The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[Luvmy300zx]

What is wrong with these people? They talk as if they are thinking about sex 24/7 and must have an accountability partner at all times to keep them from giving in. This does not make the "unsaved" want what they have. It makes them laugh at them. The way they focus on sex all the time is not normal.

[Twopper]

4 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

On an app called Cameo, "celebrities" (of all ilks) offer to record and send you (or someone you choose) a message according to specs you provide, for a set price. People ask for a birthday message or advice or jokes or whatever. And the "celeb" can say yes or no to any request. Jinge started doing it a few weeks ago. Her fee is $75 per message, and they seem to be maybe 30 seconds long or so. 

A couple months ago Jer and Jingle were guests on a podcast produced by Jeremy and Audrey Roloff. It's called "Behind the Scenes." Don't know behind the scenes of what. They -- mostly Jer --  talked to the Roloffs for an hour or so about their techniques for having a super-Christian marriage and being parents while living their busy lives in this corrupt modern world, basically. 

I knew about Jinger's messages, but is Jeremy sending out the same type message or is he giving out Bible quotes?  is he that much of a z-list celeb that anyone would care?

The younger Roloffs haven't been married all that long.  I am not sure they are the  best couple for marital advice, but they are young so maybe they have better advice on married life with social media than us older couples. 

I just think this is weird--both the podcast and selling messages by someone who wants to be a preacher. 

[Churchhoney]

5 minutes ago, Twopper said:

I knew about Jinger's messages, but is Jeremy sending out the same type message or is he giving out Bible quotes?  is he that much of a z-list celeb that anyone would care?

As I understand it, if somebody wants a message from him (or anybody on that site), you write a description of what you'd like (I think they give you a character-limited box in which to explain it .... You could even write the exact script you want them to say.). And then the "celeb" has about a week to either decide to do it and to forward the message to you, or to decline to deliver your message. 

So if somebody asks him to read them Bible passages or if their request leaves that open -- LIke, Wish me a happy birthday! -- then he'll give them Bible quotes. But if I give him a passage of the Communist Manifesto to read to me, he can either read me the Marx or refuse to take the job. 

So I expect that there'll be lots of Bible quotes in any birthday messages he delivers. ... .And some orders he'll decline....😈

I think it's weird, too. I doubt we're the only ones, either! I also think that he may apply for some pastor jobs a couple years from now and learn that some church hiring committees also think it's weird!

Edited July 27, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Oldernowiser]

As I refuse in principle to give RFP clicks, can someone explain WTF the obese guy has to do with condemning alcohol?

There are plenty of fat teetotalers, so I am confused...

[Zella]

5 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

As I refuse in principle to give RFP clicks, can someone explain WTF the obese guy has to do with condemning alcohol?

There are plenty of fat teetotalers, so I am confused...

I wondered the same thing. I know Babylon Bee is like the Christian version of The Onion, so I suppose it was supposed to be funny. But the reasons why mystify me. 

[Ohiopirate02]

5 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

As I refuse in principle to give RFP clicks, can someone explain WTF the obese guy has to do with condemning alcohol?

There are plenty of fat teetotalers, so I am confused...

It's a Christian satire website.  It reads to me like the obese preacher is more focused on the speck (drinking) in his neighbors eye than the plank (gluttony) in his.  It's a pretty shitty joke bordering on fatphobia with the premise that all obese people are gluttons instead of other health issues or trauma.

On the subject of Henry Winkler, I have heard so many stories about his kindness and good heart that is is the top tier of men for me with Fred Rogers and Bob Ross.

[JoanArc]

8 hours ago, OpieTaylor said:

"I have not had access to the internet on a cell phone for years, probably 5 or 6 years. The temptation of the Internet in your hand is unlike any generation that we’ve lived in before. And so as a man who’s seeking to never place before my eyes anything that is worthless (Psalm 101, verse 3), I want to have purity in my thoughts and my eyes and I personally don’t want to have the temptation in my palm, 24/7.

Oh yeah, there's dick pics of Jer out there somewhere.

[DCCme]

5 hours ago, BitterApple said:

Wouldn't you just love for Jinger to flip the script? "Oh hey, baaaaabe. I saw Chris Hemsworth in the parking lot at Whole Foods and I'm really struggling with impure thoughts. I need you to pray for me. 'Kay, thanks...". Somehow I don't think JereMe's ego would take it too well.

On a serious note, I feel bad for Jinger. I've been with Mr. BitterApple forever, so it wouldn't phase me, but I'd be pretty devastated if I were a newlywed and my husband was coming to me on the regular complaining about temptation. I guess Jinger's naive enough to see this as a good thing, but I wouldn't be surprised if Jeremy gets caught with his pants down at some point in the future.

And Jing should feel free to post it via her phone using his social media accounts when it does...

[Twopper]

34 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

It's a Christian satire website.  It reads to me like the obese preacher is more focused on the speck (drinking) in his neighbors eye than the plank (gluttony) in his.  It's a pretty shitty joke bordering on fatphobia with the premise that all obese people are gluttons instead of other health issues or trauma.

that's what I thought.  Some of the BabylonBee's stuff is funny, but this doesn't work for me.  I guess it is meant as commentary, not humor.  But as you say, not all obesity is gluttony.  Also not all gluttons are obese.   I  just binged on nearly a pint of that new  Halo ice cream stuff so I admit my sin here on this forum. 

[DCCme]

3 minutes ago, Twopper said:

that's what I thought.  Some of the BabylonBee's stuff is funny, but this doesn't work for me.  I guess it is meant as commentary, not humor.  But as you say, not all obesity is gluttony.  Also not all gluttons are obese.   I  just binged on nearly a pint of that new  Halo ice cream stuff so I admit my sin here on this forum. 

And I confess my envy that you binged on nearly a pint of the new Halo ice cream stuff.  I don’t even know what it is and my envy is deep. Whew, confession is good for the soul.

[Ohiopirate02]

10 minutes ago, Twopper said:

that's what I thought.  Some of the BabylonBee's stuff is funny, but this doesn't work for me.  I guess it is meant as commentary, not humor.  But as you say, not all obesity is gluttony.  Also not all gluttons are obese.   I  just binged on nearly a pint of that new  Halo ice cream stuff so I admit my sin here on this forum. 

Halo ice cream is designed for you to eat the whole pint in one sitting.   Not gluttony IMHO.

[McManda]

Don't stone me, but I actually think it's healthy to keep open communication with your SO, so I can't fault Jeremy for that. I'd want to try and help mine work through any frustrations in any part of his life or or relationship and I'd hope he'd want to do the same for me.

I think the assumption that Jeremy just confesses to Jinger about other women he'd like to bang is just that: an assumption. I didn't listen to the podcast (because Jeremy and Audrey Roloff actually make me cringe), but I have to think it's more like @GeeGolly thinks, that it's about any issues he might have (financially, spiritually, professionally, personally, whatever), so that they can figure it out. I think that's respectable and actually relatively good advice, otherwise your marriage is destined to decline and potentially fail. (You don't want to become resentful or spiteful like Jill and Derick!)

I also kiiind of agree with Jeremy's assertions that not having social media would be freeing. I know I'm something akin to addicted and wish I didn't have the compulsion to mindlessly scroll through Facebook, Instagram, or Reddit just because I was bored and didn't know what else to do. The only thing I disagree about is that he seems to spend enough time on social media that his actions don't follow his words. At least I own my media addiction.

[Zella]

21 minutes ago, McManda said:

Don't stone me, but I actually think it's healthy to keep open communication with your SO, so I can't fault Jeremy for that. I'd want to try and help mine work through any frustrations in any part of his life or or relationship and I'd hope he'd want to do the same for me.

I think the assumption that Jeremy just confesses to Jinger about other women he'd like to bang is just that: an assumption. I didn't listen to the podcast (because Jeremy and Audrey Roloff actually make me cringe), but I have to think it's more like @GeeGolly thinks, that it's about any issues he might have (financially, spiritually, professionally, personally, whatever), so that they can figure it out. I think that's respectable and actually relatively good advice, otherwise your marriage is destined to decline and potentially fail. (You don't want to become resentful or spiteful like Jill and Derick!)

I also kiiind of agree with Jeremy's assertions that not having social media would be freeing. I know I'm something akin to addicted and wish I didn't have the compulsion to mindlessly scroll through Facebook, Instagram, or Reddit just because I was bored and didn't know what else to do. The only thing I disagree about is that he seems to spend enough time on social media that his actions don't follow his words. At least I own my media addiction.

It's true it is an assumption, but the fact he was surprised Jinger was willing to listen to it made me think it is not just garden-variety sin he's telling her about. 

[Temperance]

3 minutes ago, Zella said:

It's true it is an assumption, but the fact he was surprised Jinger was willing to listen to it made me think it is not just garden-variety sin he's telling her about. 

I don't know... religious people tend to blow any little sin/incident out of proportion. Exhibit A: Michelle mowing the lawn in her bikini. 

[lascuba]

5 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Totally agree. Including for Fundies. .... There's a reason the U.S. states with the highest population of conservative evangelicals (or Mormons) have repeatedly topped the "per capita porn usage" stats. 

I'm also fairly certain that, given what Jer's said he believes about masturbation, not only Jingle but virtually every married woman on the planet has been cheated on by her husband -- years before they even met! .....And a good majority of the married men have been similarly cheated on, I would surmise. 

I think we have enough evidence to put Jer in the same category I put JB in -- obsessed with sex, scared of sex, scared of the power of sex and super-guilty about sex....and therefore prone to make tons of ridiculous rules about sex that are laughable but sure do give them the excuse they need to think -- and talk --  about it. 

The difference, I think, is that JB actually lives by those rules, mostly because of deep conviction but also a smidge of--let's be real, here--lack of opportunity because he has no game. That conviction of his is probably partly due to that lifelong lack of opportunity. 

Jeremy, though? He's not going to stay "pure" forever. If he even is now, because I highly doubt that he doesn't masturbate. No one who preaches against it as much as he does abstains from masturbation. 

[Albanyguy]

49 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

Halo ice cream is designed for you to eat the whole pint in one sitting. 

Wait, Ben & Jerry's isn't?

[Zella]

5 minutes ago, Temperance said:

I don't know... religious people tend to blow any little sin/incident out of proportion. Exhibit A: Michelle mowing the lawn in her bikini. 

Right, but they still frame that as sexual, so I suspect even if it is something literally nobody else would care about, it still has some sexual component, thus his surprise at Jinger's willingness to talk to him about it.

Edited July 27, 2019 by Zella

[mynextmistake]

10 hours ago, OpieTaylor said:

I just went back to the Roloff's podcast (you should be able to find it here: https://www.listennotes.com/podcasts/behind-the-scenes-jeremy-audrey-roloff-ZF8iIe-thV6/ and then enter Vuolo in the search bar)

Here are some pretty much exact quotes on the subject of communication in their marriage, which is where JerME talks about confessing temptation:

Jinger: ..."Just keeping up: How are you doing? What are you struggling with? We just constantly ask each other those hard questions, just keeping up and pointing toward the ultimate goal, which is to walk in holiness and purity and in unity with one another in marriage – making sure there’s nothing between us and the Lord, nothing between us and each other."

Jeremy: "And that’s a huge point Jinger brings up… the issue of purity and communication. I very early on, from the moment we were married, I wanted Jinger to be in with me, on the battlefield for purity, and so it’s a difficult conversation at times to have, but to be able to say, hey, I’m getting hit with some temptation, I’m just struggling this morning with this or that. Can you pray for me? And it’s amazing to bring her in on that.

Jeremy continues a moment later ..."We naturally think, if I share with her that I’m struggling with this thought or that thought, that it’s going to hurt her. Well, actually the opposite is true, it actually builds her trust. Because she begins to think, oh if he’s struggling, he’s going to let me know, and I can fight with him."

If my husband were to tell me every time he found another woman hotter than me, you’d better believe i’d be fighting with him.

[mythoughtis]

4 minutes ago, mynextmistake said:

If my husband were to tell me every time he found another woman hotter than me, you’d better believe i’d be fighting with him.

Agreed.  I think we also all understand the ‘married, not dead’ theory too.  Look quickly, don’t let me see you, and we are good.     

[Zella]

Rereading the text again convinces me even more it is about temptation regarding other women since he specifically talking about in reference to "purity."

Also his note that he assumes it will hurt her. I don't think sharing more generic sins would have that effect, and I'm sure he knows that too.

Ditto for his comment about building trust. I don't think that would be applicable for sins that didn't involve him thinking of other women/lusting after them.

I think it is extremely disingenuous of him to then say she can fight with him. What a bunch of utter bullshit. If he has "committed adultery in his heart," as to quote Jimmy Carter, that's on him, not her, to rein that in.

Take a cue from Matthew 5:29 and pluck out your own sinful fucking eye, Jeremy, instead of putting it off on your poor wife! 

Edited July 27, 2019 by Zella

[Oldernowiser]

I have read that three times...and it’s still all a total load.

We humans sure know how to make life unnecessarily complicated, don’t we...

[Spencer Hastings]

“We naturally think, if I share with her that I’m struggling with this thought or that thought, that it’s going to hurt her. Well, actually the opposite is true, it actually builds her trust. ”

This is the part that gets me the most.  Instead of showing vulnerability, a natural human reaction, she has to pretend to be this Godly crutch who will build strength and trust through his weakness.  Maybe she believes it too, but my soul would be crushed. 

[GeeGolly]

I can't imagine any real sexual temptations that Jeremy is struggling with at this time in his life. It's not like he works a 9 - 5 and is flirting daily with a co-worker. And his crowd seems to be primarily men and Jinger is often with him.

I'm guessing it's closer to watching beach volley ball and confessing he thinks they're sexy. However, for some women that confession might be devastating and compel them to work out and obsess over their own bodies. For most women I'm thinking they'd agree or disagree about the sexiness of the athletes' bodies and move on.

Edited July 27, 2019 by GeeGolly

[kokapetl]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I can't imagine any real sexual temptations that Jeremy is struggling with at this time in his life. It's not like he works a 9 - 5 and is flirting daily with a co-worker. And his crowd seems to be primarily men and Jinger is often with him.

I'm guessing it's closer to watching beach volley ball and confessing he thinks they're sexy. However, for some women that confession might be devastating and compel them to work out and obsess over their own bodies. For most women I'm thinking they'd agree or disagree about the sexiness of the athletes' bodies and move on.

Exactly. Him telling Jinger about the hot women he sees does nothing helpful for her. Anyone with half a brain already knows this stuff happens, him bringing it up will just lead to Jinger worrying about it all the time. Total honesty and confessing everything is highly overrated. 

[Churchhoney]

12 hours ago, Temperance said:

I don't know... religious people tend to blow any little sin/incident out of proportion. Exhibit A: Michelle mowing the lawn in her bikini. 

Yeah, except that I see her blowing that up mainly as humble-bragging -- even if she wouldn't admit that (or realize it). I don't see the Duggars as being particularly honest about their actual failings -- like the mess they created with Josh.....So I don't buy the idea that she's actually torn up with guilt over bikini-wearing for all these years. 

And when she (or they) tell the lawnmower story the loud subtext is obviously that Meeechelle (the babe JB snagged and can now with the blessing of Jesus pretend to bang on a mini golf course and international television!) was so hot as a teenager that a guy across the street left his wife because he was so overcome with temptation to go and grab sexy Meeechelle. ....

She and JB may claim that it's guilt over her "sin" about exposing some skin that makes that story tellable. But, in fact, it's not, in my opinion.  They're both damn excited that she was so hot. And that story is mostly a way to brag about it and secretly think about and relish sex  -- forbidden fruit!!! -- while pretending (to others and to themselves)  that they're talking about sin and repentance and good behavior. 

Edited July 27, 2019 by Churchhoney

[Churchhoney]

14 hours ago, Zella said:

Rereading the text again convinces me even more it is about temptation regarding other women since he specifically talking about in reference to "purity."

Also his note that he assumes it will hurt her. I don't think sharing more generic sins would have that effect, and I'm sure he knows that too.

Ditto for his comment about building trust. I don't think that would be applicable for sins that didn't involve him thinking of other women/lusting after them.

I think it is extremely disingenuous of him to then say she can fight with him. What a bunch of utter bullshit. If he has "committed adultery in his heart," as to quote Jimmy Carter, that's on him, not her, to rein that in.

Take a cue from Matthew 5:29 and pluck out your own sinful fucking eye, Jeremy, instead of putting it off on your poor wife! 

Exactly. And, to me, that's just more of the misogyny -- of the kind that involves putting the woman in a servant's place.

Somehow it's her responsibility to help poor Jeremy (who nevertheless is the only one of the pair who's great enough to be allowed to learn at his seminary and become a preacher, according to their beliefs) fight off his damn temptation.

If he's the only one capable of mustering the strength and wisdom to be a pastor, why does he need the assistance of his wife -- who's only good for baking cookies -- to tackle his personal problem? A problem that will make her feel bad just to hear about -- as a newlywed from an overwhelmingly sex-negative cult background -- let alone share the responsibility of solving. "Pray harder, Jingle. I'm still tempted." 

And it's all a humble brag on his part, anyway, seems to me. After all, in their belief system, they repeatedly say that Satan really only seriously tempts the leaders and the most important people. So, hell, Jer must be as important as all get out, since he's apparently being seriously tempted by something all day every day. 

Edited July 27, 2019 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

I believe much of what they say is not actually what they do. They like to publicly pontificate about all these religious platitudes, but at the end of the day, they all go home and behave in much the same way we all do.

Except when I'm mindlessly folding socks and towels, Jeremy and Jinger are ironing pocket squares and organizing baskets of bows.

[Churchhoney]

12 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

I believe much of what they say is not actually what they do. They like to publicly pontificate about all these religious platitudes, but at the end of the day, they all go home and behave in much the same way we all do.

Except when I'm mindlessly folding socks and towels, Jeremy and Jinger are ironing pocket squares and organizing baskets of bows.

Yep, I'd say you're absolutely right. They perform "religion" in public for professional status, glory and, whenever possible, money. 

Otherwise, it's a pretty ordinary life. (Except that women have to stay the hell out of any important classrooms or positions of influence....There is that little quirk of their "religion" that's still "different.")

[Jynnan tonnix]

9 hours ago, Zella said:

Rereading the text again convinces me even more it is about temptation regarding other women since he specifically talking about in reference to "purity."

Also his note that he assumes it will hurt her. I don't think sharing more generic sins would have that effect, and I'm sure he knows that too.

Ditto for his comment about building trust. I don't think that would be applicable for sins that didn't involve him thinking of other women/lusting after them.

I think it is extremely disingenuous of him to then say she can fight with him. What a bunch of utter bullshit. If he has "committed adultery in his heart," as to quote Jimmy Carter, that's on him, not her, to rein that in.

Take a cue from Matthew 5:29 and pluck out your own sinful fucking eye, Jeremy, instead of putting it off on your poor wife! 

That's where it all falls apart for me as well...If it was just generic sin - things like pride or envy, which talking about as a couple might actually be beneficial - the emphasis here is so much on purity, trust, and potential hurt that it all points to "sins of the flesh". And if, as others here have said, it all boils down to things like happening to appreciatively notice an attractive face or body in passing (as human beings do), then why even take it all to the extent of hashing it over in conversation. Surely that would only make it seem all that much more of a significant and compelling moment than a mere double-take.

If he is talking about actual temptation on the level of women coming on to him, well, maybe  it might be good for Jing to be aware that it happens, though I can't imagine they are coming out of the woodwork and throwing themselves at him nearly as much as he might imagine. And if he needs that much extra prayer for the strength to fend off their advances, maybe his marriage is not as happy as he would have us believe. 

It also strikes me, which I don't like, because much as I don't really like Jermy I want to think that he's reasonably benign, as a potentially controlling move. As though he is stressing to her just how many beautiful women there are out there and how persistently they are pursuing him, so she had better make sure she can compete against them. 

[Albanyguy]

1 hour ago, kokapetl said:

Him telling Jinger about the hot women he sees does nothing helpful for her. Anyone with half a brain already knows this stuff happens, him bringing it up will just lead to Jinger worrying about it all the time.

And I think that's really the point. Keep her off-balance and insecure, making sure she realizes how lucky she is that he married her.

[BigBingerBro]

It's all just a load of Christian psycho-babble that anyone mainstream would just call "communication" in a marriage.  

[lascuba]

We all know that "fight with me" is code for " fucks me immediately to rid me of temptation," right? It's also a perfect set up for blaming Jinger the day he does stray.

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

I believe much of what they say is not actually what they do. They like to publicly pontificate about all these religious platitudes, but at the end of the day, they all go home and behave in much the same way we all do.

Except when I'm mindlessly folding socks and towels, Jeremy and Jinger are ironing pocket squares and organizing baskets of bows.

God, I hope so, because the one thing that I've always had a problem understanding is how they go about their days talking like that to each other all the time. All the other ridiculous stuff they do? Yeah, I can see it. But the way they claim their interpersonal relationships and conversations work is just so completely the opposite of any kind of human interaction I've experienced or witnessed--from normal and stable to completely toxic--that it blows my mind and I just can't picture it at all. 

Edited July 27, 2019 by lascuba
Forgot a word.

[BradandJanet]

On 7/25/2019 at 5:51 PM, fonfereksglen said:

He doesn't have a Hollywood smile because of his teeth.  I'm sure that will be grifted next.  

I'd be surprised if he hasn't been casting around for veneers. Cosmetic dentistry isn't cheap, but Hollywood glamour doesn't come cheap unless Jeremy can figure out a grift. 

I worked with a stylish gay man, who started wearing leather loafers without socks to work every day. Since he always bought expensive clothes, I couldn't resist offering him some peds to protect his shoes. He declined.  

[Christina87]

4 hours ago, BigBingerBro said:

It's all just a load of Christian psycho-babble that anyone mainstream would just call "communication" in a marriage.  

I hope so. I just think it goes soooo far beyond what is healthy. I usually tell people close to me a lot about what happens in my life, but I hhave never encountered a boyfriend before who cared to hear anything like this:

"I read a book for a few minutes today. I need you to pray for me, because they were drinking in the book, and a part of me was thinking about how fun partying can be. The main characters also went to Europe, and I felt envious, so I sinned then too. After I read the book, I went to go get the leftover chicken out of the refrigerator, and for a second, thought about how much better ordering a pizza would be. That is so gluttonous, because it's unhealthy, and wasteful, since I'd be spending money when I have a perfectly good dinner already, and  it's close to being bad. And Lord, I really sinned when I threw out about two tablespoons of chicken salad. What gluttony! That chicken gave its life, and part of it ended up in the trash can. It also cost $5 at earth fare originally. Then, as I ate, I wished I had someone to talk to. I realized how selfish that was, because my friends are busy, and if they had time to call me, they would. Who am I to complain, with a roof over my head, and nutritious food to eat? How self centered. After I ate, I took the birds outside, and stayed out past dark. They were ready to go to sleep, but I made them stay out longer because I wanted to stay out. I am so selfish. What a sinful day. PLEASE PRAY FOR MY SOUL!!!!!"

i just can't call that communication in a marriage. ALL of those things are totally beside the point, and don't need to be mentioned. Saying, "I read a book. It was about this wild party! Then I had leftover chicken for dinner, and went outside with the birds. It felt so nice out there!" is all any boyfriend or husband needs to hear, and it's not even crucial information that they would die without. 

[Oldernowiser]

Christina87 wins the interwebz today!

[Suzn]

I'm starting to think I need to stay away from this site for awhile.  The amount of my energy and thought going into it is out of proportion to anything productive and worthwhile.  I'm not celebrity mad and I don't watch Counting On; my interest has been based on curiosity and  "keeping and eye on" people that I basically think are dangerous.  It has been filling a need to take breaks from work and give me something else to focus on. 

Looking at it in a broader way, we don't know these people and even if we personally met them, we would not know their intimate thoughts and feelings or how their relationships work behind closed doors.  This leads to endless speculation and predicting  the future for these people.  I think ultimately the speculations tells more about the speculators than the subjects of speculation.

I'm not criticizing any of you.  There are some amazingly bright and insightful people who post here.  I've enjoyed the discussions I've had with many of you.  I'm just thinking about how I use my time.  I'm not bailing out immediately, but may soon take a break.

[fonfereksglen]

2 hours ago, BradandJanet said:

I'd be surprised if he hasn't been casting around for veneers. Cosmetic dentistry isn't cheap, but Hollywood glamour doesn't come cheap unless Jeremy can figure out a grift. 

I worked with a stylish gay man, who started wearing leather loafers without socks to work every day. Since he always bought expensive clothes, I couldn't resist offering him some peds to protect his shoes. He declined.  

Watching Jing and Jer transform is like watching Kate Gosselin.  Hair,  getting thin, probably teeth work for Jer.  Wonder if Jer will be one of the ex jocks on Dancing With The Stars, with his wife and child watching adoringly from the audience?  🤩🤩🤩

[Absolom]

1 hour ago, Suzn said:

Looking at it in a broader way, we don't know these people and even if we personally met them, we would not know their intimate thoughts and feelings or how their relationships work behind closed doors.  This leads to endless speculation and predicting  the future for these people. 

This may be a good time to post this.  I said if I ran into them at their church I'd report.  I've kind of held back because there's nothing remarkable to say.  They were friendly, outgoing, warm, and personable.  There was no hint of arrogance from Jeremy in person.  They fit in with the congregation and didn't stand out from the rest of the people.  Felicity is a living doll.  So after sounding like a leghumper all I can say is at least attending church, they were an utterly normal apparently loving couple.  

The church, however, is not my brand at all.  It appears to be run by a cabal of white/grey haired white men in dark suits.  There are a few not yet white heads among the apparent leaders, but I didn't see many.  The choir is much more accepting of variety and their music program is exceptional.  I'd never seen a pneumatic lectern/pulpit before either.  When they have an orchestral piece, the pulpit sinks into the floor.  It fascinated me.  The sermon more resembled a boring college lecture than the exhortation to go forth and love thy fellow human being that I usually hear.  

[PradaKitty]

Ooh Evil Fancing!! And with a woman who is not his wife!! 

Yeaaahhhh this should go over well with the Duggars. 

Fancing is Fancy Pants dancing, in case you didn’ Know. 

[McManda]

1 hour ago, fonfereksglen said:

Wonder if Jer will be one of the ex jocks on Dancing With The Stars, with his wife and child watching adoringly from the audience?  🤩🤩🤩

I would watch this in a heartbeat. But only if his partner was Peta (and I didn't particularly like Peta, but she was better with some partners over others) because Peta's go-to for her dances was "sex sells". 

[leighdear]

13 minutes ago, Absolom said:

It appears to be run by a cabal of white/grey haired white men in dark suits robes.  There are a few not yet white heads among the apparent leaders, but I didn't see many.  

Hello, Catholic Church.  

[Absolom]

This bunch hates the Catholic Church.  They're Calvin all the way!  Too bad they can't see the resemblances.

[FizzyPuff]

20 hours ago, lascuba said:

Jeremy, though? He's not going to stay "pure" forever. If he even is now, because I highly doubt that he doesn't masturbate. No one who preaches against it as much as he does abstains from masturbation. 

I don’t think Jer masturbates, I reckon he probably did before he was married though (maybe even a lot) sorry brain bleach I know 🤢. Him talking a lot about the evils of masturbation is probably because of guilt.

[Tabbygirl521]

On 7/13/2019 at 3:28 PM, GeeGolly said:

"She is everything opposite to what this world says a woman ought to be...".

Those words are a big part of what makes the uber Christians of this world scary. Any really, they should just substitute the word 'woman' with non-hetero, non-man.

Also, it’s bullshit because she’s tarted up to look like every Barbie-doll wannabe temptress that ever appeared in a promotional piece. Which is fine but shut up. If she was really opposite, she’d be in the Duggars’ old prairie garb or Handmaid’s Tale outfit. 

[farmgal4]

On 7/26/2019 at 12:06 AM, Marigold said:

That has to upset her deep down, even if she doesn't acknowledge it. 

I think that’s a horrible thing to do.  That, more than anything else, tells me that he’s a SOB.

[ginger90]

[Madtown]

I love these pictures.

[allonsyalice]

18 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

Mid key looks like shes in Baby Jail and hes just visiting. 

[OpieTaylor]

4 hours ago, Absolom said:

This may be a good time to post this.  I said if I ran into them at their church I'd report.  I've kind of held back because there's nothing remarkable to say.  They were friendly, outgoing, warm, and personable.  There was no hint of arrogance from Jeremy in person.  They fit in with the congregation and didn't stand out from the rest of the people.  Felicity is a living doll.  So after sounding like a leghumper all I can say is at least attending church, they were an utterly normal apparently loving couple.  

Interesting to hear! Thanks for sharing!

[Kiss my mutt]

Probably the best thing Jeremy can do to reduce temptation is to not post 24/7 on Instagram like he’s a GQ model. He’s seeking the limelight like he’s a Hollywood man about town and who knows what comments, private messages he gets. Poor Jinger seems like she’s trying to keep up and I already suspect she restricts her eating that who knows what kind of influence this environment will have on her. Next thing you know she’ll be getting botox and breast implants. Jeremy’s vanity is going to be his undoing.