave birth by c-section than one who gave birth vaginally. 

I was just being silly...it meant nothing negative.

[JoanArc]

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Why have I've been thinking she is 18 and posting about her being 18?

This group is lousy with 17, 18, and 19 year old spouses and parents. Easy mistake to make.

[louannems]

1 hour ago, Heathen said:

Joy needs an industrial-strength, super heavy duty bra to hold her breasts up now. I can only imagine how uncomfortable they must make her. 

Some women just have big babies. My sister's first two weighed almost ten pounds apiece, with no gestational diabetes, my aunt is the same way, and there was only one cesarean involved (the aunt's first). 

Heck.  Joy could just cut out the bodice of Michelle's Tin Foil Dress for industrial strength support!

[Temperance]

50 minutes ago, Sew Sumi said:

They said in the video that there was a birthing pool. I hope to baby jeebus that it wasn't used and they got Joy to a hospital to deliver that behemoth. 

I so knew that the baby was already born and that they were just shelving the announcement until be premiere day. 

You were right!  You told me so!

I'm shocked that she already had the baby.  I'm glad for her sake she did. That baby is huge.  

11 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

This group is lousy with 17, 18, and 19 year old spouses and parents. Easy mistake to make.

Technically everyone was at least 19 when they got married and Kendra is the first 19-year-old mother.  Joy was 19 when she announced she was pregnant. 

1 hour ago, Lunera said:

People magazine posted the announcement on their Instagram page and Chrissy Tiegen wrote a comment saying "That is 100% Michael Cera". Such an insult to Michael Cera, in my opinion. 

I doub that's the real Chrissy Tiegen. 

I'm disappointed People is buying again.  They did a feature on Joy's wedding, but gave Joe's wedding a small blurb.  I wonder what they'll do for Joe's baby and Jinger's baby and...

[Boofish]

The picture on the People magazine website -  Joy does not look well. She has a heavy yellowish hue to her skin like she has jaundice.  But man oh man that baby is super duper cute

[zoomama]

i was thinking again...(i do this every once in a while) that it is kinda nice they had a boy. barring jinger's baby, gideon has lots of basically same-age boy cousins to grow up with.  a girl in the mix would have felt like when joy was the only girl in that long line of boys growing up. 

[Temperance]

I have a lot of boy cousins born around the same time as me. They are all great and one of them is one of my best friends. Joy also enjoyed playing with her brothers until she got old enough she was forced to girly things.  Also knew a family where they had bunch of boys and two girls far apart. The boys carried the younger sister around for long time. Being the only girl can have its perks. 

Edited February 26, 2018 by Temperance

[MichaelaRae]

REALLY hoping Jinger gets the girl (we know Joe and Kendra are having a boy, so Joy and Austin's was the question mark). Just because I feel it will make Jessa and Jill (especially Jessa) jealous that Jinger would finally deliver one after this long spate of boys. 

Edited February 27, 2018 by MichaelaRae

[Genevrier]

I stepped away from this thread for fifteen minutes, and when I came back I realized I’d already forgotten the baby’s name. 

[kokapetl]

10 lbs. Do people spring back from that, or will she fear every sneeze?

Gydeon Martyn Forsyth 

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

More pics. 

And she’s instantly aged 10 years.

[MyPeopleAreNordic]

On 2/23/2018 at 3:36 PM, bigskygirl said:

Sadly even with health insurance, they probably still would take major chances because God will save them.

And probably also because deductibles are high. I pay over $400/mo for health insurance through my job (and my employer contributes even more than that) and still have a $1200 deductible. And my plan is considered by many to be "good insurance" as it doesn't have a $4-5k deductible. 

On 2/24/2018 at 10:08 PM, CatS said:

I have no doubt that they aren't getting adequate prenatal care, but 42 weeks is within the range of normal. It probably depends on the OB, but mine with my first pregnancy gave me the option of waiting until 42 weeks to schedule an induction if needed (but we knew DD1 was vertex and in the 6lb range, because I, you know, saw my OB regularly, unlike the J's). 

I saw a nurse midwife for prenatal care with my first baby. She was very much into "letting things progress naturally and waiting for baby" as long as everything else was okay. I would have let her induce me exactly on my due date because I was beyond ready by then. I was not a happy pregnant lady, particularly at the end. She wouldn't induce until 2 weeks past the due date.

That is exactly when I was induced (last few minutes of the night of my due date); baby was born thirteen hours later - making him born 15 days past his due date. Sigh. It all depends on your OB/nurse midwife.  I saw an OB for my daughter; the OB was good to induce four days after her due date because it fit her schedule. Thankfully, daughter started coming on her own a few days before her due date. She wasn't a procrastinator like brother. Ha.

On 2/25/2018 at 1:45 PM, Absolom said:

Let's hope she doesn't go as far past her due date as we think Jill did.  Three days and counting.

Three days is nothing. See my 15 days above. Baby was 9lbs 3oz.  I pushed for two hours.  I had third degree tears in two places. OUCH!  My pelvic floor/birth canal were damaged and I had to do pelvic floor physical therapy.  Even with the PT, things aren't exactly the same in that area and aren't ever going to be.  I had third degree tears in two places. OUCH!  My son's head was perfectly shaped even with the two hours of pushing. Many people asked me if he was a C-section baby and I was like "trust me, I pushed that out and it took forever." So it's possible Gideon's perfect head isn't necessarily a C-section indicator. 

My daughter, though, was even bigger - 9lbs 8oz -and born a few days before her due date.  I didn't push as long and only got a first degree tear. Her head was not perfect. The OB had to kind of re-mold it when she came out and it still didn't look as "perfectly-shaped" as my son's had for a while. The recovery from the second birth was much easier, even though she was larger and it was only 17 months after my son's birth. I guess my body was used to birthing large babies second time around. I don't know, LOL. I'm not having any more babies to find out, though.  

6 hours ago, hlnfn74 said:

coming out of lurkdom to say that People has news of baby Forsyth's birth. 10lb 3oz baby boy, born the 23rd

 

 

5 hours ago, Lunera said:

 

Of course they waited for the premiere to announce.

 

He's a cutie. Joy looks like she just had a big old baby. I know that look well. LOL. (The hell if you'd have seen me posing for pictures for People magazine a few days after birthing a big baby, though.)

My dad is 6 & a half feet tall and my husband's great-grandfather was 6'7" - we have lots of tall people in our families and both hubby and I are above average height. None of the Duggars and their in-laws look like particularly large people, but damn...they have some large babies.

Edited February 26, 2018 by MyPeopleAreNordic

[BitterApple]

Joy looks wrecked. It wouldn't surprise me if she delivered vaginally at home.

Gideon is a cutie. The name isn't something I would pick, but it's not terrible.

[jumper sage]

Ok, counting on my fingers and ............................................Ha ha.

[Lunera]

30 minutes ago, Boofish said:

The picture on the People magazine website -  Joy does not look well. She has a heavy yellowish hue to her skin like she has jaundice.

I think either Jessa or Jana tried to fix her up a bit for pictures using their makeup and put the wrong foundation color on her. Joy doesn't fake bake so it looks like her face is a totally different color than her body. 

[Emme]

I like the name Gideon. I used to babysit a Gideon (in the late 70s).

My first baby was 10 lbs. 3 oz. as well! He was born 13 days late via c-section after failure to progress. He was so big, he held his head up on his own, and he immediately wore 3 mos. clothes. Also, the newborn diapers we'd stocked up on were too small!

They say subsequent babies are bigger, but I had three more, all smaller than the one before! My fourth was 7 lbs. 30 oz. - three pounds less than number one!

[Ohiopirate02]

10 minutes ago, Lunera said:

I think either Jessa or Jana tried to fix her up a bit for pictures using their makeup and put the wrong foundation color on her. Joy doesn't fake bake so it looks like her face is a totally different color than her body. 

You're right.  In the picture where she is tilting her head down, you can see where the foundation stops and the skin around her part is lighter than her face.  She is wearing a cheap foundation that is also too dark and it oxidized.

[Heathen]

53 minutes ago, Boofish said:

The picture on the People magazine website -  Joy does not look well. She has a heavy yellowish hue to her skin like she has jaundice.  But man oh man that baby is super duper cute

Whoever put makeup on her chose the wrong color. And she looks tired (of course). 

Here's hoping Joy is more like Jessa as a mom than Jill. Remember when people thought Jill would be a great mom and Jessa would be like Mullet? Weren't they ever wrong. 

[mom2two]

I think she gave birth vaginally, as how she is sitting and holding the baby.   With a C-section I dont think she would be sitting up like that.    Also she would still look pretty pregnant.

[FairyDusted]

I'm glad they Mother and Son are healthy and safe. He is super cute! I don't thin ALL newborns are. LOL! But when I first saw the photo I read, "Little Duggar" instead of "Little Digger." 

[ginger90]

Cute baby and glad all seemed to go well.

One of the pictures has their kitchen in the background. I know she’d be home by now, but I do wonder if she had a home birth. Has anything been said one way or the other?

[Sew Sumi]

3 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Cute baby and glad all seemed to go well.

One of the pictures has their kitchen in the background. I know she’d be home by now, but I do wonder if she had a home birth. Has anything been said one way or the other?

No. There's evidence that they were planning a homebirth, but people say he looks like he's in a hospital bassinet. 

[Temperance]

14 minutes ago, FairyDusted said:

I'm glad they Mother and Son are healthy and safe. He is super cute! I don't thin ALL newborns are. LOL! But when I first saw the photo I read, "Little Duggar" instead of "Little Digger." 

I think that's deliberate. Like someone saw it in a store and decided to buy it. They chose it for the photoshoot because Digger is very similar to Duggar. 

A sudty ocne siad our brians are wried so taht we can raed txet mesesd up like tihs if the frsit and lsat lteter saty the smae. 

(A study once said our brains are wired so that we can read text messed up like this if the first and last letter stay the same.) We can also mistake words that end in the first and last letter or sound similar. 

[humbleopinion]

Shocked Austoon let the Giddyup wear something that approximated the Dugg's name...the TLC checks must have mellowed his willingness let his spawn be branded with Joy's family surname for his first publicity picture...