Meghan McCain: "Both Sides" Wannabe Tough Chick

[Badbea99]

My guess is she's been working on this with her team for at least several weeks to shut down the negative stories about her that have been all over the internet.  I can't believe she would keep something that she knows will garner sympathy private.  Not in her DNA.

[atlantaloves]

I don't believe THIS STORY either. 

[tinkerbell]

1 hour ago, bannana said:

She says in the article that she didn't want anyone to know, but then she says that she wants to raise awareness of miscarriages because it is a taboo subject. 

to Meghan, "taboo"  means, "something that was never relevant to me because it happened only to other people, until now."

[Lisa418722]

I want to feel sorry for her, but it just seems to be another "my baby died" along with "my father died."  She talks about her father holding his granddaughter.  I ran out of free NYT articles, did it say how far along she was. 

[falltime]

@Lisa418722  not that I saw.

[Medicine Crow]

3 hours ago, blondiec0332 said:

If there is a hell my seat is surely reserved because my first thought was she is lying.

I don't believe her either.  I think she's just looking for more attention!!!

[falltime]

if you can't read the nytimes article.,People has quotes from the article.

https://people.com/parents/meghan-mccain-suffered-miscarriage-baby-girl/

[Medicine Crow]

37 minutes ago, Lisa418722 said:

I want to feel sorry for her, but it just seems to be another "my baby died" along with "my father died."  She talks about her father holding his granddaughter.  I ran out of free NYT articles, did it say how far along she was. 

Of course not!!!

[suomi]

At the end of the article she says she pictures her father in the hereafter, holding his granddaughter in his hands - so I guess she was however far along that the gender of the fetus can be determined?

(At 7 weeks via blood test, that much I do know). 

[BuckeyeLou]

I wonder if this recent news about the miscarriage would explain her increasing rage & anger over everything?!  For me, she is Un-watchable, she does not seem to be able to process her grieve(or any other feelings), and I don't think being on TV is good for her mental health(I'm not a professional or anything, just my personal opinion).  

[Gemma Violet]

Here's the article:

A few weeks ago, I was part of the photo shoot for The New York Times Magazine’s cover story about ABC’s “The View.” It should have been a moment of triumph — a vindication of the show’s significance as a place at the center of political debate, a ratings boom, a must for the top tier of presidential candidates. I should have been proud. I knew my father would have been proud.

I look back at those pictures now, and I see a woman hiding her shock and sorrow. I am posed for the camera, looking stern and strong, representing my fellow conservative women across the country. But inside, I am dying. Inside, my baby is dying.

I knew I was pregnant before I formally knew I was pregnant. My body told me in all the ways women are familiar with. It told me in the same ways that I was miscarrying. The confirmation from my doctor came the day of that photo shoot, at the worst possible time.

I missed a few days of work. It wasn’t many, but given the job I have, it was enough to spark gossip about why I would be away from “The View.” This was not supposed to be public knowledge. I have had my share of public grief and public joy. I wish this grief — the grief of a little life begun and then lost — could remain private.

I am not hiding anymore. My miscarriage was a horrendous experience and I would not wish it upon anyone.

Yet for all its horrors, it is distressingly common. Estimates range from one in 10 to one in four pregnancies end in miscarriages. That’s about three million lost children in America each year. That is all the more reason women need to be able to speak about this publicly, without the stigma and the lack of knowledge that pervades the issue.

Because even to this day, the subject of a miscarriage carries so much cultural taboo. Miscarriage is a pain too often unacknowledged. Yet it is real, and what we have lost is real. We feel sorrow and we weep because our babies were real.

They were conceived, and they lived, fully human and fully ours — and then they died. We deserve the opportunity to speak openly of them, to share what they were and to mourn. More important, they deserve to be spoken of, shared and mourned. These children, shockingly small, shockingly helpless, entirely the work of our love and our humanity, are children.

We who mourn are their mothers.

The surprise of learning I was pregnant, many months ago now, swiftly turned to joy. With that joy came all the questions, plans and aspirations that every mother knows.

Even as the child is growing within you, vanishingly small and vulnerable, you are already wondering about the thousand things it will take to be a good parent. What sort of birth will I have? How will we decorate his room? His — goodness, what if it is a her? How will we arrange for school, for education? How will we childproof the home? What will we name him or her? Where will we live as this new little one grows up? How do we create a faith life that teaches and enriches our newest, most precious addition? How do we deserve this son, this daughter, this life we have made?

And on a less elevated note, but one every mother in media has considered: How am I going to be pregnant with everyone watching?

The expectation of a child drags you out of yourself and into a life not yours — yet for which you are responsible. For a brief moment, I had the privilege of seeing myself in the sisterhood of motherhood.

Knowing all the extraordinary mothers that I do — from my own, to my friends, to so many examples of women who have raised children in love and faith, in good times and bad — I knew I was prepared in at least one way.

I was prepared in the circle of women to whom I could turn for advice, for support, for love.

Then it all ended — as our child ended.

Since then, I have asked the same question every mother asks who loves and loses a child: Why? Why was this light and joy held before us, and then the world where this child drew breath cast into shadow? Why was an innocent life created in the image of God and then abruptly snuffed out?

I blamed myself. Perhaps it was wrong of me to choose to be a professional woman, working in a high-pressure, high-visibility, high-stress field, still bearing the burden of the recent loss of my father and facing on top of that the arrows that come with public life. This is not a complaint. This is reality. I blamed my age, I blamed my personality. I blamed everything and anything a person could think of, and what followed was a deep opening of shame.

This, I told myself, is the reason my body is a rock-strewn wasteland in which no child may live. This is my fault.

Yet it is not my fault. Fault and blame are not at work here. When Job demanded answers of God, God reminded him: “Where were you when I laid the earth’s foundation? Tell me, if you understand.” I do not understand. Life and death are beyond our power. This miscarriage has reminded me of that truth. And it has reminded me of one other truth: Love is within our power.

I had a miscarriage. I loved my baby, and I always will. To the end of my days I will remember this child — and whatever children come will not obscure that. I have love for my child. I have love for all the women who, like me, were briefly in the sisterhood of motherhood, hoping, praying and nursing joy within us, until the day the joy was over.

You are not alone.

When my father passed, I took refuge in the hope that someday we would be united in the hereafter. I still imagine that moment, even as I trust that a loving God will see it happen. Now I imagine it a bit differently. There is my father — and he is holding his granddaughter in his hands.

[bella1716]

Didn't Meghan call the NYT the "New York Slimes" right in front of the editor in chief during an interview. Now she's using them for positive press gtfoh. 😒

[Picture It. Sicily]

First of all, you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a Facebook post of someone talking about miscarriage, stillbirth and/or infant death. So, taboo my ass. Just like how everyone shares their grief about death on SM. Stop acting like you are the great taboo shatterer. Second, I don't like what this person has turned me into, because my first though was "yeah right". I don't believe she was pregnant. And if she was pregnant, I don't give a shit about her miscarriage. Fuck her. I am a person with tremendous empathy for damn near everyone. And I can't muster any for her.

[maggiemae]

Agree with all of you.

And while on her rehab tour notice she finally addressed the bigotry of Trump twice this week - and in terms of how it related to HER because of her adopted sister. That would be the one that does not want attention, btw, as she has told us time and again. Actually MM is the only sibling seeking attention.

[Medicine Crow]

... and furthermore, Sunny, being the God-fearing woman that she is, would NOT shun a "colleague" who recently suffered a miscarriage.  JMHO!!!

[bella1716]

hmm, she was pregnant but at the same time drinking jack daniels and shooting guns?

[FairyDusted]

The timing of this announcement is suspect. I never like to doubt a woman about this but........

[bannana]

WTF is this stigma and taboo she is talking about?  So many women have miscarriages, and there is no taboo about talking about it.  This is crazy.  I have no idea why she wrote this article other than to appeal once again for sympathy.  You should see the twitter replies out there (there are some pretty awful ones too though).

Why would you want everyone tweeting you and emailing you and calling you and sending you flowers over your miscarriage.  Who would want that?  She is nuts.

I do believe she had a miscarriage.  But this is all so contrived and she takes the opportunity to position the ratings of the View, that it's the top place for Presidential candidates.  She takes the opportunity to suggest that her high stress job with all the arrows shot at her may have caused her miscarriage.  When those arrows are self-inflicted.  I notice she didn't blame her hard-drinking ways which may in fact have contributed to a miscarriage.

4 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

This, I told myself, is the reason my body is a rock-strewn wasteland in which no child may live. This is my fault.

Oh FFS, shut up NutMeg!  She literally embarrasses herself every time she speaks or writes anything.  "A rock-strewn wasteland"? 🙄  There is something seriously wrong with her.  Why her mother or siblings or friends don't set her straight, I don't know.

Thank you @Gemma Violet for posting the article, I couldn't get it either.  Even though it irks me to read it! 🙃

[FairyDusted]

It’s not so much that I am saying it didn’t happen but this was April? Since then she has lost her mind and called Joy a bitch just to name one screwy asshole display. Seems gross to use such a loss to counter all the latest bullshit going around. 

On the other hand this is Meghan we are talking about. 🤷🏻‍♀️

[athousandclowns]

What pray tell is the stigma of miscarriage? If it means you are going to use it in the public on your job for a year, yeah you might suffer some more “Arrows.” 

She has always given lip service like   she didn’t want children so is she going to claim it was planned? Miscarriage  happens because the pregnancy Is not viable as I was told so many years ago.   

Good point that she has some hateful rages after that which I will say is not an excuse for a loss like that.  It should put things in perspective, make you a kinder human being. She should be heartbroken for children ripped from their parents and held in cages. 

Not buying it. Save me a seat on that bullet train to Hell. Which reminds me I’ve never heard her make bible references ever. 

Edited July 20, 2019 by athousandclowns
Awful typo

[movingtargetgal]

Why would she go to another news outlet to make this announcement?  Is she using this as a ploy for sympathy during her contract negotiations with ABC?  The network bigwigs must be PISSED.  This is Meghan playing hardball.  I think she thinks that this will show all of us on social media, her co-hosts and producers that we have been so wrong to be so mean to her.  A pathetic bid to make her detractors feel guilty.  Kind of like when I was 5 years old and my mother punished me.  All I could think of was that if I died while sitting in my room, my mother would feel guilty for the rest of her life. :)  Sort of  like this  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtEaka1QeV0

Edited July 20, 2019 by movingtargetgal

[bella1716]

Oh I can just picture it now.....

Sunny: "Children are really suffering at the border"

Meghan: "Well I had a miscarriage, so I invented suffering. I also invented having children. I too was once a child by the way."

Joy: *Tells a funny joke about children being a handful*

Meghan: "aRe yOu SAyInG yOuReeeee GLADDDD I hAD A mIsCarRiAgeEE???" 

Whoopi: "Welcome to the view, welcome to the view, welcome to the view!!!"

Meghan: "Look. I had a miscarriage. I know ALOT about pain and grief. I'm not scared of talking about grief. I'm a tough chick. I come on this show everyday and I try my best to give my point of view in a very *insert SAT vocab word of the day* way. My job is hard. I go through a lot. My father is John McCain. I come from a military family. The democrats are murderers. I had a miscarriage. So no, I do not feel welcomed to the view."

Audience: ...........................................😐

[SuzieSioux]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Meghan is the type of person who will always have a story like this to pull out when she's getting criticised too much on her own behaviour. She can't face the justified criticism, so she brings out an emotive topic like this to embarrass people into being nicer to her. And if they aren't nicer to her, so her thoughts go, they'll look awful for piling on to someone who's suffering. She's a pig. Except that's mean to pigs. Maybe a "ciunna lorda" would be a better description (capisci, Joy?)

I went to school with girls like her. I think we're all wise to her game.
 

7 hours ago, Picture It. Sicily said:

I am a person with tremendous empathy for damn near everyone. And I can't muster any for her.

Totally understand. I'm made fun of for being way too sensitive about other people by friends and family, and I have no empathy for Meghan either.

[HaaCHOO]

I can't read the URL/article without registering/subscribing. 

• How far along was she and how does she know it was "a daughter"? 
• Were they trying to get pregnant?
• Were they happy about it? 

[blondiec0332]

3 minutes ago, HaaCHOO said:

I can't read the URL/article without registering/subscribing. 

• How far along was she and how does she know it was "a daughter"? 
• Were they trying to get pregnant?
• Were they happy about it? 

The article does not answer any of those questions. All the article does is further Meghan's narrative of look at me I'm suffering like nobody else has ever suffered.

[HaaCHOO]

A L L    A B O A R D  ? ? ?

[Spartan Girl]

9 minutes ago, blondiec0332 said:

The article does not answer any of those questions. All the article does is further Meghan's narrative of look at me I'm suffering like nobody else has ever suffered.

Yup. I want to feel sorry for her, but I'm too busy trying to get over my disgust that she's upset that Trump is making it harder for her to criticize Ilhan Omar without her seeming like a racist. Seriously, Trump might get this woman killed by his Looney Tune cult, and THAT'S your big concern?! Fuck you!

[Cementhead]

Please tell me they serve alcohol on our trip to Hell because I am going need a lot of it.  The bit about 'her father holding her daughter' alone requires many glasses of wine.  🙄x100.  I literally said out loud, to nobody, Are you fucking kidding me?  when I read that bit. 

[ginger90]

Meghan and her husband have both tweeted a link to the piece she “wrote”. Interesting, from the woman who said, “only 7% of the American public are active on Twitter.”.

Edited July 20, 2019 by ginger90

[HaaCHOO]

10 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

"I had a miscarriage. I loved my baby, and I always will. To the end of my days I will remember this child — and whatever children come will not obscure that. I have love for my child. I have love for all the women who, like me, were briefly in the sisterhood of motherhood, hoping, praying and nursing joy within us, until the day the joy was over."

So, dear, suffering Meghan, now that you have experienced pregnancy and the love and loss of a "baby daughter," will you ever empathacize/sympathize with the women who make/made the difficult decisions to terminate their pregnancies--especially those who also considered them daughters or sons and will always remember them.   

[ginger90]

IMO, she’s going to use this as her story to include the word, infanticide. (Which technically will be misused)

[Coffeewinewater]

12 hours ago, tinkerbell said:

to Meghan, "taboo"  means, "something that was never relevant to me because it happened only to other people, until now."

Bingo!

She didn't want anyone to know so, she puts in the New York Times.  🙄

I also wanted to add, I think it's odd that we never heard of her Puerto Rican "family" through out all of the Maria conversations.  Hmmmm.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Coffeewinewater

[Haleth]

I looked back at the posts from the week after she was out sick, thinking maybe her behavior might have been different?  Nope.  Same ol' criticism of AOC and Omar, plus lots of pontificating about what the Dems need to do (or else we deserve trump).  If she was grieving a miscarriage she sure hid it well.

I do believe it's true she had a miscarriage, but this faux grief (and her attitude of "poor little me will get through this somehow") reeks of manipulation.  Her dad's been gone for almost a year; this will give her some fresh new hardship to bring up in every conversation for the next year, despite the fact we know she wasn't interested in having children.  Miscarriage is tough, but certainly not a stigma and not something you advertise in the NYT unless you are looking for attention.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Haleth

[PennyPie18]

Don't believe this either. Remember all those times she remarked how she didn't like or want kids? Me too, that's why this is just another publicity stunt dreamed up by her chubby hubby, Ben what's his name.  I suffered 3 miscarriages, so it's not that I haven't had that sad experience.  I won't be watching much anymore, since every, single subject will be taken over by her " miscarriage grief and suffering", just like it still is about her dad's death. A year from now, she'll still be talking about this. After my 3 losses, I cried a lot, but didn't want to talk about it, let alone go so public with it, like she did. Okay, here's another thought: Maybe there was no pregnancy and this was just another way to keep her in the news? I also thought the timing was just a little suspicious.....guess I'll be joining that train to hell!!!!🚆

[Gemma Violet]

2 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

I can't read the URL/article without registering/subscribing. 

The article is posted upthread.

[Tosia]

Many pregnancies end in miscarriage within the first 3 months, and doctors will advise women not to announce or make big plans....just in case. Carrie Underwood came out this past year with her fertity problems..specifically 2 or more miscarriages,  with less drama and more heart. 

My mom had several-- 3 at least or more-- miscarriages as did my aunt.  My mom was, a heavy smoker,  but not my aunt.  I had to have ectopic... tubal...surgery at 8 weeks, to save my life. I was sad, but pragmatic as well. 

Not NYT sad (sic). 

There's no stigma, just sadness or relief, depending on the situation. 

MM is sickening to use this issue to add to her victimhood. 

[Coffeewinewater]

On 7/19/2019 at 1:03 AM, tinkerbell said:

well, this is out of character for Meghan!  

Catching up on her thread. I just saw this. Her people really want rehab her image. 

Her apology is so un Meghan. 

[OnTime]

9 hours ago, movingtargetgal said:

Why would she go to another news outlet to make this announcement?  Is she using this as a ploy for sympathy during her contract negotiations with ABC?

And she was just rambling about how her friends don't have a "platform" and she has a show.

So Meghan doesn't use her own "platform" that she has and her friends don't?

[OnTime]

14 hours ago, BuckeyeLou said:

I wonder if this recent news about the miscarriage would explain her increasing rage & anger over everything

Oh, she had plenty of rage and anger since she started on this show, it just didn't start with this "miscarriage".

[Vanderboom]

3 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

So, dear, suffering Meghan, now that you have experienced pregnancy and the love and loss of a "baby daughter," will you ever empathacize/sympathize with the women who make/made the difficult decisions to terminate their pregnancies--especially those who also considered them daughters or sons and will always remember them.   

This will only make Meghan vilify Other Women as being Ungrateful for their chance to Bring Life into The World when she, The Most Deserving of Us All, was denied that chance.

I actually do feel sorry for Meghan. Even if the pregnancy was unplanned,  she was saddened and disappointed by the miscarriage.  I'm sure that experiencing a miscarriage within a year of her adored father's death was devastating. I hope that the upcoming break and time with her family will help to heal her.

I also feel that she does not have the strength of character to process all this in a healthy way. She seems to lack many of the tools we have for healing (empathy, self-reflection, humor,  etc.), so I'm pretty sure this will intensify her Ultimate Victim posturing and be weaponized against people who disagree with her, particularly concerning abortion.

However, I hope I'm wrong.

[CynicalGirl]

She says in the article "the surprise of learning I was pregnant" so I assume that means it was not planned. 

I won't go so far as to say I think she's lying about it, because no matter how horrible I think she is, I don't want to believe that. But I do believe it's a ploy for sympathy; at first she says she wanted to keep it private, well then why didn't she? She also says she returned to work after 2 days because rumors would have started about her. Please. 

I do remember some speculation she was pregnant but not sure if it fits the time frame. 

[OnTime]

14 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

I missed a few days of work. It wasn’t many, but given the job I have, it was enough to spark gossip about why I would be away from “The View.”

No Meghan, it did not "spark gossip" about why you were gone.  We were just happy to be "Meghan free".

You've "missed a few days of work"  plenty of times before this and no one really cared!

[ElsbethTascioni]

FSM bless every single one of you on the hell train with me, because my first thought when I saw that article was "fuck her". I've had multiple miscarriages, one of which required a D&C, people like her make it hard for women like me to get comprehensive healthcare so that we can actually go on to have babies. I don't have time for her BS jell-0 shot flavored tears, when she wants to legislate women's healthcare choices away. 

[Blissfool]

4 hours ago, HaaCHOO said:

So, dear, suffering Meghan, now that you have experienced pregnancy and the love and loss of a "baby daughter," will you ever empathacize/sympathize with the women who make/made the difficult decisions to terminate their pregnancies--especially those who also considered them daughters or sons and will always remember them.   

No because she's suffered a miscarriage and cannot imagine terminating a pregnancy voluntarily.*

This will become her anti-abortion argument from now on.

*FTR she has not said this. I am just guessing what her rhetoric will become.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Blissfool

[OnTime]

15 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

I blamed myself. Perhaps it was wrong of me to choose to be a professional woman, working in a high-pressure, high-visibility, high-stress field, still bearing the burden of the recent loss of my father and facing on top of that the arrows that come with public life. This is not a complaint.

What is this "high-pressure, high-visibility, high-stress field" that she choose?

"Working" one hour a day at The View???

[tinkerbell]

7 minutes ago, OnTime said:

What is this "high-pressure, high-visibility, high-stress field" that she choose?

"Working" one hour a day at The View???

Thank you!   I was just coming here to post that same thought.   It PISSES me off that Meghan thinks her "job", the job of talking on TV for an hour, 5 days a week, is a high pressure  job.  Compared to WHAT?  

I've had a lot of jobs in my life, and I WILL SAY that every job I've ever had has been a higher pressure job that what she does. 

[OnTime]

15 hours ago, Gemma Violet said:

And on a less elevated note, but one every mother in media has considered: How am I going to be pregnant with everyone watching?

Well Meghan, "everyone" isn't pay as much attention to you as you might think.  Stop thinking so highly of yourself.

Gosh, every "mother in the media" (that is a new one) has been able to do it.

P.S. I am  having fun ripping apart this article!!

[TheGreenKnight]

3 hours ago, OnTime said:

Oh, she had plenty of rage and anger since she started on this show, it just didn't start with this "miscarriage".

Yeah, there's definitely no way this explains or excuses her behavior. She's been the same since Day 1. It escalated to the point that she was cursing people out because she got away with so much and never suffered any real consequences. She's just an old-fashioned narcissist.

2 hours ago, OnTime said:

What is this "high-pressure, high-visibility, high-stress field" that she choose?

"Working" one hour a day at The View???

LOL  And if there's any stress or tension at The View these days, it's because she caused it herself. How privileged can the woman be to think that being paid a million dollars to sit in a seat 5 hours a week to do nothing except scream at her co-workers and the audience, read "her" thoughts off of blue cards, and act like a psycho in general is "hard work"? She is an embarrassment.

[tinkerbell]

Can I say something?   

Back in March, I made these  2 posts:   

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March 26 · 

  On 3/26/2019 at 12:43 PM, Vixenstud said:

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What in the bluedilly blow up doll?!  Dang, she's got some tig ol' bitties.

Sometimes big swollen tits are an early sign of pregnancy.

Meghan has said in the past that she wasn't sure she wanted kids. Shes at the age where she can't really delay that decision too much longer. Maybe she decided in favor?

Just saying. 

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March 29 · 

I said a week or so as go that I thought Meghan might be pregnant. I'm going by the fullness in her face, and increase in her boobage.

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So -   It seems that every once in a while I DO know what I'm talking about. 

[Anthea84]

You know who else had a miscarriage Michelle Obama when she was alone in Chicago.

I think this is a ploy. Meghan team saw the good will Mrs Obama got after telling this story and they decided to use. Meghan and her husband are so self centered. They transform everything about them. Can she be asked to leave?