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  1. ChristmasJones

    Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

    One of my ex-step-brothers had this happen to him. He got a woman pregnant shortly after they moved across the country. They split up, and he spent the next 18 years living in a city he desperately hated, 3,000 miles away from the rest of his family where he grew up. I do give him credit for not abandoning his child though. Shortly after his daughter turned 18, he moved back home.
  2. ChristmasJones

    Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

    What is coming to my mind in light of all this is that the behaviors we are currently seeing in both Janelle and Amber are extremely similar to the behavior we saw very early on in the series. Its almost uncanny how similar they act then and now. Changing dysfunctional behavior patterns is hard work, and takes a lot of motivation. I think its fair to say that they have never had a strong enough motivation to change. The money has only served to provide them material comforts, enhance their desirability as partners, and provide legal protection. It has had no positive effect on the dysfunctional behavior patterns. If they never had the TM income, I think they would still be very close to where they are now, in terms of behavior patterns, and life circumstances (dysfunctional relationships, multiple kids, etc). One further point- I actually think that Janelle and Amber showed the most dysfunctional behavior when the series first started. They have had no substantial treatment, and being on the show has reinforced their behavior. It should be no surprise that they are both acting in very similar ways 10 years later.
  3. ChristmasJones

    Kailyn: Kail Smash!

    Its very easy to understand why Karl would post such a video, and the reason is money. In order to get views on YouTube and other SM, she needs to post dramatic/controversial stuff. I believe she is trying to build up a social media following to replace the income from TM once it ends. There are a lot of very troubled people who now make a living through their YT channels, and do not work regular jobs. If they get enough subscribers, they can do it.
  4. ChristmasJones

    Ryan: What the hell happened to him?

    seems like a good time to revisit this classic
  5. ChristmasJones

    Jenelle: Birther Of 3, Mother To None

    The best thing anyone can do is not click on any article about them, subscribe to any of their social media, or even view their social media. At least if you want to feel that you are doing nothing to help them bring in income (which is a by-product of giving them attention via articles and social media). Go to Reddit and you can see all their social media stuff.. Of course children need parents who bring in income... but these kids would be better served by parents who get "real" jobs and are forced to function appropriately with other adults on a regular basis. Sitting at home making youtube channels , probably while high, is not going to work too well.
  6. ChristmasJones

    Janelle Brown: Smarter Than Your Average Brown (Maybe)

    Not calling you out personally, just using your comment as an example..... this family has been on a national TV show for years now. That is why they don't have to work real jobs. That is why they were able to buy the four homes in Las Vegas. If the Teen Moms can pull in over $350K per year each.... how much do the Browns make? I have no idea how the Browns compare to Teen Mom in terms of what sort of contract they get. Is it lower, is it higher? I've wished for years that a mole who works with one of these companies would leak some actual numbers. Due to fools like us watching these shows, lazy, delusional, shameless assholes get to make money just living their lives. WE the viewers provide them that income.
  7. ChristmasJones

    Janelle Brown: Smarter Than Your Average Brown (Maybe)

    Not to defend Janelle, but one of the reasons people use these cauliflower products in place of bread is because they are trying to keep grains out of their diet. There are many trendy diet fads going on that involve this. Not sure which, if any, Janelle is trying to follow though.
  8. ChristmasJones

    Amber: A Rill Woman Goes to Gel

    I will take this one step further. I am extremely annoyed at how pervasive the word "shame" has become thanks to social media (also the words narcissist and sociopath). IMO, these terms have become so widely used, and applied in so many different situations, they are almost meaningless. If not entirely meaningless, then at least completely non-specific. Also, it wasn't until the past few years (mainly through social media) that I ever heard a phrase like "he shamed me" or "stop shaming me." I always thought of shame as an internal emotion, a feeling one has about oneself. There is healthy shame, when you realize (or someone points out) that you did something you shouldn't, and unhealthy shame, when you are too critical of yourself. Its internal. If someone calls me ugly, I might feel bad about myself, I might feel ashamed. This sense of shame might be triggered from something external, but its an internal experience. But we now have thousands of people screaming "you're shaming me!!!!!!" any time another person says something to them they don't like. The word shame no longer just means an internal experience, its become a behavior. Why don't folks say, "you're critising me" or "you're judging me" or "you're putting me down" .... its as if that isn't "bad" enough, so they have to use the word SHAME because it makes it all sound sooo much worse - like, how dare someone SHAME another person. Oh, the horror! Maybe its just laziness, and its easier to lump behaviors such as judging, criticizing, name-calling, putting down, and disagreeing into one simple word- shame, and then just use it when referring to those different behaviors. Maybe because everyone is typing on smart phones its just easier to lump all those long words into a short one. I think that may be part of why this has happened. But I also think there is a lot of ignorance and lack of critical thinking mixed in as well. These terms have become trendy, and used by people who rely on self-help memes on instagram to cope with their lives rather than go to therapy. Even if you couldn't afford therapy, you used to have to actually read a self-help book to learn these terms. But we now have a generation of people whose only exposure to these concepts is through social media memes. I think that is the root of the issue.
  9. ChristmasJones

    S04.E09: The Truth Comes Out

    Finally watched. Re: Axl I wonder how he will feel growing up knowing his birth, including his mother's naked body, were filmed and broadcast, and will be forever available to watch on the internet. I could see in Roos's face, in the TH's, after his son's birth, a look of despair. Deep down he knows that a baby is not going to fix anything... because the problem is Pao's personality. I have no sympathy for him though.... bed made and all that. Why does Chantal's mother speak so strangely? Its really weird and annoying. She speaks like she is talking to a toddler for whom English is a second language and is partially deaf.
  10. ChristmasJones

    Gary: The original Belden Lineman

    I think Gary will make a great cop. He has had years of experience dealing with Amber... I'm not joking when I say that has given him a lot of practice dealing with angry and irrational people.
  11. ChristmasJones

    Gary: The original Belden Lineman

    He definitely looks like he has lost some weight too. Once he starts working, he'll probably lose even more.
  12. ChristmasJones

    Gary: The original Belden Lineman

    Gary is a police officer!
  13. ChristmasJones

    All Episodes Talk: Crime And Punishment

    I was wondering if they could have entered the locations of the attacks into the GPS monitoriing system, and then see who had been in any/all of those locations. So searching by location first rather than by offender first. But like you.. don't know if the system has that capacity.
  14. ChristmasJones

    Kailyn: Kail Smash!

    I'm not so sure all these folks will fade away when TM ends..... after all Kate G has her own dating show.
  15. ChristmasJones

    The McGees

    Its weird... by watching people on these shows, in some ways, you start to feel like you know them. I mean, not really, of course, but in some way we do know them. We see glimpses into their private lives (as filtered through reality tv production). Its very sad he died at such a young age, when he also had young children.