Post-Election Fears & Anxieties

[ruby24]

Florida always takes forever. If they can actually call it before 11pm est, that would be amazing and yes, we can all breathe easy. But I'm not counting on that yet. And I hope North Carolina comes in early, but the last two elections, that one was razor thin as well.

My rest easy state is Virginia. That one shouldn't be that close, according to all the polls, so once that's in, I think things will be okay.

[Morrigan2575]

I took Wednesday off, either to celebrate/relax or freak out in the privacy of my own home.

In either case, I will be up late on Tuesday waiting for FL and NC to get called. 

[debbie311]

16 hours ago, Pixel said:

This is my only safe space.  My family and friends already think I'm too obsessed with all of this, and they have no idea I have my little safe house on the Internet. 

I hope that after Tuesday I can go back to not giving a shit about politics.  I normally am bored to tears by elections. This whole being pants-shittingly terrified is new. 

This is so me.

[BW Manilowe]

USA TODAY has a (serious) 12-step plan for people whose presidential candidate loses on Tuesday.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/11/06/12-tips-if-your-presidential-candidate-loses-trump-clinton-healing-america/93170124/

[car54]

Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the email review was done and no change to their July finding of no criminal activity found.

Hallelujah!

[NextIteration]

1 hour ago, Grommet said:

I've decided to not fight my post op inability to stay awake for more than 2 hours at a time. I'll be over here with my pal percocet, snoozing away the days until the election.

Many healing vibes to you. ♥

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAS!

Edited November 6, 2016 by NextIteration

[Morrigan2575]

3 minutes ago, car54 said:

Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the email review was done and no change to their July finding of no criminal activity found.

Hallelujah!

Woohoo!

[SoSueMe]

4 minutes ago, car54 said:

Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the email review was done and no change to their July finding of no criminal activity found.

Hallelujah!

Better late than never, but geez, how much damage has Comey done?

[Medicine Crow]

2 minutes ago, SoSueMe said:

Better late than never, but geez, how much damage has Comey done?

My sentiments exactly.  As Dana Bash just said, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube!!!  If Hillary loses ....

[starri]

You might even say he was...what's the phrase...extremely careless?

[AimingforYoko]

Alright, so the Republicans can go back to hating Comey and the Democrats can go back to hating Comey less.

[starri]

Just now, AimingforYoko said:

Alright, so the Republicans can go back to hating Comey and the Democrats can go back to hating Comey less.

No, I'm pretty sure the D's still edge the R's after this.

If they should somehow swing the Senate, he's going to end up in front of group of very hostile Senators.  And that's assuming he doesn't get fired first.

[EyewatchTV211]

Yeah, the D's should still be mad. After all the people with experience in this area have said Comey should never have said anything without having any facts, this reinforces that point. He created a huge stir over nothing instead of doing his job correctly and keeping his mouth shut, only reporting to his superiors if necessary.

[Darian]

 I've thought Comey was partisan all along, even back this summer, so I've simply been validated. I don't put things in terms of  hate. 

[khyber]

3 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Based on conversations with my brother and co-workers:

1. Stick it to liberals

2. Women back in their place as incubators with legs.

3. The Christian nation we were never meant to be

4. Gays back in the closet and/or criminalized.

5. A cocoon of comforting, homogeneous whiteness

6. Guns, guns, guns.

7. Big strong daddy figure who will keep them safe 

8. Ability to say the N word.

9. Did I mention that they really enjoy sticking it to anyone on the left?

10. To become rich by butt kissing and enabling the ultra-wealthy. 

*This list reflects a very small sample size. Trump voters in other areas might want different things.

This is my in-laws to a tee.

[fastiller]

1 hour ago, SoSueMe said:

Better late than never, but geez, how much damage has Comey done?

 

1 hour ago, Medicine Crow said:

My sentiments exactly.  As Dana Bash just said, you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube!!!  If Hillary loses ....

However... if HRC wins, much of the damage Comey has done may just have been to his own career.

Edited November 6, 2016 by fastiller
Auto fill had comeuppance for Comey. Somehow that's strangely appropriate though, innit?

[millennium]

The best part of this is that it deprives Trump of his favorite toy.

[bosawks]

Melania?

[maraleia]

I hate this election so much and what it's done to my psyche and physical well being. Also, Susan Sarandon is dead to me and that sucks because I really wanted to watch Ryan Murphy's Feud miniseries but she's in the cast and I will not watch anything she does anymore after her stupid Jill Stein endorsement, especially when Stein has been found to invest in the very things she rails against. She's a hack and Sarandon is a lunatic.

[random chance]

I've decided that the next time someone asks me who I'm voting for, I'm going to say "the one who isn't batshit crazy."

[GaT]

5 minutes ago, maraleia said:

I hate this election so much and what it's done to my psyche and physical well being. Also, Susan Sarandon is dead to me and that sucks because I really wanted to watch Ryan Murphy's Feud miniseries but she's in the cast and I will not watch anything she does anymore after her stupid Jill Stein endorsement, especially when Stein has been found to invest in the very things she rails against. She's a hack and Sarandon is a lunatic.

This is Susan Sarandon to the Democrats once they didn't pick Bernie. She would rather vote for someone who has no chance of winning than vote against Trump.

[NinjaPenguins]

Callmebetty, I can't say for sure what lurks in the hearts of the Trump voters I know or what motivates them to want terrible things. Fear of losing privilege, anxiety over social progress, fundamentalist brainwashing, etc. might be part of it. A couple of Trumpers I know are just honestly malicious people who swoon to the siren song of the orange bully. I asked a co-worker why he wanted to say the N word so badly, and after hemming and hawing, he could only come up with "black people get to say it!"  

Around here, guns are damn near treated like fetish objects. A couple of co-workers peruse gun mags once a week with the excitement of a horny teenager seeing their first porno. They have sad, hilarious fantasies of being bad ass, sharpshooting heroes who turn robbers into Swiss cheese with their mad skillz. For years they've been promised that freedom-hating libs are going to confiscate their armories, yet they still have them. Gun manufacturers must be making a buttload of money off my small town. Oh yeah, some of these gun nuts truly, earnestly believe that they will be called upon to overthrow the government and water the tree of liberty and that all their fellow Americans will rise up with them instead of pointing and laughing. My co-worker acted like I was the nutbar when I told them the government would kick their ass; they really think their plucky patriotic selves will defeat armored vehicles and missiles. 

Sorry that turned into a rant! It probably doesn't explain much about why Trumpers want what they want. A lot of it seems to come down to fear.

[MulletorHater]

1 hour ago, car54 said:

Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the email review was done and no change to their July finding of no criminal activity found.

Hallelujah!

He had no business interjecting himself into this in the first place.  His next course of action should be to read Julius Caesar.  I have no doubt that the daggers will be coming out for him soon especially given the rogue elements in his agency.

Hopefully, Hillary and Loretta will clean house.  Not only does it take a village to raise a child, but  it also takes a woman--or several--to do what a man is too chickenshit to do.

[car54]

If I were Hillary, the first two things I'd do to set a tone for the way she plans to proceed is to put together a task force or initiative to upgrade and improve the techology the government is dealing with so that no future Secretary or Cabinet member needs to look at outside methods of communications because the government tools are so hard to work with.  And then I woud work WITH Comey (if he stays--he has a 10 yr term if he wants to) to clean out whatever is happening within the FBI that provoked all the leaking.  It is my belief that Comey only sent the October letter because he knew the anti-Clinton people were going to spill something.    She's going to have to work with a LOT of people she may not personally like and I think this could be a huge positive for her plan to work across party lines.

[NextIteration]

32 minutes ago, car54 said:

 It is my belief that Comey only sent the October letter because he knew the anti-Clinton people were going to spill something. 

I agree, but I'm not sure there is much to work with - the well is pretty poisoned - that said, it's in her nature to collaborate.  She has a tightrope to walk, to be pragmatic with the right and keep all her promises to the left.

Ha, I keep forgetting why I click into one thread or another.  So, anxiety relief...

I just spent an hour or so, lurking about on twitter, Lovett, Favreau, Pfiefer, Mesinna - you know, the Obama team.  They all seem pretty damned confident and jovial - I don't think it's a front.

Edited November 6, 2016 by NextIteration

[ABay]

Everybody's already said everything and I forgot to take notes as I read the thread. Thank you all for being here and sharing the pain, and thank you PTV gods for providing a safe harbor. 

In addition to the things others have listed, and especially what would happen to the Supreme Court and Social Security, my top fear about a Trump presidency is the further decline of American education. I work at a university. I would like universities to continue to exist. I would also like K-12 education to improve enough that college students no longer write things like "I seen him in the hall" and spelling tough as tuff.

During the 2008 election, I blocked half of my family on Facebook and never unblocked them. If my siblings and I didn't look so much alike, I'd demand a DNA test because I can't believe we're related sometimes.

As much as I would like to, I won't be able to drink myself to oblivion on Tuesday because I have to work until 9 and also have to represent a faculty member at a disciplinary action on Wednesday. A hangover would not improve matters. But after that....Even if HRC wins, the amount of ignorance and hatefulness this election has exposed among so much of the population is distressing to an extent only Bailey's Irish Cream-chocolate gelato milkshakes can ease. WTF, America?

[aradia22]

So... a little bit about me. First, I'm glad this is here because I'm totally anxious. Second, the reason I'm anxious is that I had to cut myself off from a lot of places. It has nothing to do with bias... I just can't see a certain candidate's face anymore. I can't hear his name. I've felt gross the two times I passed one of his buildings (I live in NY). So I've pretty much limited myself to Last Week Tonight with John Oliver, Keepin' it 1600, This American Life, and occasionally watching The Daily Show with Trevor Noah. To balance that out I've got a crazy lazy sending me a barrage of mostly Breitbart, dailymail, and nypost spam emails (long story, don't ask)... somewhere between 10 and maybe 40 a day depending on how she's feeling... and anywhere from email speculation to crazy bananas conspiracies. I try to give the subject lines the barest glance as I delete them. I also get a little bit of Fox News and Fox Business filtered through but I've managed to cut it back to less than 30 minutes a day. 

I am anxious because even though I know so many people will be voting with me, Keepin' It 1600 has been growing less confident, particularly after the whole Comey thing and the crazy emails are like someone is taking a giant dump of misery and hate in my inbox every day. Before the election stuff there was already a healthy dose of anti-Muslim, anti-African American racism. 

I'm voting tomorrow and hopefully in a week I'll be able to breathe easy again but if someone could send over some bunnies and puppies for me to cuddle in the meantime that would be great.

[car54]

I'm expecting just to cry no matter how it ends.   If Trump wins I will be sad--and afraid ---I am old and for almost my entire life, I've felt like in our country, things have improved--I've seen civil rights, women's rights, gay rights come in my life, but Trump's candidacy has shown me that the side that hates those things never went away--it was just tamped down and Trump has made it acceptable for them to come out from under their rocks again.

If Hillary wins, I will also cry because I've wanted to see a woman have the opportunity to be president my whole life--and I don't have that many elections left in my life--so it will be a big deal for me-   I've liked her and supported her since she was first lady, and I've seen such growth in her over the years that I think I will be really emotional when it happens.     I'm feeling very hopeful right now but the way this all has been --with major changes every day, I'm afraid to relax and really feel it all the way.

Hillary gave a beautiful speech in Ohio with Lebron a little while ago --very low key and almost emotional about her many hopes for this country.  I wish this FBI shit had not happened so that she could have had that way to close the campaign for the last 10 days.   

[random chance]

3 minutes ago, car54 said:

If Hillary wins, I will also cry because I've wanted to see a woman have the opportunity to be president my whole life--and I don't have that many elections left in my life--so it will be a big deal for me-   I've liked her and supported her since she was first lady, and I've seen such growth in her over the years that I think I will be really emotional when it happens.   

I saw her speak in person and shook her hand back when Bill Clinton was running. I'll cry along with you! :)

[ABay]

Remembered I forgot to say:

Thanks for the 538 alternatives. Watching the numbers drop as I obsessively refreshed the page was making me feel worse and worse.

For the first time ever, I canvassed for local candidates. My state senator and a state representative for the district closest to my work are both being challenged by big money candidates, so I spent a couple of hours last Saturday and yesterday going door to door. It wasn't too bad. Mostly people don't answer the door (I never do!) so you leave the literature and move on.

Re: the discussion of businesses displaying signs. Ordinarily, I go to the chiropractor every week for various issues but the last month and a half I've been going once every 2 weeks just to avoid the conversation. I think I'm pretty obviously not interested in discussing the election but he does anyway. If he'd put up a sign, I would've switched to a different practice. I still might.

[aradia22]

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I just came back from Target, and at a gas station on the way home there was a makeshift Trump t-shirt stand. It took all my restraint to not throw my can of Coke out the window at the guy manning it. It was like, instant fury.  

Oh, that reminds me. Early on, I think it was still warm out but Trump had definitely emerged as the Republican pick whether or not he'd actually secured the nomination, I saw a pro-Trump homemade sign tacked up when I was out walking my dog. I surreptitiously ripped it down, crumpled it up, and threw it in the garbage. That was a good day.

[NextIteration]

They Dreamed Of Putting A Woman In The White House. Now They Wait Anxiously.

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The feminists who laid the groundwork for a female president are afraid to feel anything yet.

WASHINGTON ― When Ellen Malcolm founded EMILY’s List in 1985 to elect more women to office, the idea of a female president was almost unfathomable.

“Voters were just mystified at the idea of a woman running for office,” she said. “If a woman ran for Congress, people would ask her, ‘Who’s doing the grocery shopping? What does your husband think? Who’s taking care of the kids? Do you really think you could understand the federal budget?’”

Thirty years later, EMILY’s List has helped elect 19 Democratic women to the Senate and 110 to the House of Representatives, 11 female governors, and more than 700 women to state and local offices. It’s raised more than $400 million to train “pro-choice Democratic women” to run for office. And, by electing hundreds of competent and successful female leaders, the group slowly warmed American voters to the idea that a woman can run the whole country.

Now, as the founding vision of Malcolm’s group is so close to being realized, the emotions are difficult for her to process. Tuesday could mark the culmination of a goal three decades in the making, or a crushing, emotionally wrenching defeat.  

“I’m at this stage where I don’t want to read any more news. I can’t stand it,” Malcolm said. “But on the other hand, I can’t not read it. I’m just so excited at the prospect of Hillary winning. It’s overwhelming.”

[Grommet]

My sister texted me about Coney so I knew it was safe to turn on msnbc. But then there was KAC and I had thoughts of beating her with my cane. Haaaate her.

[candall]

3 hours ago, car54 said:

Comey sent a letter to Congress saying the email review was done and no change to their July finding of no criminal activity found.

Hallelujah!

Do I see a banner to this effect running 24/7 at the bottom of every television broadcast?  I do not.  The damage is done, the bell rung, the toothpaste squeezed.  Is anyone who hopped on the Satanic Email Train of Condemnation now going to pause, reconsider and hop back off?  Ha.  FUCK you, Comey.  I hope you go down in history as a stain.

 

The only thing I can think of, from my personal experience, that might account for people favoring Trump, is this:  My (ex-) BFF was all gung-ho about Schwarzenegger for Gov because she thought it would be fun to "shake things up" by putting a non-politician in charge of the entire governmental structure.

 

I just broke into my Election Night bottle of Jameson's, a little early.  Come to the Walking Dead Live Chat and enjoy a bowl of my word salad.

 

(Sorry.  I'm not contributing to the soothe. . . uh, Bartender! Irish whiskey for everyone!)

[Quilt Fairy]

29 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

Oh, that reminds me. Early on, I think it was still warm out but Trump had definitely emerged as the Republican pick whether or not he'd actually secured the nomination, I saw a pro-Trump homemade sign tacked up when I was out walking my dog. I surreptitiously ripped it down, crumpled it up, and threw it in the garbage. That was a good day.

You should have had your dog wipe his ass on it.

9 minutes ago, candall said:

The only thing I can think of, from my personal experience, that might account for people favoring Trump, is this:  My (ex-) BFF was all gung-ho about Schwarzenegger for Gov because she thought it would be fun to "shake things up" by putting a non-politician in charge of the entire governmental structure.

I think that was the same thing that happened with Jesse Ventura in Minnesota. Didn't work out so great.

[Kitty Redstone]

2 hours ago, NinjaPenguins said:

Around here, guns are damn near treated like fetish objects. A couple of co-workers peruse gun mags once a week with the excitement of a horny teenager seeing their first porno. They have sad, hilarious fantasies of being bad ass, sharpshooting heroes who turn robbers into Swiss cheese with their mad skillz.

I'm convinced this is why people are so crazy for conceal and carry.  They imagine that someday they'll get to be a hero.  It's so pathetic.

1 hour ago, car54 said:

It is my belief that Comey only sent the October letter because he knew the anti-Clinton people were going to spill something.   

I agree with this.  It's unfortunate that he issued such a poorly worded letter in response and has so little control over some of his agents.  Hopefully, reorganizing the NY field office(s) and firing the Breitbart-Mercer compromised agents has moved to the top of his to-do list.

Edited November 7, 2016 by Kitty Redstone

[Padma]

I don't buy the idea that Comey was kind of forced into making his announcement because of a fear of leaks.

The FBI had apparently known about those email (existing) for months. Someone had told Ghouliani about them some months earlier, but agents had stayed silent successfully until Comey blabbed it.

I -might- believe him that he didn't know until Thursday and then, imo, freaked out that his integrity would be questioned. Or, alternatively, saw it as a partisan opportunity.

Either way, he's too experienced and too smart to have written and sent a letter like that--one that so perfectly fit the Trump narrative of "Crooked Hillary"--without knowing full well it could be exploited for political purposes by one candidate to hurt the chances of the other. There's no way he didn't understand that.

Also, if he CARED about the political impact, then he (1) would have worded it precisely, not vaguely and (2) have read the statement to the press, perhaps even taken a question or two--but at least been precise on details. His vagueness gave Trump excellent ammunition for over a week--at a crucial time. That, imo, was no coincidence.

That said, I never thought there'd be a resolution before the election.  Imagine the other possibilities that could have been announced the Sunday before Election Day!  Scary!!!

So for that, while I believe Comey's motives were bad and he should go, I'm still relieved.

[EyewatchTV211]

Just read that between the release of the first FBI letter and the 2nd correcting it today, around 65% voted in Florida. :/

[BookWoman56]

I didn't think ahead to plan to take Wednesday off in case the election goes sour, so getting drunk to celebrate/grieve Tuesday night is not an option. But I don't think I can watch the news either via TV or online without getting too anxious as the evening wears on, so I've decided on a completely different path. I'm going to the movies to see Dr. Strange, at my local cinema that does not allow texting or phone calls, and will either take an extra dose of my blood pressure/heart rate meds or have a drink, long enough to keep me distracted for at least a couple of hours. I'm going for the 7pm showing, and only after I am home from the movie will I allow myself to check the election coverage and see what the results are at that point.  It's a movie I was intending to see anyway, and I fully recognize that I will likely have to go see it a second time post-election to be able to enjoy it. My first stop online will be the election night thread here, so I can brace myself before turning on the actual news. I'm still hopeful, but I wish this election had been held about two weeks ago when things seemed much more certain.

As for Comey's news, I just lost $20 that I had bet myself that this announcement would come precisely the day after the election. I'm relieved that the news there is positive, but I am not going to delude myself in any way that it will change the minds of the people who were already pro-Trump. I suppose there may be a few undecideds or some Dems who were a bit on the fence who might have their vote swayed, but the damage has already been done.

[NextIteration]

I'm getting more and more cautiously hopeful.  I just posted a link to this in another thread - but I actually thought it might be good here, it made me feel better anyways.

[MulletorHater]

1 hour ago, Padma said:

I don't buy the idea that Comey was kind of forced into making his announcement because of a fear of leaks.

The FBI had apparently known about those email (existing) for months. Someone had told Ghouliani about them some months earlier, but agents had stayed silent successfully until Comey blabbed it.

I -might- believe him that he didn't know until Thursday and then, imo, freaked out that his integrity would be questioned. Or, alternatively, saw it as a partisan opportunity.

Either way, he's too experienced and too smart to have written and sent a letter like that--one that so perfectly fit the Trump narrative of "Crooked Hillary"--without knowing full well it could be exploited for political purposes by one candidate to hurt the chances of the other. There's no way he didn't understand that.

Also, if he CARED about the political impact, then he (1) would have worded it precisely, not vaguely and (2) have read the statement to the press, perhaps even taken a question or two--but at least been precise on details. His vagueness gave Trump excellent ammunition for over a week--at a crucial time. That, imo, was no coincidence.

That said, I never thought there'd be a resolution before the election.  Imagine the other possibilities that could have been announced the Sunday before Election Day!  Scary!!!

So for that, while I believe Comey's motives were bad and he should go, I'm still relieved.

Exactly.  I just don't buy the "good guy forced to do something or else" narrative.  The damage has already been done, and he knew exactly what he was doing.  He needs to be held accountable and should resign.  At the end of the day, he still violated the Hatch Act.  He, along with Chaffetz, Ghouliani, and whomever in the bureau leaked those faked emails and the Rich pardon files need to be investigated.

And, talk about trying to put a genie back in the bottle.  No, Ghouliani, you don't get to gloat on national television about having a couple of more tricks up your sleeves and then try to walk it back after the shit backfires on your asses.

[b2H]

8 hours ago, Jodio said:

My election night dinner party in 2004 definitely went sideways when W. started collecting the electoral votes. I basically abandoned ship, told my guests they were on their own, and was ranting and raving while refreshing web pages looking for hope. My then-fiancee put me on news blackout for 3 days after that heartbreaking disappointment.

This year, with the horrifying possibility of Trump winning, I'm taking a different approach. As a Canadian, I'm feeling extremely powerless and terrified about the possibility of him winning, so I booked a trip to Bali and am leaving late on Tuesday night. If the election isn't decided by the time I leave Canada at midnight PST, I'm taking a Xanax and bunkering down on a plane for a 13 hour flight to Taipei. I'm way beyond alcohol so I'm going pharmaceutical for this one.

If the worst case scenario happens and Trump wins, I'll get in one last trip before he's inaugurated. Then I'll just get my affairs in order and wait for the mushroom clouds.

You might not even be safe there.  The pilot is likely to make an announcement as you are over the Pacific......

[backformore]

2 hours ago, car54 said:

I'm expecting just to cry no matter how it ends.   If Trump wins I will be sad--and afraid ---I am old and for almost my entire life, I've felt like in our country, things have improved--I've seen civil rights, women's rights, gay rights come in my life, but Trump's candidacy has shown me that the side that hates those things never went away--it was just tamped down and Trump has made it acceptable for them to come out from under their rocks again.

If Hillary wins, I will also cry because I've wanted to see a woman have the opportunity to be president my whole life--and I don't have that many elections left in my life--so it will be a big deal for me-   I've liked her and supported her since she was first lady, and I've seen such growth in her over the years that I think I will be really emotional when it happens.     I'm feeling very hopeful right now but the way this all has been --with major changes every day, I'm afraid to relax and really feel it all the way.

Hillary gave a beautiful speech in Ohio with Lebron a little while ago --very low key and almost emotional about her many hopes for this country.  I wish this FBI shit had not happened so that she could have had that way to close the campaign for the last 10 days.   

This is me as well.   I keep reading, in so many places, about "college-educated suburban white women"  and sometimes the added "over age 50"  and how we are traditional and tend to vote Republican.   WHO SAYS SO?   A college education and a house in the 'burbs didn't change me!  Not me, not my sisters, not my friends.  I get so angry when I am seen as a demographic -  I am an individual. 

[b2H]

3 hours ago, car54 said:

If I were Hillary, the first two things I'd do to set a tone for the way she plans to proceed is to put together a task force or initiative to upgrade and improve the techology the government is dealing with so that no future Secretary or Cabinet member needs to look at outside methods of communications because the government tools are so hard to work with.  And then I woud work WITH Comey (if he stays--he has a 10 yr term if he wants to) to clean out whatever is happening within the FBI that provoked all the leaking.  It is my belief that Comey only sent the October letter because he knew the anti-Clinton people were going to spill something.    She's going to have to work with a LOT of people she may not personally like and I think this could be a huge positive for her plan to work across party lines.

The Hatch Act may have other ideas.  Not to mention the protocols about managing such investigations, which he violated pretty much from the start in October.  I honestly give until the end of the week, if not until the end of the month.

[NewDigs]

The thing that makes the most anxious is that this kind of won't end. I didn't think a clusterfuck bigger than 2000 was possible.

I didn't think we could be more fractured. 

I'm more of a rat person but I admit to being now swayed by bats.

Edited November 7, 2016 by NewDigs

[aradia22]

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I just watched it, hilarious ! But it dawned on me when the  Republican candidate uses little as a put  down like with Jon Stewart or Marco Rubio .  How is it really a put down, what does the little mean, like a kid? Short? It's just so laughable. 

Height can be an appealing quality on a dating site. If you're a presidential candidate and that's the best you can do, you're probably not that impressive of a person. Or just a really lazy "comedian." Or not very smart. Or all of the above. 

[maraleia]

This is the kind of fear I've felt since the GOP convention ended but Shaun King does a better job of expressing it here http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/stopping-trump-essential-well-being-americans-article-1.2861135

If Orange Hitler gets elected I envision a world where all of us Dems/progressives are rounded up and put in work camps like the Japanese-Americans were in World War II because he's all about revenge. This means Hollywood, Silicon Valley, Broadway, all non-profits, museums being shut down and the country going to rot and ruin. I'm not kidding. This is what's been swimming around in my brain for weeks.

Even canvassing and doing phone banking hasn't helped. I'm having trouble focusing and can't even muster up enough energy to clean my apartment because what's the point until after Tuesday night.

Edited November 7, 2016 by maraleia

[movingtargetgal]

I live in a rural area of NH and for the past six weeks we have had Hillary supporters canvassing our neighborhood. Most of these people are from out of state. We have also had several phone calls from the Democratic camp encouraging us to vote, asking if we needed transportation to the polls, etc. Mr. Moving and I have been impressed with Hillary's campaign's "ground game"  I live in a heavily wooded area and can not even see our neighbors homes, yet they are here to earn our vote.  The Hillary camp seems like they are not going to leave any stone unturned.  We have not even had one Trump supporter show up at our door, not even a phone call.  We have asked friends and coworkers if they have experienced the same kind of outreach from the campaigns.  Only one of our friends had anyone from the Trump campaign contact them.  Trump does not seem to have much of a game plan beyond the huge rally with ego boosting crowds.  He does not seem to have a get out the vote effort.  This is helping to ease some of the anxiety I have been feeling.  I can't wait for this to be over.  

[parisprincess]

I found this thread just in time! My anxiety level is through the roof right now, so it sure helps to find a place with like minded individuals. I'm usually a news junkie, but haven't been able to watch the news for the past week. Reading online allows me to make the decision whether or not I want to open a link based on the headline. One thing for sure, I've never used the mute button on my TV as much as over the past few weeks.....I cannot look at or listen to that disgusting piece of shit or his minions, especially that moron Kelly Ann. Thanks for being here, folks; I'm depending on you all to help me get through the next 48 plus hours.

[NextIteration]

7 minutes ago, maraleia said:

This is the kind of fear I've felt since the GOP convention ended but Shaun King does a better job of expressing it here http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/stopping-trump-essential-well-being-americans-article-1.2861135

While I appreciate the sentiment in his post - this is yet one more asshole that spent a year throwing shade at Clinton that now wants all the people he tried to convince to hate her - to show up at the polls.  I don't even feel sorry for him or his experience.  These assholes knew better and they didn't do better.