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Oh he'd never clean toilets. He'd probably spend a lot of time talking to the toilet, telling it about how great he is and how he doesn't understand why his life never worked out the way he wanted it to. The Jeremy version of "I could have been a contender!" But with more hair gel, fountain pens, designer doughnuts, and pocket squares. 

But clean the toilet?! That's what Jinger's for, don't you know. 

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18 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

I often wonder if Jerm has been trying to get roles in commercials or other hollywood parts.  Does being on a reality show give the actors the needed "cards" or credentials  to get other gigs?

It wouldn't surprise me at all if he has. In fact, I'd be shocked if he didn't have head shots taken, especially when he first got to L.A. 

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2 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

I often wonder if Jerm has been trying to get roles in commercials or other hollywood parts.  Does being on a reality show give the actors the needed "cards" or credentials  to get other gigs?

I'm pretty sure SAG doesn't recognize reality TV participation as qualifying for membership.

I'm on board the Fauci train, too.  There is nothing more charming than a humble, brilliant science guy, IMO.  I feel like I helped discover him.  I saw him speak at a conference a number of years back and was very impressed with him then.  He did a lot of the work on Gardasil, the vaccine that protects against HPV and cervical cancer.

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7 minutes ago, doodlebug said:

I'm pretty sure SAG doesn't recognize reality TV participation as qualifying for membership.

Just googling it, it appears reality TV stars don't have a union and aren't eligible for SAG-AFTRA. So even though they may be the "breakout stars", RFP and Jinger are not unionized. Google can answer anything, I swear!

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7 hours ago, Zella said:

It baffles me too. I've never seen anyone else in grad school have so much leisure time. 

I think it's perfectly reasonable that "studying" for a "masters" degree in "preaching" or whatever the hell he's doing would leave him with plenty of leisure time.  He's not doing any real scholarship. He might as well get a PhD in creationism while he's at it.

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1 hour ago, iwantcookies said:

Actually McArthur might plan for Jeremy to get arrested/take the fall for something illegal. Why is he nice to Jeremy? After all There is no free lunch. There has to be a catch!

Ooh, I like this take. I'll take it a step further--McArthur is planning to use Jeremy as his fall guy, and Jeremy is planning on taking over when McArthur falls, sort of like what Jerry Falwell did to the Bakers.

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10 minutes ago, lascuba said:

 

I think it's perfectly reasonable that "studying" for a "masters" degree in "preaching" or whatever the hell he's doing would leave him with plenty of leisure time.  He's not doing any real scholarship. He might as well get a PhD in creationism while he's at it.

But if he's supposed to be doing all of the language work required in the program, that would be a significant time commitment even if the other classes were blow off classes. 

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2 minutes ago, Zella said:

But if he's supposed to be doing all of the language work required in the program, that would be a significant time commitment even if the other classes were blow off classes. 

True, but I've always found it really  hard to believe that the language requirement is truly vigorous. I imagine it's at the level of your average American high school Spanish class. They learn the basics of conjugation and some vocabulary and promptly forget everything except "hola" and " donde está el baño?"

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7 minutes ago, lascuba said:

True, but I've always found it really  hard to believe that the language requirement is truly vigorous. I imagine it's at the level of your average American high school Spanish class. They learn the basics of conjugation and some vocabulary and promptly forget everything except "hola" and " donde está el baño?"

Yeah I would think they probably don't attain an actual fluency. It might be somewhat similar to the language work I took in grad school, which was nowhere near as extensive (consisted of a semester versus years) but prioritized reading over speaking. 

The end result was I could read very basic sentences and simple paragraphs in French, but I didn't know how to pronounce anything, and when I tried, the redneck hick accent I've never had came roaring to life. 🤣 

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25 minutes ago, lascuba said:

True, but I've always found it really  hard to believe that the language requirement is truly vigorous. I imagine it's at the level of your average American high school Spanish class. They learn the basics of conjugation and some vocabulary and promptly forget everything except "hola" and " donde está el baño?"

All I remember from 3 years of Spanish.

Hola! Como te llamas? Donde esta la biblioteca? 
Agua

and that is it 🤣🤣🤣

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28 minutes ago, lascuba said:

True, but I've always found it really  hard to believe that the language requirement is truly vigorous. I imagine it's at the level of your average American high school Spanish class. They learn the basics of conjugation and some vocabulary and promptly forget everything except "hola" and " donde está el baño?"

They do have to read and translate bible texts. And try to interpret them -- and sort through various theologians' interpretations of the texts -- as part of their sermon planning and some of their courses.

I'm sure most of them don't do it well. But even trying to do it at a low level isn't easy if you take it at all seriously. And I expect that many of them do take it seriously. They're not doing conversational ancient Greek and Hebrew, like a Spanish 1 student. 

Jer's a pompous dumb-ass who imagines he cares about intellectual things when he doesn't give a flying crap about them really. And who knows that he's President's Pet because he's on tv and has a lot of social media followers, so he can get away with blowing everything off.

But just because he is doesn't mean all the other guys are.

I expect that just about everyone who signs up for that curriculum does care and does try. Because there are plenty of seminaries where they wouldn't have to take most of those courses -- especially the languages, which would be electives and not requirements at practically all the other seminaries today.   

Just because they take it seriously doesn't mean they're all up to the job, of course.  But it also doesn't mean they're lazy posturing idiots looking at a curriculum that's super-simple meaningless garbage. I've been an atheist since I was a child, and yet I've studied ancient Greek and the bible (among other religious texts) as well as a ton of theology. And it's not easy stuff to comprehend. And even for an atheist, I think it's important, since religion has been such a huge part of human life forever. .... 

I expect that most of the guys in the seminary try in good faith to do the stuff, because for one reason or another, it is important to them. And that is work. Whether you're able to do it well or whether you struggle. 

Notice that we never ever see Jer with any fellow students or hear a damn word about them.  I expect part of the reason for that is that most of them actually try to tackle the substantial amount of work they're assigned, so they don't have time or money for gourmet-burger-joint hopping. (Plus, they probably aren't thrilled with his pet status. While he thinks they're annoying dweebs who aren't up to his standards.)

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5 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

I often wonder if Jerm has been trying to get roles in commercials or other hollywood parts.  Does being on a reality show give the actors the needed "cards" or credentials  to get other gigs?

I would not be the least bit surprised to hear that he’s been trying to get his foot in the door in Hollywood!

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14 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

They do have to read and translate bible texts. And try to interpret them -- and sort through various theologians' interpretations of the texts -- as part of their sermon planning and some of their courses.

I'm sure most of them don't do it well. But even trying to do it at a low level isn't easy if you take it at all seriously. And I expect that many of them do take it seriously. They're not doing conversational ancient Greek and Hebrew, like a Spanish 1 student. 

Jer's a pompous dumb-ass who imagines he cares about intellectual things when he doesn't give a flying crap about them really. And who knows that he's President's Pet because he's on tv and has a lot of social media followers, so he can get away with blowing everything off.

But just because he is doesn't mean all the other guys are.

I expect that just about everyone who signs up for that curriculum does care and does try. Because there are plenty of seminaries where they wouldn't have to take most of those courses -- especially the languages, which would be electives and not requirements at practically all the other seminaries today.   

Just because they take it seriously doesn't mean they're all up to the job, of course.  But it also doesn't mean they're lazy posturing idiots looking at a curriculum that's super-simple meaningless garbage. I've been an atheist since I was a child, and yet I've studied ancient Greek and the bible (among other religious texts) as well as a ton of theology. And it's not easy stuff to comprehend. And even for an atheist, I think it's important, since religion has been such a huge part of human life forever. .... 

I expect that most of the guys in the seminary try in good faith to do the stuff, because for one reason or another, it is important to them. And that is work. Whether you're able to do it well or whether you struggle. 

Notice that we never ever see Jer with any fellow students or hear a damn word about them.  I expect part of the reason for that is that most of them actually try to tackle the substantial amount of work they're assigned, so they don't have time or money for gourmet-burger-joint hopping. (Plus, they probably aren't thrilled with his pet status. While he thinks they're annoying dweebs who aren't up to his standards.)

I think there's a stark line between biblical study as anthropology and biblical study for effective sermonizing. To be more precise, I do not believe, for a second, that MacArthur's particular flavor of Christianity is at all compatible with caring about translating text instead of just going with the accepted translations they've been using for however long. Being able to translate original biblical texts on their own would mean learning that they're wrong about a lot of what they've always believed the bible said.

I don't trust these people at all and until an outside expert on those languages confirm that the seminary is legitimately teaching them, I'm not buying it. Jeremy's a grade A brown noser but I don't think that's enough to let him get away with so little effort in classes that are supposed to be challenging.

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Agreed that Jer seems to be doing school with absolutely no effort. And he's joyless with no charisma in the pulpit. Thank goodness he's apparently getting this education comped, because I don't think he's going to be much improved when he eventually graduates.

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6 hours ago, emmawoodhouse said:

Agreed that Jer seems to be doing school with absolutely no effort. And he's joyless with no charisma in the pulpit. Thank goodness he's apparently getting this education comped, because I don't think he's going to be much improved when he eventually graduates.

I totally agree with you about Jeremy graduating without truly absorbing what his program has to offer. It seems there's always a couple of those students in every program. I see Jeremy as someone who went into this program very gung-ho and then quickly became overwhelmed and likely started to slack a little because reality hit and slacking was easier than buckling down. But I think he would have to study enough to be able to pass tests and write papers, even if he his MacArthur's golden boy.

The language requirements have me puzzled. Unless one has a knack for language, not many will get much out of 2 courses. I like many, took two years of Spanish in high school and I actually learned more Spanish watching Sesame Street with my kids. 

And to be fair to Jeremy, what he posts on SM each week, probably adds up to a couple hours out of his week. The Master's program I was in suggested, or really highly encouraged, students not to work while in the program. We actually had to sign an attestation saying this recommendation was thoroughly explained to us. I entered the program with advanced standing and had the option to finish in one year. I opted for two years because I had a full time job, kids and a husband. Many times over the course of those two years I asked myself what had I gotten myself into. But I did it. My point being, I had way more going on than Jeremy, so it seems to me getting a burger or making a cake is certainly doable. 

 

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23 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

A good example is Lori Loughlin's daughter, Olivia. She appears to be as dumb as a stump.

Well that stump didn't fall far from the tree...lol well you know what I mean here. It's early.

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14 hours ago, lascuba said:

I think there's a stark line between biblical study as anthropology and biblical study for effective sermonizing. To be more precise, I do not believe, for a second, that MacArthur's particular flavor of Christianity is at all compatible with caring about translating text instead of just going with the accepted translations they've been using for however long. Being able to translate original biblical texts on their own would mean learning that they're wrong about a lot of what they've always believed the bible said.

I don't trust these people at all and until an outside expert on those languages confirm that the seminary is legitimately teaching them, I'm not buying it. Jeremy's a grade A brown noser but I don't think that's enough to let him get away with so little effort in classes that are supposed to be challenging.

I think the difference between your view and mine is that, while I don't believe in their religion either, I do think that a lot of people (far from all, but a lot) actually practice and study it in good faith, even in institutions that you or I might categorize as kind of bad-faith institutions overall! 

I completely agree -- and have written here before! -- that it's ludicrous to imagine that one person who's taken a few Greek or Hebrew courses could produce a definitive or even moderately well informed translation of anything. (or, in fact, that a person who's taken a ton of such courses could produce definitive translations without the help of archaeologists and linguistics specialists etc.).

Nevertheless, I think there's some insight they can gain from looking at the original languages, even in an elementary way -- and maybe even insights that can lead some to eventually question dogma they've been swallowing unthinkingly.

I also completely agree with you that MacArthur certainly doesn't want anyone thinking any new thoughts! He's absolutely opposed to allowing yourself to doubt the truths he, JM, slaps down and almost certainly believes that steeping in his curriculum slams the door on that. 

However, I know for a fact that some people do get their minds pried open because of stuff they learn. And that learning how hard it is to confidently "translate' a thought from one language into another very different language (and ancient to modern really really qualifies for that...) is more often than you'd think one of those eye openers (it's a little like traveling on your own to very different-from-yours places in that respect, I've often thought..) 

So even though JM doesn't intend for it to happen -- and most of the students don't come in intending for it to happen either -- I'd bet that some who actually do the work get their minds opened at least a bit.

Because if they look at those original-language texts seriously-- and I'm sure at least a few or them do, since most people who attend this seminary have to be the nerdy-student type to some extent, anyway-- some will notice that, hey, the "true meaning" isn't nearly as clear and unquestionable as they've always been led to think. 

That may not pay off today with a bunch of seminarians suddenly becoming open-minded about their theology. But I'd be surprised if that observation doesn't fester in some guys' minds and cast a shadow of doubt on some of the dogmatism they came in with. And if even a few of them eventually think a little and become just a little less sure of themselves and dogmatic because of something they studied, then to me that's an unquestionably good thing. 

I believe in the power of looking at original sources, whether you're advanced enough to do real scholarship on them or not. 

(For the record, I don't think it's fair to condemn this curriculum as not being truly scholarly.  It's called a master's degree -- but, as is true with many many other master's degrees today, I think it's not actually graduate-level work at all but is really what we once would have called a bachelor's degree in pastoring. Those bachelor's degrees barely exist any more. Plus, a lot of people decide they want to be pastors only after they've prepared for some other career. So I think they just offer this bachelor's degree but call it a master's degree because everybody in it has already got a bachelor's in some other subject. Many many master's programs today, not just this one, are essentially highly specialized bachelor's programs for career/academic-specialty changers, not advanced scholarly courses for people who are already trained in the subject matter. I don't see anything wrong with that, although I know some people do.) 

For me, none of this really applies to Jer or anybody with his cast of mind. I think he has no real intentions of studying anything, even though he probably thinks he does because he kind of likes the trappings of it, based on the decor he had in his Laredo office. But I do think others there do intend to study and don't fully realize how close-minded and over-generalizing their community is. And, for them, studying original ancient-language sources -- even at an elementary level -- may eventually open a door at least a crack, in my opinion. 

Pretty sure it won't be anything book-related that leads Jer away from full-on dogmatism, if anything ever does. That's not the way he's wired, despite what he protests, in my opinion.

I'd guess that, if his dogma doesn't ultimately give him a career and income that's sufficient for his ego by the time he's 40 or so, he'll leave it behind to some degree. .... But if it turns out to be integral to the way he gets to whatever career/income height he can manage, then he'll be a full-on unthinking dogmatist to the end. 

My guess on Jer's ultimate career achievement -- using his enormous sucking-up talent to become second fiddle to some guy who'll actually hold the kind of position of pomp and power Jer'd like for himself.

It'll probably be in the religious field, though I expect the suck-up-ee's level of dogma could range from super-dogmatic-"kinda-Calvinist"-conservative like JM (I say "kinda Calvinist" because it's quite possible to be a liberal/progressive Calvinist, and in my very biased interpretation that's truer Calvinism...😃) or not-very-dogmatic-at-all-except-for-being-largely-conservative-in-the-women-have-their-own-place-so-stay-out-of-mine-kind-of-way and so on.

I don't think Jer cares that much about the dogma, except that he'd like to do something religious so he can be his parents' golden child. As far as I can see, all he really wants is a certain position in the world or to get as close to that position as he can. 

 

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Depending on your wife's reality show history, living in a borrowed home, can't preach even though studying for the ministry while kissing McArthurs butt and now responsible for the care and welfare of two small daughters must weigh heavily on Jeremy!

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20 hours ago, doodlebug said:

I'm pretty sure SAG doesn't recognize reality TV participation as qualifying for membership.

I'm on board the Fauci train, too.  There is nothing more charming than a humble, brilliant science guy, IMO.  I feel like I helped discover him.  I saw him speak at a conference a number of years back and was very impressed with him then.  He did a lot of the work on Gardasil, the vaccine that protects against HPV and cervical cancer.

I had cervical cancer. I wish I could have gotten a vaccine when I was young. I might have been able to have more than one child. I'm lucky my second husband is content with my son and never wanted a biological child. 

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6 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I think the difference between your view and mine is that, while I don't believe in their religion either, I do think that a lot of people (far from all, but a lot) actually practice and study it in good faith, even in institutions that you or I might categorize as kind of bad-faith institutions overall! 

I completely agree -- and have written here before! -- that it's ludicrous to imagine that one person who's taken a few Greek or Hebrew courses could produce a definitive or even moderately well informed translation of anything. (or, in fact, that a person who's taken a ton of such courses could produce definitive translations without the help of archaeologists and linguistics specialists etc.).

Nevertheless, I think there's some insight they can gain from looking at the original languages, even in an elementary way -- and maybe even insights that can lead some to eventually question dogma they've been swallowing unthinkingly.

I also completely agree with you that MacArthur certainly doesn't want anyone thinking any new thoughts! He's absolutely opposed to allowing yourself to doubt the truths he, JM, slaps down and almost certainly believes that steeping in his curriculum slams the door on that. 

However, I know for a fact that some people do get their minds pried open because of stuff they learn. And that learning how hard it is to confidently "translate' a thought from one language into another very different language (and ancient to modern really really qualifies for that...) is more often than you'd think one of those eye openers (it's a little like traveling on your own to very different-from-yours places in that respect, I've often thought..) 

So even though JM doesn't intend for it to happen -- and most of the students don't come in intending for it to happen either -- I'd bet that some who actually do the work get their minds opened at least a bit.

Because if they look at those original-language texts seriously-- and I'm sure at least a few or them do, since most people who attend this seminary have to be the nerdy-student type to some extent, anyway-- some will notice that, hey, the "true meaning" isn't nearly as clear and unquestionable as they've always been led to think. 

That may not pay off today with a bunch of seminarians suddenly becoming open-minded about their theology. But I'd be surprised if that observation doesn't fester in some guys' minds and cast a shadow of doubt on some of the dogmatism they came in with. And if even a few of them eventually think a little and become just a little less sure of themselves and dogmatic because of something they studied, then to me that's an unquestionably good thing. 

I believe in the power of looking at original sources, whether you're advanced enough to do real scholarship on them or not. 

(For the record, I don't think it's fair to condemn this curriculum as not being truly scholarly.  It's called a master's degree -- but, as is true with many many other master's degrees today, I think it's not actually graduate-level work at all but is really what we once would have called a bachelor's degree in pastoring. Those bachelor's degrees barely exist any more. Plus, a lot of people decide they want to be pastors only after they've prepared for some other career. So I think they just offer this bachelor's degree but call it a master's degree because everybody in it has already got a bachelor's in some other subject. Many many master's programs today, not just this one, are essentially highly specialized bachelor's programs for career/academic-specialty changers, not advanced scholarly courses for people who are already trained in the subject matter. I don't see anything wrong with that, although I know some people do.) 

For me, none of this really applies to Jer or anybody with his cast of mind. I think he has no real intentions of studying anything, even though he probably thinks he does because he kind of likes the trappings of it, based on the decor he had in his Laredo office. But I do think others there do intend to study and don't fully realize how close-minded and over-generalizing their community is. And, for them, studying original ancient-language sources -- even at an elementary level -- may eventually open a door at least a crack, in my opinion. 

Pretty sure it won't be anything book-related that leads Jer away from full-on dogmatism, if anything ever does. That's not the way he's wired, despite what he protests, in my opinion.

I'd guess that, if his dogma doesn't ultimately give him a career and income that's sufficient for his ego by the time he's 40 or so, he'll leave it behind to some degree. .... But if it turns out to be integral to the way he gets to whatever career/income height he can manage, then he'll be a full-on unthinking dogmatist to the end. 

My guess on Jer's ultimate career achievement -- using his enormous sucking-up talent to become second fiddle to some guy who'll actually hold the kind of position of pomp and power Jer'd like for himself.

It'll probably be in the religious field, though I expect the suck-up-ee's level of dogma could range from super-dogmatic-"kinda-Calvinist"-conservative like JM (I say "kinda Calvinist" because it's quite possible to be a liberal/progressive Calvinist, and in my very biased interpretation that's truer Calvinism...😃) or not-very-dogmatic-at-all-except-for-being-largely-conservative-in-the-women-have-their-own-place-so-stay-out-of-mine-kind-of-way and so on.

I don't think Jer cares that much about the dogma, except that he'd like to do something religious so he can be his parents' golden child. As far as I can see, all he really wants is a certain position in the world or to get as close to that position as he can. 

 

I'm sure that there are plenty of people that enroll in this program in good faith, but a)that's not the intention of those creating the curricula, and b)those students are bad faith actors in the grand scheme of life so...I don't care about them or how ultimately they're throwing their money at a con artist.

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On 1/28/2021 at 5:14 PM, Joan of Argh said:

That's a good point, they're at a level of celebrity where a significant amount of strangers know who they are but they don't have the type of money real celebrities have that allows them to have security people, bodyguards or a gated mansion.

I'd hate to be that well known and not have the finances to protect myself and my family.

I read a book about Lucille Ball and in the beginning people would ring her doorbell at all hours and even throw down a blanket on her lawn and have a picnic, she started turning on her sprinkler system to shoo them away but eventually she had to increase her security.

I'd never ring someone's doorbell and I certainly wouldn't even dream of picnicking on someone's lawn but there's lots of weirdos out there who have no problem invading someone's space, I'd be terrified to have 2 little girls and not know what crazy person might become obsessed with my family but on the other hand they need to promote themselves if they want to be influencers.

I used to worry for the safety of the Little Couple. Their house is so distinctive, and Jen wouldn’t have a chance if someone snatched one of the children. 

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On 1/30/2021 at 10:07 PM, Zella said:

I would LOVE to hear his classmates' uncensored opinions on him.

For real, I’m dying to find this out!  Are any of his classmates on Reddit or otherwise posting the real scoop like derick’s classmates did?  

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What is the purpose of them posting this...to show they wear masks when required, to show they still eat out, to show that mike’s deli is cool and they’ve been there?  

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I bet Jeremy ends up teaching and coaching sports at a Christian school. This career is a dead end for him. He’s simply too dull (and I had A LOT of dull priests in my church going days). Maybe they’ll move to PA, near his parents. 

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33 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

The post of Jing losing a 45-minute game of Uno....

I'll bet anything she threw the game to let Jeremy win. I'm sure that she and her sisters never played a game in their childhood without Michelle whispering "Always let your brother (or father) win! Boys don't like girls who act smarter than them!" And I can just imagine what a sore loser Josh would have been as a kid, especially if he suffered the shame of being beaten by a mere girl.

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8 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

I bet Jeremy ends up teaching and coaching sports at a Christian school. This career is a dead end for him. He’s simply too dull (and I had A LOT of dull priests in my church going days). Maybe they’ll move to PA, near his parents. 

Idk, most schools do want someone with teaching experience and preferably the right degree.

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1 minute ago, DangerousMinds said:

Idk, most schools do want someone with teaching experience and preferably the right degree.

Agreed. I have friends with master's degrees in English but without teaching qualifications who learned pretty quickly that they are not competitive as teaching candidates here in Arkansas. The schools they are eligible for are not places most people want to teach. I'd think that would be doubly true in California. 

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Are we sure that pic of them in Mike's deli came from Jeremy? I don't see Jeremy's name in the stories. It may have been a pap who tagged Mike's deli. Also, I don't see Evangeline, although Jeremy may be blocking her.

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9 minutes ago, madpsych78 said:

Are we sure that pic of them in Mike's deli came from Jeremy? I don't see Jeremy's name in the stories. It may have been a pap who tagged Mike's deli. Also, I don't see Evangeline, although Jeremy may be blocking her.

It's posted from his Instagram page, with the caption "Grubbin with my munchkin." 

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKwnGUOFkGo/

but apparently only posted about 15 minutes ago? Hmm Damned if I know what's going on. LOL

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1 hour ago, madpsych78 said:

Are we sure that pic of them in Mike's deli came from Jeremy? I don't see Jeremy's name in the stories. It may have been a pap who tagged Mike's deli. Also, I don't see Evangeline, although Jeremy may be blocking her.

Jinger is probably in the car with Evangeline and Felicity is in the Deli with Jeremy.  They went along for the ride to pick up a quick dinner.  Nothing strange about that.  The person beyond Jeremy is too large to be Jinger.  

I think the baby sneaker candle is adorable.  I've got a niece that's expecting her first, and she played college basketball.  She'd love that as a very unique gift.  

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1 hour ago, leighdear said:

Jinger is probably in the car with Evangeline and Felicity is in the Deli with Jeremy.  They went along for the ride to pick up a quick dinner.  Nothing strange about that.  The person beyond Jeremy is too large to be Jinger.  

I think the baby sneaker candle is adorable.  I've got a niece that's expecting her first, and she played college basketball.  She'd love that as a very unique gift.  

...and sporting large tattoos...  Sorry, that made me laugh.

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Well now I've taken way too close a look at that weird stalker picture and it looks like there are TWO people standing behind Jeremy? There are two feet standing behind anyway, and from where they're planted on the ground they don't look like they belong to only one person. But who knows. I kind of hope that Jeremy took Felicity into the restaurant and Jinger took the picture from the car, because it's such a creepily voyeuristic photo, you hate to think of a stranger taking it...but at the same time, why didn't he leave Felicity in the car then, too? LOL this is like a Rorschach test of an Insta.

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8 minutes ago, CalicoKitty said:

I would want to go into the store with Daddy if I was her age.  Maybe he told her she was his "helper".  This is least strange thing about this picture as far as I can see.

Normally I would agree if we weren’t still in the midst of a global pandemic.

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