Joy and Austin: This One Time At Family Camp

[sixlets]

These people have turned what should be a blessed (and in some cases, a miracle) event into a complete shit show.  For their constant proclamations of how special their blessings are, one would think they honor the parents with the respect they deserve.  Instead, they make it look like an elementary school food fight and show how clueless they really are.  If there was only a place where they could send their children to learn the three Rs and some decorum.  

[RedheadZombie]

On ‎1‎/‎3‎/‎2018 at 4:08 PM, Portia said:

I'm predicting Joy and Austin will do one of these gun-shooting gender reveals. Blech.

What gender is purple/pink/orange?

[Arwen Evenstar]

7 minutes ago, RedheadZombie said:

What gender is purple/pink/orange?

Either that, or someone clueless about the joys of a colorful Holi celebration.  Definitely skimping on the colors. 

All these rednecks don’t realize how much cool shit they’re borrowing from Indian culture.

Edited January 12, 2018 by Arwen Evenstar

[EAG46]

My saying is "No thank you I'd rather have mice wax my legs."   As for baby showers, I'm used to attending them after the kid is born, so it was more "Hooray the baby is here!" and everyone came.   All the hoo-hah and fol-de-rol should be about raising the baby to be healthy and happy and smart.  Not like any of these kids will have a shot at that.

[latetotheparty]

4 hours ago, XrystalPond said:

I'm of the Miranda on Sex and the City school of baby showers. Give me some fried chicken, no games, no oohs and ahhs. Leave your present and I'll open it later. 

I absolutely loathe shower games. That why, at my bridal shower, we played poker. 

[Churchhoney]

1 hour ago, RedheadZombie said:

What gender is purple/pink/orange?

Looks like a rainbow to me. 

[riverblue22]

1 hour ago, XrystalPond said:

Being of Russian descent, we don't bring in the baby stuff until the baby arrives. However I was raised in the South where showers are a big deal. When it came to me, I didn't go for it. My bridal shower was lunch with friends and cooking related gifts. Baby shower was non-existent  i just didn't feel comfy with the idea of everyone celebrating me having sex. 

Maybe baby showers are more fun for the attendees who have an excuse to buy baby stuff.  At work we always have baby showers for the royals and I guess we will be having a third (all of the loot goes to the family shelter).

[Portia]

1 hour ago, XrystalPond said:

i just didn't feel comfy with the idea of everyone celebrating me having sex. 

I don't mean to offend, but I'm a little bewildered by this statement. Did you honestly worry that people wouldn't be able to celebrate the new life of your child without them dwelling on the particulars of his or her conception? If so, do you feel awkward celebrating your birthday because it's a yearly reminder that your parents had sex? We all got here the same way, and there's no shame in it. It's just the way the world is and always has been. I definitely support your right to opt out of a shower if you didn't want one, but I suspect you would have been the only one dwelling on the sex if you'd had one. 

I run in pretty conservative Christian circles, and even when a baby has been conceived in so-called "shameful" circumstances, decent folks love to celebrate a sweet new life. Babies give people a little glimmer of hope for this rotten world. 

But baby shower games . . . yeah, they pretty much suck. 

Edited January 12, 2018 by Portia

[duggarshow]

2 hours ago, Portia said:

I don't mean to offend, but I'm a little bewildered by this statement. Did you honestly worry that people wouldn't be able to celebrate the new life of your child without them dwelling on the particulars of his or her conception? If so, do you feel awkward celebrating your birthday because it's a yearly reminder that your parents had sex? We all got here the same way, and there's no shame in it. It's just the way the world is and always has been. I definitely support your right to opt out of a shower if you didn't want one, but I suspect you would have been the only one dwelling on the sex if you'd had one. 

I run in pretty conservative Christian circles, and even when a baby has been conceived in so-called "shameful" circumstances, decent folks love to celebrate a sweet new life. Babies give people a little glimmer of hope for this rotten world. 

But baby shower games . . . yeah, they pretty much suck. 

 

I completely agree with the bolded. Also, like many others on this board, I'm not a fan of baby showers. I only had one with my youngest and it was a surprise shower. If I had been in on it, it never would've happened. I do appreciate everyone thinking of me and the new baby, though. But...is it just me, or does a baby shower for the last baby (when there isn't a huge gap between babies) seem...odd...?

At any rate, baby showers are different for this generation, for sure!

[Portia]

35 minutes ago, XrystalPond said:

I was just being sarcastic and bringing a bit of my Russian humor into the situation. My Russian family members aren't big on the whole, "Congratulations on the baby" thing. The more appropriate cultural response there is more one of sympathy that you have sleepless nights and hard work ahead. I tend to lean toward the pragmatic side of things because of that being drilled into me. It became a running joke among my Russian relatives and friends that my American family and friends are ready to congratulate and celebrate much more easily than we did at that time. 

I'm hardly anti-baby or child. I have always found the sentiment of congratulations to be not quite right for me when it comes to birthdays, babies, marriages, etc. To me, congratulations has always indicated a level of work or effort that should be rewarded with awe and appreciation. I'm not saying that I don't acknowledge the good in those things. I just do so with a tone that is more in line with my thought on the subject. I hope that you have a wonderful day for your birthday! How lovely that you and _____ are getting married. Welcome to the world to your baby! That being said, I'm probably more likely to congratulate a friend on her divorce, as I am happy that she/he is getting away from an unhealthy situation. 

It's one of those things that I find interesting with families like the Duggars. Far be it from me to declare one or the other wrong or right. It's just fascinating from a cultural standpoint to see that in the world of the Duggars, the conception of a baby is more important on the scale than an educational or career achievement. That could simply be editing, but I have my doubts on that. We all have our priorities in life. 

What a thoughtful and interesting response. As a teacher of English as a Second Language, I should have picked up on your earlier comment about your Russian heritage shaping your attitudes. Thank you for not taking any offense even though I clearly missed some signals along the way.  :-)

[Fuzzysox]

Does the TTH get rented out for all these parties? Who is funding them?

Aannnddd who is giving Joy her baby shower? I can't see MeChelle being the one. 

Edited January 13, 2018 by Fuzzysox

[PikaScrewChu]

On 1/12/2018 at 0:04 AM, Portia said:

I don't mean to offend, but I'm a little bewildered by this statement. Did you honestly worry that people wouldn't be able to celebrate the new life of your child without them dwelling on the particulars of his or her conception? If so, do you feel awkward celebrating your birthday because it's a yearly reminder that your parents had sex? We all got here the same way, and there's no shame in it. It's just the way the world is and always has been. I definitely support your right to opt out of a shower if you didn't want one, but I suspect you would have been the only one dwelling on the sex if you'd had one. 

I run in pretty conservative Christian circles, and even when a baby has been conceived in so-called "shameful" circumstances, decent folks love to celebrate a sweet new life. Babies give people a little glimmer of hope for this rotten world. 

But baby shower games . . . yeah, they pretty much suck. 

It's actually interesting because I've heard women talk about being uncomfortable with being pregnant since it was a definite sign they had sex. There has been a societal shift over the past decade with "accentuating the bump" and embracing it, but it wasn't all that long ago that a lot of women would try and disguise their pregnancies. There are only two pictures of my mother pregnant whatsoever and it wasn't uncommon for her generation to avoid the camera during pregnancy. One she was a bridesmaid in a wedding and couldn't get out of the group photo. She was holding something over her stomach to try and hide it. The other was taken by my father when she wasn't looking.

The idea of a baby was great news but sex was still taboo. There probably are some old biddies out there still judging.

I do love the response when unwanted strangers pat pregnant people's bellies. "You do realize you are patting my uterus". Somehow that turns a lot of people off.

The Duggar women do take the "accentuating the bump" to a brand new level though.

[Fuzzysox]

On 1/11/2018 at 7:34 AM, Churchhoney said:

Well, she's the star of the show. So maybe she's saving her announcement to be the big finish of this pregnancy round. 

After all, she'll be the first of the mentionable Duggarlings to get to three. 

I'm banking on all the announcements in one day......

JoylessAnna has a baby!

Si and Lauren are engaged!

Jessa is pregnant with #3!

Because: they do everything a little different *eyeroll*

[Lunera]

Joy's very first #besthubbyever post. He looks like such a douche. 

[PradaKitty]

Oh.... my.......

[DangerousMinds]

Sacrificial, Christ-like love? FFS that's disturbing.

[Marshmallow Mollie]

This could have been way more obnoxious than it is. It's somewhat original, at least.

[McManda]

3 minutes ago, DangerousMinds said:

Sacrificial, Christ-like love? FFS that's disturbing.

I'm pretty convinced that they don't actually know what they're saying. Instead they just string together words they've pulled from the Gothard/Bible grab bag. It's like the religious version of madlibs.

[Sew Sumi]

Oh puke. And I agree, he looks like a Grade A douche.

[Westiepeach]

2 minutes ago, McManda said:

I'm pretty convinced that they don't actually know what they're saying. Instead they just string together words they've pulled from the Gothard/Bible grab bag. It's like the religious version of madlibs.

Best. Post. Ever!

[Mollie]

On 1/14/2018 at 1:30 AM, PikaScrewChu said:

It's actually interesting because I've heard women talk about being uncomfortable with being pregnant since it was a definite sign they had sex. There has been a societal shift over the past decade with "accentuating the bump" and embracing it, but it wasn't all that long ago that a lot of women would try and disguise their pregnancies. There are only two pictures of my mother pregnant whatsoever and it wasn't uncommon for her generation to avoid the camera during pregnancy. One she was a bridesmaid in a wedding and couldn't get out of the group photo. She was holding something over her stomach to try and hide it. The other was taken by my father when she wasn't looking.

 

Pregnancy used to be referred to as 'being in the family way.'  It wasn't so long ago that you couldn't even say the word pregnant on television in America.  In 1952, Lucy Ricardo was 'specting her first child on the I Love Lucy show and the couple slept in separate twin beds on the show.  Throughout Lucy's pregnancy, the word pregnant was never used.  In the 1950s and early 1960s, pregnant teachers had to resign at three months because it was considered improper to expose school children to a pregnant woman – even though many grade school kids lived in homes with a pregnant mom. We've gone from that attitude to women posing nude while pregnant.

[Christina87]

On 1/12/2018 at 9:47 AM, XrystalPond said:

I was just being sarcastic and bringing a bit of my Russian humor into the situation. My Russian family members aren't big on the whole, "Congratulations on the baby" thing. The more appropriate cultural response there is more one of sympathy that you have sleepless nights and hard work ahead. I tend to lean toward the pragmatic side of things because of that being drilled into me. It became a running joke among my Russian relatives and friends that my American family and friends are ready to congratulate and celebrate much more easily than we did at that time. 

I'm hardly anti-baby or child. I have always found the sentiment of congratulations to be not quite right for me when it comes to birthdays, babies, marriages, etc. To me, congratulations has always indicated a level of work or effort that should be rewarded with awe and appreciation. I'm not saying that I don't acknowledge the good in those things. I just do so with a tone that is more in line with my thought on the subject. I hope that you have a wonderful day for your birthday! How lovely that you and _____ are getting married. Welcome to the world to your baby! That being said, I'm probably more likely to congratulate a friend on her divorce, as I am happy that she/he is getting away from an unhealthy situation. 

It's one of those things that I find interesting with families like the Duggars. Far be it from me to declare one or the other wrong or right. It's just fascinating from a cultural standpoint to see that in the world of the Duggars, the conception of a baby is more important on the scale than an educational or career achievement. That could simply be editing, but I have my doubts on that. We all have our priorities in life. 

I agree so much with this!!! I always find it weird to congratulate people on things like marriages, children, and birthdays. 

If someone has celebrated a milestone marriage (like 25 or 50 years), that is something to congratulate. If someone is getting out of an unhealthy marriage, that is also something to congratulate. 

I'd congratulate someone, for instance, when their child graduates high school. That is 18 yearsof hard work, not just having sex. 

I'd be happy to congratulate someone who made it to 90 or 100, because obviously they have been doing something right!!!

[Temperance]

1 hour ago, Christina87 said:

I agree so much with this!!! I always find it weird to congratulate people on things like marriages, children, and birthdays. 

If someone has celebrated a milestone marriage (like 25 or 50 years), that is something to congratulate. If someone is getting out of an unhealthy marriage, that is also something to congratulate. 

I'd congratulate someone, for instance, when their child graduates high school. That is 18 yearsof hard work, not just having sex. 

I'd be happy to congratulate someone who made it to 90 or 100, because obviously they have been doing something right!!!

I'd congratulate the kid and not the parents on the graduation. 

Also I lost quite a few people before 90 or 100 through no fault of their own.  There's a lot of luck involved in long life and I would be careful a lot of people will be easily offended on that.

I think a lot of times congratulations is used as synonym for happy. Congrats on your birthday versus Happy birthday! 

Edited January 15, 2018 by Temperance

[JoanArc]

1 hour ago, Sew Sumi said:

Oh puke. And I agree, he looks like a Grade A douche.

 It always takes me five seconds to process that he is not one of her brothers. 

[Heathen]

Austin is, what, 23? That is one wrinkly forehead for someone who hasn't even made it to his MID-twenties. If I didn't know better, I'd guess he was more like thirty. 

[Spencer Hastings]

2 hours ago, Lunera said:

Joy's very first #besthubbyever post. He looks like such a douche. 

1. Austin looks like one of the douchebags from my days as an educational assistant in a behavior support classroom.  He’s totally the kid who would turn on the charm for the lead teacher and his girlfriend’s parents but in reality is a borderline sociopath.

2. Joy, you are carrying his child.  You are sacrificing your little teenaged body for the heir to his Jesus throne.  He is giving and sacrificing because it’s his duty as your husband to do so. Or you know, as a decent human being.  I wonder what he is giving her?  Food and shelter? Attention?

Joy reminds me of my friends who praise their husbands for babysitting their own kid or changing a couple of diapers.  I once had a friend who posted a sappy Facebook post because her husband was thoughtful enough to pack a healthy breakfast for her—a vine of grapes and a granola bar.  I lost my everloving mind on that one. 

Edited January 16, 2018 by Spencer Hastings

[cdp73]

2 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Sacrificial, Christ-like love? FFS that's disturbing.

Is Joy smart enough to know the word "sacrificial" or even how to spell it?  I don't think she wrote the post.  And, he looks like a cross between a frat boy and a chimp.

[Trillium]

Mr Trillium once drove me at 2am to Chicago (3 hour drive) so I could make a flight to visit my parents in Florida, when my flight from our city  to Chicago got cancelled. After he dropped me off, he got caught in a blizzard and it took him 7 hours to drive back home. Thats is self sacrifice. 

 

I don’t know what this tool boy does that makes him hashtagbesthusbandever. Going to work or not being a dick are just being a hastaghuman things Joy. But her dad was King Duche Bob, so the bar probably is very low. 

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Sacrificial, Christ-like love? FFS that's disturbing.

Yeah, it’s disturbing since it’s parrot speak for them. The Apostle Paul wrote that a man should love his wife as Christ loved the Church. This, in turn, is supposed to mean service (treating her like a queen) and true, sacrificial love (going without something to ensure her health and comfort and their children’s.  It’s actually a tall order. In some parts of Fundieland, it’s all about wifely submission.

[Heathen]

I looked again. He's got acne and major wrinkles in the same place, plus helmet hair. His countenance is truly unfortunate. 

[mythoughtis]

 Just once I’d like to see this crew be able to post a photo caption without all the required Christian jargon and hashtags.   Not every single minute of the day requires a bible reference or buzzword.  They are like the man beating his chest saying ‘look at me, aren’t I a wonderful person’ In the parable. 

[lianau]

3 hours ago, Lunera said:

Joy's very first #besthubbyever post. He looks like such a douche. 

I still think he looks as if David Archuleta and Voldemort had baby .

[Arwen Evenstar]

4 minutes ago, lianau said:

I still think he looks as if David Archuleta and Voldemort had baby .

Much more Voldemorty.

[cmr2014]

4 hours ago, Lunera said:

Joy's very first #besthubbyever post. He looks like such a douche. 

This is very much so Gothard marriage counseling stuff -- the woman (or in this case, girl) is supposed to loudly proclaim all of the good attributes of her man.

I know that it's popular among the young fundie women to post stuff about #besthubbieever, so I hope that's all it is and not marital issues starting already. Because, really, what could go wrong when you marry someone you've never spoken to privately and get knocked up after one week?

[Portia]

I wonder if Austin has used an acne medication that over-dried his skin. Accutane made my son's skin desert-dry, so for a while he had that combination of acne and forehead lines. His skin cleared up and his acne scars faded, but the forehead lines remained, though they were less prominent after he went off the medicine. 

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, Trillium said:

But her dad was King Duche Bob, so the bar probably is very low. 

Exactly. Every time one of the Duggarling women says something like this, first I think, Oh, good grief. And then I remember who their father is. .... The bar is unbelievably low, and I think that, while part of their blathering about their wonderful husbands is made-for-Teevee Gothardspeak, some of it is genuine and they really are amazed, shocked, and touched when some guy brings them a carton of yogurt..... I mean, I don't think their brothers ever bring them cartons of yogurt either. They're not used to males doing anything at all in the caregiving realm. And I mean not anything. 

[awaken]

5 hours ago, Lunera said:

Joy's very first #besthubbyever post. He looks like such a douche. 

Ew.  Yes. The nostrils, and I maintain, simian-like features. Not my cup of tea but glad she’s happy!  ?

5 hours ago, Mollie said:

Pregnancy used to be referred to as 'being in the family way.'  It wasn't so long ago that you couldn't even say the word pregnant on television in America.  In 1952, Lucy Ricardo was 'specting her first child on the I Love Lucy show and the couple slept in separate twin beds on the show.  Throughout Lucy's pregnancy, the word pregnant was never used.  In the 1950s and early 1960s, pregnant teachers had to resign at three months because it was considered improper to expose school children to a pregnant woman – even though many grade school kids lived in homes with a pregnant mom. We've gone from that attitude to women posing nude while pregnant.

I always assumed their referring to it as “expecteeng “ has its roots in these ideas. So far it’s only been Jill the midwife who blatantly says “pregnit”. 

[awaken]

And what has he done that’s so sacrificial?  Less sex now that she’s big-pregnant, and more foot rubs?  

Edited January 16, 2018 by awaken

[Lunera]

JDs very sad bday party. Is this the best picture you could get of the "party"? Why are JD and and Austin holding a bottle of noromycin, cattle antibiotics?!

I posted this here because it looks like Austin did manage to finish the house before Joy popped. 

[Rabbittron]

2 hours ago, lianau said:

I still think he looks as if David Archuleta and Voldemort had baby .

He’s wearing a nice shade of lipstick ?

[Heathen]

31 minutes ago, Lunera said:

JDs very sad bday party. Is this the best picture you could get of the "party"? Why are JD and and Austin holding a bottle of noromycin, cattle antibiotics?!

I posted this here because it looks like Austin did manage to finish the house before Joy popped. 

That is one sad-looking little house. Get some cheap artwork and cover the fuse box, at least. And spread out the curtains so they don't look so half-assed over the windows. 

Check out the look on Derelict's face. He's trying so hard to see what Joe is doing on his phone. 

[momma2seven]

Who is random not-Izzy boy child? 

[Arwen Evenstar]

3 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

The bar is unbelievably low, and I think that, while part of their blathering about their wonderful husbands is made-for-Teevee Gothardspeak, some of it is genuine and they really are amazed, shocked, and touched when some guy brings them a carton of yogurt..... I mean, I don't think their brothers ever bring them cartons of yogurt either. They're not used to males doing anything at all in the caregiving realm. And I mean not anything. 

Yeah, it’s really low.  Remember, Jim Boob, you’re supposed to love your wife as Christ loved His bride (the church), not letting your wife suffer labor pains while you wait for her or Jana to make you eggs and bacon before she gets to leave for the hospital.

[RedheadZombie]

I think Austin looks perfectly fine.  He's not attempting to brand his family, or present himself as a metrosexual fashion plate like Jeremy.  He looks like a guy who works a lot outside, and whose fair skin has lacked sunscreen.  

[GeeGolly]

6 hours ago, momma2seven said:

Who is random not-Izzy boy child? 

Kendra's brother?

Those curtains are so dark and dreary. It looks like they're usually pulled back and they close them for evening privacy. Not that I like Erin Bates' style but Joy could use her help or by next year we're going to see a fish and deer head on the walls.

[charmed1]

Joy’s post sounds like a sappy social media apology for something that occurred privately. A lovers spat perhaps. I have a few friends who do this. You’re calling me to say he just stormed off in a huff, but you’re showing Facebook a photo of the flowers he just so lovingly bought you. Gag.

[MargeGunderson]

14 hours ago, DangerousMinds said:

Sacrificial, Christ-like love? FFS that's disturbing.

Unless Austin built a cross, hung himself upon it, died for the redemption of humankind, and was resurrected, Joy needs to dial it back just a little. Jesus would not approve of the hyperbole. 

[IntoTheMystic]

Austin's forehead looks just like our 14 year old boy foster child at the moment. The kid LIVES in a baseball hat. It causes acne and lines on his forehead where the hat sits. Poor guy won't take it off. Ever. The only time we can get him to remove it is at the dinner table or if we eat at a restaurant. He has fallen asleep in it more than once. It was the last thing his mother gave him before she died of cancer.

If that is the house that Austin and Joy bought and refinished ... it's awful. Why is the fusebox like that? And why are the windows so uneven? It doesn't advertise well for him as a house-flipper if his own house looks like an omelet that you try to flip and half of it lands outside the pan.

[Annb67]

So that picture of Austin makes me want to kick him in the throat. And Joy wth has Austin done that is so remarkable, more remarkable than any other partner alive? Most women throw out a "thanks so much for your patience, I'm a fat blob, I promise at some point we will have sex again." 

[Fuzzysox]

Anyone else want to slap the "surprised" look on Jill's face off?

Joy's house looks joyless.