The Duggalos: Jinger and the Holy Goalie

[doodlebug]

17 minutes ago, ginger90 said:

I don’t think the two of them had anything to do with the article from inTouch, beyond the fact Jinger and Jeremy post on social media. The pictures were taken from Instagram. The story was written based on posts. It wasn’t an “exclusive”. It was also a rehash of a similar article from January, 2019.

I've heard of media types and their PR teams gathering up all of this kind of stuff and packaging it, complete with copy and captions, and submitting it to the various tabloids to use as free filler; just to keep their clients out there.  We know Jer and Jing have a PR firm, I would expect that this sort of stuff is par for the course for D list celebs like them.  The tabs are much more likely to publish a pre-packaged story handed to them for free than to assign and pay someone on their own staff to do it.

[Oldernowiser]

38 minutes ago, Oldernowiser said:

ETA: Because I’m too lazy to Google...does MacArthur have sons or another favorite blood male relative? Because I don’t see him handing off the Kingdom to a failed soccer player...

Okay, so I googled after all...he’s got two sons and two daughters...so you know the girls are out, although one of their husbands is making a fortune providing “video services” to the organization.

One of the sons is in deep shit with the SEC for investment fraud, so that probably leaves the oldest, Matt, as the heir apparent. Judging from his Twitter feed, he certainly has the necessary level of assholery to qualify.

Jer? Not seeing your megawatt career path in that cabal...just saying....

[Churchhoney]

Hadn't looked at the U.S. version of Murdoch's The Sun until just now. (all online) This article turned up on my Google news page. They just launched this site in Jan. 2020. 

But, yeah, I definitely would want to hire a pastor who seems to have given his personal stories to a website like this....Yeah, right....

https://www.the-sun.com/

Here's the current top story -- 

CREEPY CLAIMS 

Armie Hammer’s ex Paige Lorenze says he ‘kept mannequins in basement of his family home to learn how to tie up women’

There's a lot of Duggar stuff down in the bowels of this giant pile of "celebrity" ridiculousness, true, false and otherwise..

Duggar stuff doesn't seem to make it anywhere near the top group of horrifying nonsense, though, so I don't know that it's doing much for Jer's visibility. It probably only reaches people via news aggregators if you've already shown an interest in the Duggs. But I suppose publicists and thirsty wannabes figure that's better than nothing. 

The site will certainly publish anything that comes over the transom. It's got a pretty endless pile of "stories." Billions and billions, it seems. 

Edited January 23, 2021 by Churchhoney

[GeeGolly]

2 hours ago, ginger90 said:

I don’t think the two of them had anything to do with the article from inTouch, beyond the fact Jinger and Jeremy post on social media. The pictures were taken from Instagram. The story was written based on posts. It wasn’t an “exclusive”. It was also a rehash of a similar article from January, 2019.

I agree. They make up stories like this all the time, just like the Enquirer has done for decades. Its much easier now because of SM.

[Joan of Argh]

On 1/20/2021 at 6:40 PM, CalicoKitty said:

 

Sorry calicokitty, my quote box is acting up.

The article has 1 comment after it  "Who and Who?"

I think Jer sees himself as the next Joel Osteen with the pretty wife 🙄

[lascuba]

5 hours ago, Churchhoney said:

Maybe I'm crazy, but it seems to me Jer must be doing all this stuff because he believes he'll ultimately be able to base their life and livelihood and his ultimate career, whatever that is, on this foundation of celebrityhood somehow. It all seems very intentional on his part. 

But I don't see how their celebrityhood, such as it is, could really be parlayed into anything that would actually support them long term or open any meaningful doors to them. Seems to me he's going to have to get an actual plain-old regular job at some point.

Surely TLC will tire of paying Duggars at some point....or at least will keep slowly whittling down the paychecks, even as the cost of living rises. None of them does anything interesting (these breakout stars very much included in that...). I suppose the Duggs may come to rival The Simpsons in tv longevity, but it's hard for me to see how and why....

I may be missing something, but I I don't see that the celebrity tv preachers that he may want to emulate have ever gone at celebrityhood in the way he's apparently trying to do it. Getting yourself into tabloids with stories of how tired you and your wife are with your -- horrors! -- two children doesn't seem to have been the building block of any celebrity preacher's early career....Seems to me the real celeb preachers just turn up in the tabloids later in their careers when they get caught having affairs or whatever. They don't start out there, with stories about "date nights" and how well they organize canned goods and toddler dresses. 

And, once again, I have a hard time seeing a lot of church congregations really wanting to hire a pastor who's obviously fed tabloid media with this kind of story about himself in search of fame. Surely the combination of triviality and utter self-absorption in that would raise questions with most hiring committees....And when that's coupled with Jer's highly mediocre preaching and seemingly pretty lackluster people skills, and his shy, retiring, non-high-energy pastor's wife who's so far seemed to get involved in no actual church activities at all, it adds up to a fairly unimpressive resume, seems to me....

I'd really like to know where Jer thinks he's actually going and how he proposes to get there. Hard for me to see him as anything but kind of delusional about that. 

 

 

Jeremy absolutely plans/hopes to make a career out of celebrityhood--Jinger said as much when they were house hunting and she said a house that had been owned by a celebrity back in the day (Charlie Chaplin, iirc) would be better for their career.

They're trying to emulate the trajectory of social media stars that made it big, but like every other trend the Duggars latch onto, they're way late to that party. The days of random people getting rich and famous off youtube/instagram/etc. are long gone, but Jeremy isn't going to give up that goal any time soon, especially because Jinger's fame and prepackaged audience should give them a leg up. If people have become rich from opening toy boxes on youtube, SURELY Jeremy and Jinger's time is coming.

I don't think the preacher aspect of things is all that relevant. That's not what Jeremy wants, not really. If the "foodie" and "fashion" stuff got him numbers, he'd drop McArthur in a heartbeat. But he married a famous fundie; his dad is a pastor and got him into it; Jeremy likes the idea of a captive audience taking his every word as, well, gospel. It's the most obvious stepping stone/back-up plan. MacArthur and his ilk don't care about his social media nonsense because, 1)people in power don't believe the shit they preach; 2)they don't understand social media but they know enough to know that people can become rich and famous, and with fame come really effective advertising. They're hoping/expecting for Jeremy to deliver for them in that department.

As far as potential congregations? I'm not going to pretend to understand how believers think and perceive things...I can't relate at all. But judging from *gestures at American evangelicals*--Jeremy's social media and tabloid nonsense isn't likely to be a factor. His complete lack oratory skills, biting rhetoric, or charisma, though...yeah, that's going to be a problem.

[Adeejay]

On 1/21/2021 at 11:48 PM, Albanyguy said:

I think Jinger left thrift shops behind her a long time ago, along with Tater Tot Casserole and communal clothes closets.

Ten years ago, if someone had told me that this would be Jinger's life, I would have thought they were crazy.  Jessa - yes; Jinger - most definitely not. 

[Zella]

51 minutes ago, lascuba said:

But judging from *gestures at American evangelicals*--Jeremy's social media and tabloid nonsense isn't likely to be a factor. 

From my experience, I think a lot of congregations would take one look at his social media and the tabloid stuff and think he was too worldly and/or insufficiently fervent in his faith. And actually I would agree with that assessment and never hire him as a pastor if I had any say in that.

The people I know who are attracted to the John MacArthur school of thought especially tend to have giant sticks up their asses, and I don't see them being amused by Jeremy's social media persona such as it is. Then again, I would never would have imagined John MacArthur would have been a fan of it, either, but it doesn't seem to have affected Jeremy's standing in the pecking order. 

Edited January 24, 2021 by Zella

[satrunrose]

I'm on team leaked by JinJer themselves, mostly because of the marital problems (oh no!) -> date night -> fixed! bit. That is straight out of the "Young married fundies without jobs or educations, or anything much to talk about, but there's still money to be made on the lecture circuit!" playbook. (See Ben and Jessa, the Rolofs, Jill and her NOT Kama Sutra, at least a few of the Bates via SM). Now, we all know how those couples became breakout stars and household names so... 

Un oh, Jer! A day late and a dollar short again!

[iwantcookies]

Can you imagine Jer/Jinger shelling sex toys/books etc 

 

bwahaha haha 

 

 

[floridamom]

Maybe there's something wrong with me but Jinger doesn't have to go to work every day. Why is she exhausted with 2 children? Many women have two children and have to go out to a 40 hour a week job...and they actually COOK their family's meals. Jinger doesn't cook. It's evident to me with that pristine oven that was shown. There is no reason for Ms. Princess Jinger to be exhausted. Marital problems? How could this be since Jim Bob Duggar prays for the Godly, perfect husband for each of his daughters...(except housemaid Jana)? Aren't their lives supposed to be perfectly happy and 'heaven on Earth"?

[Snow Fairy]

I am more tired with 2 children if I stay at home, than when I'm at work.

Probably because of the rut, every day is the same. When I work, I communicate with my colleagues, I feel useful, and I can honestly be a better mom.

My kids were at home from kindergarten more than a month in December/January, and we were all a bit crazy (they are in kindergarten from approximately 8 until 3).

So I understand her. And maybe she got baby blues, PPD or something. This is all hormones related, does not have to be because of a bad marriage

[Totally]

I’ve been both a SAHM and working Mum ... working and kids is way tougher, just everyone out the door on time in the morning was exhausting, let alone coming home to get a meal on the table and wrangle little kids to bath and bed after a full day of work. 
although there can be a tediousness to life with little kids at least as a SAHM I could get things done during the day, get a meal going in the slow cooker while kids were having breakfast, get some washing done in between kid wrangling,lay when they lay down. 
if the claims of jinger being exhausted are true she gets no sympathy from me, she’s never done a days work in her life, let alone done a days work with small children 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by Totally

[Tasya]

Being a SAHM is no easier than being a WM, that's such a biased statement. When you stay home with your children there is no "off time". You essentially work all hours and you never get a break from them or any time to yourself. 

[Snow Fairy]

5 minutes ago, Tasya said:

Being a SAHM is no easier than being a WM, that's such a biased statement. When you stay home with your children there is no "off time". You essentially work all hours and you never get a break from them or any time to yourself. 

I agree. At work we take breaks, go to get coffee (ok maybe this is different from US), talk with adults about non-kids topics. With kids, there is no such thing. Always someone needs something

But I as say, maybe it is different in the US than in my country

Edited January 25, 2021 by Snow Fairy

[Scarlett45]

I can certainly understand why Jinger is exhausted- it’s very likely she could be depressed. Add in being pregnant during the pandemic (something I wouldn’t want to have to experience), living far from family, having your routine disrupted, then giving birth and having a toddler/newborn to care for with the pandemic still occurring. 
 

No Jinger & Jeremy haven’t followed guidelines the way many people in CA have, but I can see how the pandemic and restrictions have disrupted their lives. She also may physically just not have felt well during this pregnancy/post partum period. 
 

All that together- yes I can believe she is exhausted. 

[BetyBee]

My mind always goes to postpartum issues, which can happen to any woman. In Fundie world, a woman is not likely to receive help, so if that is Jinger's issue, I'm glad if she is getting a nanny. 

[GeeGolly]

Gossip magazines combine common sense with existing and new rumors to write these articles. Very rarely, if ever, do they speak with the 'stars' or any other "source". The articles are never flattering and are always written to get readers riled up.

Celebrities have said, unless a magazine crosses a line they won't sue because its too much trouble and any press is good press. But ... because more celebrities have sued, the articles have become less salacious and more mundane, and harder to prove false.

I'm guessing all new moms are tired. I bet many couples have increased spats while adjusting to newborns and lack of sleep. I also think every mother in the world has wished for a nanny at least once in their kids lifetimes. 

This article did what it wanted. It painted an ugly picture of a 'celebrity' couple and got increased clicks.

[doodlebug]

2 hours ago, Tasya said:

Being a SAHM is no easier than being a WM, that's such a biased statement. When you stay home with your children there is no "off time". You essentially work all hours and you never get a break from them or any time to yourself. 

I think it is a very individual thing, each woman is different.  I had two sisters, both had kids, one worked outside the home fulltime, the other chose to stay home.  Aside from the fact that my sister loved being with her kids, she loved homemaking including cooking from scratch, shopping on a budget, keeping house.  She was also very social and organized various mom's groups, book clubs and such with other moms in the neighborhood so she could have some adult company during the day.  My other sister loved to work, she loved her job; she did not love housework and, while she loved her kids every bit as much as my other sister; she felt she was a better mom, spent more quality time with them, enjoyed them more when she wasn't with them 24/7.

If my sisters switched lives, I think they would've found the other's life unbearable.

I am sure Jinger is tired; she has a newborn and a busy toddler.  She also has a husband who believes in very strict gender roles who I doubt is much help to her.  Both of my sisters married men who didn't have such hangups and could be counted on to pitch in when possible.

Edited January 25, 2021 by doodlebug

[Churchhoney]

2 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

Gossip magazines combine common sense with existing and new rumors to write these articles. Very rarely, if ever, do they speak with the 'stars' or any other "source". The articles are never flattering and are always written to get readers riled up.

Celebrities have said, unless a magazine crosses a line they won't sue because its too much trouble and any press is good press. But ... because more celebrities have sued, the articles have become less salacious and more mundane, and harder to prove false.

I'm guessing all new moms are tired. I bet many couples have increased spats while adjusting to newborns and lack of sleep. I also think every mother in the world has wished for a nanny at least once in their kids lifetimes. 

This article did what it wanted. It painted an ugly picture of a 'celebrity' couple and got increased clicks.

I think you're misunderstanding this particular website, The Sun, and this particular story.

Murdoch's UK "The Sun," which has been bleeding money for quite a while, decided to get a few dollars and maybe some increased reader interest by spinning off a bunch of international "editions" over the last couple years, including a US edition. They're huge huge websites, fanned out by a dwindling enterprise, and they are clearly done mostly mechanically. They have literally thousands of stories, multiplying exponentially every day, and the main way those stories get viewed is through news aggregators. 

This is a company struggling for cash, and there's no way in hell they have enough writers -- no matter how poorly paid -- to actually write the vast majority of the stories. Particularly the many thousands that are down in the bowels of the website, never getting anywhere near the top of the pile, and that deal with the gazillions of D-and-far-lower celeb lists that the Duggs are part of. 

The websites pick almost all the stuff up from elsewhere -- often in its entirety -- and lots and lots of it comes over the transom, prewritten by the "celebs" themselves and their publicists. Lots and lots and lots and lots of it.

(Why am I so sure of this? I've been a reporter at the national level for over 30 years. And the amount of pre-written "stories" I've received  in the mail and email over those years would stretch to the moon and back several times. I get hundreds of emails like that every day of my life, and have ever since email became a thing. And I've never run even part of one of those stories and I've emailed or phoned somebody back regarding maybe 1 out of 1000 of such messages I've gotten. And yet I still get them, in droves.  And I've never even covered "celebs" in the Duggar or Hollywood sense. Ever. (Businesses, lawmakers, universities, etc. etc. etc. send pre-written stuff, too!) "Publications" -- now just "websites," constructed mostly by algorithms -- that want that stuff and that do write "celeb" journalism get tons of it.) 

"The Sun, US" certainly doesn't employ enough writers to have enough knowledge of the tens of thousands of people worldwide they run stories about. They don't have people who know about Duggar date nights and who could come up with quotes from Jer about the deep personal spiritual revelations he and his bride are exhausted from sharing on their podcast. Etc.

Enterprises like this have nothing but a barebones staff who tinker with a few things -- for the stories that get the top spots on the site -- and maybe aggregate-write some of those stories from other reports. And maybe write click-bait headlines for as much stuff as possible, although a lot of that's done by computers now, too. But they would never pay for a staff that knows -- or has time to research and report -- enough details about all the tens of thousands of other people who have stories about them on the site to be able to publish stuff that fans (or haters) of those people would find remotely credible.

And the stuff has to have some credible details for fans since nobody will see it unless they get it because of an algorithm -- i.e., nobody will see it unless they're already interested in the people in the story. We fans (or haters) have to recognize some credible details in the stories -- because The Sun wants us to see them as at least a bit credible so we'll click on their stuff a bit more when it comes up in our feeds. So, unlike many regular journos, they see the publicists/celebs doing The Sun a solid by sending their pre-written stuff.  

Plus, this isn't a negative story! It's not in any way a gossipy or snide hit piece. 

It's clearly intended to be a very positive story, aimed at being relatable and full of emotions and facts of everyday life that "fans" can identify with. And it offers a correct-Jesus Duggar solution -- the date night. And, of course, in the story Jer took off work to help Jingle -- which is the kind of anecdote he needs right now to shore up his reputation before he needs to sell their upcoming book. All that's a production of a "celeb" and his publicist. I've seen plenty of those and that's how they run. These stories are being placed wherever they can get them (which is hardly any place...) by the people who want the publicity. You can bank on it. It's pre-publication hype from Jer and his publicist.

Get people all involved in imagining their marriage and worrying about it and worrying about Jingle and thinking of them as cool because they're rich celebs who could hire a nanny but who struggle (just like YOU!). And then when the book comes out in a few months, it'll entice more buyers. That's the point. They're about to sell a book about their marriage. So their marriage better have some juice (with sugar and some acid), so more people will fork over bucks to read about it and about the godly things they use to cope with their troubles that we've now all been alerted to. 

 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by Churchhoney

[Ohiopirate02]

I agree that this is pre-publication hype for Jeremy and Jinger.  I did some digging around, and their book is the first big book for their revamped imprint, Worthy Books.  Hachette is relaunching the imprint this year after purchasing the smaller publisher back in 2018.  I do wish I could access the paid website that announces book deals to see what their advance was.  That will really tell how much their publisher is allocating to their marketing campaign.  The higher the advance, the more the publisher is willing to do to sell more copies.  

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/religion/article/84983-hachette-nashville-to-relaunch-worthy-publishing.html

 

[Oldernowiser]

I hope that book sells exactly 12 copies. Maybe 20, given how many relatives might pay up. But they’ll just want free copies or not even bother.

Yes, that’s probably mean-spirited of me. But there are so many zillion people out there with actual writing talent who can’t get noticed enough to be published that this piece of ego fluff for Jesus getting published makes me crabby.

[BitterApple]

I can't think of her name, but there's a woman on YouTube who's a former editor for Star Magazine, and she said the majority of their content was fed to them from celebrity publicists. 

I agree it's a deliberate strategy to built up hype for the book, as is keeping the kids off social media. Two unemployed people grifting their way through L.A., isn't a very exciting story. But throw in marital discord, possible PPD, mom stress and the pandemic, and they can triumphantly proclaim they overcame it and their marriage is stronger than ever. It's nothing but one giant, predictable script. 

[Churchhoney]

43 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I agree that this is pre-publication hype for Jeremy and Jinger.  I did some digging around, and their book is the first big book for their revamped imprint, Worthy Books.  Hachette is relaunching the imprint this year after purchasing the smaller publisher back in 2018.  I do wish I could access the paid website that announces book deals to see what their advance was.  That will really tell how much their publisher is allocating to their marketing campaign.  The higher the advance, the more the publisher is willing to do to sell more copies.  

https://www.publishersweekly.com/pw/by-topic/industry-news/religion/article/84983-hachette-nashville-to-relaunch-worthy-publishing.html

 

Plus, given the sad facts about people's spending on books these, days, publishers love you as a writer much much more now if you proactively do your own promotion -- the more the better. Willingness and ability to do that is very often -- if not always -- a factor in deciding to give somebody a book contract today, especially when it comes to people who haven't published anything before. And that appears to hold for pretty much every book category, as I understand it. 

So Jer -- who already had a publicist -- is a Worthy dream "author" right now. I'd be surprised if that's not one of the very top reasons they picked the D-Vs to be one of the early book subjects in their relaunch. 

He loves publicizing himself and came into the thing with not just a social media platform and a tv platform, but with a history of (not too successfully...but still...) working with his own publicists and photographers to make himself well known and influential. And I think that's still a bit unusual in the world, even with so many people scrambling to be influencers. So this book is going to get a double-pronged promotion -- from the publisher and from the Duggar-Vuolo PR apparatus.

My guess is that these particular stories are Duggar-Vuolo-publicist creations, but the publisher might be giving some input, too. In any case, Jer's currently their wet dream, I'd bet. And -- unfortunately, in this case! -- it will help sales.. Question is, how much. 

 

Edited January 25, 2021 by Churchhoney

[Ohiopirate02]

40 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Plus, given the sad facts about people's spending on books these, days, publishers love you as a writer much much more now if you proactively do your own promotion -- the more the better. Willingness and ability to do that is very often -- if not always -- a factor in deciding to give somebody a book contract today, especially when it comes to people who haven't published anything before. And that appears to hold for pretty much every book category, as I understand it. 

So Jer -- who already had a publicist -- is a Worthy dream "author" right now. I'd be surprised if that's not one of the very top reasons they picked the D-Vs to be one of the early book subjects in their relaunch. 

He loves publicizing himself and came into the thing with not just a social media platform and a tv platform, but with a history of (not too successfully...but still...) working with his own publicists and photographers to make himself well known and influential. And I think that's still a bit unusual in the world, even with so many people scrambling to be influencers. So this book is going to get a double-pronged promotion -- from the publisher and from the Duggar-Vuolo PR apparatus.

My guess is that these particular stories are Duggar-Vuolo-publicist creations, but the publisher might be giving some input, too. In any case, Jer's currently their wet dream, I'd bet. And -- unfortunately, in this case! -- it will help sales.. Question is, how much. 

 

I think Worthy looked at Jinger and Jeremy's total Instagram followers and did the math.  They only need 5% of them to buy the book for it to recoup their investment.  That would be around 50,000 copies plus libraries.  I'm being conservative and capping their followers at 1 million.  The publisher is smart enough to not factor in Jeremy's followers.  Jinger is the one who has the million plus followers and is the bigger name.  

I do suspect that their book will sell decently the first week when all of the pre-orders are processed, and then steeply drop off.  Then the ebook will be heavily discounted in order to boost sales for another week or two.  By that time, Worthy will have a new book to push.  I expect it to sell between 50,000-75,000 copies though.  Unless it becomes a runaway bestseller in the quasi-christian market like Girl, Wash Your Face.  

[HoneyBeach]

7 hours ago, floridamom said:

Maybe there's something wrong with me but Jinger doesn't have to go to work every day. Why is she exhausted with 2 children? Many women have two children and have to go out to a 40 hour a week job...and they actually COOK their family's meals. Jinger doesn't cook. It's evident to me with that pristine oven that was shown. There is no reason for Ms. Princess Jinger to be exhausted. Marital problems? How could this be since Jim Bob Duggar prays for the Godly, perfect husband for each of his daughters...(except housemaid Jana)? Aren't their lives supposed to be perfectly happy and 'heaven on Earth"?

YES! I was a single mom, had to get up for every night feeding, get up and dressed and dress her, take her to daycare, go to work, pick her up, come home and cook, clean, wash, everything. I never felt "exhausted", this is just what needed to be done, so I did it. Never gave it a second thought. My mom had 3 of us, worked 40 hours and overtime when available, cooked everyday including the weekends, baked on Sundays, went to a laundromat cause we didn't have a washer and dryer, I could go on. It's just what it was.

[leighdear]

1 hour ago, BitterApple said:

 Two unemployed people grifting their way through L.A., isn't a very exciting story. But throw in marital discord, possible PPD, mom stress and the pandemic, and they can triumphantly proclaim they overcame it and their marriage is stronger than ever. It's nothing but one giant, predictable script. 

And they didn't even need a screenwriter, as TLC did most of the pre-production for them.  It's like a movie you'd find on any fundie-type channel, and they get to star as themselves.  They don't even need Kirk Cameron to help promote it. 

Pretty damn smart, actually.  

[yogi2014L]

8 hours ago, Snow Fairy said:

I am more tired with 2 children if I stay at home, than when I'm at work.

 

I have a toddler and am pregnant with #2 due in May. I work part time. My work just finally reopened after being shut down for ten weeks , and this was my first weekend back at work. My Husband was parenting from 8 am to 12 pm ( only 4 hours) and both days when I came home he had a nap when my daughter did. It is Exhausting!!I feel like I've been on vacation all weekend, honestly. LOL. 

However, with two parents fully at home for the most part, Jinger should not feel the entire burden of childcare day in and day out. I am sure Jeremy is completely useless and unhelpful. My husband has a very demanding, out of the house job, and every day I still get about 2 hours of a break + post bedtime to relax/ do what I want to do. There are no excuses to why Jeremy seems to be this way aside from 'patriarchy'

But, at any rate, maybe this will inspire them to STOP having kids and only take on what they can handle. I feel like Jill learned this lesson, and hopefully Jinger will too. 

[Dirndl]

1 hour ago, HoneyBeach said:

YES! I was a single mom, had to get up for every night feeding, get up and dressed and dress her, take her to daycare, go to work, pick her up, come home and cook, clean, wash, everything. I never felt "exhausted", this is just what needed to be done, so I did it. Never gave it a second thought. My mom had 3 of us, worked 40 hours and overtime when available, cooked everyday including the weekends, baked on Sundays, went to a laundromat cause we didn't have a washer and dryer, I could go on. It's just what it was.

I guess some people are better at parenting than others. I'm a single mom of a 1 year old and I'm exhausted. I love my boy to death but I'm tired constantly.  Imaging having a toddler and a newborn, no, I could never do it. 

[Jeanne222]

Just reading along and thinking 'these people really know how to work the system'!

[Temperance]

I put this in the Sweet Fellowship thread, but Gabby and Cade have a baby girl named Baylah May Foehner. She was born January 18, 2021.

[BigBingerBro]

[leighdear]

14 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

Just reading along and thinking 'these people really know how to work the system'!

What "system" are they in that they're "working"?   

[laurakaye]

52 minutes ago, BigBingerBro said:

Ha!  I know these are still screenshots but those photos of JereMe crack me right up because that's probably more what he looks like in real life as he snarfs down his food, as opposed to his typical carefully crafted douchecanoe poses.  And he approves of crust with sauce and cheese?  Color me shocked - where's the hand-cut goat cheese from a kale-fed goat in Sicily?  The perfect chorizo from the pretentious deli down the street?  The delicately toasted pine nuts?  I'm stunned he wants to be shown eating a commoner's pizza.

And I'm not sure what he means by "weekly iPhone screen time report is convicting?"  Does he mean that his iPhone busted him on how much time he actually does spend on his phone when he thinks he's being a good boy and not spending all his free time scrolling to see what Cade is up to?  

 

[Normades]

9 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

And I'm not sure what he means by "weekly iPhone screen time report is convicting?"  Does he mean that his iPhone busted him on how much time he actually does spend on his phone when he thinks he's being a good boy and not spending all his free time scrolling to see what Cade is up to?  

These fundies and their convicting and fellowshipping.  Do they ever have convicting fellowship or does that only go on in prison?

[BigBingerBro]

9 minutes ago, laurakaye said:

And I'm not sure what he means by "weekly iPhone screen time report is convicting?

Well I'm sure his screen time far out paces any time he spends studying, helping Jinger with the family or anything else for that matter.

[SMama]

That is one sad, unappetizing “pizza.”  SGirl (13) makes a chicken, bacon, with ranch/garlic sauce pizza, final toppings are Italian seasonings, and grated Parmesan. And yes, I forgot to add the mozzarella. My girl is an actual foodie, when eating out and at home. Jeremy is a poser, a vacuous one. 

[QuinnInND]

And still no pics of the baby.  So strange. That pizza reminds me of the boxed Chef Boy R Dee ones. Couldn't get more basic. 

[laurakaye]

Oh man, now I want a Chef Boy R Dee pizza....

In my imagination, JereMe was stuck at home and wanted to order a fancy takeout pizza costing approximately $48.50 but his debit card was declined because he doesn't have a job and no one bought any desperation-scented candles from Hoof & Steed to bring in another $1.67 in profit so he whined and moped about how he really really wanted pizza, so Jing - in between diaper changes, laundry folding and entertaining a toddler - offered to make him one to shut him up.  Hence the store-bought crust, the jar of Ragu and some tossed-on pre-shredded cheese.  Then he insisted on her taking some video of him loving it to prove that his face doesn't actually belong on the Mount Rushmore of Pretentiousness.  I'd say it backfired because he just looks stupid.

[Ohiopirate02]

40 minutes ago, QuinnInND said:

And still no pics of the baby.  So strange. That pizza reminds me of the boxed Chef Boy R Dee ones. Couldn't get more basic. 

That is definitely a premade crust of some sort.  It's too round for starters.  I have made my own pizzas at home with balls of premade dough, and have never achieved a perfect circle.  

[BigBingerBro]

How ironic, I was just looking  in my pantry and I have a Chef Boyardee Pizza Kit.  Mayb pizza tonight.

I hope he burned his mouth scarfing that down.  Wow can I be mean to posers. 🙄

[Jeanne222]

2 hours ago, leighdear said:

What "system" are they in that they're "working"?   

The system that lines their pockets with gold!  The system that tells them how to work the crowd to sell more books and finally the system that shows them how to amass large followings to become an influencer and be showered with products you advertise on your social media!

[leighdear]

7 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

The system that lines their pockets with gold!  The system that tells them how to work the crowd to sell more books and finally the system that shows them how to amass large followings to become an influencer and be showered with products you advertise on your social media!

Then it sounds like they're doing it right, like millions of other people, and every celebrity on the planet.  

 

 

[xwordfanatik]

Now I want to know what grift gift they'll give Punchable Aunt Cade's kid?

Douchecanoe.  I love that term, kudos to whomever coined it.  If the douchecanoe fits, wear it.  It fits RFP perfectly.  

[HoneyBeach]

22 hours ago, Dirndl said:

I guess some people are better at parenting than others. I'm a single mom of a 1 year old and I'm exhausted. I love my boy to death but I'm tired constantly.  Imaging having a toddler and a newborn, no, I could never do it. 

I didn't mean to knock you, I really am surprised when I hear people who don't work outside the home - on top of the work in the home, say they are exhausted. Maybe it's just because of my upbringing, I have been helping since I was 5, like cleaning the bathrooms when I was in kindergarten. 

[DangerousMinds]

2 hours ago, leighdear said:

Then it sounds like they're doing it right, like millions of other people, and every celebrity on the planet.  

 

 

Most celebrities have talent of some kind 🤷‍♀️.

[BitterApple]

I doth my cap to those of you who can make pizza at home. Every time I've tried, it comes out looking and tasting like garbage.

[GeeGolly]

And I'm that person. Our homemade pizzas were English muffins, jarred sauce, whatever cheese we had, which might have been only Parmesan and whatever leftovers were in the fridge. 

For a food snob, Jeremy certainly has a taste for what I consider regular-Joe take out foods. Even if they're prepared in the home.

[Ohiopirate02]

22 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

And I'm that person. Our homemade pizzas were English muffins, jarred sauce, whatever cheese we had, which might have been only Parmesan and whatever leftovers were in the fridge. 

For a food snob, Jeremy certainly has a taste for what I consider regular-Joe take out foods. Even if they're prepared in the home.

Your homemade pizzas sound a lot like the ones Jill makes.  Honestly,  if Jill was the one who posted that pizza, I would say it's a step up from the other ones she has posted.  I expect more from the Vuolos.

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, GeeGolly said:

And I'm that person. Our homemade pizzas were English muffins, jarred sauce, whatever cheese we had, which might have been only Parmesan and whatever leftovers were in the fridge. 

For a food snob, Jeremy certainly has a taste for what I consider regular-Joe take out foods. Even if they're prepared in the home.

Growing up, I remember the occasional Chef Boyardee pizza kit in our house. Then we got a good pizza place in town and that was over.