Post-Election Fears & Anxieties

[Rapunzel]

5 hours ago, magdalene said:

Today I started to cut family out of my life and out of my  will who voted for Trump - I know who they are because of their gloating. They are not getting a penny. Their children are not getting a penny either. I have the memory of an elephant and once my good will is gone it's gone for good.

Today I ran into an aquaintance  who has been pro Trump - I refused to acknowledge her and rather enjoyed her confused and hurt expression.  I will not be friends with any Republican or support any of their causes.

As an attorney, though not one that specializes in Probate but who has friends who do, if there are people that you want to ensure don't inherit anything from your estate, the best thing to do is to actually name them in the will and leave them $1.00. This way they cannot even attempt to argue that just forgot about them, that you may not have been in the right state of mind, etc.

I have family drama of my own, it has nothing to do with the election and started long before that, but basically my mother and my sister were both asking me for money to support my lazy ass sister who refuses to work and is 10 years older than I am, has an RN, but is trying to claim disability. 3 states have denied her this. She and her husband have now moved back in with my mother and step-father for about the 10th time as they keep getting evicted (their credit is so bad banks won't even give them a checking account) and my mother actually had the nerve to send me an invoice for $1000 per month to support my sister. I ignored it and haven't spoken to my mother for over a year now. This was complicated when my father passed a year ago as he had disowned my sister as she had stolen from the entire family, beaten me on several occasions, refused to call anyone unless she needed money, spent time in jail, etc. She lost her RN job because she has had a long term drug problem and was taking drugs from the kids she was treating on the pediatric oncology ward. As I was executrix of my Father's will, my mother blamed me for my sister not inheriting anything (my parents had been divorced for over 25 years). The first thing my mother said to me when I told her my Father passed was "Well, we need to talk about his estate." My Father was just 61, and he made it clear to anyone that would listen (lawyers, doctors, his financial advisor, my step-mother, my aunts and uncles, etc.) that he only had one child and it was me.

I have a rare neurological condition, and it is managed and I work as an attorney for one of the largest tech companies in the world, travel world wide, split time living between southern CA and London (married a Brit and have dual citizenship). However, should anything happen to me, even if I get hit by a bus crossing the street or something, I made sure how my estate was handled was iron clad and that they wouldn't inherit a thing - other than $1.00 each.

Back on topic, I spend most of my time working abroad, but have been at our home in Southern CA for a couple of weeks now. We threw a party last night for the election and were all devastated by the outcome. I snuck off to the master bedroom to cry more than once. My husband and I have been seriously considering moving back to the UK and making that our permanent home. My company has offices all over the world and he and his father own a company that takes them on projects around the world, so where we physically live doesn't really matter. We have an exit plan, and I think when we go back to the UK for Christmas and New Years, we may just stay. We will keep our home here, but will likely rent it out for a while.

I'm glad I didn't have to face anyone today and had planned on taking the day off regardless of who won because of the party, but I am completely numb. I'm fortunate to live in a very liberal area of Southern CA, so I don't really have much fear of Trumpsters and I did make it to the grocery store today, but I feel for those who have legitimate fears about just doing every day things. It isn't right. That is not America - that is not what this country fought so hard for. Everything feels upside down now and I keep holding out some hope that between now and mid-January, something can still be done, especially as its known Russia hacked Hillary's e-mails, so why wouldn't they be able to hack the voting machines? I just can't believe that so many Americans would prefer him over Hillary. That man has offended pretty much every group at one point or another. He is not about unity - he is dividing this Country. I just hope that, as many have said, his supporters start to realize real fast what ignorant assholes they have been because he can't do anything he said would. He will make this country worse than it was in 2008 and Obama came in and spent 8 years trying to clean up the horrible mess that was left for him. He did the best he could. Trump won't care when people start to lose their homes again, their retirement funds, their 401ks, their jobs, etc. He has no interest in it. He won't care about destroying relationships with allies that we've had for decades. He won't care about nuclear warfare being a possibility. He won't care about China perhaps wanting to call in some of our debt early. The man won't care about anything except hearing "Hail to the Chief" whenever he enters a room and hosting State Dinners and showing off Millania. This whole thing is so sad and depressing.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Rapunzel

[magdalene]

What I like about this thread is finding comfort with like-minded  shell-shocked folks. Everywhere else I get assaulted by gloating, being ridiculed and rubbing it in. It hurts too much right now.  Maybe I gain some perspective in a couple of weeks but I just don't have it now.

[Constantinople]

I've noticed that every time the Cubs win the World Series during an election year, the Republican candidate is elected President.

Still, I've decided not to blame the Cubs.  Instead, in the spirit of Americans coming together, I've decided to blame a foreign sports team, the Western Bulldogs of the Australian Football League.  They won the AFL Grand Final this year for the first time in 62 years.

[BookWoman56]

34 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

So I guess Ted Nugent, Mike Tyson and Scott Baio will be the entertainment  at the inauguration.

One of the very, very few things that provides a small bit of comic relief right now is imagining Trump's people trying to line up some top tier talent for the inauguration, only to be told every time, "Not only no, but hell no."

[aradia22]

In case my inspirational, optimistic, and joyful songs aren't everyone's cup of tea, this one helps me sometimes when I'm in a dark place. For the people who like those other songs, this one might not be for you.

[NextIteration]

So, at 6:30 this morning I texted the lass asking her if she'd hate me if I didn't come.  I got back a not very happy text back, but do what you gotta do.  I replied that I needed a few hours.  I ate more bad food and took a long nap.  We talked again an I told her I'd do my best to get it together and get packed.  I'm almost done packing - and I'm pretty sure that I'm going for it.  It will take my mind of this disaster.

[KaveDweller]

I was looking at the popular vote numbers and got curious about voter turnout. It's less than 50%. I got curious about the numbers, so I looked up some numbers. Trump and Hilary both got just under 60 million votes. The US population (counting citizens only), is 295 million people. Only 20% of the population voted for each of them. The difference between them is almost nothing percentage-wise when you count all citizens. I don't know if that makes me feel better or worse.

I don't get how so many people can not vote. I know some people think that with the electoral college their vote doesn't matter, but it's so depressing when you look at the numbers like that.

[glowlights]

4 hours ago, magdalene said:

I am in Ca and some of us were black humor joking today that maybe CA should part from the Union. 

The secessionist campaign has already begun:

http://abc7news.com/politics/campaign-underway-to-make-california-a-separate-country/1599164/

I stayed home today and avoided literally every other human except my husband.

[AuntiePam]

2 minutes ago, KaveDweller said:

I don't get how so many people can not vote. I know some people think that with the electoral college their vote doesn't matter, but it's so depressing when you look at the numbers like that.

Last night at a city council meeting, one of the council members said she didn't vote.  "I don't like either of them, so I stayed home."  So there were millions more like her, I suppose. 

[aradia22]

@KaveDweller If I'm understanding your numbers correctly, then maybe it'll make you feel slightly better, KaveDweller, to realize that everyone in that 295 million was not eligible to vote (underage, etc.). But still, low voter turnout continues to be disappointing.

[Lantern7]

I cried. Cracked watching Full Frontal. I don't feel any better. My soul still feels like it's going to throw up at any second. And I got "Hurt" playing in my head. Not the Nine Inch Nails original . . . the Johnny Cash cover. Damn it, why did Logan reintroduce that in the trailer?

[GaT]

This is the first time in my life that I have actually been afraid of the President. 

[aradia22]

[Rapunzel]

14 minutes ago, Lantern7 said:

I cried. Cracked watching Full Frontal. I don't feel any better. My soul still feels like it's going to throw up at any second. And I got "Hurt" playing in my head. Not the Nine Inch Nails original . . . the Johnny Cash cover. Damn it, why did Logan reintroduce that in the trailer?

All day I've had "It's the End of the World as We Know It" by REM stuck in my head - except I don't "feel fine." Quite the opposite. Glad to have this forum to come to and glad that the vast majority of my friends and colleagues feel the same. I have alternated between needing shoulders to cry on and just being numb all day long.

Edited November 10, 2016 by Rapunzel

[KaveDweller]

9 minutes ago, aradia22 said:

@KaveDweller If I'm understanding your numbers correctly, then maybe it'll make you feel slightly better, KaveDweller, to realize that everyone in that 295 million was not eligible to vote (underage, etc.). But still, low voter turnout continues to be disappointing.

Oh, good point, I forgot about age. I made a point to take out people living in the US who aren't citizens, but not that.

According to this, there are about 231 million eligible voters. So the percentage of people who voted for Hilary Clinton is 25.6% and the percentage of people who voted for Donald Trump is 25.5%.

[catrox14]

11 minutes ago, GaT said:

This is the first time in my life that I have actually been afraid of the President. 

This is exactly how I feel.

[ulkis]

1 hour ago, BookWoman56 said:

Maybe I will feel differently in a few days, but at this point I wish that the Northeast and the West coast could pull off their own Brexit and just form a new country with a sane president and sensible legislature.

I don't know if this is the answer but I wish it could be tried out/attempted. I saw a couple of people saying people had mocked Texas in 2008 when they wanted to do the same thing. I didn't. 

[aradia22]

Do something good tomorrow (or today depending on what time it is where you are).

[ruby24]

Fuck the god damn electoral college. Only 5 times in our history has this happened- 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000 and 2016.

That is wrong. This should never happen. The person who wins the votes should win the election, period. The country didn't vote for this man, the system gave it to him anyway. Never stop protesting him. Ever. Swarm his shitshow of an inauguration.

[Lantern7]

And You-Know-Who tweeted about how bad the Electoral College was in 2012. Apparently, irony wasn't done kicking us in the balls for 2016.

[diet7up]

55 minutes ago, ChristmasJones said:

I'm glad to find this thread.

On Election day, I didn't read any news, listen to any news, or watch TV. I was so worried that Drumpf would win, I just couldn't bear to cope with the anxiety of watching the predictions.  So I went to bed, not knowing who our next president would be.

During the night, I had a dream that I was consoling Hillary because he won. I explained that he wasn't going to have fun being the president, and it was going to be way more work that he bargained for, and that he would get sick of having to be held accountable every day for the next four years.

I woke up this morning and waited a while to turn on NPR. I thought, if I have to hear the bad news, I want it from NPR. So I clicked on the radio, while still in bed, and I heard the words "that was Hillary giving her concession speech." I shut the radio off and cried.

I cannot believe that a man with a personality disorder is now our president. I just feel utterly sick.

He will NEVER be "president" to me. He will always be a reality-show fool that I used to enjoy making fun of when he was on The Apprentice.  I can literally never see him as a real professional politician, let alone POTUS. I just can't. He is a fake, a huckster, a con, a sociopath, I could go on. I can't even stand to hear the sound of his voice. Anytime it would come on over the past year, I would turn the radio off.

None of this has anything to do with policies or political views.

This man is a disgusting human being and it is truly terrifying that he is now the leader of the United States.

I co-sign everything you said.   Did not watch any election coverage and fell asleep feeling hopeful and anxious at the same time. Woke up around 230 am and couldn't bare to turn on tv so I checked this thread.  Saw immediately that man won. I burst into tears and have been feeling despondent yet resigned ever since. I too had been looking forward to Nov 9th so he could fade into oblivion only to find out as you call him a disgusting human being will be the leader of the free world.  I found him appalling on the Apprentice and stopped watching that show after a few seasons.  This is what our country has come to that a reality tv star will be the most powerful man in the world. It just boggles my mind. This thread has been a lifeline for me. Have read every comment. I refuse to watch any news shows or read any papers or mags. Not ready to see any images of him. My updates post election have come from this thread and a few radio shows. 

[ruby24]

We need to get rid of the Electoral College. I see no reason for it to exist. It says that only certain people's votes count. That's fucked up. It needs to be gone.

[ChristmasJones]

For anyone who is scared about the implications for the ACA, this blog has some good, detailed information that explains that it most likely won't (can't?) necessarily all come tumbling down in one fell swoop. 

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2016/11/09/day-one-and-beyond-what-trumps-election-means-for-the-aca/

I think this is an area where it is important to send letters to our local and state representatives.

I find myself wondering... a year or two for now, when healthcare costs are still a huge problem for millions of Americans... who are the Drumpf voters going to blame then??

[random chance]

Sometimes I "like" a post where someone is really upset and I just want to explain, I do that because I want you to know you were heard, not because I like that you were upset.

[Lantern7]

And I'm back to crying, this time over a fan parody of Yu-Gi-Oh! Can't I just skip to the part where I feel nothing in my soul?

[aradia22]

OK, good night, guys. Try clicking a few of the videos. It might help. I likely won't be checking in tomorrow because I'm going back to the suburbs.

[Moose135]

3 hours ago, AuntiePam said:

I'm hearing Sarah Palin for Secretary of the Interior

I heard she was confused by that, since it's all outside...

[Bastet]

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According to this, there are about 231 million eligible voters. So the percentage of people who voted for Hilary Clinton is 25.6% and the percentage of people who voted for Donald Trump is 25.5%.

Yet some of the very same Republican pundits who denied Obama had a mandate are claiming Trump has one.  Only a quarter of the population voted for him, and more people voted for her, but that's a mandate.  Okay.

People with no impediments to voting who don't vote should be called out (it's their right to opt out, but it's also our right to judge that decision), but the most disturbing issues for me are a) the number of people made ineligible to vote in the first place by our "new Jim Crow" laws, b) the places where voting is made cumbersome, voters are mislead and intimidated, etc. and c) gerrymandering of districts.  (And, golly gee, it must be a coincidence the majority of those disenfranchised by A, B, and C are statistically likely to vote for Democrats.)

[backformore]

I haven't read the last few pages, I just can't deal.

But I did find this, about how Trump reacted to the 2012 election results

 

[crayon78]

I've been reading here for a while without posting, but just wanted to say thank you to everyone. It's been nice to know that my small circle of the world isn't alone in feeling the way we are, and that we're not alone. I'm grateful that my husband, parents, and the majority of my Facebook feed (largely POC and/or female and/or LGBT) understand. I cannot imagine living in the same house or having someone in my immediate family (I can't speak for my extended family's decisions during this election) be an enthusiastic Trump supporter. My heart goes out to those of you struggling with that. I don't know how I could even deal with that right now.

I was crying on and off last night and spent most of it completely terrified of this president and everything he encouraged out of certain people in our society. I was mostly numb today, although I could feel the pressure building, but what sent me over the edge and into crying again was seeing comments on Facebook about how the only people afraid of walking outside under Trump are people afraid of chalk, and also making fun of people possibly getting triggered or needing a safe space. Mocking and belittling people's genuine fears, not having an ounce of empathy or compassion that they may actually feel this way and be afraid of what their own country might do to them, especially in light of hateful comments people are already receiving on the street, was just too much. People who look like me - US citizens, born in these borders - have been through this before with the internment camps, and 70+ years later, we're still seen as others and not Americans. So yes, I'm genuinely afraid that it's possible again given the rhetoric of this election. Not to mention all the other reasons people might be terrified outside of just race and ethnicity. The inability or unwillingness to even try to understand from people who I've known in person and thought had some compassion, I just don't know how to process that right now.

Anyway, I'm glad this thread is here, and I'm thankful for this support group since I can't bear to watch the news or some of the other stuff I usually do, and Facebook/Twitter these days can be a minefield.

[aradia22]

[YesWeCantNotKnope]

I just want to say thank you so much to this thread. So many amazing posts and while mine probably won't be any different than most of the posts here, it'll be cathartic to get it off my chest.

I've cried. I've shouted in anger. I've sat in stunned silence... I cannot fathom how this has happened. 

The thing that sickens me the most about all of this is a) President Obama, our first black president, has to hand over the White House to a man that has been proudly endorsed by the KKK. The same man that spent YEARS trying to delegitimize his entire existence, being the founder of the birther movement.

That, and the fact that Hillary won the popular vote. WE THE PEOPLE voted for her, NOT Trump. He is NOT my president. The electoral college has got to go. Two times in 16 years this has happened, and this one is the worst consequence of it.

My entire family is basically Trump loving ignorant people. A few days ago, my dad's uncle said "Hillary has already been pardoned. Obama pardoned her"... I mean, where do they get this stuff? 

But the most important person in my life, my mother, THANK GOD stood up for her morals and beliefs. She's been a lifelong Republican and voted Democrat for the first time this election. She voted for Hillary and down ticket except for one vote. THAT is how much Donald Trump scares her. That's how much Pat McCrory has fucked up this state. She's sickened and stunned that so many people.

The media hammering on and on and on about the damn emails, attacking the Clinton Foundation... all while ignoring Trump and his shady slush fund foundation, not hammering him about his taxes, not hammering him about the Trump University fraud... and so on and so on... 

It sickens me. CNN and the like? They helped create this monster. They wanted ratings. They wanted this horse race. And now they're just oh so shocked that this man has somehow won. Who wants to bet they'll finally do their damn jobs and NOW start talking ad nauseum about his 209420398 scandals? 

Between the media, Russia, the freakin' FBI... what the hell happened to this country? When did this kind of obstruction and corruption start? The best I can think of is the really crazy faction of today's Republicans started with the Tea Party with Sarah Palin and such. It's funny how they like to say OBAMA created this racism and division, when it was really just assholes rose up because a black man had the nerve to become president. 

Edited November 10, 2016 by YesWeCantNotKnope

[theredhead77]

I'm now terrified Stephen Colbert wI'll have his contract cancelled before the next election. 

.I can't do this without him.

[YesWeCantNotKnope]

You guys, Seth Meyers' segment tonight was so good. Him getting emotional got me emotional all over again.

I have to say, he's probably been my favorite person this election. His "A Closer Look" segment digs deeper than most other ACTUAL news pundints.

I love his "Were at Late Night, we'll be watching you." threat at the end. People like him and the amazing Samantha Bee aren't going to take his shit. 

Edited November 10, 2016 by YesWeCantNotKnope

[Ceindreadh]

5 hours ago, Syd said:

Serious question. Is there anybody here that is happy with the Trump victory? I thought the liberalism was only in a few forum threads. But if I'm wrong, I'll gladly vamos. 

Putin probably is. But I don't think he has an account here. 

2 hours ago, ChristmasJones said:

For anyone who is scared about the implications for the ACA, this blog has some good, detailed information that explains that it most likely won't (can't?) necessarily all come tumbling down in one fell swoop. 

http://healthaffairs.org/blog/2016/11/09/day-one-and-beyond-what-trumps-election-means-for-the-aca/

I think this is an area where it is important to send letters to our local and state representatives.

I find myself wondering... a year or two for now, when healthcare costs are still a huge problem for millions of Americans... who are the Drumpf voters going to blame then??

They'll blame Hilary for not running a better campaign. 

They'll blame the system for not allowing Trump to fulfill his campaign promises.

Trump will likely blame illegal immigrants, democrats, Obama, pretty much anybody except himself. 

[ruby24]

Wow, so yeah- it's going to be pretty difficult for them to just toss away the ACA altogether. Huh. And it seems to me like they really can't do it with no plan to replace it, or it's a full on catastrophe. Which means if they really want to do this they HAVE to come up with their own health care plan. And not only that, but it will take at least two years to get all that together- but McConnell says they'll do it in the first week? How? Hmmm. It actually looks to me like their easier bet would be to just stop defending it in the courts and chip away at it that way. Any drastic action is going to cause a massive disruption, that would be far more disruptive than implementing it was.

I don't know if they do it. I assume they're going to figure out how hard it is, if they think it's just going to be easy.

[ruby24]

The electoral college needs to go. He didn't win. She did. The media would treat is as a total scandal if Hillary didn't win the popular vote and there were protests in the streets.

It's simply not fair. The 2000 election caused mass partisanship going forward because of the whole debacle, and now this happens again, where the winner of the vote doesn't win? This is not going to end well. Voters will feel disenfranchised. It's not really democracy if the winner of the vote doesn't win the election. He doesn't have a mandate for shit if he didn't win the vote! This is going to get worse and worse.

We have to abolish it. Even though he's an idiot, Trump's tweets regarding it as being antithetical to democracy were right. This thing is outdated at best, but I honestly don't think it should have ever been in use. I want this to be a new movement, because people's votes just aren't counting and look at what happens because of it. No. This is wrong, period.

[film noire]

21 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

Some three months ago, my husband, retired from the Navy, was offered two jobs out of the blue at virtually the same time. One was in Virginia, the other in Nova Scotia. Of course, Nova Scotia was a far more exciting prospect, but since selling our house in Connecticut and both moving was not an option for a variety of reasons, we finally decided that the logistics of maintaining two households and commuting back and forth for brief visits every few weeks combined with Canadian/Nova Scotia taxes (each takes their own hefty share) did not make the Nova Scotia job really tenable...we'd end up clearing very little on it when all was said and done, so he accepted the job in Virginia. We joked, at the time, that we'd end up regretting it if Trump was elected...It really was not even on our radar that this was a real possibility. But it is actually becoming a real regret.

A Canadian legend to help you say farewell to Nova Scotia : ) 

Edited November 10, 2016 by film noire

[bmasters9]

2 hours ago, crayon78 said:

Mocking and belittling people's genuine fears, not having an ounce of empathy or compassion that they may actually feel this way and be afraid of what their own country might do to them, especially in light of hateful comments people are already receiving on the street, was just too much.

Especially some who fear that this nation will sooner or later be a theocracy; those people who mock those fears saying "Trump only said that to rally his base; it won't be a theocracy"-- what if it really does become like that? What will they say then?

[Iris987]

Hey all,

I've read these forums for a long time but never wanted to do much other than lurk. I just wanted to say how sorry I am that the election has turned out this way. I'm Australian and everyone I know watched this election closely with the same phrase repeated to reassure ourselves- "it'll never happen". I watched the 04 election and was furious, the 08 and was happy, 12 and was relieved. The writing was on the wall for '16 at about 2pm our time and I almost vomited. Everyone in my office sort of stopped and had varying degrees of horror and disgust on their faces. About 2 hours later I checked my email and had received a 10 page attachment from my superannuation provider explaining what effect this result and potential global economic instability would have on my retirement savings. Something which did not happen in any previous elections. It's now been 24 hours and I still feel nauseous. I can't believe that ignorant yam is going to be president. And while it won't impact me as directly as you guys, we are all global citizens and are all going to feel it when he makes some catastrophically stupid decision based on who looked at him cross eyed. And I'm just so sorry.

[walnutqueen]

6 hours ago, Rapunzel said:

As an attorney, though not one that specializes in Probate but who has friends who do, if there are people that you want to ensure don't inherit anything from your estate, the best thing to do is to actually name them in the will and leave them $1.00. This way they cannot even attempt to argue that just forgot about them, that you may not have been in the right state of mind, etc.

I have family drama of my own, it has nothing to do with the election and started long before that, but basically my mother and my sister were both asking me for money to support my lazy ass sister who refuses to work and is 10 years older than I am, has an RN, but is trying to claim disability. 3 states have denied her this. She and her husband have now moved back in with my mother and step-father for about the 10th time as they keep getting evicted (their credit is so bad banks won't even give them a checking account) and my mother actually had the nerve to send me an invoice for $1000 per month to support my sister. I ignored it and haven't spoken to my mother for over a year now. This was complicated when my father passed a year ago as he had disowned my sister as she had stolen from the entire family, beaten me on several occasions, refused to call anyone unless she needed money, spent time in jail, etc. She lost her RN job because she has had a long term drug problem and was taking drugs from the kids she was treating on the pediatric oncology ward. As I was executrix of my Father's will, my mother blamed me for my sister not inheriting anything (my parents had been divorced for over 25 years). The first thing my mother said to me when I told her my Father passed was "Well, we need to talk about his estate." My Father was just 61, and he made it clear to anyone that would listen (lawyers, doctors, his financial advisor, my step-mother, my aunts and uncles, etc.) that he only had one child and it was me.

I have a rare neurological condition, and it is managed and I work as an attorney for one of the largest tech companies in the world, travel world wide, split time living between southern CA and London (married a Brit and have dual citizenship). However, should anything happen to me, even if I get hit by a bus crossing the street or something, I made sure how my estate was handled was iron clad and that they wouldn't inherit a thing - other than $1.00 each.

Back on topic, I spend most of my time working abroad, but have been at our home in Southern CA for a couple of weeks now. We threw a party last night for the election and were all devastated by the outcome. I snuck off to the master bedroom to cry more than once. My husband and I have been seriously considering moving back to the UK and making that our permanent home. My company has offices all over the world and he and his father own a company that takes them on projects around the world, so where we physically live doesn't really matter. We have an exit plan, and I think when we go back to the UK for Christmas and New Years, we may just stay. We will keep our home here, but will likely rent it out for a while.

I'm glad I didn't have to face anyone today and had planned on taking the day off regardless of who won because of the party, but I am completely numb. I'm fortunate to live in a very liberal area of Southern CA, so I don't really have much fear of Trumpsters and I did make it to the grocery store today, but I feel for those who have legitimate fears about just doing every day things. It isn't right. That is not America - that is not what this country fought so hard for. Everything feels upside down now and I keep holding out some hope that between now and mid-January, something can still be done, especially as its known Russia hacked Hillary's e-mails, so why wouldn't they be able to hack the voting machines? I just can't believe that so many Americans would prefer him over Hillary. That man has offended pretty much every group at one point or another. He is not about unity - he is dividing this Country. I just hope that, as many have said, his supporters start to realize real fast what ignorant assholes they have been because he can't do anything he said would. He will make this country worse than it was in 2008 and Obama came in and spent 8 years trying to clean up the horrible mess that was left for him. He did the best he could. Trump won't care when people start to lose their homes again, their retirement funds, their 401ks, their jobs, etc. He has no interest in it. He won't care about destroying relationships with allies that we've had for decades. He won't care about nuclear warfare being a possibility. He won't care about China perhaps wanting to call in some of our debt early. The man won't care about anything except hearing "Hail to the Chief" whenever he enters a room and hosting State Dinners and showing off Millania. This whole thing is so sad and depressing.

I always knew I liked you, Rapunzel, but this post has officially sealed my utmost LURVE for you.

[inkworks]

I live in Scotland but I just wanted to say that my heart goes out to you guys. I cried a few times yesterday so I can only imagine how you all are feeling.

I'm just so morally outraged.

I just don't understand how people could have chosen this man over Hillary.

Don't they see anything wrong with having a racist president? Having a sexist president? One who has been accused by multiple women of sexually assaulting them? Who admitted on tape that he does what he wants to women without their consent? Who mocks disabled people and wants to ban an entire religion of people? Doesn't this behaviour disgust them?

Even if I agreed with some of his policies, my conscience would never let me vote for him. I couldn't do that to people of colour, to the LGBTQ+ community or to the Muslim community.

Yesterday was a very dark day for humanity.

[HoosierJen]

I went to work yesterday intent on holding it all together, but I was standing in the hallway when the students came in and the first freshman boy who came in off the bus (literally, the very first kid in the building) walked straight up to me and yelled "Ha! In your face! Trump won!" I didn't say a word, but just turned away from him and walked into the teachers' lounge where he couldn't follow me. My co-worker was in there -- one of four Clinton supporters in the entire building -- and she and I just looked at each other and started to cry. It was a very, very rough day at work.

So, today I am taking the day off. I'm going to listen to my Hamilton CD all morning because it makes me happy, and then I am going to drive an hour to the nearest bookstore and just hang out there all afternoon with books and coffee. I feel like I need to be surrounded by words and ideas and the people who enjoy them.

[maraleia]

Here's my ideas for the future-

turn off CNN and MSNBC because they need to suffer for the horrible job they did in "covering" this election

turn to progressive radio instead (suggestion WCPT in Chicago which you can stream online or via the Tune In app)

find progressives in your community and organize and/or join the protests that will likely continue in the streets

do not give him or his administration your time or energy except to fight back and this includes holding the Dems in Congress accountable, don't let them capitulate

ignore everything about a Trump White House except to make sure Melania doesn't ruin what the amazing Michelle started like the garden et al

if you can, run for office or support those who want to with your time, talent and if you can treasure because we have to take back state houses and the governor's mansions across the country and Congress in the next three years

volunteer at places like Planned Parenthood, there are lists of progressive non-profits circulating on twitter and sites like Jezebel

keep amplifying your voice on social media and only pay attention to news sources you trust and this means ignoring your Facebook news feed entirely

if a media outlet or late-night host panders to him and his family boycott them- the first place to start is Jimmy Fallon and People Magazine

also New Balance has endorsed his presidency, do not buy their products and boycott others if they throw their support behind him

tell those who voted for him, a third party or didn't vote at all to unfriend you on Facebook if you have a page there

if you see people living it up in, especially the rich neighborhoods, in your area know they voted for him or didn't vote at all, if you feel comfortable call them out on it

if you are white (like I am) and see white people with smug looks on their faces know they hate you as much as they hate POC because they voted for him and that includes women who backed him with 53 percent of the vote, make sure they know you won't support them when their lives get worse under his administration, they need to suffer for their folly because remember white people will be a minority soon enough

listen to young people who voted for Hillary because they hated him but really only supported her because they didn't want this to happen, they are our future and remember there are more millennials than baby boomers, their voices matter (I'm a Gen X'er and there are way too few of us to matter and we have to live with this knowledge)

keep a watch on your water supply and what's happening with our food supply and the environment above all issues because if we get sick because these things aren't regulated we're all fucked

stock up on plan b and if you can get an IUD to prevent pregnancies because Mike Pence will be going after abortion rights

LGBTQ peeps and our allies stay vigilant about equality and find grassroots organizations to join, ignore the Human Rights Campaign because they suck

I could go on and on but these are the things that are on my mind since Tuesday night

[parisprincess]

Tuesday evening, when I saw where the results were headed, I turned off the TV and went to bed. Yesterday morning when my worst nightmare was confirmed, I made the decision to take a break from Facebook, from the news, and from friends/family who are Trump supporters. To those (no one here) who say "Get over it" or "Time to move on", let me just say this: For over a year, that disgusting piece of shit offended me repeatedly, and now I'm suppose to forget about it in a day or two? When I get past being heartbroken and angry, I'll start thinking about "getting over it". Until then, I'm not ready to sing Kumbaya with the people who helped put that buffoon in the White House, nor am I putting a time limit on how long I need to mourn. Donald Trump will NEVER be MY President. 

[shoregirl]

 I hope everyone at those protests voted especially the ones in Philly ,Miami and New Orleans and any of the other cities where Hillary lost that state. That said, the protests give me hope that people , especially younger people, will get fired up and get involved. 

[NewDigs]

A nod to @maraleia's forward-thinking, we-can-do-it ideas.

Here's the wiki of those who endorsed Trump.

I'm still numb. This has been overwhelming.

So very high to so very very low.

[FuriousStyles]

I live in NYC and work for the state thru which I get my medical coverage and the other benefits you'd typical get with a gov't job. I thank God everyday for this job and after the results of the election I'm even more grateful.  However, the one thing that has been worrying me (if only in the abstract) is terrorism.  I imagine the leaders of Isis or whoever licking their chops at a chance to carry out 9/11 levels of attacks.  Trump's idiocy, complete lack of awareness and yes his TEMPERMENT I fear is going to cost us lives. 

I was watching the news last night as they spoke about how Trump will start being briefed about sensitive foreign policy information and the like and one person who's familiar with the process said that once the president-elect gets a hold of information it often sobers them.  As much as I would love for Trump to fall flat on his ass just to teach all the idiots who voted for him a lesson (because how do you vote for someone you think is unqualified for the job you're voting him for)...on THIS topic I hope he's on his game. 

[molshoop]

47 minutes ago, maraleia said:

find progressives in your community and organize and/or join the protests that will likely continue in the streets

Those protests are worthwhile.  Footage of the protests were sent out all over the world.  Reuters has reported on it. 

People around the world need to know how hated he is by millions of Americans.

Also, Trump is thin skinned.  His ego was fed by all the rallies full of cheering fools.  There wont be any more rallies.

He needs to hear boos every time he is in public.  He needs to see the protests in the streets. 

Make him the one who lives with paranoia and fear, not us.

[Rapunzel]

2 hours ago, walnutqueen said:

I always knew I liked you, Rapunzel, but this post has officially sealed my utmost LURVE for you.

Back at you WalnutQueen!