2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[Lona]

3 hours ago, Holly85 said:

http://www.cmt.com/video-clips/auyzgf/dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-making-the-team-the-recruits-face-media-scrutiny

Gonna hold out SOME hope that maybe, just MAYBE, there will be a longer scene or something from Julia's answer. Because, wow. That was pretty bad. Even if she didn't meant for it to be negative, that came across pretty poorly. Throwing out the word "resume" like that? NOPE.

Also, just going to say I'm interested to see if that was the main reason she was thrown out or if it was something else. Still think she would've made a great DCC, but yeah. That segment was concerning.

[MyFavShows]

2 hours ago, Jennv said:

It’s super obnoxious that K and C get so offended by anyone who dares to think bigger than DCC. They want these girls to believe that DCC is the greatest achievement of their life, and it’s all downhill from there. Selfish and unrealistic, to the point of being downright dumb. 

Very true, but you don’t go into a job interview and tell them that you are trying to get the job so you can build your resume and move on to something better as soon as possible - it’s a sure fire way to not get the job no matter how qualified you are. 

[Agent Gully]

Oh Julia, it would have been better to have had "no words". 

[DCC-UK]

12 hours ago, Lona said:

Random musing of the day: Rachel A. has really grown on me. These past couple of seasons I hadn't really thought about her (dancwise, facewise, physicalwise, personality, nada), but I think that's because we don't see see her that much. However this last episode they gave her a chance to talk, and her voice sounds very sweet, nice and pretty.

I was wondering what people thought about her?

I've always been a Rachel A fan but I wish they'd have cut her hair to begin with. It makes her stand out and she has a 'healthier' body type than some. She was good in the DCC style in her first year but she's certainly evolved and pops when they're in smaller groups to me. I've noticed her when guest choreographers come in and her hip hop is really strong. 

She reminds me of Heather, personality-wise. One of the quieter ones but really poised and well-spoken. Doesn't seem to have an over-the-top personality like some do! She's also well-liked so must be a great teammate!

[raindancer]

5 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

Very true, but you don’t go into a job interview and tell them that you are trying to get the job so you can build your resume and move on to something better as soon as possible - it’s a sure fire way to not get the job no matter how qualified you are. 

so much this.  Distaste for DCC being used as a "stepping stone" does not mean you somehow believe that DCC is the only achievement of any importance.  Kelli has always seemed to be really proud of the kinds of professional accomplishments these women are capable of, and that has also been highlighted on the show (Cersten, Amy T., Melissa, etc).  It makes the team look good and she knows it.  However, using DCC as just a means to an end denotes a really self-centered point of view, and I think that's what Kelli takes issue with.  It definitely implies a lack of dedication and sincerity, which are qualities she tries to look for.  I think that's on point, so I'm not going to get too mad at her when she makes mistakes sometimes about some of the girls she's put her trust in, because I do think her heart is in the right place (even if the rest of her might be a bit off kilter sometimes).

[ByTor]

Regarding Kashara and her "honesty" that gets her in trouble.  Is she "honest" or is she one of those people who ramble on with no filter and excuse it as "Hey, just being honest!"?

[cgloss]

I’m not surprised Heather isn’t in the triangle - she’s never been a powerful dancer. We saw her being outdanced just this year during show group auditions. 

[Opine]

9 hours ago, Muckypup61 said:

 Fun little article. https://people.com/style/the-history-of-the-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-look/

And who models the current look...KaSexy!!!!

[Jess14]

2 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Very true, but you don’t go into a job interview and tell them that you are trying to get the job so you can build your resume and move on to something better as soon as possible - it’s a sure fire way to not get the job no matter how qualified you are. 

Agreed. I think the “stepping stone” thing is ridiculous in the way that Kelli leveled it against Madeline. Nothing wrong with a DCC dreaming of being on Broadway one day, and I think it’s questionable whether having DCC on the resume is even helpful in that regard.

Here, however, Julia literally mentioned her resume and building it with DCC. That’s different. It may be true, but you never say that during an interview process.  Had she just said that she wants to be a broadcast journalist or an anchor when she’s done dancing, I think that would’ve been fine, but she didn’t. I like Julia, but she gave them an easy reason for them to cut her.

[parrotfeathers]

6 hours ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Yikes Julia! Don't tell them that.

Even pollyanna me can say that was unfortunate for her.   Kelli didn't think Kat did well, but I think she was fine.  I think she comes across as everyone's friend.  Kristen did well too.  All of them did.  Except Julia.

Trying to figure out how being a DCC enhances your resume for broadcast journalism.  Unless it is sports related?

[Pj3422]

Oh, Julia, honey, it would’ve been better if you “had no words.’ One question — does the podcast have a video version? I thought it was odd to have Kristen sign for an audio broadcast.

[PattiD4DCC]

11 hours ago, Muckypup61 said:

 Fun little article. https://people.com/style/the-history-of-the-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-look/

Thank you for that muckypup. Hadn't seen that one before.  The crystal stars are "engineered" - who knew!  

[CaseyLee0911]

1 hour ago, parrotfeathers said:

Even pollyanna me can say that was unfortunate for her.   Kelli didn't think Kat did well, but I think she was fine.  I think she comes across as everyone's friend.  Kristen did well too.  All of them did.  Except Julia.

Trying to figure out how being a DCC enhances your resume for broadcast journalism.  Unless it is sports related?

poor julia! I really liked her. I have quite a few friends I cheered with in college who have gone on to work for different teams as sideline reporters and also local news anchors. I think its mostly because they were gorgeous and comfortable in front of the camera, not necessarily due to their sports knowledge. Still, that answer was cringe worthy on her part. 

I dont get Kat. I want to get her. I want to like her. I feel like im missing something that everyone else can see in her. somebody help me like kat!

[KatieC]

1 hour ago, parrotfeathers said:

Even pollyanna me can say that was unfortunate for her.   Kelli didn't think Kat did well, but I think she was fine.  I think she comes across as everyone's friend.  Kristen did well too.  All of them did.  Except Julia.

Trying to figure out how being a DCC enhances your resume for broadcast journalism.  Unless it is sports related?

That clip of Julia is just shocking. If I recall there was a post when Julia was cut about her being set up by an opposing news station at media training. I’m looking forward to seeing if more is shown when it airs. She said what she said and I don’t know how that could be a set up or simply editing to make her look bad. 

[PattiD4DCC]

8 hours ago, Tuxcat said:

Mystery solved everyone. Julia messes up on the media training. Big mistake! Check out the preview! 

You let the "kat out of the bag" Julia and that's a gotcha moment for TPTB. Sadly, we can never unhear the content of what she said, and she is now living with the consequences, but honestly, why do they call it media "training" when it really seems to be media sink or swim. 

While I agree Julia should have known better, all the training seems to be after the fact. Such a shame, she would have been great on this year's team. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by PattiD4DCC

[OK Lucy]

4 hours ago, MyFavShows said:

Very true, but you don’t go into a job interview and tell them that you are trying to get the job so you can build your resume and move on to something better as soon as possible - it’s a sure fire way to not get the job no matter how qualified you are. 

So very true. Having a plan for your life is great, and using one job as a way to the next is how those plans get achieved, but you don’t say that in the interview! 

[PhillyFan]

12 hours ago, Muckypup61 said:

 Fun little article. https://people.com/style/the-history-of-the-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-look/

Judy’s hair 😍😍😍

[Lolfordays]

36 minutes ago, KatieC said:

That clip of Julia is just shocking. If I recall there was a post when Julia was cut about her being set up by an opposing news station at media training. I’m looking forward to seeing if more is shown when it airs. She said what she said and I don’t know how that could be a set up or simply editing to make her look bad. 

Back in the day, Jordan was quite open (on the show and off) about parlaying DCC into a sports journalism career.  Kelly specifically mentioned during media training she wasn’t that great at it.

of course, Jordan just used that career as a stepping stone to being a WAG, so...

Edited October 3, 2019 by Lolfordays

[IzzyEnd]

43 minutes ago, CaseyLee0911 said:

poor julia! I really liked her. I have quite a few friends I cheered with in college who have gone on to work for different teams as sideline reporters and also local news anchors. I think its mostly because they were gorgeous and comfortable in front of the camera, not necessarily due to their sports knowledge. Still, that answer was cringe worthy on her part. 

I dont get Kat. I want to get her. I want to like her. I feel like im missing something that everyone else can see in her. somebody help me like kat!

Kat may truly be missing some traditionally expected dance skills, knowledge and DCC world ties. Her candid off-the-cuff comments may grate a nerve or two. But what can help is to see her genuine gratitude for the forgiveness, opportunity, and space to improve she is being given. Kat seems like she is willing to improve in all areas including how she represents herself. Kelly struggles a bit because she is unfamiliar with how some cultures lack exposure to the information she takes for granted, that everyone should  know a-z without realizing the alphabet some use is entirely different to begin with so the expectation is wrong as well. Kat will improve in all areas I believe. Doesn't mean Kat is acceptable in all areas, but she will earnestly try. She is quick to admit shortcomings as well and not excuse them. She never whines why she didn't or can't. She works towards without false promise. That, I like.

[IzzyEnd]

17 hours ago, GeorgiaPeach11 said:

She is one of my fav's and who ever decided she needed a new hair cut was right on point! There were too many long hair brunettes. I also love her body type, it's healthy and gorgeous. 

I agree so much. Her hair always bothered me. She looks more unique now and short hair makes you notice her face more. She doesn't meld into Molly etc. She does seem stronger this year and happy.

[Pj3422]

12 hours ago, Muckypup61 said:

 Fun little article. https://people.com/style/the-history-of-the-dallas-cowboys-cheerleaders-look/

Thanks for posting that! Although it looks like there’s no end in sight for the “long and layered” hair.

[SmpIsimon]

I wonder if VK had messed up video training if she'd have been cut????  I think we all know the answer.

[PhillyFan]

4 hours ago, ByTor said:

Regarding Kashara and her "honesty" that gets her in trouble.  Is she "honest" or is she one of those people who ramble on with no filter and excuse it as "Hey, just being honest!"?

She doesn’t really say anything over the top or offensive though, so I’m going to go with just honest. Believe me, I know and loathe the type you’re talking about, I know several!

[dotdot 37]

was VK part of Media training why was she not shown I think every time she talkes she has been coached. and with media training they would have had to stop the taping and go over what she was going to say

[Jennv]

2 hours ago, PattiD4DCC said:

You let the "kat out of the bag" Julia and that's a gotcha moment for TPTB. Sadly, we can never unhear the content of what she said, and she is now living with the consequences, but honestly, why do they call it media "training" when it really seems to be media sink or swim. 

While I agree Julia should have known better, all the training seems to be after the fact. Such a shame, she would have been great on this year's team. 

Exactly. It isn’t media training. It’s a media test. 

[Jennv]

This shit is just so phony it makes me ill. Tptb all know these girls want to do bigger and better things, but God forbid they actually say they do, or they are immediately cut. For God’s sake, they bring Rycroft on every year to capitalize off her fame from DWTS and Bachelor, but if she had said during training camp that she was hoping to use this experience to get on the Bachelor they would off cut her instantly. No doubt told her not to let the door hit her in ass on the way out as well. 

[parrotfeathers]

13 minutes ago, Jennv said:

but if she had said during training camp that she was hoping to use this experience to get on the Bachelor they would off cut her instantly. No doubt told her not to let the door hit her in ass on the way out as well. 

I didn't think of this comment until I read what you said.  Now I remember that most of them say they have dreamed of being a DCC their entire lives.  Julia left that out of her comments and sort of made it clear it really wasn't her dream, just a stepping stone.  

I think Chelsea even said she would be there "forever?"   Little did she know they would catch on to her BS.

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, PhillyFan said:

I know and loathe the type you’re talking about, I know several!

"I'm just keeping it real"..."I'm only saying what everybody's thinking"...UGH hate it!!!

[PhillyFan]

Just now, ByTor said:

"I'm just keeping it real"..."I'm only saying what everybody's thinking"...UGH hate it!!!

Or “speak my mind” 😝

[ByTor]

31 minutes ago, Jennv said:

Tptb all know these girls want to do bigger and better things, but God forbid they actually say they do, or they are immediately cut.

It's one thing to want to do bigger and better things, but saying "I'm using this opportunity to do bigger and better things" is the issue here.

[Opine]

51 minutes ago, Jennv said:

Exactly. It isn’t media training. It’s a media test. 

And that is such a shame.  If you had pointed out the issues to Me-too Taylor and Julia and others, they would be the most likely to be very careful and very on their toes and very well prepared for the future!

[dccfan321]

There’s a difference between, “I am not exactly sure what i want to do after DCC, but I hope to take the skills such as professionalism, grace, etc. into my next chapter after DCC” vs “I am doing DCC because I want to use the name and brand to get me to my next career step”. Because the latter shows that you are liable to jump ship the moment that opportunity for fame comes. Also, if her background is in journalism, she should have known how to answer this question better.

[ElenaFR]

Definitely not training. Would be training if given a presentation and some possible talking points. 

As for canned answers, Julia should know that you cannot voice having greater aspirations other than wanting to be a DCC. Sort of like wanting World Peace in Pageants. You have to go through the motions. 

[ColdToes]

It would be nice if they got media training provided, but they could use the Google machine to look up media training basics easily. This is always a part of the process, and they must know people get cut for it every year. I don't have a lot of sympathy for a major fail on this one. It takes about 20 minutes to google the basics and only a bit longer to ask your boot buddy about DCC specific pitfalls to avoid.

[SmpIsimon]

Don't be fooled, Kelli cuts the girls she wants to cut and keeps the girls she wants to keep.  Period.

She is merely looking for things to justify making the decisions she already wants to make.  Me-too Taylor and Julia would have been cut for other (manufactured) reasons even if they'd passed the media test with flying colors.

[lah715]

2 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

I wonder if VK had messed up video training if she'd have been cut????  I think we all know the answer.

She did mess up last year ... her answer to almost everything was "I have no words" you can tell by the look on Kelli's face she was not happy could see the immaturity showing. Weight and immaturity is what got her cut ...

[chabelisaywow]

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Don't be fooled, Kelli cuts the girls she wants to cut and keeps the girls she wants to keep.  Period.

She is merely looking for things to justify making the decisions she already wants to make.  Me-too Taylor and Julia would have been cut for other (manufactured) reasons even if they'd passed the media test with flying colors.

Yup... so either we will see no VK coverage of or "what is your favorite color, Victoria?"

ok.. maybe... "how did you survive the meanies being mean to you?"

Victoria being coached for media day..

[SanDiegoGal]

32 minutes ago, SmpIsimon said:

Don't be fooled, Kelli cuts the girls she wants to cut and keeps the girls she wants to keep.  Period.

She is merely looking for things to justify making the decisions she already wants to make.  Me-too Taylor and Julia would have been cut for other (manufactured) reasons even if they'd passed the media test with flying colors.

Agreed! And that is why I am updating Conspiracy Theory #812 to #813...

Conspiracy Theory #813 about the DCC: 

1. Lisa and Julia do not get along since their time on the Mavs because not all girls on every team want to be each other's bridesmaids.

2. Lisa attaches her lips to VK's hind parts on the first day of training camp. She's a smart cookie, and she knows who holds the power on making the team.

3. Lisa casually drops falsified intel about Julia to VK. Something about Julia giving a weather report that a "beautiful storm" is about to turn ugly.

4. VK blabs to Haley Anderson (Charlotte's daughter) because they are besties who normally drink milkshakes together, but have to chit-chat endlessly to keep VK's mouth otherwise occupied until the team is announced.

5. Haley tells Mommy Charlotte about Cruella De Ville, er Julia.

6. Charlotte directs Kelli to cut Julia. Kelli is relieved because she just doesn't know who to cut, since "this year's candidates are the strongest group that we've ever had!"

7. Kelli looks for a credible mishap to cut Julia. She can't find one. Julia's dancing is superb. So she arranges for Person X to tell Julia how much Kelli loves hearing that the DCC has propelled young women into amazing career opportunities. Julia sets aside her IQ for the moment, decides to capitalize on that information in media training, and well... Julia gets axed.

8. The entire veteran DCC population goes to IHOP to commiserate with Julia because they love her and have no idea how this happened. They wonder if a milkshake is involved.

9. Lisa privately celebrates her victory. She's accomplished a lot. Advanced Calculus, Biomedical Engineering, and dancing next to Victoria Kalina without getting an elbow to the eye.

10. DCC fans around the globe shake their heads upon hearing Julia didn't make the team. Unable to see any logic in the decision, they declare, "There are no words."

Version #814 coming soon to a DCC board near you...

[KatieC]

2 hours ago, Jennv said:

This shit is just so phony it makes me ill. Tptb all know these girls want to do bigger and better things, but God forbid they actually say they do, or they are immediately cut. For God’s sake, they bring Rycroft on every year to capitalize off her fame from DWTS and Bachelor, but if she had said during training camp that she was hoping to use this experience to get on the Bachelor they would off cut her instantly. No doubt told her not to let the door hit her in ass on the way out as well. 

The way Julia said it was just so bad though. It’s fine to be ambitious and use your life experiences as you move to other opportunities, you just don’t say you want the job for your resume when you are working to get said job. It sounds very selfish and most people would have know better than to put it that way, especially those with experience working in the media. 

Edited October 3, 2019 by KatieC

[Jess14]

1 hour ago, ByTor said:

It's one thing to want to do bigger and better things, but saying "I'm using this opportunity to do bigger and better things" is the issue here.

Right. I’m quick to criticize Kelli and the DCCs over antiquated practices, but this is just basic interview stuff.

Even if you’re interviewing for a summer internship, which a is by nature, a temporary position and a “stepping stone”, you’re probably not going to get the internship if you say that you plan to use the internship to build your grad school resume. That may well be true - your end goal may be grad school in a competitive program (and there is nothing wrong with that), but you can’t expect the company to invest money in you for an internship if you make it sound like that you’re just using it to further your career along. Keep that to yourself! 

[dreamcatcher]

46 minutes ago, lah715 said:

She did mess up last year ... her answer to almost everything was "I have no words" you can tell by the look on Kelli's face she was not happy could see the immaturity showing. Weight and immaturity is what got her cut ...

Yeah, Kelli’s response to that disaster was “we need to help her find her words”. ????? Name one girl who has ever gotten such a response instead of a omg she’s such a liability, no way she can chat up a president like all dccs do all the time!!!!

[TB12]

3 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

I wonder if VK had messed up video training if she'd have been cut????  I think we all know the answer.

Assume this is a rhetorical question... 🙂

[ATLGirl]

😱That was painful to watch. 😱 Julia, you signed your own “this is your last night” marching papers with that response. Ask “Me Too” Taylor. She can relate.

Part of me wishes Scott had hit them up with a weather-related question since he’s Mr. Meteorologist.😆

I guess Kat had “too” many words. But at least she knew Jason Whitten was playing again and didn’t mess up that one (although adding “baby” did not help). Remember Zoe thinking Tom Landry was still alive?

[Donna S]

13 hours ago, Jennv said:

It’s super obnoxious that K and C get so offended by anyone who dares to think bigger than DCC. They want these girls to believe that DCC is the greatest achievement of their life, and it’s all downhill from there. Selfish and unrealistic, to the point of being downright dumb. 

Well, anyone that goes on a job interview should NEVER EVER say I want this job to "build my resume".  As someone already in broadcast journalism, she should already know this.  No interviewer wants to hear that a job is only something to build a resume.  It is really not selfish and unrealistic for an employer to want a prospective employee to really want a job for itself and not as a stepping stone, even though that may be exactly what it is.  You have to talk the talk to get the job.

[Omeletsmom]

5 hours ago, PhillyFan said:

Judy’s hair 😍😍😍

I have such hair envy!  It's still gorgeous.

[Cowboysfan16]

13 hours ago, IrishJig said:

I hate two things about this Julia situation.

1. Every other pro cheerleading team sells the experience as a stepping stone to bigger opportunities.  Heck, they are *proud* when their women achieve great things afterwards.  I know for a fact that a few even out right say ‘this can lead to many opportunities down the road’ at their auditions.  Unfortunately Julia was in training camp with the one team that doesn’t want to invest in its members.

2.  It is sooooooooo misogynistic to think women shouldn’t be ambitious. It just drips with misogyny.  This has nothing to do with building the DCC brand, and everything to do with misogyny.

And no one, well maybe with the exception of VK, will make a 30 year career out of it.

I’m sad for Julia. 

[KatieC]

31 minutes ago, Donna S said:

Well, anyone that goes on a job interview should NEVER EVER say I want this job to "build my resume".  As someone already in broadcast journalism, she should already know this.  No interviewer wants to hear that a job is only something to build a resume.  It is really not selfish and unrealistic for an employer to want a prospective employee to really want a job for itself and not as a stepping stone, even though that may be exactly what it is.  You have to talk the talk to get the job.

That is correct. It’s what you bring to the job not what the job does for you. 

And you can’t tell me that anyone who is stupid enough to say what Julia said would not be a huge media risk regarding other things she might be asked as a DCC. And another thing you can’t tell me she hasn’t had lots of media TRAINING with the degree she has.    

https://www.linkedin.com/in/julia-fife-328ab9105

Edited October 3, 2019 by KatieC

[Pj3422]

2 hours ago, ByTor said:

"I'm just keeping it real"..."I'm only saying what everybody's thinking"...UGH hate it!!!

Agreed! Enough with keeping it real — I’d rather keep it civil.

[DCC.Style.fan]

19 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I think her picture should be up instead of Abigail's in the tour.

When Nicole came back to do the Alumni segment last year, I thought she looked the most beautiful I have ever seen her!

[Evamae]

6 hours ago, SmpIsimon said:

I wonder if VK had messed up video training if she'd have been cut????  I think we all know the answer.

I am confused.  Does TK work for the Cowboys? Or did she used to?  I know she was a Cheerleader way back when..... What is her affiliation with the Cowboys year to date?