Joe & Kendra: Looking Forward To Side Hugs

[BitterApple]

Congrats to Joe and Kendra. Garrett is a handsome baby and I really like the name.

I'm glad Kendra had enough sense to deliver in a hospital. 

I was also shocked to see a Duggar residing in a bright, clean, airy home. Obviously Kendra's mother did a much better job training her to be a homemaker than Michelle did with her daughters.

Edited June 10, 2018 by BitterApple

[queenanne]

Congratulations on your good-looking little burrito, Joe and Kendra.

[andromeda331]

Cute baby. Cute name. I'm glad she went to the hospital. I'm surprised by how bright and clean their home looked.

[kokapetl]

FYI, Joe’s middle name is Garrett. 

Edited June 10, 2018 by Kokapetl

[Fostersmom]

3 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

I wanted to fist pump when I saw the hospital bracelets. Finally a Duggar with some sense...alright Jinger, your turn! 

I wouldn't be so sure about the hospital birth just quite yet. We don't know she started there, just that she need up there, just like Jill and Joy. I'd LOVE to know she didn't attempt a home birth with a collie, a person they flagged down on the street, and Jill as her medical care team, but until I see otherwise, it's a total crap shoot. 

[Spencer Hastings]

I saw this topic bumped so I knew something must have happened. ;) 

Garrett is a good choice.  Nice family name.  David seems to be a popular middle name amongst John David’s nephews. 

[Fuzzysox]

5 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

I saw this topic bumped so I knew something must have happened. ;) 

Garrett is a good choice.  Nice family name.  David seems to be a popular middle name amongst John David’s nephews. 

I love how he used David for his middle name and not Boob. Goes to show you how much more respected John David is than good ole dad.

[MamaMax]

12 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

Honestly, my only snark is that the flowers to the left of Kendra that were on the counter looked dead. 

Otherwise, I bet Joe did not opt to nap at all during Kendra's labor. (**cough** Smuggar **cough**)

I don't know if we'll find out how long Kendra labored, but I'm willing to bet it wasn't 70 hours. (**cough** Jill **cough)

Kendra gave birth to a smaller baby compared to Jill, Jessa, and Joy, and may be more in line with Anna or a little smaller. The jury is out on Jinger to determine whether delivering big babies is a Duggar daughter thing. Jinger is the only Duggar daughter thus far to be having a girl, so there's that.

ETA: Meredith was the smallest of SmugAnna's children at 7 lbs. 14 oz.

Yeah, I hate throwing away flowers if they have any oomph left in them at all...I would have just cut off the heads of the dead roses and left the rest.

 

I was enjoying the way Joe looks at Kendra with the same adoring gaze usually only displayed by the women folk for their headships. They are cute together for sure. May it last. 

[Caracoa1]

I'm happy to hear all is well with Kendra and the new baby.  The truth is....the grandchildren are coming fairly quick now and people are starting to lose interest.  

[Lady Edith]

Is that the inside of the cabin?  If so, that’s pretty spacious!  And airy!  Not what I expected at all. 

Yeah I wouldn’t put too much emphasis on the hospital bracelet. She may have delivered the baby at home and they took him to the hospital for newborn tests (they would’ve banded mama for this as well). Because I’m sure Jilly’s medical thingies do not include a pulse ox or supplies for a heel prick test. But I’m certain they will yell it to the Ozarks and beyond if she had a successful home birth.  Because told you so...  

The pic of the three of them looks like a pic in the hospital room, against the privacy curtain. Maybe a going home shot?  And Garrett’s swaddle looks to be professional grade.  

[graefin]

Doesn't Joe have a hospital wristband on too?

[BitterApple]

I guess we'll have to wait for more details, but Kendra looks way too cute and chipper to have suffered for hours at home only to end up as an emergency transfer. If you think back to Joy, Jill and Jessa, they looked absolutely wrecked after their first deliveries. 

Edited June 10, 2018 by BitterApple

[xwordfanatik]

14 hours ago, EmeraldGirl said:

Aww, I’m happy for them. They both seem like genuinely sweet kids who found each other in all that mess. Of course they’re still too young, but Kendra is glowing happy. I can’t snark on anything.  

What is a Joe doing for work? And that place looks cute and clean - unlike Joy’s mess.

I agree.  They seem the best suited for one another that I've seen in that family.  

Kendra's mother obviously was a much better mother than Ma Kettle, just from what I've seen with Kendra.  Joe seems like a nice easygoing guy, and not in the least like his oldest brother.  

I just hope JoKen will be moderate in their family size.  Cute video with no tittering!  

[Catfin]

Does Pops Caldwell have insurance coverage of some sort? Kendra can stay on it through age 26. I wonder if that played into it

[Booking It]

35 minutes ago, Catfin said:

Does Pops Caldwell have insurance coverage of some sort? Kendra can stay on it through age 26. I wonder if that played into it

I find it to be incredibly sad that Kendra can still be on her dad's insurance when her own son is in first grade (and probably without being on anybody's health insurance himself!). 

[Christina87]

4 hours ago, Caracoa1 said:

I'm happy to hear all is well with Kendra and the new baby.  The truth is....the grandchildren are coming fairly quick now and people are starting to lose interest.  

Yep. She gave birth YESTERDAY and this is already the fourth or fifth topic down. 

[Mollie]

5 minutes ago, Christina87 said:

Yep. She gave birth YESTERDAY and this is already the fourth or fifth topic down. 

And no Congratulations videos!  

[GleamingMist]

The girls are probably all jealous of Kendra's bounce back (she looks amazing and happy), tiny baby and easy hospital birth to post videos?  Just a speculation.  Or everyone is out of fucks to give. 

They look so happy though!!  I think that's the most genuine new baby pic we've seen of all the couples.  The other girls, especially Joy, looked like they'd been hit by semis after giving birth. 

[Gemma Violet]

I liked Kendra's maternity smock in that video.  It's not one of those stuffed-sausage tops that Jill and Jessa are famous for.

[floridamom]

If there were any home birth plans that went out the window and she headed quickly to the hospital, we'll hear about it soon enough, I think. Why don't they just state what the plan was and what actually happened to end all the speculation? I 'll never know. 

[McManda]

Everyone keeps referencing a video. Did I miss it? The only video I can find is the generic "had a baby" video on the US Weekly page that is just a voiceover and footage from there gender reveal. Is there a newer one?

[Loves2Dance]

3 hours ago, Christina87 said:

Yep. She gave birth YESTERDAY and this is already the fourth or fifth topic down. 

They're too vanilla to snark on most of the time. 

Joe seems like a down to earth, loving guy who clearly loves his wife and his life.

Kendra, albeit young, is happy and down to earth if not a bit giggly.

They cause zero drama, had a zero drama delivery (per the no complications which is why I have a feeling they started and ended at the hospital) and don't do anything really crazy...they're boring. And boring is good. But boring is hard to snark on. 

[ginger90]

7 minutes ago, McManda said:

Everyone keeps referencing a video. Did I miss it? The only video I can find is the generic "had a baby" video on the US Weekly page that is just a voiceover and footage from there gender reveal. Is there a newer one?

http://www.tlc.com/embed?page=303611

[lianau]

21 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Obviously Kendra's mother did a much better job training her to be a homemaker than Michelle did with her daughters.

I hate to defend Michelle but Kendra's mother doesn't have 19 kids . If Michelle had stopped after she had her breakdown instead of working to get pregnant again and again , I think she'd been a more effective mother. 

[Marigold]

Kendra and Joe have a nice house.  They look very happy together .  Joe seems to be a more one of the more normal Duggars. 

[doodlebug]

9 hours ago, graefin said:

Doesn't Joe have a hospital wristband on too?

Yes he does.  Makes it more likely that the baby was born in the hospital.  Of course, we don't know if that was the plan all along, but it does give me hope.

Their cabin looks bright and welcoming; very homey.

[Nysha]

On 6/9/2018 at 5:19 PM, yogi2014L said:

Also I wonder if/why they chose the names to honor Duggar relatives only? Or maybe she just like Garrett?

Since it's Joe's middle name, they're more likely thinking they're naming Garrett after his dad, not after his dad's relatives. 

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Does Pops Caldwell have insurance coverage of some sort? Kendra can stay on it through age 26. I wonder if that played into it

Once she got married she was no longer eligible to be on her parent's insurance.

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I hate to defend Michelle but Kendra's mother doesn't have 19 kids . If Michelle had stopped after she had her breakdown instead of working to get pregnant again and again , I think she'd been a more effective mother. 

On the other hand, Kendra's mother hasn't made a living from proclaiming on national television that her girls have been raised to be wives and mothers. If that's all you think your daughters are able to be AND you keep them home until they get married, you've got enough time to teach them how to be good at it.

Edited June 11, 2018 by Nysha

[Rabbittron]

For Christ's sake What the fuck a packnplay? Why didn't you just buy a fucking real crib?

[kokapetl]

16 hours ago, BitterApple said:

I guess we'll have to wait for more details, but Kendra looks way too cute and chipper to have suffered for hours at home only to end up as an emergency transfer. If you think back to Joy, Jill and Jessa, they looked absolutely wrecked after their first deliveries. 

 

The magic of drugs, aka Kate Middleton’s secret?

Edited June 11, 2018 by Kokapetl

[GeeGolly]

Wouldn't it be wild if Joe and Kendra end up being the breakout stars of Counting On, along with Jeremy and Jinger? The nice home, setting boundaries with the clan, a well planned safe birth, etc.

Jessa's at home cleaning and painting, planning a hospital birth and praying for twin girls.

[kokapetl]

8 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

They're too vanilla to snark on most of the time. 

Joe seems like a down to earth, loving guy who clearly loves his wife and his life.

Kendra, albeit young, is happy and down to earth if not a bit giggly.

They cause zero drama, had a zero drama delivery (per the no complications which is why I have a feeling they started and ended at the hospital) and don't do anything really crazy...they're boring. And boring is good. But boring is hard to snark on. 

A charlatan like Theresa Caputo could practically “psychically” foresee the kid’s entire life. 

[ginger90]

5 hours ago, Rabbittron said:

For Christ's sake What the fuck a packnplay? Why didn't you just buy a fucking real crib?

I seem to recall, although I can’t find it, a tour of the nursery. It was very early in her pregnancy, and there was a crib. Perhaps they are going to use the Pack 'n Play as a bassinet in their room.

[cdp73]

6 hours ago, Nysha said:

Once she got married she was no longer eligible to be on her parent's insurance.

From the Dept of Labor:  The Affordable Care Act requires plans and issuers that offer dependent child coverage to make the coverage available until a child reaches the age of 26. Both married and unmarried children qualify for this coverage. This rule applies to all plans in the individual market and to all employer plans.

It's stupid that coverage is provided to married children.  If you are old enough to get married, you should be responsible for your own insurance.

Topic:  I wonder if Jill and Anna are getting baby fever again.  If not now, I'm sure it will happen when Jinger has her girl.

[Jynnan tonnix]

7 hours ago, Rabbittron said:

For Christ's sake What the fuck a packnplay? Why didn't you just buy a fucking real crib?

As I recall, we didn't buy a crib until our first outgrew his bassinet. We had our house built with the upstairs unfinished (there was no wallboard up there, even) to save money. Much of the interior was a DIY project to start with, and there was no space for a crib until we got that done anyway. 

My daughter has a crib for her baby, but thus far (2 1/2 months), the baby has only napped in either the bassinet or pack'n'play, so I don't know that there is any great rush to have a crib right away.

[mythoughtis]

5 hours ago, cdp73 said:

From the Dept of Labor:  The Affordable Care Act requires plans and issuers that offer dependent child coverage to make the coverage available until a child reaches the age of 26. Both married and unmarried children qualify for this coverage. This rule applies to all plans in the individual market and to all employer plans.

It's stupid that coverage is provided to married children.  If you are old enough to get married, you should be responsible for your own insurance.

Topic:  I wonder if Jill and Anna are getting baby fever again.  If not now, I'm sure it will happen when Jinger has her girl.

The parents are the ones that get to decide that. No one is forcing a parent to keep married children over 18 on their insurance. It just allows you to do so. Married people under 26 aren’t really any more/less  likely to have a job that provides affordable insurance than singles. It’s usually only a few extra dollars cost to the parent- and they can always hit the married child up for the amount if they feel like it. 

My younger son stayed on our insurance until he was 26 because the extra cost for him was $50 monthly as an extra dependent.  his job wanted $250 a month premium as a member.  It was a cheap way of us helping him out. 

 

Why shouldn’t the Caldwell’s be able  to do the same? 

Edited June 11, 2018 by mythoughtis

[irisheyes]

12 hours ago, Rabbittron said:

For Christ's sake What the fuck a packnplay? Why didn't you just buy a fucking real crib?

We had a crib, but used a pack-n-play with each newborn in our room.  It’s really nice when you’re getting up two to three (or more) times a night. We moved them into a crib when they were mostly sleeping through the night. Plus, they’re great on all those trips to Big Sandy. ?

[Mollie]

Three whole days since the baby's birth and not one Congratulations! video from any of Joe's siblings!  Something is terribly wrong in Duggarland.

[Normades]

1 hour ago, mythoughtis said:

The parents are the ones that get to decide that. No one is forcing a parent to keep married children over 18 on their insurance. It just allows you to do so. Married people under 26 aren’t really any more/less  likely to have a job that provides affordable insurance than singles. It’s usually only a few extra dollars cost to the parent- and they can always hit the married child up for the amount if they feel like it. 

My younger son stayed on our insurance until he was 26 because the extra cost for him was $50 monthly as an extra dependent.  his job wanted $250 a month premium as a member.  It was a cheap way of us helping him out. 

 

Why shouldn’t the Caldwell’s be able  to do the same? 

With the state of insurance coverage in the US, I see nothing stupid about allowing your adult child to stay on  your insurance, especially if, as in the case above, it makes financial sense.  People really struggle to have decent coverage and it's particularly difficult on young adults just starting out.  Nothing stupid about that in my book. 

Kudos to you for helping your son out!!

[Spencer Hastings]

I would think the Caldwells would keep Kendra on their insurance for as long as possible.  It may not even cost anything extra.  My insurance plan is the same cost no matter how many dependents you add.  A person who has 1 child is paying the same as the Duggar who has 19 children.  It seems ludicrous if you have only 1 but if you have several...might as well keep them all. 

[madpsych78]

50 minutes ago, Mollie said:

Three whole days since the baby's birth and not one Congratulations! video from any of Joe's siblings!  Something is terribly wrong in Duggarland.

That is strange. Especially since JoKen are not particularly controversial within the Duggar family. Maybe they asked the Duggars not to post congratulations videos online?

[Minivanessa]

Why do we assume that the Caldwells have health insurance? Isn't he self employed? Not an expert but I don't think they're likely to have a great policy with cheap coverages for Kendra. More power to them if they did have coverage for her pregnancy though. 

[Loves2Dance]

15 hours ago, Rabbittron said:

For Christ's sake What the fuck a packnplay? Why didn't you just buy a fucking real crib?

I mean, I totally had a crib, but we did use it until the kiddos were around 5 ish months old. A pack n play fit better in our room and they come with the bassinet thingy so they're not all the way at the bottom and easier to get in and out. My pack n play was well, and I mean well, loved and used when the littles were little. 

[Loves2Dance]

RE. Insurance---if JoeD doesn't make a lot on a W2 form, they may make enough to qualify for assistance. In my state, if you don't make over the national average and you're pregnant, Medicaid instantly kicks in until you're 6 weeks pp. 

[Rabbittron]

A pack and play is fine cuz I had one too also I had a crib also the Duggars use the pack and play until the kid is ready for a bunk bed.

[galaxychaser]

On 6/9/2018 at 9:08 PM, Lunera said:

http://www.tlc.com/embed?page=303611

Video of Kendra and Joe preparing for the baby.

Aaww they are so young.

[saylubee]

3 hours ago, Jeeves said:

Why do we assume that the Caldwells have health insurance? Isn't he self employed? Not an expert but I don't think they're likely to have a great policy with cheap coverages for Kendra. More power to them if they did have coverage for her pregnancy though. 

He’s a Pastor in a Baptist church that’s backed by the national group.  It’s very likely he was given the opportunity to get health insurance from that, since the national religious organizations historically have tried to group the pastors together for the insurance.  It’s also possible that he pays good money to buy insurance from the marketplace.

[Sew Sumi]

I thought Caldwell was IFB. 

[Absolom]

Caldwell is IFB.  No national organization there that I've ever seen.

[Lady Edith]

3 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

RE. Insurance---if JoeD doesn't make a lot on a W2 form, they may make enough to qualify for assistance. In my state, if you don't make over the national average and you're pregnant, Medicaid instantly kicks in until you're 6 weeks pp. 

No assistance.  One of the things that folks of this religious persuasion do is eschew governmental assistance of any kind. That’s why so many of them live in abject poverty.  Jim Bob himself proclaimed that he has never and will never take assistance from the government. So if Baby G was born in the hospital with insurance, chances are it came from Daddy C.  Unless Joe splurged and got insurance for Kendra, seeing how his married siblings had to pay off hospital bills due to no coverage. 

But then again, wasn’t it hypothesized that Medicaid paid for Josie’s hospital bills while in NICU?  So maybe governmental help is not always poo poo’d if true...

Edited June 12, 2018 by Lady Edith
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[ChocolateAddict]

I find it so disconcerting that it was just over a year ago that we heard the infamous "looking forward to side hugs!" yet now these two barely educated, sheltered 20 something's are married with a baby. 

I really can't get my head around the idea that they weren't even allowed to hold hands until last year but now they are parents. Babies having babies.