Season 3 Discussion

[Emkat]

1 hour ago, 17wheatthins said:

I love Molly's look today: hair, earrings, dress...I'd rock all of that. 

I think she is really pretty.

[sainte-chapelle]

2 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

Something is wrong in the universe when David is the one with sense!  I like him more than Russ at this point.

Russ is a joke. He stands up,for Pao yet she makes fun of him with Juan all of the tim and never defends him. He is a fool.

[guilfoyleatpp]

1 minute ago, sainte-chapelle said:

Russ is a joke. He stands up,for Pao yet she makes fun of him with Juan all of the tim and never defends him. He is a fool.

And what is with Pao and Juan both being such accomplished, bitchy liars?

Like attracts like, it seems.

Paola doesn't act like a 30+ year old. She acts like a snotty, disrespectful, defiant teenager. 

[sainte-chapelle]

3 minutes ago, guilfoyleatpp said:

And what is with Pao and Juan both being such accomplished, bitchy liars?

Like attracts like, it seems.

Paola doesn't act like a 30+ year old. She acts like a snotty, disrespectful, defiant teenager. 

I keep forgetting she is in her 30s, Anfisa has more sense and she is only 22. I laughed when Anfisa called her 'the c&aunt  from Colombia"  not nice but kinda true.

Edited July 23, 2018 by sainte-chapelle

[iwasish]

15 minutes ago, Ijustwantsomechips said:

Something is wrong in the universe when David is the one with sense!  I like him more than Russ at this point.

That’s the David that should interview for jobs. Not the guy who has to keep his 25 yr old wife happy.

[WhatsUpDummy]

Courtney is the biggest airhead dummy to ever grace this train wreck of a show. 

[Mrs. Hanson]

Per Jorge:  I really wanted Maury Povich to show up:  "Jorge you ARE the father!"

[Brooklynista]

14 minutes ago, iwasish said:

That’s the David that should interview for jobs. Not the guy who has to keep his 25 yr old wife happy.

Small voice in my head said David would be a better host than Shaun.

[hoosiermom]

Courtney did something to her front teeth. Veneers maybe? She had those tiny teeth that showed so much of her gums last season.

[WhatsUpDummy]

Ok, so Andrei can’t work until he gets his paperwork done, they knew that going in. So Elizabeth’s dad asking how they’re paying bills... how did she she pay her bills BEFORE Andrei got there? Her financial situation hasn’t really changed that much. She was paying for everything when she was single and now she’s paying for everything while married.  He can’t work, everybody knew this. Why are they surprised? 

[Emkat]

David looks just like a bloated Paul Reubens. 

[Eme]

Josh!!  Thank you for showing us your teeth!!  That was the funniest part of the evening!  You know he reads this -- so I am going to say he needs to spend every single penny they get from this show to pay for the IVF.  His wife is already in her later 30s and time is ticking.  She really wants children and will never forgive him if he's not able to give her one.  I hope they are successful in getting that worked out.

Why does Pao keep saying "I don't want to choose between my Best Friend and my Husband"?  She already PICKED -- When she married Russ.  HE was her PICK.  She needs to realize that and get over it.  There is No Way she would EVER put up with Russ having a female "best friend" who treated her like Juan treats Russ.  Someone needs to point that out to her.  Russ had a good point on this show -- he wanted Everyone to see how Juan acts hoping Pao would also see it.  It must be very frustrating for him to have to deal with that Joker and to have a wife he adores never stand up for him.  The Mean Girl way Pao acted on the last Tell All with Lauren was horrid - Anfisa has a right to be upset. 

Annie talked smack about David's daughter then she stood behind her comments.  Annie is no joke.  

Anfisa has her hands full with trying to figure out truth with Jorge.  Good luck to her on all that.

Still like Pedro and Chantel although they seriously need a some couples therapy en Espanol!  Her Spanish is so weak and his English is not good, their inability to communicate because they don't understand anything other than "Baby" could be their downfall and that would be a shame because they really do seem to love each other. 

Oh yes, THANK YOU PRODUCERS for some more Andreiiiiii Eye Candy!  He needs to drag Lizzy to Moldova and keep her there - let's see what Daddy has to say then.....

Edited July 23, 2018 by Eme
Andreiiiiii

[JocelynCavanaugh]

Maybe Myriam isn’t into Patrick because he smacks and sucks his teeth constantly while he eats. I think he’s actually an attractive guy but once I saw him eat it was all over. 

[Annymin]

Damn..... I am on the west coast so I’m a little more than an hour into the show.  Reading you all’s comments and reactions here before the show airs here has been an absolute hoot!  You are spot on!   Shut up David.  Anfisa, slap the shit talking mean girl Pao.  Shaun,  go to host school.  And, women, cover up your breasticles!  

[iwasish]

12 minutes ago, Brooklynista said:

Small voice in my head said David would be a better host than Shaun.

Its funny that they all have such good insight into the other couples relationships, and saying so much about them, but they get all defensive when the comments are directed at them. I laughed when Mr Nice Guy Russ was making comments about Azan and his visa to Belarus (fiancé visa) but he’s blind to the crap Pao pulls on him.ex: when they were arguing and drinking he left to go outside, she bitches to the crew about him and the barks at him to “get in here” and he meekly returns, even the dog was hiding from her. 

I cant believe Chantel watched the family brawl and still maintained that Pedro instigated it. It’s ludicris to even suggest that Pedro and Nicole came with an agenda to attack River. I don’t think River even believes that.  

[Spike]

3 hours ago, Brooklynista said:

Ashley is giving me  bloated Amy Winehouse vibes tonight.

She didn’t deny the three marriages.  And here I just assumed she got knocked up off Tinder three times.

Edited July 23, 2018 by Spike

[Mothra]

4 hours ago, iwasish said:

David.... just shut up, no one had even started on your lazy ass so don’t bring attention to yourself.

Yeah--where does this guy get off giving advice to anyone, or criticizing anyone?  I think he has something seriously wrong with his perception of reality and his place in it.

[For Cereals]

If Chantal keeps talking like that, she’s going to develop an underbite.

[Eme]

Again Josh -- Thanks for the heads up that Joe is no longer in the picture.  Joe was tough to watch.  Kudos on them having their own place -- it looked quite nice.  

I've seen that brawl a few times and it looks like to me that BrotherChantel was talking smack to Pedro.  Pedro got up to beat his chest.  BrotherChantel then got up and swung the light fixture at Pedro. That, to me, was the first aggressive move.  BrotherChantel started with the talk then aggressively hit the light fixture -- not caring if it hit Pedro.  Pedro THEN stormed over and challenged BrotherChantel.  Not saying Pedro was right in any of this, but BrotherChantel needs to check himself.  He is constantly challenging his brother in law and he needs to Just Quit It.  Whatever FamilyChantel thinks of Pedro they are not hurting Pedro -- they are hurting Chantel.  They need to Stay In Their Lane and let Chantel figure out if she likes AmericaPedro or not.  FamiyChantel is just confusing the situation.

[gingerella]

3 hours ago, annewithaneee said:

God, I am so sick of the narrative of "Annie was a prostitute". It's so retrograde and offensive.

Personally, I'm imagining that yes she was in sex work on some level or another. I've never been to Thailand, much less as a sex tourist, so I'm almost entirely basing this off of watching way too many random-ass documentaries on YouTube (so, you know, my sourcing on this is suspect as hell), but I'm imagining she probably worked in one of the many Thai bars where she was paid next to nothing to get Western men to buy beers by dancing and flirting (and perhaps yes singing karaoke while she's there) at the very least, and performing sex acts later at the man's hotel or some sort of rented room at most, with the lion's share of all proceeds going to bar owners and staff. And yes, some of these men she probably was scoping out as being a likely green card and source of much-needed money to send back to her family.

But even if she were hustling on a corner or working out of an outright brothel, why is this a reason to judge and dislike Annie? If she was a sex worker in Thailand, it was almost surely out of economic necessity, and as bleak as it is, David was probably her best ticket out. I take it as nearly a given that Annie was a bar girl of some sort, but that it's David who is nasty as all hell for it. This deflated balloon of a man spends years over there, severing contact with his family including his minor son, takes advantage of the fucked-up cultural norms that have led to thousands of women like Annie having to work in incredibly dangerous conditions to make literally a few bucks, and the show continues to drive the conversation about Annie's actions and past? It's David who deserves all the shaming and then some, not her.

THANK you for saying this. It's been bugging the everloving shit out of me since this rumor has been on this site. I feel it's incredibly distressing and sad that any woman - or man - from a developed country would make fun of, gleefully at times, another woman having to possibly engage in sex work to survive. I have spent a lot of time in Thailand and NObody, NO young girl there or any other country, dreams of being a sex worker when they grow up. In fact, I will also go another step further and say that I found the glee at renaming the David & Annie thread was also in extremely poor taste. It says a lot about our society when people think it's fun or funny to make fun of someone who may have had to resort to selling their body to survive. It's all the more shocking while we're globally in the midst of a movement directly related to women who have been forced to have sex to keep their jobs, etc. 

3 hours ago, PityFree said:

 I get the feeling if Annie laughed too hard, a bunch of ping-pong balls would hit the floor. 

The above comment illustrates everything I just said above. Yes this is a snark site, but some things just are not cool to make fun of.

Edited July 23, 2018 by gingerella

[iwasish]

2 minutes ago, Mothra said:

Yeah--where does this guy get off giving advice to anyone, or criticizing anyone?  I think he has something seriously wrong with his perception of reality and his place in it.

His reality is that he lives in an apartment above a storage unit with his 25 yr old wife and a Masters Degree.

[Frozendiva]

Patrick, please chop the blond bun from your head. All you need is a scrunchie. Myriam, do stay in Paris, stay at your job, and make yourself a good life there. Patrick is nice as a friend.

Danielle, why are you driving 6 hours to meet some dude you chat with online? Seriously, he should be meeting you halfway. The only person you bring to a relationship is you. There is no Curse of Mohammed, like some Mohammed Mummy Movie with you screaming 'you frauded me' to the pile of bandages chasing you. Whether or not he received your messages, he should have replied to you or confirmed to you in some way that he was meeting you.

Cortney, why? He didn't want you in Spain.

Kirlyam, you are very pretty and far better than the folks on this tell-all.

Nice to see Josh's front teeth and that he is in a better place in life. Has his own home now, no roomies, no bad friends.

In part one of the dysfunctionfest:

Pao, your modelling must be doing well if you can afford what looked like the studded Louboutins - those would be in the $1500 plus range and Russ's sneakers would be around $1000. Unless things have changed in Louboutinland, Monsieur Louboutin does not give free shoes to anyone. Celebs and everyone else have to pay for them. Both her and Anfisa behaved horribly to one another. Whether it's real or for the show's drama, who knows. Pao, you are 30 years old with a husband. Things do seem very very rocky. Your hair flipping and flirting like body language when you were chatting with Juan was very telling. Is he your preferred love or will there be someone darkening your doorstep next season? Anfisa has your number and would not hesitate to call you out. The red hair was very unflattering.

Annie, you certainly told Ashley how things were and didn't leave anything out. Your assessment is probably correct. It is going to take time for David's family and children to warm to you. They and their dad have a lot of unresolved issues. Whatever background you did have in Thailand is not relevant to your new life in the US. Yes, you will be judged. Everyone does it.  I didn't appreciate David's ugly cry. He is not going to have kids with you. Get your Green Card, and then walk.

Jorge, it is very simple to take a paternity test. If it is negative, as you say it is, nothing will change. If it is positive, you may lose your wife. You have lied repeatedly to her and eventually she will walk out. And rightfully so. She has every right to not want you if you have a child with another woman - one who you never really mentioned, claimed you were not the father, the baby's mother has been pressing you for years for a paternity test, and still nothing. Just lie after lie.

Chantel, everyone in this mess is partly responsible. You instigate it with running to your parents and brother and sister about your marriage, they go in to the loop, Pedro gets dragged in and made the villain. Lather, rinse, repeat. Grow up, start to not talk to your parents about everything in your life. Finish nursing school and get a job. Pedro is sending $150 a month? Less than your weave and manicure. He is not harvesting the American dollar. He's only sending a pittance down to his family - pretty much what he can afford. You signed up for this when you married him.

Why would David and Luis be friends and in contact? Why does David offer advice on how to run people's relationships? He is living in a storage unit area, no real job and a 25 year old wife. Unbecoming for him with a Master's degree.

Molly is seeing another dude that is younger? If it is only a few years, no problem.  Like Danielle, she will get repeats of the same man until she learns her lessons. Looks like round 2.

Andrei, thank you for telling Libby's dad off. He probably can take some free or low cost English language courses at one of the colleges or immigrant centres in the area. I'd expect that he is on top of the paperwork to get himself permission to seek employment. Whether his father in law likes him or not, he should be thankful that his son in law has some self-respect.

Nicole, you really do need to ask Azan some hard questions about his previous 'relationships' and ways to get out of Morocco. There may be other women he hasn't exactly mentioned. He treats you with disrespect but you still want him. Of course, your prospects at home are not so great.

The catered lunch for the folks looked a little cheap.

[magemaud]

19 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Jorge, it is very simple to take a paternity test.

But...but...in ten years, he just didn’t get around to it! Just like he didn’t get around to calling his ex. I was really hoping Shaun would whip out a DNA kit and start the process right then and there. The more he stalls about this, the guiltier he looks as to being the Baby Daddy. 

[iwasish]

25 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Patrick, please chop the blond bun from your head. All you need is a scrunchie. Myriam, do stay in Paris, stay at your job, and make yourself a good life there. Patrick is nice as a friend.

Danielle, why are you driving 6 hours to meet some dude you chat with online? Seriously, he should be meeting you halfway. The only person you bring to a relationship is you. There is no Curse of Mohammed, like some Mohammed Mummy Movie with you screaming 'you frauded me' to the pile of bandages chasing you. Whether or not he received your messages, he should have replied to you or confirmed to you in some way that he was meeting you.

Cortney, why? He didn't want you in Spain.

Kirlyam, you are very pretty and far better than the folks on this tell-all.

Nice to see Josh's front teeth and that he is in a better place in life. Has his own home now, no roomies, no bad friends.

In part one of the dysfunctionfest:

Pao, your modelling must be doing well if you can afford what looked like the studded Louboutins - those would be in the $1500 plus range and Russ's sneakers would be around $1000. Unless things have changed in Louboutinland, Monsieur Louboutin does not give free shoes to anyone. Celebs and everyone else have to pay for them. Both her and Anfisa behaved horribly to one another. Whether it's real or for the show's drama, who knows. Pao, you are 30 years old with a husband. Things do seem very very rocky. Your hair flipping and flirting like body language when you were chatting with Juan was very telling. Is he your preferred love or will there be someone darkening your doorstep next season? Anfisa has your number and would not hesitate to call you out. The red hair was very unflattering.

Annie, you certainly told Ashley how things were and didn't leave anything out. Your assessment is probably correct. It is going to take time for David's family and children to warm to you. They and their dad have a lot of unresolved issues. Whatever background you did have in Thailand is not relevant to your new life in the US. Yes, you will be judged. Everyone does it.  I didn't appreciate David's ugly cry. He is not going to have kids with you. Get your Green Card, and then walk.

Jorge, it is very simple to take a paternity test. If it is negative, as you say it is, nothing will change. If it is positive, you may lose your wife. You have lied repeatedly to her and eventually she will walk out. And rightfully so. She has every right to not want you if you have a child with another woman - one who you never really mentioned, claimed you were not the father, the baby's mother has been pressing you for years for a paternity test, and still nothing. Just lie after lie.

Chantel, everyone in this mess is partly responsible. You instigate it with running to your parents and brother and sister about your marriage, they go in to the loop, Pedro gets dragged in and made the villain. Lather, rinse, repeat. Grow up, start to not talk to your parents about everything in your life. Finish nursing school and get a job. Pedro is sending $150 a month? Less than your weave and manicure. He is not harvesting the American dollar. He's only sending a pittance down to his family - pretty much what he can afford. You signed up for this when you married him.

Why would David and Luis be friends and in contact? Why does David offer advice on how to run people's relationships? He is living in a storage unit area, no real job and a 25 year old wife. Unbecoming for him with a Master's degree.

Molly is seeing another dude that is younger? If it is only a few years, no problem.  Like Danielle, she will get repeats of the same man until she learns her lessons. Looks like round 2.

Andrei, thank you for telling Libby's dad off. He probably can take some free or low cost English language courses at one of the colleges or immigrant centres in the area. I'd expect that he is on top of the paperwork to get himself permission to seek employment. Whether his father in law likes him or not, he should be thankful that his son in law has some self-respect.

Nicole, you really do need to ask Azan some hard questions about his previous 'relationships' and ways to get out of Morocco. There may be other women he hasn't exactly mentioned. He treats you with disrespect but you still want him. Of course, your prospects at home are not so great.

The catered lunch for the folks looked a little cheap.

It looked to me as if Nicole had instructed Azan to let her answer most questions. He’s a lying liar that lies. 

[Frozendiva]

Jorge comes across as immature, petty and vindictive in addition to being a lying liar who lies. He should make some arrangement to be with Anfisa til she gets her Green Card, and let her have a better life without him. The karma between them would be clear and settled.

[Christina]

The more I think about it, the more Jorge's ex comes across as shady, too. I immediately picked up on her wording and also thought she may have been older, like jail time for her older, but her claims that she told him to take a paternity test but didn't go to Child Support Enforcement to start the process or even buy a kit at the drugstore makes me wonder. 

Jorge's words mean nothing and maybe his ex didn't need or want child support, but she didn't have to go through court to have it done. She just kept saying she told him to do one if he wanted to, which he obviously would never get around to because he's lazy. I used to give her all the benefit of the doubt because Jorge is Jorge but listening to the TLC edited phone call pushes the truth meter to right in the middle of the two, with both equally likely to be the frauder. 

[Lynnlynnlynn586]

37 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Patrick, please chop the blond bun from your head. All you need is a scrunchie. Myriam, do stay in Paris, stay at your job, and make yourself a good life there. Patrick is nice as a friend.

Danielle, why are you driving 6 hours to meet some dude you chat with online? Seriously, he should be meeting you halfway. The only person you bring to a relationship is you. There is no Curse of Mohammed, like some Mohammed Mummy Movie with you screaming 'you frauded me' to the pile of bandages chasing you. Whether or not he received your messages, he should have replied to you or confirmed to you in some way that he was meeting you.

Cortney, why? He didn't want you in Spain.

Kirlyam, you are very pretty and far better than the folks on this tell-all.

Nice to see Josh's front teeth and that he is in a better place in life. Has his own home now, no roomies, no bad friends.

In part one of the dysfunctionfest:

Pao, your modelling must be doing well if you can afford what looked like the studded Louboutins - those would be in the $1500 plus range and Russ's sneakers would be around $1000. Unless things have changed in Louboutinland, Monsieur Louboutin does not give free shoes to anyone. Celebs and everyone else have to pay for them. Both her and Anfisa behaved horribly to one another. Whether it's real or for the show's drama, who knows. Pao, you are 30 years old with a husband. Things do seem very very rocky. Your hair flipping and flirting like body language when you were chatting with Juan was very telling. Is he your preferred love or will there be someone darkening your doorstep next season? Anfisa has your number and would not hesitate to call you out. The red hair was very unflattering.

Annie, you certainly told Ashley how things were and didn't leave anything out. Your assessment is probably correct. It is going to take time for David's family and children to warm to you. They and their dad have a lot of unresolved issues. Whatever background you did have in Thailand is not relevant to your new life in the US. Yes, you will be judged. Everyone does it.  I didn't appreciate David's ugly cry. He is not going to have kids with you. Get your Green Card, and then walk.

Jorge, it is very simple to take a paternity test. If it is negative, as you say it is, nothing will change. If it is positive, you may lose your wife. You have lied repeatedly to her and eventually she will walk out. And rightfully so. She has every right to not want you if you have a child with another woman - one who you never really mentioned, claimed you were not the father, the baby's mother has been pressing you for years for a paternity test, and still nothing. Just lie after lie.

Chantel, everyone in this mess is partly responsible. You instigate it with running to your parents and brother and sister about your marriage, they go in to the loop, Pedro gets dragged in and made the villain. Lather, rinse, repeat. Grow up, start to not talk to your parents about everything in your life. Finish nursing school and get a job. Pedro is sending $150 a month? Less than your weave and manicure. He is not harvesting the American dollar. He's only sending a pittance down to his family - pretty much what he can afford. You signed up for this when you married him.

Why would David and Luis be friends and in contact? Why does David offer advice on how to run people's relationships? He is living in a storage unit area, no real job and a 25 year old wife. Unbecoming for him with a Master's degree.

Molly is seeing another dude that is younger? If it is only a few years, no problem.  Like Danielle, she will get repeats of the same man until she learns her lessons. Looks like round 2.

Andrei, thank you for telling Libby's dad off. He probably can take some free or low cost English language courses at one of the colleges or immigrant centres in the area. I'd expect that he is on top of the paperwork to get himself permission to seek employment. Whether his father in law likes him or not, he should be thankful that his son in law has some self-respect.

Nicole, you really do need to ask Azan some hard questions about his previous 'relationships' and ways to get out of Morocco. There may be other women he hasn't exactly mentioned. He treats you with disrespect but you still want him. Of course, your prospects at home are not so great.

The catered lunch for the folks looked a little cheap.

Love this post!!!

[doyouevengohere]

2 hours ago, ECM1231 said:

She really is so pretty. I did not watch their season but I am a bit squicked out that she married him at age 20. How did they meet?

He was a mormon missionary in her country.  On their season he came across as a bit creepy- an older nerdy guy with a very young beautiful sheltered girl.  Now he just seems like a big dork, but they are probably the most normal couple in 90 day fiancee history.  They seem to be really in love so that's good.  Every time I see him I think he looks exactly like his mother and I can't unsee that.

 

Andrei- He worked like 2 jobs and saved up money  KNOWING that when he got here that he would not be able to work.

  Now he's here and can't work and yes his savings are almost gone.  So he HAS been contributing with his savings.  Liz needs to shut it and all of her family can shut up too.  He seems the type that when he will be able to work he will make darn sure that Liz is well taken care of.  They never need to take or ask for money from her family.

Edited July 23, 2018 by doyouevengohere

[Dobian]

TLC really is The Learning Channel.  Watching this crap is so embarrassing I have to listen to one of my history podcasts so I feel good about myself again.  So I learned something.

[MsSilverSpecs]

So, Paola expected Anfisa to be all buddy, buddy with her after she talked all that mess? What a delusional idiot. She looks like a damn clown.

[RedBagWithMakeup]

3 hours ago, Gigglepuff said:

Run, Nelson. 

OMG, Dannielle has that Annie Wilkes look in her eyes as she's driving. 

Well, she IS Mahammit's Number One Fan. She was gonna use "Neltson" to make 'im jealous and show 'im what he's missin'.

[bref]

Was anyone else picturing Nelson Muntz from the Simpsons? 

[Toaster Strudel]

Every time Tobo opened his mouth to speak, I wanted to put a sock in it. I have no patience for his self-righteous, condescending lectures.

Why doesn't he open up a life coach business from an empty storage unit and tell us all what we're doing wrong and how to live our lives, LOL. How dare he tell Molly what's right or wrong in her conflict with her Dominican rat, with whom he's been surreptitiously communicating and indulging his bad mouthing of her? STFU Tobo, he was so eager to take the side of the loser (that he must identify with), even seeing film evidence of Luis' douchey behavior didn't really change Tobo's worthless opinion. How dare he advise people on "family togetherness" with a haughty, knowing tone of voice. He knows nothing of the subject. He's been mooching off his family, his friends, embezzling money, and scurrying off to Thailand to escape.  Ashley, how Tobo met Annie reflects much worse on you POS father than it does on Annie. The nerve of Tobo to suggest that Nicole & Azan's relationship isn't legit enough. Tobo proposed to a prostitute within 10 days of meeting her, and she only loved him 80%. Then he has the audacity to mock Jorge for lying when he himself is a lying sack of garbage, never taking responsibility, and the King of Empty Promises (aka lies with undeliverables). The a-hole dared to call Anfisa smug while he pontificates, oozing on the sofa like a Buddha in a fat suit. I cannot stand the sight of him.

When Tobo tried to deceive Molly by minimizing the amount of contact Luis had with him, I was proud of Annie for putting the truth out there to Molly that Luis was in fact calling "a lot."

Russ looked pasty and anemic next to Pao, but I'm afraid the only remedy would have been for him to show up in full KISS regalia. Pao's smug face game was on point. She still has feelings for her ex-boyfriend (I suspect that's Juan, actually), I could read it on her face. She acts all annoyed with Juan yet she can't give up her "best friend." Sure.

I'm looking forward to next week when Pao & Annie, of all people, get all gleefully judgy over Anfisa's webcam past.

Jorge, a terrible, but experienced terrible liar was laughing at Azan's lies about not remembering which woman he was speaking to. Or maybe there were that many? He said the right thing for a change when refusing to talk about their sex life.

It's Anfisa's right to choose a man who doesn't have children with other women, especially if he lied about it. So, Molly, your judging a 22 yr old for not wanting to stepparent, after you tried and failed to force step-parenting on a 29 yr old man-child, you can keep it to yourself. STFU. Shame on her for "robbing the cradle" again on her next failed romance. I'm glad Olivia is walking away so she doesn't have to pick up the pieces of her bad decisions.
Azan is a lazy bum and he'll bring Nicole nothing but grief until he finds someone else to mooch off of. Maybe Mo's skank Luisa will be available.

I laughed when Jorge and Anfisa took all the pizza to their room. Maybe they wanted to force Tobo to eat a salad!

Edited July 24, 2018 by Toaster Strudel

[biakbiak]

1 hour ago, doyouevengohere said:

was a mormon missionary in her country.  On their season he came across as a bit creepy- an older nerdy guy with a very young beautiful sheltered girl. 

He came off creepy because when he first met her she was several years underage and he waited until she was old enough.

[vimsa3]

8 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

Azan initiates sex?  Tell me another story please....

Can it be that this is an act in front of the cameras and that he behaves totally different when they are not there? I think he possibly can’t be this unmanly in real life

[millennium]

I haven't watched all three hours yet, I'm about halfway.   But honestly, I'm bored shitless.   Lame questions, long, lingering gulfs of silence before people answer, Jorge and Anfisa walking off with TWO PIZZAS (from "Gotham Pizza" which by the way lends even more credence to David being The Penguin) ...

How is it possible to produce a boring show with a roomful of trainwrecks?

[Sienna]

Molly has absolutely NO self-awareness.

First, she defended David by saying that she knows what it's like to criticized for having with a much younger spouse. How exactly is that younger man working out for you, Molly? You and Luis are not exactly shining examples of how to overcome an age difference, you're more like a cautionary tale. Then she commented on Jorge's situation by bringing up her own absent babydaddies (not something I'd want to remind the world about). When she got snippy with Anfisa about how she working three jobs to raise a baby alone at 22, I prayed Anfisa would hit back with "Good for you, but I know how birth control works."

And when Olivia made the comment about how she didn't want Molly to move anyone else in, Molly's jaw dropped to the floor, as though she couldn't fathom why that might not be a good idea. This just minutes after watching video of her confrontation with Luis, and what it took to get him out of her house. She'll be DAMN lucky if he really does go quietly back to the DR. When she made the comment that he hadn't followed up with his Green Card paperwork, Pedro shot her a seriously disbelieving look, I wonder if he knows something she doesn't.

Molly, do yourself a favor and find a coping mechanism that isn't booze, fuckboi, or using your children as emotional crutches.

[renatae]

9 hours ago, iwasish said:

Notice Russ checking out Pao’s wardrobe in the green room.

Probably wants to make sure it's not painted on.

[jennylauren123]

On 7/15/2018 at 10:22 PM, PityFree said:

I want to know what kind of “nurse” Danielle is trying to become. No way she has the aptitude to become an RN. 

I have a dumb sister. She has trouble with all kinds of easy math, including adding small numbers. She got straight A's in nursing school and uses her RN degree like a club. I'm an RN! I'm an RN!

Just sayin'.

And yes, at a community college in Maryland...

Edited July 23, 2018 by jennylauren123

[Gobi]

5 hours ago, gingerella said:

THANK you for saying this. It's been bugging the everloving shit out of me since this rumor has been on this site. I feel it's incredibly distressing and sad that any woman - or man - from a developed country would make fun of, gleefully at times, another woman having to possibly engage in sex work to survive. I have spent a lot of time in Thailand and NObody, NO young girl there or any other country, dreams of being a sex worker when they grow up. In fact, I will also go another step further and say that I found the glee at renaming the David & Annie thread was also in extremely poor taste. It says a lot about our society when people think it's fun or funny to make fun of someone who may have had to resort to selling their body to survive. It's all the more shocking while we're globally in the midst of a movement directly related to women who have been forced to have sex to keep their jobs, etc. 

The above comment illustrates everything I just said above. Yes this is a snark site, but some things just are not cool to make fun of.

The only thing Penguin said that didn't make me laugh or want to slap him was something to the effect that because Annie is young, attractive, female, and Asian, people say she must be a prostitute. Is Bangkok really much worse than Amsterdam? Are all Dutch females prostitutes? It's been cleaned up, but I remember when there were herds, literally, of prostitutes waiting by the Lincoln and Holland tunnels in New York. Didn't mean that all New York females were prostitutes. Just because a young woman thinks she has a better shot at happiness in a foreign country (as wrong as she may be, in this instance), doesn't make her a prostitute.

[trimthatfat]

9 hours ago, iwasish said:

Maybe she never would have, but then there has been communication between them according to both of them.

Did Jorge say she was a high school classmate? The way she keeps saying he was young and she didn’t want to ruin his life makes me think she could be older, 

I got the impression that she was much older than him. I assumed he was 17 when this woman got pregnant. A 17 year old girl won’t immediately jump to “let me sacrifice my teen years and let my bf be free of responsibilities”. An adult would. I wonder how old she is.

9 hours ago, Adeejay said:

It seems as if Jorge and Anfisa came to fight.  The director clearly said we need Jorge to sit up.  Paolo tried to get Jorge's attention, but got the finger from Anfisa, instead.  Hate to say it, but I believe Pao can take Anfisa down.  

My money is on Anfisa. Paola might be able to get a few licks in, but Anfisa looks like she’s had some scrapping days.

8 hours ago, RedBagWithMakeup said:

I hope Olivia goes off to college in another state.

She won’t if it means leaving her sister behind with her mom and the man of the week. So sad.

8 hours ago, AussieBabe said:

Azan is more full of shit than a sewer. Dude, why would the interviewer harp on your relationship with an ex when you're applying to be with your current fiancee? And I don't want to see a wedding preview or special. You supposedly have the paperwork, and he still hasn't married you? Dumb, dumb, dumb. (As best I can tell, this was filmed in April because Molly and Luis's divorce was finalized in May, and Nicole was probably still in Morocco on the first 90 day visa.) 

Me thinks the relationship with the ex involved an engagement. How would the official have even known about an ex unless it was relevant to the applicant’s authenticity? Hmmm. Azan is a liar for sure.

Molly can kindly stfu about Anfisa staying with Jorge if he’s the father of that child. I actually appreciate that Anfisa is honest about not wanting to be in the child’s life. Better that than the child being hurt by Anfisa’s lack of desire for a relationship if she came to Jorge’s home. I know a few women who hate being step-parents and it’s really the kids who suffer. 

Edited July 23, 2018 by trimthatfat

[HeNeedsSomeMilk]

Just when I thought I couldn't dislike that bitch, Pao, any more than I already do, she gives me reason to loathe her Woody Woodpecker looking ass even more.  The fake indignation walk off was a planned move to get us all to look at her body in that sausage casing.  I'm not mad at the view, but damn, at least try to disguise how phony you are.  

Little bitch, Juan, dropped her shit out for the public to see.  Wouldn't surprise me in the least bit if he is orchestrating hook ups with boyfriend back home behind hayseed farmer , Roooossss's back   He's such dumb motherfucker.

Speaking of dumb motherfuckers...... if Chantel had as much brain as she does boobs and ass she'd be a Rhodes Scholar.  Instead, she hangs her tits out for the world to see while her mind hibernates.  Seriously woman?  Pedro is so invested in HIS family that he could give two shits less about yours.   He gets on my last nerve too; sick of both of them.

Molly is a lost cause.  I guess she needs a younger, stronger man to handle all that rack she's sporting.  Al least she isn't dangling them out like bait, something three of the other ladies should take note of.

Dick Pocket David is equally lost and that daughter, Ashley,  is a real piece of work.  I get she's hurt, but don't take it out on Annie, it's not her fault.  Who is she to judge any damn way?  It's not like she has lived such a pious life.  If Annie did work in the sex trade, so?  She's not doing it now; what's the problem?  

Anfisa and her sorry ass husband.   I never thought it would be on her side, but once I realized that she is the most honest and open of all the people on the show, I saw her in an entirely different light.  Glad she shunned that bitch Pao, who trashed her when she had her back up, that fucking Loren.  Gawd, I hate Pao.  I hate everything about her to include her irritating ass voice, shitty demeanor, and fucked up ways.  But, I digress, fuck Jorge too. Fat as he's gotten, his name should be gorge.  His family is equally shitty to Anfisa, especially Lourdes.  She should mind her own damn business.

Lastly, get that stupid fucking Shaun Robinson off the set, now and forever.  Do not, under any circumstance, replace her with that other idiot who hosted the "Live" shit show.   Hell, hire Steve Harvey, the worst he could do is call out the wrong name.

Edited July 23, 2018 by CafeAuLait
correct spelling and grammar

[renatae]

David's daughter has me wondering what she wants from him. "He doesn't spend as much time with his daughters as he does with her." What twenty-something thinks their parent should be around 24-7?

It does sound like he's been a really neglectful parent, but, girl, you are grown now. Time to cut the cord. You've admitted Annie has met with you, cooked for you, etc. and you are in contact with your dad. Do you expect to move in with them, or what?

[Granny58]

10 hours ago, annewithaneee said:

God, I am so sick of the narrative of "Annie was a prostitute". It's so retrograde and offensive.

Personally, I'm imagining that yes she was in sex work on some level or another. I've never been to Thailand, much less as a sex tourist, so I'm almost entirely basing this off of watching way too many random-ass documentaries on YouTube (so, you know, my sourcing on this is suspect as hell), but I'm imagining she probably worked in one of the many Thai bars where she was paid next to nothing to get Western men to buy beers by dancing and flirting (and perhaps yes singing karaoke while she's there) at the very least, and performing sex acts later at the man's hotel or some sort of rented room at most, with the lion's share of all proceeds going to bar owners and staff. And yes, some of these men she probably was scoping out as being a likely green card and source of much-needed money to send back to her family.

But even if she were hustling on a corner or working out of an outright brothel, why is this a reason to judge and dislike Annie? If she was a sex worker in Thailand, it was almost surely out of economic necessity, and as bleak as it is, David was probably her best ticket out. I take it as nearly a given that Annie was a bar girl of some sort, but that it's David who is nasty as all hell for it. This deflated balloon of a man spends years over there, severing contact with his family including his minor son, takes advantage of the fucked-up cultural norms that have led to thousands of women like Annie having to work in incredibly dangerous conditions to make literally a few bucks, and the show continues to drive the conversation about Annie's actions and past? It's David who deserves all the shaming and then some, not her.

WELL SAID!  I sat in a rage watching the Annie-shaming and it was too hard to type all that on a pad, much less get my thoughts so well organized.  So kudos to you for expressing yourself so well.  I agree 1000%.

[AussieBabe]

Pao and Russ aren't worth the mention.

Shaun Robinson is TERRIBLE. Good grief.

Jorge is just an ass. He won't take a DNA test. I don't think the ex is really after fame or anything. She doesn't want her name or face revealed. A true thirst bucket would've showed up when asked to come to the tell all instead of asking that her privacy be respected. It sounds like she might have been older. I picked up on that when she said Jorge was in high school. Someone who was the same age wouldn't have said that. I can buy that he was evading her. His BS excuse about giving the ex money and buying the child school clothes/supplies and saying it was a joke let's me know he's lying. He's claiming he's 100% sure he's not the father, but if you had sex, there's a possibility. Obviously someone failed biology and sex ed.

Pedro was killing me with his meme worthy faces and head tilts. His face when Azan was spewing his BS was pure comedy. 

Azan...I refuse to believe they have sex. This man goes Casper pale at the mention of a wedding (and the subsequent wedding night and every night after). He doesn't want to marry her. He likes the money and the fact that he doesn't have to work. What job does he think he's going to get in the States? It doesn't sound like he has a formal education. He doesn't seem to have any discernible skills or talent. The fact that he hasn't had a job in two or more years is going to be a red flag to most employers, and it might have been a problem with the government. You have no visible means of taking care of yourself or supporting yourself. Why would the US government let you in when you're not bringing anything to the table they bought? Other than prowling and preying on needy, insecure, desperate women like Nicole, what else does he have going on? Nicole was a barista at Starbucks, and eventually the TLC money will run out--if she hasn't sent most or all of it to him. Judging by her mum and stepfather, it sounds like she's sent thousands of dollars over the past 2-3 years. I can believe it if she was sending $200 at a time. That adds up fast. She wouldn't even let him speak because she knows his lies will be painfully obvious. How are you "pretty sure" someone is the one? I'm hoping it will implode on that wedding preview/special this coming Sunday. 

Spoiler

Here's to hoping her stepfather was right about them 86ing the wedding and her being back home in Florida.

[trimthatfat]

1 hour ago, renatae said:

David's daughter has me wondering what she wants from him. "He doesn't spend as much time with his daughters as he does with her." What twenty-something thinks their parent should be around 24-7?

It does sound like he's been a really neglectful parent, but, girl, you are grown now. Time to cut the cord. You've admitted Annie has met with you, cooked for you, etc. and you are in contact with your dad. Do you expect to move in with them, or what?

I honestly think she just wants her dad to admit he was a shitty, negligent father. Annie is just the easier person to attack. I do wish Ashley would focus on what her dad did. He was an ass before Annie was in the picture.

Watching Annie gleefully say it did look like Anfisa on the webcam, I had to roll my eyes. Was she not offended when she was shamed for allegedly participating in sex work? None of these women are better than the other.

Edited July 23, 2018 by trimthatfat

[Lion18]

11 hours ago, iwasish said:

I imagine she’s using her income from this show to fund her education.

I read that she is in college. She seems intelligent. Good for her

[seniorpatriot]

11 hours ago, PityFree said:

What??? Azan has to stay awake all night??

That was crazy saying he couldn't get a job because he has to take care of Baby Huey and may??? HUH?

[Bryce Lynch]

12 hours ago, HappyDancex2 said:

Guess Pao had to switch from fancy professional hair dye to Splat Red from Walgreens.

She looks like she is auditioning for the role of Jessica Rabbit in a stage version of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?".  

[CoachWristletJen]

13 hours ago, Granny58 said:

Minutes in and I already  hate Paola

Pao is horrible, and what's worse is she's kind of good at working on people, provided the people aren't very bright. 

She was vicious to Anfisa last season, but this time the comparative brains of the mean girls operation, Lauren, wasn't invited.

What's worse is that Paola made a sound point: What opened their vituperative tirade was Jorge's hangdog expression and poor me version of events. In other words, Jorge was the first person to throw Anfisa under the bus. Jorge is the one Anfisa should really be mad at!

Pao, no way could you 'take' Anfisa. She's way tougher than you even if she didn't box for a hobby.

Pao sounded like Mama Chantel when she was taking off her rings.

#TeamAnfisa

12 minutes ago, Bryce Lynch said:

She looks like she is auditioning for the role of Jessica Rabbit in a stage version of "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?".  

I was gonna say Ronald McDonald, but that works, too.