S10.E16: Guess Who's Arguing at Dinner?

[MBJ]

34 minutes ago, dosodog said:

When they cut to Luann doing her own make up, it made me realize how truly beautiful she is.

I think that Luann is a goddess, with or without makeup... truly

Edited to say lookswise, because people like to quote things out of context.  Goddesses aren't real, everyone, and it was hyperbole to make a superficial point.  Thanks!

Edited July 26, 2018 by Ms Blue Jay

[SuprSuprElevated]

[Mozelle]

3 minutes ago, Bronzedog said:

Do they all drown next week?

Bethenny almost drowns in her tears. Almost, though, because thankfully she was wearing a life vest.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Mozelle

[njbchlover]

49 minutes ago, WhoaWhoKnew said:

Where can I get a blinking balloon?

Luann's room in Cartegna - where Bethenny left the one she was supposed to bring home to Bryn.

[SweetieDarling]

What was with Bethenny's line about the street beverage? "They give you diarrhea? I pray for diarrhea every day"? It reminded me of the line in The Devil Wears Prada where the woman says she's only 1 stomach virus away from her goal weight. 

[b2H]

26 minutes ago, bosawks said:

One of those insults was not like the others.

I mean, Lu, you are an ex-countess...

The other stuff was pretty sucky, though.

I took this from Dorinda that Lu has failed at pretty much everything.  A throwback to earlier this season where Dorinda insisted losing her husband to death was much worse than losing due to a divorce.

[njbchlover]

48 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Wait, who's Eve?

Was Bethenny sick?  Her face looks bad. 

Her face was very splotchy and puffy - probably because she was crying on and off for more than 24 hours.

[AnnA]

I loved the OG group scene!

[mytmo]

These bitches are loco

[ryebread]

10 minutes ago, bagger said:

I’m sorry, I just have to love me some Sonja when she says things like, “that’s when you pat your friend on the arm... that’s ride or die...” I had a glimpse of that Sonja from her first season.

And she's so beautiful.  Completely nuts, but beautiful.

[MBJ]

I love Bethenny's ENTIRE outfit with the big gold necklace, and I loved Carole's round sunglasses while shopping - they were amazing.

19 minutes ago, AnnA said:

She looked like the Joker

Why so..... SERIOUS????? ; )

[SuprSuprElevated]

For Sonja - 

This meme has been getting a workout on PTV lately.

Edited July 26, 2018 by SuprSuprElevated

[bagger]

4 minutes ago, ryebread said:

And she's so beautiful.  Completely nuts, but beautiful.

I Know!!!!! On both counts!!!!!

[twilightzone]

9 minutes ago, Ms Blue Jay said:

I think that Luann is a goddess, with or without makeup... truly

Mmmm, I would never consider someone who threaten to kill police officer - and who has been sued by her own children for stealing from them - a "goddess".

[Jel]

I'd just like to point out that Beth was very careful about what she ate this episode. She thought there might be fish, she passed. Ramona was not implicated.

[TexasGal]

11 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Luann's room in Cartegna - where Bethenny left the one she was supposed to bring home to Bryn.

I’m no expert on Colombian blinking balloons, but just how long did Bethenny think that thing was going to last that she would take it home to Bryn?  I hope that thing had an off switch or else Lu would have been within her rights to destroy it after the night she had.

Dorinda isn’t just an ugly drunk, she goes for the lowest thing she can find about someone in the drunken well of her memory.  Not a good look.

We need a replay with subtitles of each argument. I couldn’t figure out what the heck was happening.

Edited July 26, 2018 by TexasGal

[mbaywife123]

SonJa seems more on point this season.

She recognized that Carole brought her a present to pump her for intel about Beth and she didn't gossip or tell Carole anything that was damaging or to be used as ammo against Beth.

[AttackTurtle]

Luanne was looking out for Dorinda.  These ladies are in a foreign country, where Dotinda’s drunken outbursts could easily lead to an arrest.  Dorinda is a hot mess.  She may not have liked Bethenny’s delivery, but Bethenny was absolutely right, Dorinda has a really bad drinking problem.  Carole and Tinsley’s defense of Dorinda was ridiculous.  They know fully well that Dorinda’s behavior is out of control when she drinks too much.

[Gem 10]

So Dorinda has lipstick all over her face, slurring her words, still drinking and lites up a cigarette.  Maybe she’ll set herself on fire now too.

[lamujerdecente]

1 hour ago, RedDelicious said:

I love Carole's shopping outfit.

I did too. And her outfit when she gave the earrings to Sonia. And then she wore the white outfit.  Why?

[sasha206]

41 minutes ago, Mozelle said:

Bethenny soooo wants Carole to be the Jill here. Jill groveled for Bethenny's friendship, and Carole isn't that person. It's distressing Bethenny that she can't pull and manipulate Carole that way.

EXACTLY!  

And Beth being the best orderer?  Seriously?  That's to her a great compliment?  How fucking hard is it to order great food from a menu?

[njbchlover]

36 minutes ago, whydoievencare said:

You may be right that Bethenny is skipping texts, but Carol also seems to skip those details that don't fit with her narrative. Carole does seem to have other friends, but we've also seen her be a mean girl too (with Jules)  and I feel she's being a mean girl now.  If she doesn't want to remain friends with Bethenny then she should be more honest about that.

We've all been throwing around the "mean girls" phrase, but tonight, we saw how true it is.

Carole wasn't a mean girl until she starting hanging out with Bethenny.  Bethenny can be and often is a mean girl.  So, Carole learned from a master.  Much like Cady learned from Regina George (in the original movie with Lindsay Lohan), the lessons were well taught.  Too bad that the lessons were then used against the teacher.... 

Now, having said all of that, this episode made me very sad.  Whether I liked or disliked Bethenny and/or Carole, I did think they had a nice friendship until this year.  It is always said to see a friendship break up~~and we seemed to witness two friendships breaking up tonight at either end of RHNY's version of the "Dinner Party from Hell".  

[Taralightner]

1 hour ago, Neurochick said:

Wait, who's Eve?

Was Bethenny sick?  Her face looks bad. 

“Eve” could be a reference to All About Eve- a classic movie about a woman who pretends to be someone she’s not, but gets “found out” by someone who knows her and can see through her act.  I’m not sure that I’m correct, because I didn’t post it, but it makes sense in context. 

[LilaFowler]

12 minutes ago, AnnA said:

I loved the OG group scene!

I did, too. They should ditch Vapid Tinsley and Slurinda next season and just focus on the OG 4. (Sonja's not a real OG but close enough.)

[MBJ]

11 minutes ago, sasha206 said:

And Beth being the best orderer?  Seriously?  That's to her a great compliment?  How fucking hard is it to order great food from a menu?

I totally get this compliment.  I know a lot of people who freeze up and beg other people at the table to tell them what they're ordering because they can't make decisions.  I know someone who can't even look at a menu because too much choice gives her anxiety.  I have a coworker who roams the office and asks what everyone else is getting for lunch. I'm not kidding.  Somebody who picks the best restaurants and the best dishes to have is a great person to have as a friend.

Edited July 26, 2018 by Ms Blue Jay

[chewycandy]

2 minutes ago, LilaFowler said:

I did, too. They should ditch Vapid Tinsley and Slurinda next season and just focus on the OG 4. (Sonja's not a real OG but close enough.)

Bethenny enjoyed that moment, when minutes before she was crying about not belonging. Lol 

[QuinnM]

3 minutes ago, njbchlover said:

Carole wasn't a mean girl until she starting hanging out with Bethenny.  Bethenny can be and often is a mean girl.  So, Carole learned from a master.  Much like Cady learned from Regina George (in the original movie with Lindsay Lohan), the lessons were well taught.  Too bad that the lessons were then used against the teacher.

Sorry but everyone and their brother said Carol Kennedy was the ultimate mean girl.  So I think Carole R has been in training for a long time.  She’s just hone some rough edges with Bethenny.

[sasha206]

28 minutes ago, SweetieDarling said:

What was with Bethenny's line about the street beverage? "They give you diarrhea? I pray for diarrhea every day"? It reminded me of the line in The Devil Wears Prada where the woman says she's only 1 stomach virus away from her goal weight. 

Beth seems to think anything that sounds outrageous, disgusting, or vulgar is irreverent humor.

Edited July 26, 2018 by sasha206

[hoodooznoodooz]

So who told you to take on so much, Beth?

[Lady of nod]

I'm only 8 minutes in and I already have had enough of B's woe is me crap.  God she is a soul sucking narcissist. Dorinda Carol and even Ramona have got her number.  I feel like I'm watching a rerun of the "poor me I'm homeless cab ride"  How bout being thankful for a goddamn minute for what you have instead of freaking out about the life you've created. Stop buying a new apt every year if you don't like moving.  You have a boatload of money so take some time off and get your shit together for your kid. And stop being a super bitch to your friends if you want to keep them.  

[snarts]

Carole no longer wants to be friends with Bethenny, but she wants Bethenny to chase the friendship. Bethenny is a completely self centered egotist, but Carole's not any better. She's far more manipulative and mean-spirited. It's hard to pick sides. 

Dorinda is the very defintion of an angry drunk. How can she watch herself and not see an issue? 

Sonja & Ramona have come a long way. It was nice to them both stay out of the fray. Loved the OG lunch too. 

[hoodooznoodooz]

I cannot imagine what Beth was like going through puberty. The hormones and emotions. 

[Otherkate]

30 minutes ago, ShawnaLanne said:

Watching Bethany care for Dorinda reminds me she's a child of an alcoholic.

I thought the same thing.

Dorinda is a DISAAAAAASTER. Watching her sit there with Carole slurring her words with lipstick all over her joker face was traumatizing. And, yeah, generally if you get that on edge around people who aren't drinking...be concerned. 

Speaking of concerned, I am extremely concerned that both Sonja and Ramona were the most reasonable people in this episode and made the most sense multiple times. What weird bizarro world is this? Sonja should write a book about friendship. And, yeah, if you decide to befriend a crazy neurotic person don't be surprised when they act like a crazy neurotic person. Bethenny talking about Carole being so "cool" everything is "cool" sounded exactly like me talking aloud when I finally unfollowed Carole on Instagram months ago.

I loved Bethenny's blue dress from the back and absolutely hated it from the front.

Tinsley seems like a sweet person, but she is so helpless. Her mother did her a great disservice. 

[njbchlover]

13 minutes ago, mbaywife123 said:

SonJa seems more on point this season.

She recognized that Carole brought her a present to pump her for intel about Beth and she didn't gossip or tell Carole anything that was damaging or to be used as ammo against Beth.

Maybe so, but she sure as hell couldn't wait to spill to Bethenny about her conversation with Ramona and the other ladies.  These shows would be completely boring without these women stirring the pot so much!  

[noveltylibrary]

Best ep so far this season.  At first I was irritated that the conversations were over each other but then I started to appreciate the art that it was lol

'We weren't drunk we were having drinks!'

[Persnickety1]

33 minutes ago, fountain said:

I guess because I don’t drink much I don’t get why these ladies have to get so sloshed. I don’t see why if you have friend in recovery you cannot just abstain.  I would call a drunk like Dorinda out when she behaves really badly like she did at Bethany’s charity thing.  IDK at this stage I find it gross to be watching Dorinda and hope she isn’t back next year.

^^^ THIS.

Across all franchises, has Jill Zarin been the only housewife who orders just a diet soda?  

Whether it's an early brunch, lunch, happy hour, dinner, whatever time of day it is, it seems to be Drunk O'Clock in the Real Housewives time zone.

I know Bravo provides them with an endless supply of booze, but seriously, it's not "all uncool" to drink something nonalcoholic on occasion.  These housewives' livers would probably thank them for occasionally skipping the pickling potion.

And I say this as someone who has nothing against drinking and imbibe occasionally myself.  I just grew out of the drunken hot mess stage when I was about 18 and realized it wasn't a good look on most of the human population.  Ugh.

I can't watch this trainwreck until it hits Amazon Prime at midnight PST.  Sounds like I need to be on my toes to keep up with tonight's shenanigans.  

[TeeMo]

How many times this season have we seen Carole smoking but making sure we know it is a rare occurrence ? She only smokes in costume or in Columbia I guess?

[Happy Camper]

1 hour ago, whydoievencare said:

I'm surprised that Bethenny doesn't pass out from lack of oxygen what with the non stop talking without taking a breath. Jesus Christ, stop already.

She's like the Duracell Bunny. Someone needs to remove her batteries.

[Persnickety1]

17 minutes ago, Gem 10 said:

So Dorinda has lipstick all over her face, slurring her words, still drinking and lites up a cigarette.  Maybe she’ll set herself on fire now too.

Well, don't forget she *did* face plant into the birthday cake whilst the candles were ablaze, so there's hope yet!!!

[Guest]

I'm no fan of Bethany's but this episode I was more irritated by Carole.

Watching her approach both Bethenny and Sonja to figure out what happened to her relationship with Bethenny only to deny everything they thought or felt about it was working my last nerve. 

Clearly Carole has an opinion on what went down.  So why doesn't she approach it directly?

[escatefromny]

These ladies bring it.  

During the 2 ring circus Luanne kept checking to see of the camera was “getting this”.

Bethanney is a coward.  First trying to run away (but only via private plane, apparently a commercial flight out wasn’t an option for the Millionaires) then repeatedly trying to get out of it at the dinner (I don’t want to do this here, people are listening) dislike Carole immensely but applaud her for keeping B on the hot seat.  

At least B & C didn’t play dirty.  The whole season there has been the feeling that there is more to this story but, so far,  no one has spilled.

Edited July 26, 2018 by escatefromny

[mbaywife123]

 SonJa wasn't acting like her normal giddy self delivering what was being said about what was being said about Beth. To me there was just a different "tone" to the dissemination of the information.

[Gem 10]

Ramona .. Sit down and Shut Up, and stop hugging everybody, you phony.

[RedDelicious]

But seriously though, what was the crash and the scream?

[hoodooznoodooz]

Shopping:

Tinley’s dress is gorgeous.

Love Carole’s outfit.

[psychoticstate]

Wow. Dorinda is a NASTY, SLOPPY drunk.  I dont' think Lu was judging her.  She did say that Dorinda gets aggressive when she drinks, which is true.  Dorinda herself later admitted that. 

Listen, Bravo, watching a sloppy, disgusting drunk is not entertaining.  My apologies to Cartagena.  

Carole is a complete and unapologetic asshole.  Yeah, she wants to have an adult conversation with B -- after she runs around to the other ladies and gossips and complains about her.  Move on from the frenemy relationship, B.  Carole not being your friend any longer is like the trash taking itself out. 

I noticed that Carole was GLEEFUL over Lu being drunkenly attacked by  Dorinda.  She could barely containing her smirks and smiles.  Not cool for Dorinda to suggest that Lu would be drinking again in 3 months.   Carole:  I don't judge anyone for their drinking habits.  No, Carole.  You just judge them.  And let me apologize to Cartagena again for Carole's 2018 Lingerie Tour.  There is no excuse, Colombia.  I'm sorry.  Just like there is no excuse for Carole turning tassels and/or lamp pulls into earrings.  

Has Carole never known anyone who has gone through a protracted divorce and/or custody fight?  When that happens, it doesn't matter how nice your house is or how great your job is.  Does Carole even know what a job is?  I did notice she struggled to explain exactly what she was busy with, insofar as explaining how she was too busy to worry about Bethenny.  We know she's not busy from working.

Why is anyone friends with Dorinda or Carole?  They're both assholes.   Dorinda thinks she deserves an apology from Lu after Dorinda goes off and Carole licks her ass by telling her what an AMAZING friend she's been.  Of course if we look at the clothes Carole wears, that alone tells us that Carole's judgment is suspect. 

"Even prison bitches have one loyal friend."  Never change, Sonja!  

[ShawnaLanne]

16 minutes ago, Otherkate said:

I thought the same thing.

Dorinda is a DISAAAAAASTER. Watching her sit there with Carole slurring her words with lipstick all over her joker face was traumatizing. And, yeah, generally if you get that on edge around people who aren't drinking...be concerned. 

Speaking of concerned, I am extremely concerned that both Sonja and Ramona were the most reasonable people in this episode and made the most sense multiple times. What weird bizarro world is this? Sonja should write a book about friendship. And, yeah, if you decide to befriend a crazy neurotic person don't be surprised when they act like a crazy neurotic person. Bethenny talking about Carole being so "cool" everything is "cool" sounded exactly like me talking aloud when I finally unfollowed Carole on Instagram months ago.

I loved Bethenny's blue dress from the back and absolutely hated it from the front.

Tinsley seems like a sweet person, but she is so helpless. Her mother did her a great disservice. 

For real. Ramona sincerely looked like she was shocked and disgusted by Dorinda's rant. And a bit frightened that it would come back at her.

Edited July 26, 2018 by ShawnaLanne

[ancslove]

I think Bethenny and Carole are both at Bitch Eating Crackers regarding each other, but can't really acknowledge it.  They're both inadvertently feeding a tense atmosphere, but I think Carole especially seems pretty much done.  It's just really weird that she won't say it to Bethenny's face.  She says it in her THs, she says it to the other women, she speaks it in every action, so now it's just time to cut the cord completely.  When Beth told Carole that she seemed over her, Carole should have come clean right then.  If she'd done that, they both could have witnessed the other meltdown!

I hope the reunion goes hard on Dorinda.  After cutting down Luann, she turned on Ramona this ep, too.  It's just that for once in her life, Ramona chose not to engage.  I think Carole is now the only one she hasn't hit with a drunken tirade (unless you count her original blowup at Heather).  Hopefully Carole remembers what happened with Heather.  Between the drunk attacks and the admitted shit-stirring of Tinsley against Sonja earlier, she needs to be confronted.  

Ramona had a good episode, even though she is still far too enamored of the idea of a Carole vs B fight.  Sonja also was reasonable and kind and diplomatic.  

[UsernameFatigue]

17 minutes ago, QuinnM said:

Sorry but everyone and their brother said Carol Kennedy was the ultimate mean girl.  So I think Carole R has been in training for a long time.  She’s just hone some rough edges with Bethenny.

Do you mean Caroline Kennedy or Carolyn Bessette Kennedy? I certainly heard that about the latter, who was of course Carole's BFF. Watching tonight I was thinking (before I found out that Carole was leaving the show) that something needs to happen for Carole and Beth to move on, so I guess this is it. Personally I think Carole saw the writing on the wall, and knew that if Bravo was to chose between her and Beth, Beth would win every time. I don't for a minute think that she is going to be producing and writing. As someone pointed out, she can barely write a puff piece for Cosmo these days. Lets face it, she has no storyline and is dispensible. Bye bye, Carole. 

[chewycandy]

8 minutes ago, escatefromny said:

At least B & C didn’t play dirty.  The whole season there has been the feeling that there is more to this story but, so far,  no one as spilled.

There was something about the moment when Carole kissed her and said I do love you. 

4 minutes ago, RedDelicious said:

But seriously though, what was the crash and the scream?

I assumed Dorinda flailed her arm and the glass went flying in Luann’s direction.