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The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

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Temperance

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6 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

And here I am thinking that she didn't refer to Jeremy as her best friend like some of these other couples seem to do...

But otherwise that's true. Jinger hasn't really appeared to make her own independent friends. I'm not entirely sure it's a Duggar thing though. Jill, Joy, and Jana appear to have non-relatives as friends. 

Jill had all Duggars in her wedding party, although Jessa, Jinger, and Joy had non-Duggars in the wedding. 

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My push presents after having my kids were my kids. 

Spencer Hastings
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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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That's okay. He's forgotten it a few times himself. 

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auntieminem

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Not sure if this friend discussion should be moved elsewhere but Michelle claims to have the long time friend she worked out with her and the woman did some wedding planning for a couple of Duggarlings weddings.  I remember one show that talked about Joy and Sierra's friendship since she was older than Joy.  Joy was helping Sierra with some of her catering or whatever it was. I do recall several times they played up Jessa and Jinger as best friends. Otherwise don't recall the hearing much about friends except as it applied to siblings. 

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52 minutes ago, auntieminem said:

Not sure if this friend discussion should be moved elsewhere but Michelle claims to have the long time friend she worked out with her and the woman did some wedding planning for a couple of Duggarlings weddings.  I remember one show that talked about Joy and Sierra's friendship since she was older than Joy.  Joy was helping Sierra with some of her catering or whatever it was. I do recall several times they played up Jessa and Jinger as best friends. Otherwise don't recall the hearing much about friends except as it applied to siblings. 

Michelle's friend was Cindy. They went back to high school, if not even earlier. She took over from Sierra and did Jinger and Joy's weddings. 

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madpsych78

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1 hour ago, Temperance said:

Jill had all Duggars in her wedding party, although Jessa, Jinger, and Joy had non-Duggars in the wedding. 

I felt like Jinger's non-Duggar bridesmaids were the most random. Well, there was Jennifer Hartono and Jeremy's sister, but there were then one or two other bridesmaids who I could not figure out the connection. At least many of Jessa's bridesmaids were Ben's sisters, Jennifer Hartono as well, and that one Anna Hackel (?) person. Joy had Austin's sister, Carlin, Kendra, and I think a Query girl?

I think if Derick had sisters, or if Dan had already been married to Deena when Jill and Derick got married, then Jill would have included them in the party.

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Churchhoney

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14 hours ago, auntieminem said:

Not sure if this friend discussion should be moved elsewhere but Michelle claims to have the long time friend she worked out with her and the woman did some wedding planning for a couple of Duggarlings weddings.  I remember one show that talked about Joy and Sierra's friendship since she was older than Joy.  Joy was helping Sierra with some of her catering or whatever it was. I do recall several times they played up Jessa and Jinger as best friends. Otherwise don't recall the hearing much about friends except as it applied to siblings. 

Sierra's been posed as Jessa's great friend and then as Joy's great friend. But Joy was just working with her. And while Sierra and Jessa seemed to hang out some for a while, a year or so ago they had one of their photos-of-our-lunch-with-sweet-friends things but Sierra had posted in connection with the event that prior to that she and Jessa hadn't spoken in about a year....

So.....not a whole lot of friendship going on, seems to me. 

 

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ginger90

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2 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

I felt like Jinger's non-Duggar bridesmaids were the most random. Well, there was Jennifer Hartono and Jeremy's sister, but there were then one or two other bridesmaids who I could not figure out the connection. 

Kenzie Peters, and Rebekah Kelly were bridesmaids, they were  listed as friends of the bride.

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This is getting quite ridiculous with Felicity and the 'hiding of her face' in these stupid photos. Just quit it already. Jinger stated that she doesn't want to be in the public eye....so get out of the public eye already. It's easy; all you have to do is stop taking pictures and posting them. These Vuolos are frauds.

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GeeGolly

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Jeremy is getting good at stretching out his posts and making it look like they're on a perpetual vacation. Felicity has had on that same dress in all his posts for the last week and Jing and Jer wore the same outfits at the ballgame they went to a week ago.  So it seems the last 7 days or so of IG stories and posts reflect one day.

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11 hours ago, Cinnabon said:

Ojai is $$$$$$$$

Money worries are for peasants.  Jeremy is going to be a rich and famous influencer shoe model food blogger podcaster author candle designer pastor someday, so he need not worry his pretty little head about silly things like money.

3 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Jeremy is getting good at stretching out his posts and making it look like they're on a perpetual vacation. Felicity has had on that same dress in all his posts for the last week and Jing and Jer wore the same outfits at the ballgame they went to a week ago.  So it seems the last 7 days or so of IG stories and posts reflect one day.

So many thoughts.........

To what end is he trying to make his homies think that they are on perpetual vacation?  Didn't he just post last week that he was taking summer classes?  So what's his stupid angle here?  Is he a serious student or not (rhetorical question, of course).  He makes zero sense, and his IG stories are always such a mish-mash of random food, hide the babies, and deep thoughts.  He's in the middle of a 12-lane highway and he needs to pick a freaking lane.

Also, how much time does this moron waste taking pictures of his daughters and then deleting the ones that show an eye, or a nose, etc.  Babies and toddlers don't typically stand still when getting their pictures taken, so I'm positive he wastes considerable time looking for the money shot.  And I'm sure he thinks he's being oh-so-clever with those photos when what he's really doing is teasing his followers with sly glimpses.  I have said it before - I think he's playing a really dangerous game by doing this and he'd be a far better human if he just kept them off SM altogether.  Teasing your babies for clicks is like JillRod levels of gross.

 

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9 hours ago, floridamom said:

This is getting quite ridiculous with Felicity and the 'hiding of her face' in these stupid photos. Just quit it already. Jinger stated that she doesn't want to be in the public eye....so get out of the public eye already. It's easy; all you have to do is stop taking pictures and posting them. These Vuolos are frauds.

The best comment I read with regards to this was on Reddit. Someone said Jinger's gone from performative modesty to performative privacy. (Forgive me if that was one of you and I didn't give proper credit). I thought that absolutely nailed it. Jinger really isn't concerned about her child's privacy if she constantly posts virtue-signaling teaser photos. It's all just part of their game. 

With regards to Ojai, it reminds me of magazine articles that tell women where to meet rich men. One of the tips is always hang out in places where the money crowd goes. Jeremy's the equivalent of a golddigger sitting in the lobby of the Ritz. 

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charmed1

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On 7/23/2021 at 7:33 AM, ginger90 said:

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I do wonder how posts like these make the other older Duggar daughters feel. Of course sisters can be best friends and sisters can be close, but with multiple stair-step sisters, to single one out and publicly declare her as your “bestie” just seems...I don’t know...kind of mean? 

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GeeGolly

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16 minutes ago, charmed1 said:

I do wonder how posts like these make the other older Duggar daughters feel. Of course sisters can be best friends and sisters can be close, but with multiple stair-step sisters, to single one out and publicly declare her as your “bestie” just seems...I don’t know...kind of mean? 

I don't think any of them are true besties, but Michelle started this narrative a while back, and Jessa and Jinger seem to be keeping it going.

If you look at the Bates girls, there's a lot of different dynamics going on. The one consistent there is, it appears Michaela and Erin are noone's bestie - the two oldest girls, like Jana and Jill. Noone seems to be besties with Tori either. The real friendships with the Bates girls seem to be between Katey, Josie, Alyssa, Carlin and SIL Whitney.

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Churchhoney

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1 hour ago, charmed1 said:

I do wonder how posts like these make the other older Duggar daughters feel. Of course sisters can be best friends and sisters can be close, but with multiple stair-step sisters, to single one out and publicly declare her as your “bestie” just seems...I don’t know...kind of mean? 

I don't think any of them are truly close or good friends...or ever have been. They were raised to be "accountability partners" only -- i.e., snitches. That and j'slaves, in the case of the girls.

And honesty and openness are utterly denied any place in that household. So good relationships were unlikely to develop among the kids, seems to me. They had no freedom. And no role models for friendship 

So since Jessa had Jingle with her in some sort of alliance -- maybe Jingle picking up the slack for things Jessa needed done or satisfying Jessa's itch to have a follower or something like that? -- they probably do qualify as "best friends" as far as that family has such a thing. And Jana, Jill and Joy likely had no illusions ever about being members of the Jessa/Jinge twinship. So I doubt they care about it now. 

I'm remembering the couple of (?) meetings between Jinge and Jana over the past few years and their pretending that they were friendly. And didn't it come across as completely awkward and done entirely for cameras? 

Despite living in a kind of hive situation, this family isn't close, period. And I think it was designed that way. They perform closeness, but that's because that's required according to their cult/faith. God is love, after all. But that's a long way from actually feeling it or even wanting it, I expect.

Gothard strongly implies this procedure: Divide your kids and conquer. Let them unite and you the parent may be screwed. Seriously. 

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charmed1

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2 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

I'm remembering the couple of (?) meetings between Jinge and Jana over the past few years and their pretending that they were friendly. And didn't it come across as completely awkward and done entirely for cameras? 

Now that I think about it, yes it definitely did. I recall a time when Michelle and JB were trying to market the girls as some type of fundie influencers. There were the hair tutorials and that terrible book. I seem to remember them sitting in a circle somewhere while other fundie girls sat around them asking questions about dating or something. That may have been a book promotion event. But the girls always seem like pod people attempting to mimic real human emotions and interactions. Even their most casual interactions seem performative. I know that’s because they’ve been forced to stifle their emotions and because they’ve grown up in front of cameras for most of their lives, so when they actually do show genuine emotion, it seems to be a guttural, anguished outpouring of suppressed grief. I’m thinking of Jinger during Jessa’s wedding, Jana recalling the jewelry box incident, and Jana seeing JD(?) for the first time after he completed Alert. There was another episode when Jinger dropped the little girls off at Jill’s house I think and it seemed like two strangers meeting.

I think of all the girls, Jingle probably would be the most adept at making friends outside of the cult. She herself said that she was more outgoing than the “bestie” during Ben’s proposal episode. It’s nice that she was able to move to a big city like she dreamed of. It’s just a shame that she had to get married to Jermy to do it. I hope at least one of the little girls is currently plotting their escape.

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laurakaye

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4 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Gothard strongly implies this procedure: Divide your kids and conquer. Let them unite and you the parent may be screwed. Seriously. 

Sick.

Given the insulated nature of this family, training the kids to NOT become close to each other is disgusting.  Eventually they will only have each other - JB and Meech won't be around forever.  Then what?  The Hunger Games - Fundie Edition?  

Not that there's going to be any big jackpot in JB's will or anything, but I can't fathom the idea of having a huge bunch of semi-literate spawn dorking around all over the place, unable to find real or meaningful work because they've all had any individuality driven from them from babyhood.  How will they know what they want to do if JimBlob isn't telling them what they want to do?

 

 

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Tikichick

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36 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

Sick.

Given the insulated nature of this family, training the kids to NOT become close to each other is disgusting.  Eventually they will only have each other - JB and Meech won't be around forever.  Then what?  The Hunger Games - Fundie Edition?  

Not that there's going to be any big jackpot in JB's will or anything, but I can't fathom the idea of having a huge bunch of semi-literate spawn dorking around all over the place, unable to find real or meaningful work because they've all had any individuality driven from them from babyhood.  How will they know what they want to do if JimBlob isn't telling them what they want to do?

 

 

But then what would onlookers say -- perhaps that JB was the great brains and talent that made the family successful and they can't manage without him?   Seems entirely onbrand to me.

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drafan

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1 hour ago, ozziemom said:

Sometimes one of the girls would refer to Meeechelle as her best friend. And I believe Michael Bates had Kelly Jo as her matron of honor at her wedding.

All the girls were all forced to say that Hairball was their best friend at one time or another.

Michael Bates and Kelly Jo are basically the same (frumpy) person. Ironic that Michael is the one without a million kids.

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On 7/27/2021 at 5:50 AM, floridamom said:

This is getting quite ridiculous with Felicity and the 'hiding of her face' in these stupid photos.

Maybe Felicity is the one hiding her face while she thinks,"Please don't let my face show.  I don't want people to know I'm the offspring of these two loons."

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I watched Jeremy's latest video on IG about how there are 4,200 religions but his is the only one that counts (from his sure to be a hit TikTok account).  While I could only stand his pontificating for a few seconds, I did spend a few enjoyable minutes in the comment section where he is getting skewered.  I'm stunned those posts are still there, but I'm sure in between Jere going out for a grass-fed omelette breakfast with his homies, a round of golf and a stop at the organic coffee shop, he'll find plenty of time to go on a delete/blocking spree.

While I'm at it, his last IG story was a confounding mishmash of which pens and rulers are best for studying, a brief portion of his TikTok religion word salad diatribe, and a picture of Jinger playing Uno.  So based on that I would guess that Jeremy Vuolo is a card-playing religious jerk who likes to shop at Office Max for school supplies.

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Suzn

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2 hours ago, laurakaye said:

While I'm at it, his last IG story was a confounding mishmash of which pens and rulers are best for studying, a brief portion of his TikTok religion word salad diatribe, and a picture of Jinger playing Uno.  So based on that I would guess that Jeremy Vuolo is a card-playing religious jerk who likes to shop at Office Max for school supplies.

I believe you have summed him up perfectly.  Apparently, he has no self-awareness, only self-concern.

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18 hours ago, lookeyloo said:

Ugh.  One of my high school classmates I am in contact with says her grown daughter is her "best friend".  I just don't get it.  As much as I loved Sweet Son, he was not my best friend.  Nor is his brother, nor is Mr lookeyloo.  My BFF knows who she is.  The Duggars "do things differently".

I consider my mother my best friend. She is not my "peer" but she is the best friend I will ever have in this life I am sure. I also have a "peer best friend", and the relationship is different, but I trust my Mom above all others living, dead, or yet to be born. But when I was growning up, I knew "she wasn't one of my little friends!"😂

I dont get this feeling from Jinger and Michelle, or Jinger and any of her sisters. I think Jinger and Jessa hung out the most together, due to the chores they had and their birth order. I think Jessa and Jinger were each other's primary companions (before marriage) but not best friends. I do think the English language is lacking in words to describe affection and friendship, we only have one word for "love" and one word for "friend" when those things mean things to different people. 

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