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6 hours ago, TB12 said:

WFH watching last season epi where Miranda burst into tears when called over to K&J and flashback to Kitty calling her Grandma Moses, ummm its kind of crazy given Kitty's yellow and orange hair. Kitty's anger toward some girls seems so out of left field almost like they remind her of someone who wronged her. I lost all respect for Kitty last year especially when she expected VK to get the respect to lose the 11 lbs she gained rather than cut her. Don't even get me started on her talking about Tara... Kitty, if you're seeing this, Karma is a bitch & one day you'll find her sitting on your shoulder making you pay for all the hearts you've broken with your unnecessary mean girl attitude ps: i think you're just jealous of the fresh, young beautiful ladies who don't yes ma'am you to your liking... just sayin

Karma has already gotten her. Haven’t you seen her hair??? Yikes! The early 2000s called....they said they want their chunky highlights back.

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I remember in some of the earlier seasons, they showed first round people auditioning that didn't have a snowballs chance.   Overweight, could barely move on the dance floor, some doing dangerous stunts.    They were laughing at them then, and I noticed they were the same ones replayed year to year too.   I recognized the costumes, and a couple of the people, and it was just as mean then as the clips they posted too. 

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1 hour ago, J-R said:
2 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

If it's on FB it must true.  I don't care who gets point as long as it's Gina or Brennan. 

"I've heard it's Amy with Gina and Maddie on each side in front."

"Awesome for Amy!  What a honor for her."

@ShellyB  You said a couple days ago point hadn't been set, has it now?  Is it Amy? With Gina and Maddie?

5 hours ago, pinkandsparkly13 said:

Oh please to part of Marshall's comment..plenty of people have said how they don't like them featuring or making fun of the "bad" auditions. I hate that kind of response, "you didn't say anything back then". Whatever 

The big difference from when it was first shown and this montage is that this has Kelli and Judy laughing and making fun of them.  It’s one thing for viewers to do that but it’s a different thing when ladies in their positions do it. 

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Just now, MTTFan said:

I think he is trying to kiss a** given the shut down he got last season.

He probably is and I just have no respect for it. I get that DCC butters your bread, but he could have just not said anything---justifying this video; which if you consider the comments they got (and not just people tagging someone else) is overwhelming negative, maybe just shut the F up and stop making yourself look more like d*ck. 

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6 hours ago, Cruisegirl said:

I am disgusted by these videos. I can’t imagine how the girls feel seeing it over and over on social media.  I also didn’t care for Marshall’s response on FB either. I posted it below FF1A0289-9DAD-4B63-963B-A18EB381DC8B.thumb.png.87d2682e5f1fee4f5df8de73dbc9d1f9.png

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Marshall apparently cares enough to be posting lengthy explanations about choices others have made (he is not an executive producer on the show), so this is his own opinion. I respected the man in the past, and I respect him now. It’s not that he is agreeing with genocide! He just has an opinion! 

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6 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

My love and respect for Marshall is officially gone. 

I agree with this...i’m sorry but is he getting paid to defend Kelli or something? First with the VK comments (because yes, a hairdresser who would at best interact with VK once a month is the best person to speak on her maturity and dancing improvement), now with this? We’ve all laughed at inappropriate things, but we don’t post mean clips laughing over things that “happened a long time ago”. If they want to show overweight people and laugh, how about they show VK’s giggles from last tc? 🙂 then I would accept Marshall’s comments. 

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7 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I like Kat with the dark hair, but this lighter color looks better than what she had before makeovers.  If she’s happy with it....

Not a Vikki fan, but I can’t hate on her here for wearing a romper with a loose top when Kelcey is standing next to her in a green sack with a stain on the front. 

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9 hours ago, Pau84 said:

Marshall apparently cares enough to be posting lengthy explanations about choices others have made (he is not an executive producer on the show), so this is his own opinion. I respected the man in the past, and I respect him now. It’s not that he is agreeing with genocide! He just has an opinion! 

He makes a lot of money off of this organization, so I take the post as a suck up. Just my opinion and I also respect yours 

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I do not have a problem showing the clips of the past bad tryouts.  Those girls know going in to tryouts that DCC has a weight standard and is a dance organization.  Many of those girls look like they have no training and have no clue on what they are doing.  I dance great in my head but took only a year or two of ballet as a child and some years as an adult.  I know I did not have the skills to try out in my younger adult life.  I do not see this the same as VK.  Falling out of a turn is not the same as what some of these girls are doing...rolling on the floor, bad disco moves, etc.   VK gained weight in training camp, they should have called her on it sooner, but she did get cut for it.  Paige years ago made training camp 15 pounds heavier.  (while she was having a relationship with a football player) and made the team.  There's no way she dropped all 15 pounds by the time she made the team.  The comments Judy and Kelli made are tame compared to this forum.  (not picking out anyone in particular but this forum is full of snark.

The cuts I feel sorry for a few that it's being shown again and a few I do not.  The ones I feel sorry for their cut was so hard the first time like Dayton.  Megan F.  I rooted for her some because I understood her frustration but Megan F. always had the same memory problem.  It's just sad since she died.  Vivian and Malena's reactions were so bizarre and unprofessional I do not feel sorry for them that they showed it again or made comments.  I know there is Malena love on this forum but personally I was pleased that she was cut at finals.  She has memory issues and is not realistic about her ability to make this team.  Add in the hysteria and my belief she cannot handle pressure, this was not for her.  

As to VK this year, she came back leaner.  She does look like a DCC.  I know it's an unpopular opinion but she looks good.  The conspiracy theories are entertaining to me.  We were told VK was promised a spot last year, and she got cut.  Tara who I loved clearly lost her spark during training camp (she looked great at finals) and had gained some weight when we saw training camp and was not getting noticed by other choreographers.  So the whole Tara talked about VK to Savannah, I do not believe. That got a life of its own last year and now it got revived to then say Jalyn was in trouble for correcting VK.  Any dancer can have a bad day or not as good a day at an audition.  As Shelly B said, the vets and rookies were on a mission.  Instagram showed Amy having show group practice with her group and many of her girls made it. Let's be happy for the girls who had a goal and it came true.   I am happy for Rachel W and Rachel A, Carolyn, and Cianna that they made it this year.  Who knows which one was the last one to make it.  We should not assume VK stole Jalyn's spot.  I do not believe Jalyn was the first in all these years to make show group one year and not the next.  I feel sad for her but do not buy the other story because it got looped to the story that grew on Tara that did not seem to be the case in Tara's cut.  I would like to think they would have worked more with Tara last year (there seemed to be something going on) but they did not and Judy and Kelli were not the only ones pointing to her as not bringing it.

After VK was cut last year, I thought she handled it better than Kelli.  VK won me over then.  Her cut and how she reacted was so more gracious and professional (running mascara and all) then Malena.  Has there been some favoritism absolutely.  Has VK come back looking much better.  She has.  I will wait for the show to form my opinions.

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9 hours ago, scorpio1031 said:

I like Kat with the dark hair, but this lighter color looks better than what she had before makeovers.  If she’s happy with it....

Not a fan of Kat's two-tone hair here, just looks unhealthy. 

I can't believe I'm going to say this but VK looks great here. Toned down make-up, big hair without looking tacky and that jumpsuit is a great look for her. She looks a little more ature here as well when I normally find she still looks like a young girl. Urgh, so annoyed with myself for saying all of this!

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1 hour ago, DCC-UK said:

I can't believe I'm going to say this but VK looks great here. Toned down make-up, big hair without looking tacky and that jumpsuit is a great look for her. She looks a little more mature here as well when I normally find she still looks like a young girl. Urgh, so annoyed with myself for saying all of this!

She is a young girl, she's 19....And she is dressed to show off her best asset...her legs...If she's gained some maturity and personal insight she's a lock for DCC...she'll totally rock on the field...KaShara has the strength of personality and country girl 'tact' to get it across to VK what's appropriate and what's not. So hopefully changes are made.

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1 hour ago, DCC-UK said:

Not a fan of Kat's two-tone hair here, just looks unhealthy. 

I can't believe I'm going to say this but VK looks great here. Toned down make-up, big hair without looking tacky and that jumpsuit is a great look for her. She looks a little more ature here as well when I normally find she still looks like a young girl. Urgh, so annoyed with myself for saying all of this!

Lol...I think it’s the tacky pink outfits, lips, over the top lashes, ratty looking hair, etc that are gone..the natural look is cleaner and more fresh looking for her.  

Looks are one thing, but a good personality with her teammates is another beast in itself. I don’t think it matters though in K&J’s world.  They see what they see.  And we will see  what they want the tv viewers to see. 

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2 hours ago, Lexusprincess said:

I do not have a problem showing the clips of the past bad tryouts.  Those girls know going in to tryouts that DCC has a weight standard and is a dance organization.  Many of those girls look like they have no training and have no clue on what they are doing.  I dance great in my head but took only a year or two of ballet as a child and some years as an adult.  I know I did not have the skills to try out in my younger adult life.  I do not see this the same as VK.  Falling out of a turn is not the same as what some of these girls are doing...rolling on the floor, bad disco moves, etc.   VK gained weight in training camp, they should have called her on it sooner, but she did get cut for it.  Paige years ago made training camp 15 pounds heavier.  (while she was having a relationship with a football player) and made the team.  There's no way she dropped all 15 pounds by the time she made the team.  The comments Judy and Kelli made are tame compared to this forum.  (not picking out anyone in particular but this forum is full of snark.

The cuts I feel sorry for a few that it's being shown again and a few I do not.  The ones I feel sorry for their cut was so hard the first time like Dayton.  Megan F.  I rooted for her some because I understood her frustration but Megan F. always had the same memory problem.  It's just sad since she died.  Vivian and Malena's reactions were so bizarre and unprofessional I do not feel sorry for them that they showed it again or made comments.  I know there is Malena love on this forum but personally I was pleased that she was cut at finals.  She has memory issues and is not realistic about her ability to make this team.  Add in the hysteria and my belief she cannot handle pressure, this was not for her.  

As to VK this year, she came back leaner.  She does look like a DCC.  I know it's an unpopular opinion but she looks good.  The conspiracy theories are entertaining to me.  We were told VK was promised a spot last year, and she got cut.  Tara who I loved clearly lost her spark during training camp (she looked great at finals) and had gained some weight when we saw training camp and was not getting noticed by other choreographers.  So the whole Tara talked about VK to Savannah, I do not believe. That got a life of its own last year and now it got revived to then say Jalyn was in trouble for correcting VK.  Any dancer can have a bad day or not as good a day at an audition.  As Shelly B said, the vets and rookies were on a mission.  Instagram showed Amy having show group practice with her group and many of her girls made it. Let's be happy for the girls who had a goal and it came true.   I am happy for Rachel W and Rachel A, Carolyn, and Cianna that they made it this year.  Who knows which one was the last one to make it.  We should not assume VK stole Jalyn's spot.  I do not believe Jalyn was the first in all these years to make show group one year and not the next.  I feel sad for her but do not buy the other story because it got looped to the story that grew on Tara that did not seem to be the case in Tara's cut.  I would like to think they would have worked more with Tara last year (there seemed to be something going on) but they did not and Judy and Kelli were not the only ones pointing to her as not bringing it.

After VK was cut last year, I thought she handled it better than Kelli.  VK won me over then.  Her cut and how she reacted was so more gracious and professional (running mascara and all) then Malena.  Has there been some favoritism absolutely.  Has VK come back looking much better.  She has.  I will wait for the show to form my opinions.

YASSS...QUEEN ❤️🧡💛💚💙💜💖!!! Well said...

Remember, this is a “Reality” show on CMT & let me tell you, they (along with The Cowboys Organization) got all their basis covered with signed contracts by all who appear on MTT, so the ladies, who auditioned, can’t come back & sue for changing their minds by not wanting to appear on the show after all.

...AND how do I know? When I lived in San Diego years ago, I had a roommate who was a finalist on one of MTV’s Real World & before they went any further, they met with MTV lawyers who pulled out, basically a 500 page contract, so if they didn’t make it on the show or were shown as a ‘reaction too’ (good or bad), they couldn’t say or do anything about it. They were so excited about being on TRW (‘strong candidate’ was the word used), that they just signed their life away without actually reading the contracts.

I’m sure with all the stress & nervousness the women are going thru during DCC auditions, they just don’t have time to read said contracts & I think that’s the point Marshall was trying to make...that these women knew very well what they were getting themselves into, good or bad...maybe to actually find out, one of you should tryout & see how the process is done...I can’t, because I’m an old MAN!!! HaHa!!!

...and about the first ‘Mean’ Reaction Video, K & J weren’t actually laughing at the girls, they were laughing at themselves & their reactions & if anything, Judy took the brunt of Kelli’s jokes for how she reacts & behaves to the girls being cut. Judy did have good comebacks tho...

I react the same way they do, when I hear or see Vivian & I automatically think of ‘The Poem’. About a year or two ago, they did a ‘Where are they now’ with Vivian...she’s fine...married...kids...& still lyrical dancing...she even laughed at herself for the poem. Remember when Kitty told her she wasn’t a lyrical dancer, but she went on ahead & did a piece for finals? Or when during a meeting with DCC’s Media Guy, she referred to her FB followers as her fans & she was constantly looking at herself in the mirror & fluffing her hair, til Judy called her out on it? Yea, she needed to be cut...

Anyway, thanks for reading (I can ramble on, can’t I?) & I am trying to step off the soap box (A little help please?!?)

I luv this forum, thank you all for making me come back every day with all your posts & information...although I’m needing to find out who’s point & who was cut 😉

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32 minutes ago, BBK said:

 Vivian...she’s fine...married...kids...& still lyrical dancing...she even laughed at herself for the poem. Remember when Kitty told her she wasn’t a lyrical dancer, but she went on ahead & did a piece for finals? 

She’s not married or has kids? And she’s not lyrically dancing (at least regularly on insta)

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41 minutes ago, BBK said:

...and about the first ‘Mean’ Reaction Video, K & J weren’t actually laughing at the girls, they were laughing at themselves & their reactions & if anything, Judy took the brunt of Kelli’s jokes for how she reacts & behaves to the girls being cut. Judy did have good comebacks tho...

I react the same way they do, when I hear or see Vivian & I automatically think of ‘The Poem’. About a year or two ago, they did a ‘Where are they now’ with Vivian...she’s fine...married...kids...& still lyrical dancing...she even laughed at herself for the poem. Remember when Kitty told her she wasn’t a lyrical dancer, but she went on ahead & did a piece for finals? Or when during a meeting with DCC’s Media Guy, she referred to her FB followers as her fans & she was constantly looking at herself in the mirror & fluffing her hair, til Judy called her out on it? Yea, she needed to be cut...

I still love Meagan F telling off K & J. I don't recall the exact words but Kelli said something like "I think we got scolded"  after Meagan walked out of the office. .Anybody recall what it was?

I think Vivian thought she was a "shoo in" (quoting Chelsea) because she made it back to TC a 2nd time. Didn't seem to work as hard and it backfired at her.

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33 minutes ago, parrotfeathers said:

Vivian got married and has kids??

Vivian is not married with children yet. She has a serious boyfriend and is currently a USA cheerleader.  She's very big on promoting body positively and loving her curves. Seemed like she was starving herself to get on DCC.  She looks great!  A lot of ladies do that to get that DCC figure and as soon as they stop, It all piles on. I was wondering if VK got caught in that trap last year. She seems like shes a super gym bunny this year according to her IG. She looks great! 

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2 hours ago, Jessie S said:

Vivian is not married with children yet. She looks great! 

WAIT?!?! This ISN’T the forum for the Cowboys Football Team?!?!

 I joke...

Thank You all for clarifying that Miss V isn’t married with children...I’m gonna blame that on having a Senior Moment...plus, I’ve seen so many DCC alumni marriage videos lately, that maybe V blended in there somewhere 🤷🏻‍♂️ I am glad she is in a much better place now. Y’all remember Amy Simone? She’s doing great also...

I DO remember Megan F & her ‘scolding’ K&J 😂😂 I liked her...I didn’t like the oral book report she had to give though some seasons ago

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2 hours ago, Stee said:

Whether or not a girl has signed away the rights to being embarrassed or teased on national TV, Marshall’s argument is wrong. 

The context in 2019 is different than 2009. If you watch the current iterations of American Idol, The Voice, So You Think You Can Dance or America’s Got Talent, these shows have stopped focusing on “bad” auditions or humiliating people who lack self awareness. Now they focus on unique individuals with heartwarming backstories or people who have defied the odds - in today’s world, we celebrate difference, we don’t mock it or make fun of it.

Simon Cowell, the king of mean has softened. Nigel Lythgoe as well. Even former fans of “Tell it like it is” Kitty Carter have turned on her mean spiritedness. Gone are the days of laughing at William Hung for entertainment. Judges on competition shows offer positive feedback and empower contestants, they don’t humiliate them. What was fine on previous seasons doesn’t fly anymore, but the producers of DCC don’t seem to have gotten the memo or changed with the times. What’s worse - they are promoting negativity and meanspirtedness. Emphasizing it. Reveling in this form of privilege and entitlement.  

Its one thing for the doctor who auditions every year to be featured or teased - she’s in on the joke and in control of her own narrative - but it’s another to promote watching an 18 year old girl cry or laugh at a belly jiggle, for entertainment purposes. So Marshall can stick up for it all he wants, but they cannot be surprised by - or worse, criticize - the fans who ask them to act with compassion, professionalism or maturity.

Also, isn’t DCC all about female empowerment?  Conflicting messages if you ask me!  

Amen to all of this. Whether Malena or Vivian should’ve reacted differently or whether some of these girls shouldn’t have tried out in the first place is a completely different issue, IMO. I’m sure Malena knows that her reaction when she got cut was not her finest hour. I’m sure it’s bad enough to know that lots of fans think that she came off terribly, but for her to see a video where the choreographer and director are replaying the scene a year later and cringing at her probably stings about 100x more.

Ultimately, to me, this is about the director and choreographer pulling out clips (some years after the fact) and laughing at/mocking/criticizing contestants, many of whom are not affiliated with the Cowboys, in a promo video. This would be considered blatantly unprofessional in any other setting. Now I get that it’s a reality tv show, but they’re selective about when they use the “reality tv” excuse, and they’re the ones who talk about being classy and empowering. They put the label on themselves. 

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3 hours ago, Stee said:

Whether or not a girl has signed away the rights to being embarrassed or teased on national TV, Marshall’s argument is wrong. 

The context in 2019 is different than 2009. If you watch the current iterations of American Idol, The Voice, So You Think You Can Dance or America’s Got Talent, these shows have stopped focusing on “bad” auditions or humiliating people who lack self awareness. Now they focus on unique individuals with heartwarming backstories or people who have defied the odds - in today’s world, we celebrate difference, we don’t mock it or make fun of it.

Simon Cowell, the king of mean has softened. Nigel Lythgoe as well. Even former fans of “Tell it like it is” Kitty Carter have turned on her mean spiritedness. Gone are the days of laughing at William Hung for entertainment. Judges on competition shows offer positive feedback and empower contestants, they don’t humiliate them. What was fine on previous seasons doesn’t fly anymore, but the producers of DCC don’t seem to have gotten the memo or changed with the times. What’s worse - they are promoting negativity and meanspirtedness. Emphasizing it. Reveling in this form of privilege and entitlement.  

Its one thing for the doctor who auditions every year to be featured or teased - she’s in on the joke and in control of her own narrative - but it’s another to promote watching an 18 year old girl cry or laugh at a belly jiggle, for entertainment purposes. So Marshall can stick up for it all he wants, but they cannot be surprised by - or worse, criticize - the fans who ask them to act with compassion, professionalism or maturity.

Also, isn’t DCC all about female empowerment?  Conflicting messages if you ask me!  

I get all your points, but I still say those particular women do it for attention.  They want to be shown and laughed at.  I really believe that.  And none of them look 18.  They look like slightly older women who are completely aware that they will be showcased for comic relief and have no chance or intention of making the team.  They're dream is not to be a DCC.  They're dream is to get attention on national TV as a joke and it works.  Just my opinion.

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On 7/19/2019 at 5:08 PM, jlc said:

CMT has been showing season 13 for a couple weeks now. I had to stop watching when she called Dayton in to give her the you aren't going to make the team because of who your mom is. I was so mad I almost threw up!

I just binge watched season 13 OnDemand and the favortism towards VK is clear from the start. Some of the best examples: during her solo one of the female judges (can't recall her name but she was the one who later asked them questions in the faux TV interviews) started tearing up & getting very emotional & Marshall gave her this look like "I don't get why you're making such a fuss." Then later on when they were reviewing their performances, one of the male judges called VK soft & mentioned how she flailed around & Kelli narrowed her eyes & said "oh really". Then there was the whole thing with her weight gain & how they even let her get 11 pounds heavier when they have busted others cheerleaders for gaining less. And let's not forget Kitty brushing aside VK's weight gain & telling Kelli to give her a chance to turn it around, while in the same  breath she's picking on Vets for their hair or not being noticable.

The hypocrisy too is stunning particularly when it comes to how Dayton was treated compared to VK. Dayton was called out far more often for mistakes whereas when VK messed up, she was treated with kid gloves & called "a beautiful storm." The big thing that ticked me off (knowing what I know now) was Kelli telling Dayton that she wouldn't be getting a spot because of who her mother is. I laughed out loud when that scene came up because we all know that she promised VK a spot due to her closeness to Tina. Its just amazing to me that Kelli & Judy are risking the integrity of the whole training camp process for just one girl.

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3 hours ago, LincolnCentMe said:

Does anyone think that there may be a strong possibility that Charlotte has given the approval for a 38-40 group squad? 

I personally think it’s a strong possibility. Just my two Lincoln cents. 

I believe they are having a hard time cutting once again this year as the talent seems to get better and better each year. Last year Kelli did a lot of the cuts towards the end of camp. I did propose this question to Shelly as she is having a Q & A on her IG story so I’ll let you how it’s answered. 

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2 hours ago, Bellisima08 said:

I just binge watched season 13 OnDemand and the favortism towards VK is clear from the start. Some of the best examples: during her solo one of the female judges (can't recall her name but she was the one who later asked them questions in the faux TV interviews) started tearing up & getting very emotional & Marshall gave her this look like "I don't get why you're making such a fuss."

I think it was Brenda who teared up. She was the one who gave Kat a hard time about her dress with the cutouts on the sides. 

Meredith Land was the one who did the fake interviews. Both are TV anchors or reporters.

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9 minutes ago, MrsEVH said:

I think it was Brenda who teared up. She was the one who gave Kat a hard time about her dress with the cutouts on the sides. 

I think Meredith Land was the one who did the fake interviews.

Brenda did them last year, cause of course, she mentioned Victoria's mom wearing the uniform.  

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6 hours ago, LincolnCentMe said:

Does anyone think that there may be a strong possibility that Charlotte has given the approval for a 38-40 group squad? 

I personally think it’s a strong possibility. Just my two Lincoln cents. 

Here is the answer from Shelly. It’s 36

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9 minutes ago, LincolnCentMe said:

Maybe she said that bc legally she cannot say anything otherwise. 🤷🏻‍♀️🤔

She just responded to me and I posted above but she said the squad is set at 36

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With a heat wave on, I've binged on S13 all weekend. So sick of all the reality show commercials. (shove off Chicago Ink and The Hills). 🙄 But even more sick of that pile of teeth and hair hijacking the season. Kelly dragged some obvious cuts out too far. And Kitty needs declawing. 

My wish for this season is different music. And less teeth and hair taking over the screen. I’ll miss Kash and Lacey. And Lauren and Tasha. Big boots to fill for this season.

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