2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[Fwcowboysfan]

1 hour ago, Jennv said:

Only if Maddie retires 

I hope she stays. 😀

Edited September 15, 2019 by Fwcowboysfan

[Pau84]

33 minutes ago, kalibean said:

Anyone else for point(s) please! 

Jalyn for point ofcourse!

#teamjalyn

[MyFavShows]

On 9/14/2019 at 12:36 PM, MrsEVH said:

I remember that choreographer Bree calling out Angela when she didn't make SG.

That choreographer was full of herself and a bitch.  One of my least favorite people they’ve ever had on the show along w/ the nutritionist who said the stuff about diet soda causing cellulite.

I don’t think they should announce show group at the beginning of a practice like that either.  If they don’t want to do it during off hours so everyone can process without being on the spot, at least wait till the very end.   Oh, and a compassionate leader who wanted to avoid any drama/disruption would talk to someone in Jaylen’s situation ahead of time, along w/ giving the reasons for decision, so she wasn’t blindsided in front of everyone.   But cause this is a reality show drama is almost encouraged, no way they’d ever do that 

Edited September 15, 2019 by MyFavShows

[DAthene]

16 hours ago, Tootie said:

One thing that stuck out to me was when Kelli said this--and I quote: "Thank you guys for your time and expertise. We really appreciate your professional lenses.  We'll go back and work through some of the strengths that we know some of these ladies bring to the table and announce this tomorrow."

IIRC, any other time the Show Group deliberations were shown, they seemed to imply that they knew who the final group was that night... they didn't always announce it that night, but they knew who it was and didn't have to "go back and work" it out!

She did that last year -- and I remember that being jarring to me as well.  To me this year, that means we are going to ignore your recommendations on Jalyn (or at least I am).

I just watched the episode and I'm seething.  To be honest, this is the first year I am not glued in front of the tv to watch the episode as it is airing; knowing how things went down this year has left me very soured on Kelli and her treatment of the DCCs.   A rant is following, so please just skip this post if you don't want me to bore you.

I don't hate VK -- I don't know her.  But I hate the toxicity she has created around DCC.  Yes, she looks better.  She dances the style better.  But to me she will never be a positive member of the "sisterhood" that DCC asserts itself to have.  After last night, I put a lot of credence into what some of those insiders were saying this past summer -- and I do believe VK remains a tattletale and a sinister locker room teammate.  I don't have dance experience, so maybe somebody who does can let me know if I'm way off on this, but to me her leaps across the floor still demonstrated she cannot hold her positions correctly.   Caroline's and Jalyn's turns and leaps appeared more controlled...like they weren't falling into another person's lines.  Has she made improvements from last year, yes; but is she the best rookie candidate, hell no.  And Kelli shooting daggers at everyone who doesn't drink the kool aid is by far the most telling thing about her in my opinion (and the best support to those summer insiders IMHO).

Now onto the show group fiasco.  The way Kelli treated Jalyn was despicable.  She was as harsh and stern with her as she was with Holli -- and that girl violated one of the most touted contractual rules of DCC.  It was clear that there was a lot more behind that moment.  She shot daggers when the guests commented on her being good; she was all over the fact she just needed to step out a moment.  And rather than say to her during the meeting that she was missing something (last year's fire; she was outdanced; she was a little clunkier -- any one of the gazillion overused cliches she employs to be vague about a girl's performance), she basically confirmed she is in danger of losing her "valuable" uniform and that she questions if Jalyn has the passion and fire to keep going.  I give Jalyn a lot of credit to handle that meeting with a smile on her face.  THAT shows the professionalism that Kelli was clearly lacking.  And for Judy to sit there while one of her strongest dancers was cut from show group and then ripped apart? I have lost all respect for her as well.   

As a teacher, I have to give disappointing news to kids all the time.  They fail a test; they don't make it into an honor society; they didn't get the part they wanted in the show.  And we make sure we do that at a time when they will then HAVE the time to emotionally process it.  I wonder if Kelli was hoping that Jalyn said something or did something JUST a bit further so that she could have cut her -- for something that CLEARLY happened out of practice.  

And Kat & Meredith?  They are pretty.  I don't think either of them is so unbelievably beautiful that they HAD to have a spot on this squad -- but the fact that both of them CANNOT dance and are on the squad? Seriously?!?!   Kelli latched onto them as favorites and they seemingly cannot do any wrong.  

Kashara - good for you selecting a second year point over those who do not "have it".  Maddy and Amy are good, but they are not point.   

It's time to retire, Kelli.  You are too emotional and you have lost your objective lens to determine how to make (as you so often put it) the "right squad" with the "right people".  You have allowed a festering situation to turn into a cesspool, even among some fans.  

I will continue to binge watch earlier seasons -- but I don't think I'm watching the rest of this one.  

[Jennv]

At this point, I’m considering getting a voodoo doll of Victoria and rubbing lard on its abs, thighs, and butt. #jalynwasrobbed

[healthnut]

Is there a list of show group members here somewhere? I hate to go through all the spoiler pages, I’m trying to be as spoiler free as possible. 

[Jessinvirginia]

On 9/14/2019 at 2:46 PM, ATLGirl said:

I haven't watched the episode yet because I was visiting my best friend who was in town last night but I'm afraid if I do watch it, I'll break the TV by throwing something at it when Kelli starts in on Jaylyn. It's taking everything I have not to tweet something on Kelli's account stating I know who was being toxic in that meeting and it wasn't Jaylyn.

I echo what CrazyinAlabama said. Jaylyn needs to keep her head down, finish her year and vamoose. There's no way Kelli will keep her another season anyway and Charlotte will likely chime in with talk of "She needs to be GREAT!". Who wants to stick around for that nightmare when they are still getting paid peanuts?

Same. I’ve been in, “Don’t tweet Kelli. Don’t tweet Kelli.” Mode since the episode aired. 😡

[MyFavShows]

Okay.  Maybe I will regret asking this, but why are people implying VK is to blame for Jayln not making SG?  What allegedly happened?  Is there a page # in this thread where it’s first discussed?

[Jennv]

3 minutes ago, MyFavShows said:

Okay.  Maybe I will regret asking this, but why are people implying VK is to blame for Jayln not making SG?  What allegedly happened?  Is there a page # in this thread where it’s first discussed?

There was a screenshot of a list in Judy’s hand of everyone who made show group, with Jalyn’s name on the list, lined through, with Victoria written over it. Also way back on the board, when showgroup auditions took place in real time, an insider posted that Jalyn was cut from showgroup as punishment for upsetting Victoria 

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

15 minutes ago, healthnut said:

Is there a list of show group members here somewhere? I hate to go through all the spoiler pages, I’m trying to be as spoiler free as possible. 

[Amandared]

Wasn’t Christina the lowest scoring vet after auditions and actually underneath the 36? Do you think that’s why she’s in the office? Although it seems late in the game for that kind of talk 

[SuzySmith]

2 hours ago, Isolabella said:

I hate to say it, but after watching this week's episode, I think Rachel W. will be the point next year. 😱 She has improved so much from last season (watch her in the hip hop halftime when she's in the second row of the pyramid behind Maddie). There are so many talented 2nd years who would absolutely kill it at point (Caroline and Bridget come to mind) but you know how Kelli loves the pretty girls and she's always had a giant girl crush on Rachel W.

Don't get me wrong! I'm not saying I want her at point. But after watching the montage of pictures they took of Rachel during show group auditions, I was like ohhhh shit it's gonna be her next year.

Um, aren't you meaning to say that VK will be point next year?  Really - who else could possibly be point but her for the remaining years of her (presumably long) DCC tenure?

😝

Edited September 15, 2019 by SuzySmith

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

3 minutes ago, SuzySmith said:

Um, aren't you meaning to say that VK will be point next year?  Really - who else could possibly be point but her for the remaining years of her (presumably long) DCC tenure?

Vonceil holds the record with 8 years...  and VK is only 19, so... it's not looking very good!😭

[kalibean]

We have mixed reviews about Maddie here, but the FB posters seem to love her to the point of obsession. The Facebook comments are always so interesting to me, when they aren’t dirty creepers. 

Spent the weekend with my mom, who loves that I follow these boards and always asks me for the gossip. She’s a casual viewer who danced for 15++ years and thinks VK is fabulous. (I personally like VK’s looks and dance style just fine but think she shouldn’t have made SG.) She also loved Kat “even though she doesn’t quite get it yet. Please tell me she made the team! And did she find a good place to live??” I had to fill her in on why I was so mad about Jalyn and now she’s mad too. 

😂😂😂

[rhofmovalley]

5 minutes ago, Tootie said:

Vonceil holds the record with 8 years...  and VK is only 19, so... it's not looking very good!😭

Christina is 30.  So, we could potentially have Victoria for 11 years.

If she were a child I could say it's not her fault she's being given preferential treatment.  But IF the rumors are true and she's using Kelli's deep affection for her to her own advantage, well, that's wrong.  Not to say others don't do so in other professions (someone at my company has a senior manager who really likes her, hence she's received a $10k bonus TWICE over the past two years), but it doesn't serve to endear her to others.

[Lolfordays]

2 hours ago, Isolabella said:

I hate to say it, but after watching this week's episode, I think Rachel W. will be the point next year. 😱 She has improved so much from last season (watch her in the hip hop halftime when she's in the second row of the pyramid behind Maddie). There are so many talented 2nd years who would absolutely kill it at point (Caroline and Bridget come to mind) but you know how Kelli loves the pretty girls and she's always had a giant girl crush on Rachel W.

Don't get me wrong! I'm not saying I want her at point. But after watching the montage of pictures they took of Rachel during show group auditions, I was like ohhhh shit it's gonna be her next year.

Rachel W would be a huge hit with the Joneses and Cowboys fans.

That is not a compliment to the Joneses nor  Cowboys fans.

[Lily80]

4 hours ago, rhofmovalley said:

Now Show Group, that should be about dance technique but I'm not even sure where Show Group performs or if the audience they perform in front of will care about their technique or if they just expect to see pretty girls dancing.

I think it's both. From past Show Group performances we've seen on the show, they do big corporate events, special events for the Cowboys, and other paid performances. I think the main reason they need to be the best dancers on the team is because they have to adapt quickly to last-minute changes and/or stage space.

[Pasha Kitty]

16 hours ago, Bellisima08 said:

I did enjoy seeing KaShara again. She was so bubbly & her energy seemed to spread through the studio. A true breath of fresh air. I did think it was interesting that she picked Caroline for point but I thought she was fair & honest and had good reasons about why. I don't get why K&J disregarded her so that they could have two points. Otherwise it was great to see her. If there's a fan vote for who gets Kelli's job when she retires, KaShara gets my vote!

I agree!  I miss seeing KaShara - she brought life to the squad and she's gorgeous.  The two longtime vets whom the camera seems to often zoom in on, Amy and Maddie, just don't have the looks.  Nothing exciting about them!  Sorry- it's my humble opinion.   Lastly, I do agree with her opinion of Caroline as the point.

[go4luca]

37 minutes ago, kalibean said:

We have mixed reviews about Maddie here, but the FB posters seem to love her to the point of obsession. 

The FB group is a different contingent.  If you consider the demographic of the FB commenters, it makes more sense.  Before someone asks, check out a few of commenter's profiles.  You should be able to figure it out.

[PrincessLeia]

Jayln needed a damn minute to collect herself and grieve. Geez Kelli. Jaylyn has never been a favorite of mine, but that was some big ole dose of bullshit right there. I wonder if Jaylyn wanted to tell her to f*ck off. I sure did. I felt so freaking bad for her during that office visit. 

Edited September 15, 2019 by PrincessLeia

[hannahbanana]

3 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

As much as she says it was about how the judges voted, we've also seen Kelli (and to a degree Judy and Charlotte) override or ignore that voting if it doesn't go the way she wants it to.

This is it. Doesn't matter how many "judges" they bring in, the only vote that truly counts in the end is Kelli's (and maybe Charlotte's if she wants to push it).

[go4luca]

4 hours ago, KnyghtRyder said:

If you would like to go back in time, I think the SG tryouts start around page 118-ish in real time. The explanation regarding the Victoria/Jalyn situation is on 124. (I went back to reread after watching this episode).  

nevermind

Edited September 16, 2019 by go4luca

[jlc]

1 hour ago, SuzySmith said:

Um, aren't you meaning to say that VK will be point next year?  Really - who else could possibly be point but her for the remaining years of her (presumably long) DCC tenure?

😝

You must be my soul sister!!! That sarcasm was priceless!!! Thank you and love you sista!!!☺☺☺❤❤

[go4luca]

Just now, KnyghtRyder said:

Agreed. But smoke...fire...not too difficult to believe there’s something there (for me at least)...

Fair enough.   She's not a fav of mine, but I think much of the Vic stuff on this board gets majorly exaggerated.

[Muckypup61]

Where is Kristin? I haven't seen hide-nor-hair of her in at least the last, two episodes!

Edited September 15, 2019 by Muckypup61

[ElenaFR]

4 minutes ago, Muckypup61 said:

Where's is Kristin? I haven't seen hide-nor-hair of her in at least the last, two episodes!

Now she is someone I have not noticed. 

[adukesantana]

Here's my two cents. I for one cannot take fakeness or insincerity (maybe it's the Scorpio in me) so last season and more so this season has me aggravated.

I reluctantly watched the whole of season 13 because I knew that Victoria was getting. Now don't get me wrong I wasn't cheering for the fact that her dreams would be crushed but that her, Charlotte and Kelli's BS would finally be off my screen. 

The blatant BS that they were dishing out weekly was nauseating, and the intimidation of other judges annoying (that one's for you Scott the Weatherman). But lo and behold BS part deaux is now Season 14.

Is anyone surprised by Kelli's snarkiness?? She has been mean from the start. The fact that you have a "favorite " with an obvious overbite but nastily speak about Kylee's ( African American young lady now a DSIG)teeth and Margaret ( a Hispanic young woman).

I get that Colbee wasn't everyone's favorite but she did make it as far as the finals because the judges decided to advance her. Why be nasty because she won the fan vote because you, Kelli, didn't like her?? And then proceed to make snarky on camera comments about her??? Oh and cutting off Taylor's hair, and have it looking like a cross between a bowl cut and mullet and expected her to LOVE IT 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Now this season we are now being subjected to the Anna Pavlova of the DCC - THE BEST THAT EVER LIVED!! I haven't watched the last two episodes, and quite frankly I don't know if I'm going to finish the season but from the snippets I have seen it's like everyone is fighting for their jobs. Melissa " I was a mediocre DCC but got dumped on a popular "dating" show and then won a reality dance competition " Rycroft nauseatingly heaping more BS on top of the BS we have been subjected too. And then reign one of my favorite DCCs Jacie into the mix annoyed me.

This redemption tour that they are embarking on has done nothing but annoy A LOT of people. Also on the subject of Kat....now granted I was rooting for her from the start because I thought she was talented....but to keep her as an alternate and "diversity" is crap. You could have had diversity if Kaitlin (LSU girl) had made it to Training Camp and made the team. She could actually kick and dance but I digress.

Meredith seems to be the pet project this year. Add her to Loni, Jordan Chanley, Morgan, Emily Clark et tal. I so over her "I'm sooooo overwhelmed, but I know I'm Kelli's girl crush so I'll go cry in a corner" routine.

They treated Jalyn like 💩💩. Jalyn leave and take your talents elsewhere or go teach another team. THEY DON'T DESERVE YOU!!! 

Kelli nobody is buying or eating the BS you're dishing. You talk about a sisterhood but you were entrusted to be the gatekeeper, and you fumbled the keys. From the time Tina was invited on and made snarky comments about some TCC and was NEVER checked I knew that was Kelli's personality. Birds of a feather flock together...

Not sure I'll be watching the rest of the season because I already know my girl Chandi made it, so........

[DAthene]

9 minutes ago, adukesantana said:

Here's my two cents. I for one cannot take fakeness or insincerity (maybe it's the Scorpio in me) so last season and more so this season has me aggravated.

I reluctantly watched the whole of season 13 because I knew that Victoria was getting. Now don't get me wrong I wasn't cheering for the fact that her dreams would be crushed but that her, Charlotte and Kelli's BS would finally be off my screen. 

The blatant BS that they were dishing out weekly was nauseating, and the intimidation of other judges annoying (that one's for you Scott the Weatherman). But lo and behold BS part deaux is now Season 14.

Is anyone surprised by Kelli's snarkiness?? She has been mean from the start. The fact that you have a "favorite " with an obvious overbite but nastily speak about Kylee's ( African American young lady now a DSIG)teeth and Margaret ( a Hispanic young woman).

I get that Colbee wasn't everyone's favorite but she did make it as far as the finals because the judges decided to advance her. Why be nasty because she won the fan vote because you, Kelli, didn't like her?? And then proceed to make snarky on camera comments about her??? Oh and cutting off Taylor's hair, and have it looking like a cross between a bowl cut and mullet and expected her to LOVE IT 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

Now this season we are now being subjected to the Anna Pavlova of the DCC - THE BEST THAT EVER LIVED!! I haven't watched the last two episodes, and quite frankly I don't know if I'm going to finish the season but from the snippets I have seen it's like everyone is fighting for their jobs. Melissa " I was a mediocre DCC but got dumped on a popular "dating" show and then won a reality dance competition " Rycroft nauseatingly heaping more BS on top of the BS we have been subjected too. And then reign one of my favorite DCCs Jacie into the mix annoyed me.

This redemption tour that they are embarking on has done nothing but annoy A LOT of people. Also on the subject of Kat....now granted I was rooting for her from the start because I thought she was talented....but to keep her as an alternate and "diversity" is crap. You could have had diversity if Kaitlin (LSU girl) had made it to Training Camp and made the team. She could actually kick and dance but I digress.

Meredith seems to be the pet project this year. Add her to Loni, Jordan Chanley, Morgan, Emily Clark et tal. I so over her "I'm sooooo overwhelmed, but I know I'm Kelli's girl crush so I'll go cry in a corner" routine.

They treated Jalyn like 💩💩. Jalyn leave and take your talents elsewhere or go teach another team. THEY DON'T DESERVE YOU!!! 

Kelli nobody is buying or eating the BS you're dishing. You talk about a sisterhood but you were entrusted to be the gatekeeper, and you fumbled the keys. From the time Tina was invited on and made snarky comments about some TCC and was NEVER checked I knew that was Kelli's personality. Birds of a feather flock together...

Not sure I'll be watching the rest of the season because I already know my girl Chandi made it, so........

Thank you for expressing my feelings far more eloquently than I did!

[patti0855]

3 hours ago, dreamcatcher said:

Please make Maddie retire. I wouldn’t mind her staying for all 5 years if she wasn’t always in the spotlight. She doesn’t look good as point, she doesn’t seem confident as a leader, she isn’t strong in interviews, just stop promoting her please. And I can’t stand her trying to do sexy/flirty faces this year (she does that in EVERY SINGLE clip i’ve seen of her). I feel like a pervert looking at this kid playing dress up.

Believe me when I say, the moment she comes back to Utah, if she does, she'll be a nobody. No one will care what she did in Dallas. They don't give two sheets about anyone who ever made "cheerleader", in fact I would guess no one does except maybe Dallas people.

[SanDiegoGal]

1 hour ago, Lily80 said:

I think it's both. From past Show Group performances we've seen on the show, they do big corporate events, special events for the Cowboys, and other paid performances. I think the main reason they need to be the best dancers on the team is because they have to adapt quickly to last-minute changes and/or stage space.

If adapting to smaller stage space is a factor for SG, then they are in a heap of trouble this year. 

[Reveala]

On 9/14/2019 at 4:49 PM, kerrieway said:

Also braids and twists would be a no, that much spinning and kicking could really hurt someone in the kickline, the hair flip alone with braids could slap someone hard in the eye. And lets not forget your scalp health, that yanking could cause traction alopecia.  

I don't think the women stand close enough to each other to worry about swinging hair of any type hitting them. The "problem" with locs/braids is with corporate white folks who feel it's also a political statement. My white, male bosses hated my braids when I wore them, but used euphemisms to say so: "You look so much more beautiful with your hair 'the other way'"

  In the earliest years of DCC, Black women danced in short naturals (Afro), but there was a different DCC director, and different team owner. Somehow they recognized then that Black female representation was very important. Recently, some white DCC have danced with curls as tight as Cersten' s and Jenna. 

Weaves and especially wigs are a convenient, safer hair alternative for 4 months of dancing. 

[Dnst1973]

3 hours ago, DAthene said:

She did that last year -- and I remember that being jarring to me as well.  To me this year, that means we are going to ignore your recommendations on Jalyn (or at least I am).

I just watched the episode and I'm seething.  To be honest, this is the first year I am not glued in front of the tv to watch the episode as it is airing; knowing how things went down this year has left me very soured on Kelli and her treatment of the DCCs.   A rant is following, so please just skip this post if you don't want me to bore you.

I don't hate VK -- I don't know her.  But I hate the toxicity she has created around DCC.  Yes, she looks better.  She dances the style better.  But to me she will never be a positive member of the "sisterhood" that DCC asserts itself to have.  After last night, I put a lot of credence into what some of those insiders were saying this past summer -- and I do believe VK remains a tattletale and a sinister locker room teammate.  I don't have dance experience, so maybe somebody who does can let me know if I'm way off on this, but to me her leaps across the floor still demonstrated she cannot hold her positions correctly.   Caroline's and Jalyn's turns and leaps appeared more controlled...like they weren't falling into another person's lines.  Has she made improvements from last year, yes; but is she the best rookie candidate, hell no.  And Kelli shooting daggers at everyone who doesn't drink the kool aid is by far the most telling thing about her in my opinion (and the best support to those summer insiders IMHO).

Now onto the show group fiasco.  The way Kelli treated Jalyn was despicable.  She was as harsh and stern with her as she was with Holli -- and that girl violated one of the most touted contractual rules of DCC.  It was clear that there was a lot more behind that moment.  She shot daggers when the guests commented on her being good; she was all over the fact she just needed to step out a moment.  And rather than say to her during the meeting that she was missing something (last year's fire; she was outdanced; she was a little clunkier -- any one of the gazillion overused cliches she employs to be vague about a girl's performance), she basically confirmed she is in danger of losing her "valuable" uniform and that she questions if Jalyn has the passion and fire to keep going.  I give Jalyn a lot of credit to handle that meeting with a smile on her face.  THAT shows the professionalism that Kelli was clearly lacking.  And for Judy to sit there while one of her strongest dancers was cut from show group and then ripped apart? I have lost all respect for her as well.   

As a teacher, I have to give disappointing news to kids all the time.  They fail a test; they don't make it into an honor society; they didn't get the part they wanted in the show.  And we make sure we do that at a time when they will then HAVE the time to emotionally process it.  I wonder if Kelli was hoping that Jalyn said something or did something JUST a bit further so that she could have cut her -- for something that CLEARLY happened out of practice.  

And Kat & Meredith?  They are pretty.  I don't think either of them is so unbelievably beautiful that they HAD to have a spot on this squad -- but the fact that both of them CANNOT dance and are on the squad? Seriously?!?!   Kelli latched onto them as favorites and they seemingly cannot do any wrong.  

Kashara - good for you selecting a second year point over those who do not "have it".  Maddy and Amy are good, but they are not point.   

It's time to retire, Kelli.  You are too emotional and you have lost your objective lens to determine how to make (as you so often put it) the "right squad" with the "right people".  You have allowed a festering situation to turn into a cesspool, even among some fans.  

I will continue to binge watch earlier seasons -- but I don't think I'm watching the rest of this one.  

I think Kelli was looking for a reason to cut her. She was like a buzzard stalking prey waiting for weakness. Sickening! 

And Jalyn was the sweet humble girl we know. I have so much more respect for her after that awkward AF office visit. 

[Jess14]

1 hour ago, KnyghtRyder said:

Agreed. But smoke...fire...not too difficult to believe there’s something there (for me at least)...

Yeah, same. I blow past a lot of the VK rumors, and I never pay much attention to the “so and so is a mean girl” stuff - that could just be an opinion, but this....there’s something else there underlying Jalyn’s cut from show group. That much is clear. I don’t know if the VK stuff is true, but there’s definitely not any disciplinary violation on Jalyn’s part or else that would’ve been stated. The whole ‘Savannah wants it so bad but is still supportive” was clearly an effort to make Jalyn look bad, and they had Kelli calling her toxic and unprofessional in the episode. The fact that Jalyn didn’t come off looking bad isn’t for lack of effort. There was just no material.

For reference, a friend who is a casual watcher (just watches for fun and isnt usually interested in behind the scenes stuff), texted me and was like “WTF! did I miss something? Why is Kelli being so mean? There’s gotta be a backstory!” It was obvious that something is amiss. 

[Jennv]

4 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Yeah, same. I blow past a lot of the VK rumors, and I never pay much attention to the “so and so is a mean girl” stuff - that could just be an opinion, but this....there’s something else there underlying Jalyn’s cut from show group. That much is clear. I don’t know if the VK stuff is true, but there’s definitely not any disciplinary violation on Jalyn’s part or else that would’ve been stated. The whole ‘Savannah wants it so bad but is still supportive” was clearly an effort to make Jalyn look bad, and they had Kelli calling her toxic and unprofessional in the episode. The fact that Jalyn didn’t come off looking bad isn’t for lack of effort. There was just no material.

For reference, a friend who is a casual watcher (just watches for fun and isnt usually interested in behind the scenes stuff), texted me and was like “WTF! did I miss something? Why is Kelli being so mean? There’s gotta be a backstory!” It was obvious that something is amiss. 

My 86 year old mother watched it with me. 1st episode she ever saw. Her comment was “yes ma’am, Jesus, wouldn’t it be funny if she said fuck you instead? You know that’s what she wants to say”

[dreamcatcher]

16 minutes ago, Jennv said:

My 86 year old mother watched it with me. 1st episode she ever saw. Her comment was “yes ma’am, Jesus, wouldn’t it be funny if she said fuck you instead? You know that’s what she wants to say”

Oh, I live for the day one of them finally snaps and I hope it’s on camera.

[Blndee6]

That office scene with Jalyn was sickening. The gall of Kelli to suggest that Jalyn was unprofessional when Kelli herself is the walking epitome of unprofessionalism. She’s not not just a passive aggressive, nepotism/favoritism-embracing hypocrite; she’s also vindictive. After the SG announcement she zeroed right in on Jalyn, smugly waiting to see J’s reaction and wasting no time bashing her for it. Kelli enjoys using her authority to punish those whom she has decided deserve it, including having the girls grovel/apologize for their ‘sins.’ Kelli is the worst type of manager there is. Not watching this show anymore.

Edited September 15, 2019 by Blndee6

[DAthene]

57 minutes ago, Dnst1973 said:

I think Kelli was looking for a reason to cut her. She was like a buzzard stalking prey waiting for weakness. Sickening! 

And Jalyn was the sweet humble girl we know. I have so much more respect for her after that awkward AF office visit. 

18 minutes ago, Blndee6 said:

That office scene with Jalyn was sickening. The gall of Kelli to suggest that Jalyn was unprofessional when Kelli herself is the walking epitome of unprofessionalism. She’s not not just a passive aggressive, nepotism/favoritism-embracing hypocrite; she’s also vindictive. After the SG announcement she zeroed right in on Jalyn, smugly waiting to see J’s reaction and wasting no time bashing her for it. Kelli enjoys using her authority to punish those whom she has decided deserve it, including having the girls grovel/apologize for their ‘sins.’ Kelli is the worst type of manager there is. Not watching this show anymore.

47 minutes ago, Jess14 said:

Yeah, same. I blow past a lot of the VK rumors, and I never pay much attention to the “so and so is a mean girl” stuff - that could just be an opinion, but this....there’s something else there underlying Jalyn’s cut from show group. That much is clear. I don’t know if the VK stuff is true, but there’s definitely not any disciplinary violation on Jalyn’s part or else that would’ve been stated. The whole ‘Savannah wants it so bad but is still supportive” was clearly an effort to make Jalyn look bad, and they had Kelli calling her toxic and unprofessional in the episode. The fact that Jalyn didn’t come off looking bad isn’t for lack of effort. There was just no material.

For reference, a friend who is a casual watcher (just watches for fun and isnt usually interested in behind the scenes stuff), texted me and was like “WTF! did I miss something? Why is Kelli being so mean? There’s gotta be a backstory!” It was obvious that something is amiss. 

The veracity of the summer rumors has been authenticated in my mind precisely because they had NOTHING to show.  Keyra was dropped from the team bc she missed appointments.  That was a concrete reason....although I suspect she may not have had the yes ma’am attitude Kelli commanded.   If Jalyn did ANYTHING during the season, it would have been mentioned.  If she messed up even a little bit during SG auditions, it would have been highlighted and then put in slow motion.  There. Was.  Nothing.  And having to take a moment to pull herself together...then waiting until they started rehearsing after pink and blue allowed Jalyn to show her professionalism rather than draw attention to herself coming to the semi circle while Kelli was talking.   I admire my students who wait until a classmate has finished presenting before coming into the classroom late and causing a distraction.   To me that is simply polite behavior   

And Kelli, don’t think I haven’t noticed that we only get quick glimpses of VK dancing...usually going into an end pose.  If we cannot see the truth, it doesn’t exist, right?   

[jlc]

20 minutes ago, Blndee6 said:

That office scene with Jalyn was sickening. The gall of Kelli to suggest that Jalyn was unprofessional when Kelli herself is the walking epitome of unprofessionalism. She’s not not just a passive aggressive, nepotism/favoritism-embracing hypocrite; she’s also vindictive. After the SG announcement she zeroed right in on Jalyn, smugly waiting to see J’s reaction and wasting no time bashing her for it. Kelli enjoys using her authority to punish those whom she has decided deserve it, including having the girls grovel/apologize for their ‘sins.’ Kelli is the worst type of manager there is. Not watching this show anymore.

Exactly!! She is a bully!!! She doesn't  care what anyone says or thinks, she will do and say as she likes!!! She is acting like a Kartrashian, and that is not a compliment!

[Bellisima08]

On 9/14/2019 at 7:01 PM, Tuxcat said:

Here's the list. Rachel at 18.  Jalyn at 17 is scratched out. Alexis and Taylor over to the side. Question marks next Ashlee,  Cianna and also Amanda (Kelli had said she didn't have the kicks - yet she made it anyway). I assume VK name is under Judy's hand.

Well it's clear from this list that Judy at least believed/expected that Jalyn was going to be in SG. I assume she wrote this out during the auditions. I do wonder if this list is who she thought should be in it or who she was originally told would be in it before the substitution of VK.  Between this & Judy reminding Kelli that Jalyn differed from Savannah in that its natural for Jalyn to be more upset than Savannah since she was actually on SG. it seems she felt that a disservice was being done to Jalyn. Still it feels like too little too late of defense/support for Jalyn.

Edited September 15, 2019 by Bellisima08

[Pinknblue]

31 minutes ago, Blndee6 said:

That office scene with Jalyn was sickening.

After the SG announcement she zeroed right in on Jalyn, smugly waiting to see J’s reaction and wasting no time bashing her for it. 

I only just brought myself to watch the episode - it was nauseating 🤮

6 minutes ago, DAthene said:

...then waiting until they started rehearsing after pink and blue allowed Jalyn to show her professionalism rather than draw attention to herself coming to the semi circle while Kelli was talking.   I admire my students who wait until a classmate has finished presenting before coming into the classroom late and causing a distraction.   To me that is simply polite behavior   

Jalyn was CLASSY and PROFESSIONAL AF.

My heart broke for her to have to grovel to Kelli, and to make it worse, while Kelli was snivelling at her. 

[ElenaFR]

1 hour ago, dreamcatcher said:

Oh, I live for the day one of them finally snaps and I hope it’s on camera.

Yes please! 

I also want a book. Someone write one already!

[SmpIsimon]

3 hours ago, Lolfordays said:

Rachel W would be a huge hit with the Joneses and Cowboys fans.

That is not a compliment to the Joneses nor  Cowboys fans.

Yeah, her homophobia would be particularly welcome with many of the fans!

[klh25]

The more I watch this season, the more ticked off I get.  Jalyn should be on SG.  No way Meredith, Kat, Christina, Lily makes the team over Julia.  This is stupid.  

[ByTor]

2 hours ago, Reveala said:

curls as tight as Cersten' s and Jenna. 

Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen a picture of Jenna with her natural hair.

[aeroluv327]

4 hours ago, Pasha Kitty said:

I agree!  I miss seeing KaShara - she brought life to the squad and she's gorgeous.  The two longtime vets whom the camera seems to often zoom in on, Amy and Maddie, just don't have the looks.  Nothing exciting about them!  Sorry- it's my humble opinion.   Lastly, I do agree with her opinion of Caroline as the point.

Kashara looked like she'd filled out since her tenure.  I personally think she looked fabulous with a few extra pounds!  Loved seeing her choreograph and hearing her thoughts on the point position.  I hope she comes back in future seasons as well!

[ByTor]

Oh yes, Kashara and her thoughts on the "sacred spot" 🙄

[scorpio1031]

1 minute ago, aeroluv327 said:

Kashara looked like she'd filled out since her tenure.  I personally think she looked fabulous with a few extra pounds! 

I'm hoping that a few other gals fill out after they retire or even earlier:(

[Lona]

All I gotta say is: Tara and Gabby, congratulations on being cut when you were. Now you don't have to be apart of this clusterf**k!

😂

[ATLGirl]

37 minutes ago, ByTor said:

Oh yes, Kashara and her thoughts on the "sacred spot" 🙄

I know you're hoping Brennan will be holding it down someday, am I right? 😉

Edited September 16, 2019 by ATLGirl

[Lona]

9 hours ago, glossy said:

So 3 days ago, I didn't even know what DCC was but the jump splits video showed up in my YouTube recommendations and now I've watched all of the S14 episodes.

So sorry this was your intro to the show ... 😉