FuriousStyles November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 For the white women feeling terrible today....just came across this Huff Post article that might sum up the feeling of shame. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_582341c9e4b0aac62488970e Though, personally I think we're all to blame. Blacks didnt come out in the numbers we needed to. The hispanic vote....IDK where they were. I didnt hear about them all night and they were the ones that was supposed to drive Trump out of town. Young people....must have gotten sidetracked with the latest challenge on instagram. Hillary got 5 million less votes than Obama got in 2012 and 9 million less than what he got in 2008. Hillary can take some of the blame too. Last night CNN said she had not stepped foot in Wisconsin since her nomination because the campaign was soo sure they had it in the bag. Not saying a visit or 2 would have changed the outcome but thats just the sort of arrogance that cost her (much like setting up a private email server against the advice of top level people). 6 Link to comment
Quilt Fairy November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) Well, I now have a small supply of valium on hand and the first one went down the hatch a few minutes ago. They're only 5mg, so it may take a few to get me mellow. (I should have asked the doctor for 10mg, she was willing.) Earlier this morning I was playing on my Kindle trying to forget the world and my hands started shaking so badly I couldn't hold the stylus. I certainly didn't vote for McCain or Romney but I think I would have felt disappointment if they had won but not the despair I feel right now. I also made a donation to Planned Parenthood, heaven knows they're going to need the money. Edited November 9, 2016 by Quilt Fairy 13 Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Quote Look for those of you who voted for Hilary, this is not the time to lay down and die. This is the time to rise up and fight (not literal violence). The Democrats have got to take responsibility where things went wrong. If our foremothers and forefathers just said, "well slavery and misogyny is just the way it is and curled up in a ball and hid, think about where we would be? Women and minorities would not have the vote and every inch of respect earned has and will always be a fight. When I hear of Trump supporters harassing voters, I am like where are the Dems protecting their constituents? Don't just say get out and vote, help organize buses and other things so the disenfranchised can be heard. I live in a red state and do you know why, because liberal strongholds are much too expensive for regular people. I just read a story about a 66 year old woman, who earned a six figure salary in San Francisco now being homeless, because she can no longer afford rent in the city. She is a single woman and has proudly supported herself her whole life and is being thrown into the streets by this supposedly liberal and progressive town. Get all the rage and sorrow out of your system the next few days. After that this is not the time to be emotional, it is the time to be strategic and smart. THANK YOU. Again, I'm vacillating back and forth wildly today between hope and misery. I also made myself a matcha latte and now I don't know if I can take ibuprofen for my headache because of the sprained ankle/bruising situation. I am not leaving the house today. But I am talking to you. And I will take a shower. And I will do the little things I need to do to make it through so I can fight another day. Update, they're gloating to each other and their TV friends but at least my parents aren't gloating to me when I'm in the room. Also, Fox Business is doing it's best but NO, THIS IS NOT MY NEW NORMAL. Making this acceptable got us into this mess in the first place. 4 Link to comment
GaT November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 17 minutes ago, MulletorHater said: Right. Contrast that with the butt hurt rage that manifested itself before Hillary was even in danger of being elected. I won't forget the assassination threats by Drumpf's more rabid supporters or the threats of sedition by GOP lawmakers who were hellbent on derailing her would-be presidency. Never mind the assassination threats by his supporters, he was basically making them himself. 16 Link to comment
Popular Post WendyCR72 November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 I will just say this. And if it comes across as unAmerican, so be it. But I will say this without cursing and without insults: Donald Trump is not my president. He will never be my president. And this is okay because this same creed has been used for the last 8 years towards the current administration. And free speech prevails. Good luck, America. I'll say a prayer and hope we live to see 2020. 58 Link to comment
random chance November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, Pixel said: I really don't believe there was any (or much) fraud or rigging, outside of the constant attention and legitimacy given Trump by the media. I think there was a gross underestimation of the level of unrest and bigotry that Trump was able to tap into. I don't think Bernie could have won either. I don't know who could have. At this point, after watching what happened last night, I'm not even sure that Obama (were he allowed to run a third time) could have beat him. Now, in hindsight, I don't think anyone could have beaten him. He's some kind of Svengali. 14 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said: For the white women feeling terrible today....just came across this Huff Post article that might sum up the feeling of shame. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_582341c9e4b0aac62488970eer against the advice of top level people). Did you post that because you wanted me to feel even MORE terrible? Also, I did vote. Spent $50 in uber fare to do it too, in a red state where she had no hope of winning. 4 Link to comment
BetyBee November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said: I will just say this. And if it comes across as unAmerican, so be it. But I will say this without cursing and without insults: Donald Trump is not my president. He will never be my president. And this is okay because this same creed has been used for the last 8 years towards the current administration. And free speech prevails. Good luck, America. I'll say a prayer and hope we live to see 2020. This. And he is not my president and never will be. How I dread going back to work tomorrow and seeing all those smug, hateful faces. I really hope we live to see 2020 :( 17 Link to comment
Grommet November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) Finally coming out of my just-can't-stand-it bunker. I'm glad to see you're all still here and are using this as a place to process what's happened. I'm going to spend the next couple of weeks getting used to my new hip (which is fucking fantastic, I must say), binge-watching whatever I can find on Netflix and Amazon, and learning how to make fancy French macarons. I'll try to keep compassion in mind when I think about Trump supporters but I'm glad I don't have to deal with any directly right now. Because, sweet baby cheesus, what the fuck. ETA: Women!!! What the fuck is wrong with my gender?? Edited November 9, 2016 by Grommet 15 Link to comment
mjc570 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I am still wearing my "Stronger together" T-shirt (we need it more than ever) and I plan to keep my Clinton/Kaine lawn sign up as long as possible. Not that I'll need any reminders, but still . . . . 4 Link to comment
Popular Post MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 4 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said: I will just say this. And if it comes across as unAmerican, so be it. But I will say this without cursing and without insults: Donald Trump is not my president. He will never be my president. And this is okay because this same creed has been used for the last 8 years towards the current administration. And free speech prevails. Good luck, America. I'll say a prayer and hope we live to see 2020. I said the same thing this morning. I will not, nor will I ever accept Donald Drumpf as my president or his mail order bride as FLOTUS. I will show him just as much respect for the office as he and his cohorts, enablers and collaborators did during the 8 years President Obama was in the White House. #NotMyPresident #NeverTrump 25 Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I cursed out the crazy lady sending me emails. I have had enough. My parents have enough love for me to know I can't this right now. She is a garbage disposal and I cannot have her in my life anymore. 3 Link to comment
Popular Post galax-arena November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 You just know that all the people who insisted on voting for Trump because they're single issue voters when it comes to abortion and those precious babiiiieeeeessssss would be getting secret abortions by the dozen if we had an in utero test that could detect whether a fetus would end up gay. 34 Link to comment
Janet Snakehole November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 A reality show star won. Kanye's 2020 bid does not seem so farfetched anymore. 16 Link to comment
Ohwell November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I survived GWB; I will survive DJT. 1 minute ago, Janet Snakehole said: A reality show star won. Kanye's 2020 bid does not seem so farfetched anymore. Yeah, why the fuck not? 2 Link to comment
backgroundnoise November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Regarding Trump's plans for the economy: Ok, now put up or shut up. If he really does put coal miners and factory workers back to work at above minimum wage, I'll be the first to admit his plan worked. As long as nonwhites also benefit from these millions of jobs too. BUT, what I don't want to see happen and think will: All the lies he's told will just be forgotten about. Voter fraud, for example. Nothing will be done about voter fraud because it doesn't exist. Somehow, he needs to be held accountable for that whopper, but he won't be. 13 Link to comment
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, Janet Snakehole said: A reality show star won. Kanye's 2020 bid does not seem so farfetched anymore. Right down to foisting a plastic homemade tape porn star turned wife on us as FLOTUS. Of course, her pet cause will be eliminating famewhoring. Since our standards are already in the gutter, we might as well go all the way. 7 Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I love this man. No one has as of yet offered me the kind of assurance that can bring my happiness back. But that is why it's ever more important to nurture that little light inside and make sure it never goes out. Have hope. Have faith. Know that a little seed can grow into a great big tree with extensive roots and branches. But only if we plant it. Today we mourn. Tomorrow we regroup. And soon, when were called upon to do so, we must stand firm and fight in the best way we know how. 3 Link to comment
SmithW6079 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 12 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said: And free speech prevails. For now. 13 Link to comment
FuriousStyles November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 minutes ago, random chance said: Now, in hindsight, I don't think anyone could have beaten him. He's some kind of Svengali. Did you post that because you wanted me to feel even MORE terrible? Also, I did vote. Spent $50 in uber fare to do it too, in a red state where she had no hope of winning. Lol.... not at all. Ive been reading this thread all day long and Ive seen various posts from white women saying they feel ashamed or embarrased. Then I came across this Huff Post article basically saying the same thing. Like I said....we ALL can take a big piece of the blame pie. No demographic is immune this time around. We all fucked up. What bugs me is...I can kind of understand not voting for Hillary. Like I said in one of my earlier posts, I thought about not voting for her too (but thought better of it eventually). But what I cant understand is how any black, hispanic or woman could vote FOR Trump. I think something like 13% of black men voted for Trump. Why? The article I linked said 53% of white women voted for Trump. Why? How can you vote for someone that doesnt even respect you on a basic human level. 10 Link to comment
Popular Post SonofaBiscuit November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 I felt pretty good going into this election. Of course I voted, and I made sure that my family members voted (for Hillary). We had too much to lose if we didn't. But when they started saying that all of the "battle-ground" states were too close to call last night, I got this sick feeling in my stomach. I went to bed at midnight and woke up at 3 am, shivering (anxiety level 11). My gawd, what have we done?! I'm not upset that a Republican won. I'm fucking terrified that Donald Trump won. What the hell is our future going to look like? As a woman, I'm worried about the government ripping away my right to choose what I do with my body. I'm worried for my mother who lives on social security and savings. Will we have to watch the economy circle the drain again? I'm worried about my taxes increasing, I'm worried about $4 a gallon gas, I'm worried about millions of people losing their health insurance, I'm worried about unemployment skyrocketing, I'm worried for the safety of POC, I'm worried about families being ripped apart, I'm worried about a fucking nuclear war. It feels like every good thing that happened in the last eight years is going to burn to the ground, and there's no way to stop it because Republicans have control of everything now. God, this is depressing. 32 Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Quote Right down to foisting a plastic homemade tape porn star turned wife on us as FLOTUS. Of course, her pet cause will be eliminating famewhoring. I can't. I can't go here. It was a wonderful, beautiful thing that the first vote I cast for president in my lifetime was for a woman. Just because I hate this man and what he represents, I can't start slutshaming his wife. I can't attack her appearance. I may hate what she is supporting by her "stand by her man" position but I'm not going to attack her for being a woman. I'm not going backwards. I have been making a concerted effort to excise certain words and thoughts from my daily life. Attacking other women just deepens the hold internalized misogyny has on our society. I may dislike things she does as a person but I will not attack her for the ways in which she is female or has suffered/profited in exploiting a patriarchal system. Instead, I want to focus on building up a more diverse, empowered image of what women can be both in real life (Senators, artists, businesswomen, students, etc.) and in fiction. Perhaps I will get some writing done when my head feels like it's not about to roll off my neck. Maybe if I can get my shit together one day I can call myself one of those women. 14 Link to comment
ratgirlagogo November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 (edited) Prexy Trump is a disaster, no doubt. But I'll tell you I was MUCH more depressed when Reagan won the SECOND time, back in 1984. I could understand how people might be fooled into voting for a radical-right-wing movie actor once - but TWICE???? after they'd already seen what he was like? That was bad. I had friends that left the USA because of it. And you know what? It didn't last forever, did it? I can say in the words of Adrienne Rich that "a wild patience has taken me this far" and that's what we all have to remember. I also loved Tim Kaine's quote from William Faulkner: "they kilt us, but they didn't whup us." Trump's a nightmare, but he's just one guy. This is depressing, but none of this is over. Not unless we give up. Edited November 9, 2016 by ratgirlagogo 9 Link to comment
Keepitmoving November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 48 minutes ago, FuriousStyles said: For the white women feeling terrible today....just came across this Huff Post article that might sum up the feeling of shame. http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_582341c9e4b0aac62488970e Though, personally I think we're all to blame. Blacks didnt come out in the numbers we needed to. The hispanic vote....IDK where they were. I didnt hear about them all night and they were the ones that was supposed to drive Trump out of town. Young people....must have gotten sidetracked with the latest challenge on instagram. Hillary got 5 million less votes than Obama got in 2012 and 9 million less than what he got in 2008. Hillary can take some of the blame too. Last night CNN said she had not stepped foot in Wisconsin since her nomination because the campaign was soo sure they had it in the bag. Not saying a visit or 2 would have changed the outcome but thats just the sort of arrogance that cost her (much like setting up a private email server against the advice of top level people). Well I listen to black radio and apparently the black men can sit in the basket with this demographic because they said he got a substantial percentage of the black male vote. By the way, this didn't surprise me at all, that fake snake oil, salesman preacher Daryl Scott surrogate that Trump had is all you need to know. There were a ton of misogynist, homophobic black men just like him, crime bill my ass. 4 Link to comment
Bastet November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I just got an email from Vanguard inviting investors to a live video webcast this evening on how the election (specifying Trump's presidency and Republican control of Congress) may affect portfolios. (No thanks; I'm depressed enough.) I don't remember ever getting something like that following any other election, and certainly not something the next day with language in it meant to calm down frightened people. 3 Link to comment
Sakura12 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I love how the Trump Supporters were screaming about Hillary being corrupt when we now have a President Elect that is going to trial for Fraud over his fake University where he conned hundreds of people out of their hard earned money. 12 Link to comment
Constantinople November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Perhaps Trump will show a sense of humor and appoint Ted Cruz as Ambassador to Canada. Speaking of, last night's results eliminates whatever slim hopes Ted Cruz or Marcio Rubio had for the 2020 Republican nomination. Of course, they'll still both be younger than Trump is now in the 2040 election. 5 Link to comment
Keepitmoving November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Bastet said: I just got an email from Vanguard inviting investors to a live video webcast this evening on how the election (specifying Trump's presidency and Republican control of Congress) may affect portfolios. (No thanks; I'm depressed enough.) I don't remember ever getting something like that following any other election, and certainly not something the next day with language in it meant to calm down frightened people. OMG, LOL, me too, I'm not opening it. I refuse to look at my accounts. 2 Link to comment
backgroundnoise November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 NOW is the time for Melania Trump to champion a crusade against cyberbullying. Or will that be another thing conveniently forgotten about by the media? 4 Link to comment
jalady November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Thank you all for being here. I'm experiencing many of the same emotions: depression, fear, anger, shock. I also stayed at home today because I feel physically ill. It's nice to know there are thoughtful, like minded souls out there. I cried during her concession speech, but I'm determined to put it behind me and work towards a better America. And I work for DOJ, y'all. So you know who my new boss might be. *shudders* 17 Link to comment
AliShibaz November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 5 hours ago, HumblePi said: thanks for doing that. I tried to google homes in Cape Breton and kept getting a 'connection was reset' notice. I tried other websites for Canadian properties and the same thing. Then I went to other various websites not at all related to Canada or homes and they all pulled up fine, it was only the Canadian property links when blank when I clicked on one. Oh, and they look expensive but keep in mind the Canadian dollar is only worth 74% of the US dollar, that's why people are planning to relocate there. Remember the Canadian Dollar is worth about 75% of a US dollar. Link to comment
Pixel November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 2 minutes ago, Keepitmoving said: OMG, LOL, me too, I'm not opening it. I refuse to look at my accounts. I looked at my accounts. They are unscathed. I think there wasn't as much fallout in the markets as early feedback led us to think there would be. Link to comment
Popular Post WendyCR72 November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, ratgirlagogo said: Trump's a nightmare, but he's just one guy. But he also has Republican House and Senate backing. Which likely allows him great freedom. And that? PETRIFIES ME. 25 Link to comment
ebk57 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 11 minutes ago, ratgirlagogo said: I also loved Tim Kaine's quote from William Faulkner: "they kilt us, but they didn't whup us." I first read this as William Shatner and was trying to figure out which episode that quote came from... Still going out to drink Italian wine tonight. My brother in Italy says I can come live with him, but I think we'll be okay...at some point. And for the folks who were worried and haven't listened to the news today (I didn't turn it on until about an hour ago), the market was up bigly today. So go ahead and open those Vanguard emails. We're okay in that department, at least for today. 1 Link to comment
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 9 minutes ago, aradia22 said: I can't. I can't go here. It was a wonderful, beautiful thing that the first vote I cast for president in my lifetime was for a woman. Just because I hate this man and what he represents, I can't start slutshaming his wife. I can't attack her appearance. I may hate what she is supporting by her "stand by her man" position but I'm not going to attack her for being a woman. I'm not going backwards. I have been making a concerted effort to excise certain words and thoughts from my daily life. Attacking other women just deepens the hold internalized misogyny has on our society. I may dislike things she does as a person but I will not attack her for the ways in which she is female or has suffered/profited in exploiting a patriarchal system. Instead, I want to focus on building up a more diverse, empowered image of what women can be both in real life (Senators, artists, businesswomen, students, etc.) and in fiction. Perhaps I will get some writing done when my head feels like it's not about to roll off my neck. Maybe if I can get my shit together one day I can call myself one of those women. Of course, you're right. I'm just so disgusted by the fact that Drumpf and his despicable family are moving into the White House. And, yes, that includes his massively dense wife, Melania, who is just as despicable as her husband is. It has nothing to do with her standing by her man; she's despicable in her own right. So when people start talking about Kanye, I criticize his wife within the context of how we went from having the Obamas in the White House to the Drumpf family moving in. That people somewhere want to make a possible Kanye run for the White House "a thing" simply appalls me. 8 Link to comment
ratgirlagogo November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 He doesn't have the hearts and minds of the population. I know it's hard to think this far in advance but that's going to count against him big time in terms of actually carrying out all those wackjob ideas. 6 Link to comment
SonofaBiscuit November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, ratgirlagogo said: Trump's a nightmare, but he's just one guy. This is depressing, but none of this is over. Not unless we give up. He's just one guy, but he's got the power of the Senate and House behind him. I'm afraid of how much damage they can do before this IS over. 3 minutes ago, Bastet said: I just got an email from Vanguard inviting investors to a live video webcast this evening on how the election (specifying Trump's presidency and Republican control of Congress) may affect portfolios. (No thanks; I'm depressed enough.) I don't remember ever getting something like that following any other election, and certainly not something the next day with language in it meant to calm down frightened people. We got an email at work about "The election's impact on healthcare reform" (aka Goodbye, Obamacare). 5 Link to comment
Bean421 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 3 minutes ago, WendyCR72 said: But he also has Republican House and Senate backing. Which likely allows him great freedom. And that? PETRIFIES ME. THIS. This so much. I want to shake people who are trying to tell me, "We have checks and balances." No. We had that but decided to piss it away for two crucial years. 18 Link to comment
MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 minute ago, WendyCR72 said: But he also has Republican House and Senate backing. Which likely allows him great freedom. And that? PETRIFIES ME. Not to mention his elevating his loyal surrogates to cabinet positions. There was even talk of his elevating Corey Lewandowski as RNC Chair. I won't even talk about Bannon and his influence. As for the GOP House and Senate, they will fall in line and do his bidding especially since their constituents back home put him in office. That's why so many of them flipflopped when they "repudiated" him after the Access Hollywood tape. Their constituents back home weren't having it. Plus his VP Pence will be charged with compiling a short list of Supreme Court nominees. 9 Link to comment
ratgirlagogo November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Just now, Bean421 said: I want to shake people who are trying to tell me, "We have checks and balances." Yes, I know. That's why we can't leave something so important to those people. There's more to politics than electoral politics and although it would have been easier to hold Hillary's feet to the fire Trump is going to discover what every President before him has discovered - he can't just ignore us. 1 Link to comment
ABay November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 A lot of people were on the verge of tears at work today while the students appeared to be blissfully unaware of just how bad their lives are going to get. Please do go about your normal business and ignore that seventh seal breaching over there. Now I'm home and I can't bear to turn on the TV. The worst of this will pass eventually but right now I just want to seek asylum anywhere that isn't here. 7 Link to comment
Popular Post needschocolate November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 I kept waiting for Karma to show up, and she never did. The Senate republicans refused to let the sitting president chose a Supreme Court justice and, if Karma showed up, they would have lost the Senate majority and gotten a Dem president and regret that they didn't take Obama's choice. If Karma had showed up the Trump group would have lost because of their lying and cheating and bullying. I don't expect Karma to show up and have the Reps in congress stand up to Trump and his idiotic ideas. So, now, my only hope is that Karma will show up when all those Trump supporters figure out that he never really meant to do any of the things he promised (it was only a figurative wall, he can't lock Hillay up, he ends up being guilty of fraud and shows who the real criminal is, etc) an they see him for who he really is. I hate hypocrisy and I hate when the bad guys (the bullies, the racists, the homophobes, etc) win. 27 Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 I feel like so many of us are tired and depressed and exhausted. But there is another way. There is hope and love. And we can choose it. I will nurture my hopes for myself and our country and the world. The hope that we can be better. The hopes that minds will eventually change. The hope that we will see this through. I will act out of love and compassion and not fear and hatred. When I fight it will be with love in my heart for those who need it most. And because it has been FAR TOO LONG since the last adorable animal... 11 Link to comment
Archery November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 13 minutes ago, ABay said: A lot of people were on the verge of tears at work today while the students appeared to be blissfully unaware of just how bad their lives are going to get. Please do go about your normal business and ignore that seventh seal breaching over there. I work in a federal office. Just about everyone was in today, but the halls were silent as the grave. And in other news, as of January 20, my 22 year career will end, as I CANNOT stand in any courtroom and say that I represent this administration. I can't do it. 22 Link to comment
anyanka323 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 3 hours ago, potatoradio said: Yeah, I might need some happy pills to keep functioning for a little while. I can't even pretend to "go high" right now. I talked to my parents in Michigan and they said, "well, I guess now our goal is to live long enough to vote again in 2020 and get things back on track." Seriously, WTF, Michigan and Wisconsin? Yes, sure, the orange menace will take all those scary minorities away and then you'll feel "cared about"? Seriously - f*ck you. I apologized to my sister on behalf of Wisconsin today. She knows I did my part and Madison went for HRC. Then again, this is the same person who wanted to modify the Wisconsin plates on her car from "America's Dairyland" to "Land of the Dumbasses" while she worked out in Maryland as a civilian Army contractor after Walker was reelected in 2014. She was disappointed in Michigan but pleased that Ann Arbor went blue. I really don't know what the Democrats can do to woo back the working class voters who voted for Trump. I really don't think many of them realize that the Tea Party GOPers who came into office after 2010 made the unemployment safety net much less secure than it was for those who benefited between 2008 and 2010. It's also been made much more difficult to apply and keep EBT (food stamps) since then as well. Housing assistance in the form of Section 8 vouchers have always been tough to get. My worst fear is that the combination of his election and his economic policies will reverse any economic gains made under Obama, thus bring the recession back. Most lack the self awareness that their own voting patterns created this problem and they are partially to blame. 7 Link to comment
Maximum Taco November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Janet Snakehole said: A reality show star won. Kanye's 2020 bid does not seem so farfetched anymore. Wait is this really a thing? I literally cannot wait for "I'm with Yeezus" election swag. 2 Link to comment
Syd November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 3 hours ago, Danny Franks said: Good luck with that whole gay rights thing, with Pence in effective charge. I don't need any gay rights. I have the same rights as you, assuming you are an American. Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Quote I don't need any gay rights. I have the same rights as you, assuming you are an American. Keep telling yourself about your American rights. 10 Link to comment
Jynnan tonnix November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 Some three months ago, my husband, retired from the Navy, was offered two jobs out of the blue at virtually the same time. One was in Virginia, the other in Nova Scotia. Of course, Nova Scotia was a far more exciting prospect, but since selling our house in Connecticut and both moving was not an option for a variety of reasons, we finally decided that the logistics of maintaining two households and commuting back and forth for brief visits every few weeks combined with Canadian/Nova Scotia taxes (each takes their own hefty share) did not make the Nova Scotia job really tenable...we'd end up clearing very little on it when all was said and done, so he accepted the job in Virginia. We joked, at the time, that we'd end up regretting it if Trump was elected...It really was not even on our radar that this was a real possibility. But it is actually becoming a real regret. 14 Link to comment
Popular Post MulletorHater November 9, 2016 Popular Post Share November 9, 2016 22 minutes ago, ABay said: A lot of people were on the verge of tears at work today while the students appeared to be blissfully unaware of just how bad their lives are going to get. Please do go about your normal business and ignore that seventh seal breaching over there. Now I'm home and I can't bear to turn on the TV. The worst of this will pass eventually but right now I just want to seek asylum anywhere that isn't here. I don't even know how I managed to get out of bed this morning, but I was like a robot and everything seemed so surreal after a fitful night where I didn't really sleep at all. I had described elsewhere how eerily quiet my commute was this morning. I live in D.C. and got the subway to work. My subway car was full, but you would have never known it. There was this deathly silence and this sense of doom over nearly everyone. People were either looking at their phones or staring blankly into space. The few smiles I did get seemed forced. It was worse than Monday mornings after our football team suffers a humiliating loss the day before. Some people just looked tired and were clearly going through the motions as they processed what happened last night. It's that look people get when they have been warned that the apocalypse is coming, but they didn't quite believe it. And, then it came. If everyone had a thought bubble over their heads, it would have read, "We..are...so...FUCKED!" I work in a small all-female boutique firm, and it's like a ghost town after a nuclear blast. Everyone looks hollow-eyed and anxious. Now, I must go home and do what I can to avoid all news and infotainment shows for the next several weeks. Thank goodness for MeTV, Cozi and other retro TV stations. Plus, I can stream shows and movies on my Kindle Fire. My church even announced it was having a prayer vigil at 7 p.m. I may actually venture there. 26 Link to comment
aradia22 November 9, 2016 Share November 9, 2016 And for the nth time, Social Justice Warrior is not an insult. Feminist is not a bad word. 18 Link to comment
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