2019 Auditions, Finals, and Training Camp Spoilers

[JC2468]

9 hours ago, J-R said:

My first guess was Gina

It’s Gina in the first pic and Amy in the second 

[tigafer]

Apologies this isn’t really on topic. I’ve been catching up with the board the last couple of days and noticed a couple of people mentioning that Amy messed up at the Queen performance. What happened? Any videos? I tried to go back and find the original posts but couldn’t find them. Thanks! 

[Route66]

8 hours ago, HideyYall said:

From what I hear, they absolutely love her.   They all really like each other.  Including Victoria.

I know that goes against the narrative anyone wants to hear, but apparently she is really lots of fun.

Most people's problem with Victoria isn't about her as an individual, just as it wasn't about Cassie as an individual. My problem with her situation is the favoritism. Her weight gain in camp last year coupled with her blowing off Jinelle and lying about is would have gotten anyone else dismissed. Was Chelsey Chaney really that much worse that her behavior required mid-camp dismissal of a veteran? Was Tara so much worse last season than Victoria? No.

We have no idea what happens in Kelli's private life, but I'd say there's a really good chance that Victoria got a fuckton of personal attention and guidance this past year. There's a huge difference between cutting someone and encouraging her to return and cutting someone while assuring her she's 100% going to make it next time. Victoria very likely had opportunities other girls wouldn't get. I think the panel interviews are prime examples of bias, favoritism and editing. I loathe the super vague questions like "does the uniform make the girl or the other way around?" Or "what does the star stand for?". There's really no right or wrong answer and it's up to the judges to react to what you say. Victoria's answer about cutting Miss Charlotte wasn't funny or creative, they just like her so they reacted as if she'd thrown out award winning comedy.

[sleepyjean]

Random fact: Willa Ford's name is Amanda too. Amanda Williford. They changed her name so she wouldn't be compared to/confused with Mandy Moore a the time.

Other than the blonde hair, I don't think she looks much like Amanda Dilks though.

12 hours ago, Loves2Dance said:

Amanda gives me major Willa Ford vibes...

Edited August 27, 2019 by sleepyjean

[Bort]

27 minutes ago, Route66 said:

"what does the star stand for?". There's really no right or wrong answer and it's up to the judges to react to what you say.

I beg to differ on this. There is only one answer to "what does the star stand for" and the point of it is to assess whether they've done ANY research at all about the organization they're trying out for. Anyone who gets this wrong didn't even bother googling it because you get the answer just from doing that.

[itsweird]

2 hours ago, Monique said:

Briana and Taylor did a podcast last season and said they were the shortest and tallest on the team at 5’1/5’2 and 5’11 respectively 

That's awesome.  When I was a HS cheerleader, I was told to give it up because I was 5'10" and "too tall" for college squads.  

[Agent Gully]

4 hours ago, parrotfeathers said:

Which Rachel are ya'll talking about sitting out?

Rachel A.

[go4luca]

4 hours ago, JayDKay said:

Geeee. How tall is Briana? 

Petite and cute as a button!

Edited August 27, 2019 by go4luca
board added a weird emoji

[go4luca]

1 hour ago, sleepyjean said:

Other than the blonde hair, I don't think she looks much like Amanda Dilks though.

Agree.  Don't see the resemblance at all.

[kalibean]

41 minutes ago, itsweird said:

That's awesome.  When I was a HS cheerleader, I was told to give it up because I was 5'10" and "too tall" for college squads.  

I can see that for traditional cheer squads...they’re usually packed full of petite gymnasts. Pom squads and drill teams, tho? Tall girls all day every day. Just depends on if the school is large enough to support different types of squads. 

Exceptions everywhere, of course. It’s interesting to me the type of build that Kelli allows for the shorties on the squad. Brianna and Mackenzie Lee seem to be very lean in proportions versus the gymnast type build of Keyra. All are great examples of fitness, of course, but the boots really do swallow some of these gals up. 

Edited August 27, 2019 by kalibean

[ClosetDCCFan]

Brennan posted a picture of her cameo on her Insta story.  She looks great.  

[ClosetDCCFan]

Found a few others on Insta stories  ...

[Newmanbritt]

11 hours ago, HideyYall said:

I was at the game. They all looked incredible.  To answer the question about why Rachel didn't do Thunderstruck, is because it is only for 36 girls.  There have been injuries in the past and that is why 37 were taken on the team.  Two girls were told that they would rotate.  I don't know who the other is.  Guess we will find out Thursday.

I think they always look incredible. They work so hard, and I imagine first games are probably rough for a group of people who don't have a final team until 5-6 days before. I'm glad to hear someone else can back this up who was actually at the game 🙂 

[Holly85]

[forumborum]

3 hours ago, Kayce said:

Briana is one of my three faves...Brennan, Briana and Bridget 🙂

Also...they've had 37 and 39 girls before on the roster and they didn't rotate girls out, as far as I know,  for TS. .why start now?  

In 2016 they had 37 and yes  they did rotate girls for TS for each game . All 37 were on the field throughout the game.  As someone else previously stated the formation for TS will only allow 36 and no more

Edited August 27, 2019 by forumborum
Finish statement

[TUOwl84]

11 hours ago, HideyYall said:

I was at the game. They all looked incredible.  To answer the question about why Rachel didn't do Thunderstruck, is because it is only for 36 girls.  There have been injuries in the past and that is why 37 were taken on the team.  Two girls were told that they would rotate.  I don't know who the other is.  Guess we will find out Thursday.

This just doesn't make any sense to me as to why they would do that! I mean, they have all-stars that could fill in for those that are injured.  They have in the past, so why can't they now?  

Edited August 27, 2019 by TUOwl84

[Jess14]

I don’t quite understand the comment that “Thunderstruck only allows for 36 girls”? Are people suggesting that there’s no way to make a triangle with more than 36 girls or that they are simply choosing not to?

As someone else stated, they had 39 girls one year (2012, i believe), and I don’t remember 3 girls sitting out each pregame. It’s possible that they did, but I don’t remember it. Anyone have video from that year?

[KatieC]

12 hours ago, Mercurialsteph said:

That’s interesting a 3 year vet on show group would be asked to rotate not a rookie or a two year or non show group vet...

My guess is they asked girls who would be able to do the changes that are required should they need to fill in and be good at it. Filling in isn’t an easy task because depending on your position it can be very different from what you are used to doing and where your formations usually are on the field. 

[Teriyaki Terror]

3 minutes ago, KatieC said:

My guess is they asked girls who would be able to do the changes that are required should they need to fill in and be good at it. Filling in isn’t an easy task because depending on your position it can be very different from what you are used to doing and where your formations usually are on the field. 

I remember when Emma filled in for someone injured she stated the last time she was on the field her sport was on the opposite side on the 50. She was having trouble erasing her muscle memory. I am also impressed that they can dance the same motions to different music. I don't think I could do that. 

[SanDiegoGal]

13 hours ago, EricaShadows said:

I'm glad that Victoria is hidden. I wonder if it's another of Kelli's strategies to keep Victoria under the radar in the hopes that people forget about her and the fact that she didn't earn her spot the way the rest of the rookies had to...The hidden spot may also help to hide Victoria's lack of technique and all of her mistakes, including being able to turn.

Agree with your post, but I must add that it is a dangerous scenario with Victoria in that spot. If she had been in the back corner, then she could only take-out 1 or 2 girls at most with her beautiful storm antics. But in her current spot, she could wipe-out 7 or 8 girls with a single move out of space.

10 hours ago, Tootie said:

Let Christina & Savannah rotate!

I vote for Christina to rotate with Christina... which I guess makes the squad 36!

[Teriyaki Terror]

5 minutes ago, SanDiegoGal said:

Agree with your post, but I must add that it is a dangerous scenario with Victoria in that spot. If she had been in the back corner, then she could only take-out 1 or 2 girls at most with her beautiful storm antics. But in her current spot, she could wipe-out 7 or 8 girls with a single move out of space.

I vote for Christina to rotate with Christina... which I guess makes the squad 36!

I love Christina. Is she the strongest? Maybe not, but I love her dedication. It's hard to repeatedly try for something after failing multiples times. And once she finally made it, she stuck with it. Not like the quitters of Kalyssa, Alexandria, Milan, ect.   

[LadyMsJay]

1 hour ago, Jess14 said:

I don’t quite understand the comment that “Thunderstruck only allows for 36 girls”? Are people suggesting that there’s no way to make a triangle with more than 36 girls or that they are simply choosing not to?

As someone else stated, they had 39 girls one year (2012, i believe), and I don’t remember 3 girls sitting out each pregame. It’s possible that they did, but I don’t remember it. Anyone have video from that year?

They didn't. That's why I don't understand why this year is any different

[chrishunt]

2 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

Found a few others on Insta stories  ...

Saavy reminds me of Emma Mary here!

[ByTor]

1 hour ago, Jess14 said:

I don’t quite understand the comment that “Thunderstruck only allows for 36 girls”? Are people suggesting that there’s no way to make a triangle with more than 36 girls or that they are simply choosing not to?

It means there's no way to make a triangle with more than 36 girls because they are choosing not to 😁

[sATL]

Is (was) Rachel A. the runner up to miss America, who was a rookie last year, or is this a different Rachel?

[Holly85]

3 minutes ago, sATL said:

Is (was) Rachel A. the runner up to miss America, who was a rookie last year, or is this a different Rachel?

Rachel w was the runner up 

[veronicamers]

16 hours ago, SanDiegoGal said:

I will give Victoria credit for slimming down this season. With that said, her dancing ability has not improved and CMT edits are going WAY OVERBOARD with this "changed Victoria" storyline. When the candidates were filling-out the personality survey, and Victoria was shown saying that she has all new answers because she changed so much in the last year... I call B.S. Sure, she may have matured, but that does not mean that her entire personality changed! I took the Myers-Briggs Personality Test in college, in my 30's, and again in my 40's, and my personality type was the same all three times. I'd be more tempted to believe Victoria had grown and matured if it wasn't shoved down my throat every other minute. JMrightO. 🙂

Thank you. All the research shows that personality does not change much over the course of our lifetimes. Behavior, however, can change. So while we may be seeing VK make better choices when it comes to behavior, I do not buy into the theory that she had a 180 degree turnaround in her personality over the last year.

[Tuxcat]

I also think it's odd that they are rotating two girls as alternates. Everything about this season (2 points, 2 alternates who aren't alternates but sit out...) Seems like wishy washy management to me. 

Also, after re-watching the early seasons, I really miss Judy yelling at the girls like an actual coach. This year, it's just constant boring snippets of feedback from Kelli and Judy.  Quiet, repetitive   "you really need to learn the choreography and pay attention to the details." Well duh. Boring.

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

11 minutes ago, ByTor said:

It means there's no way to make a triangle with more than 36 girls because they are choosing not to 😁

I agree.  Technically, they can do a "triangle-ish" formation with 37, but the columns and staggered lines would be tricky...

[hannahbanana]

5 hours ago, DCCKnowItAll said:

It’s Gina in the first pic and Amy in the second 

It's Gina in both pics. My arrow in the 2nd pic is sloppy, but it's meant to be pointing at the 2nd girl (Gina), not the first girl (Amy). It's the 2nd girl in line (Gina) who steps out ahead of the others.

[BBK]

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Had my Rachel’s mixed up...sorry!

Edited August 27, 2019 by BBK
Wrong Rachel

[rl27rl]

36 minutes ago, veronicamers said:

Thank you. All the research shows that personality does not change much over the course of our lifetimes. Behavior, however, can change. So while we may be seeing VK make better choices when it comes to behavior, I do not buy into the theory that she had a 180 degree turnaround in her personality over the last year.

Couldn't agree more!  I don't buy it for a second that she has changed that much.  "A leopard never changes its spots".

Edited August 27, 2019 by rl27rl

[hannahbanana]

10 minutes ago, Tootie said:

I agree.  Technically, they can do a "triangle-ish" formation with 37, but the columns and staggered lines would be tricky...

No more tricky than all that switching they're doing up front with switching points/some positions.

Sorry, I don't buy the "we took 37 because we might need an alternate" theory/explanation, that's what they use All-Stars for (I know it wasn't you, @Tootiewho posted that explanation).

[Kayce]

3 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

Brennan posted a picture of her cameo on her Insta story.  She looks great.  

Her cameo is awesome!!!

[lkxydhfinl ghsdv]

7 minutes ago, BBK said:

Forgive me for being lazy about this, but too many posts have transpired since & I just don’t want to make the effort too look...

...but, regarding Rachel A....in the last video posted of the game (the person said the cheerleaders come out at about 1:18, or there abouts) isn’t that R.A. performing with her group? 

I was gonna be funny & say ‘she quit’ but I know how crazy we all went with Gina, that (even tho I posted it) I’d probably start believing it myself...HaHa...so I won’t!

...but yea, I thought I saw Rachel A.

Someone with ‘energy’ wanna confirm?

Thanks!

They showed Molly in Tess' group (some people got the two confused) and then they show a close up of Rachel W., but I didn't see Rachel A anywhere in that clip...

[BBK]

2 minutes ago, Tootie said:

They showed Molly in Tess' group (some people got the two confused) and then they show a close up of Rachel W., but I didn't see Rachel A anywhere in that clip...

Thank you, sweetie...I just realized I had my Rachel’s confused (thought Rachel A., was Rachel W.) In fact it was R.W. that I saw performing 

Oy vey...it was only the 2nd game too...I need to learn these girls name in order to keep up with y’all 😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[LaurenBrook]

2 hours ago, TUOwl84 said:

This just doesn't make any sense to me as to why they would do that! I mean, they have all-stars that could fill in for those that are injured.  They have in the past, so why can't they now?  

$$$

Cheaper to have current DCCs perform per game than all star. 

[DCCFanInKy]

3 hours ago, ClosetDCCFan said:

Found a few others on Insta stories  ...

Is that Erin in the top photo? 

[LaurenBrook]

2 hours ago, Jess14 said:

I don’t quite understand the comment that “Thunderstruck only allows for 36 girls”? Are people suggesting that there’s no way to make a triangle with more than 36 girls or that they are simply choosing not to?

As someone else stated, they had 39 girls one year (2012, i believe), and I don’t remember 3 girls sitting out each pregame. It’s possible that they did, but I don’t remember it. Anyone have video from that year?

it was after that year the girls started getting paid more per game, more period.  36 is Charlotte's current cut off for the number of girls who can be on the field at one time.  

[chabelisaywow]

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Victoria got a fuckton of personal attention and guidance this past year. 

lol not with her dancing.  falling out of turns is something you correct with 9 year olds

I don't think a stank personality can be fixed.

Don't tell me they all enjoy Veruca - they don't want to get spanked for upsetting her. 

[DCCFanInKy]

3 minutes ago, LaurenBrook said:

$$$

Cheaper to have current DCCs perform per game than all star. 

What do the allstars get paid for games? And the regular DCC is $50 right?

[J-R]

19 hours ago, Bellisima08 said:

I have been trying to figure out who it is with the super low leg, but their face is too far back. It looks like its the 4th person from the end of the line next to Maddie.

Guessing Kristen

[J-R]

On 8/25/2019 at 8:51 PM, DCCKnowItAll said:

First time posting, I usually just lurk lol I didn’t see anyone post this, but here is pregame from yesterday’s game 

Just WOW!  Bridget seriously stands out in a GOOD way.  You can spot her sparkle from a mile away.

[whosadcc]

I can understand why they would choose Rachel A over a rookie to rotate, if that's what they are doing.  If someone got injured throughout the game, they would need someone that can adjust to where that person was in the formation's that they do.  This would mean that they can dance on the right side or the left side, front or back to any of the song's.  In order to do that they need a stronger dancer to be a fill in.  Maybe this is why they took the 37 girl's. 

I have never been to a game, don 't really get the game's where I live, so please understand I am only basing this on what I see on Youtube, or on the internet.

To me, it seemed like Jinelle, last season, filled in even on the sideline's, not just for TS. However, it seemed like she had to learn everything from training camp and I can only imagine that it was a lot in a short amount of time. So instead of just having an All-Star fill in, it may have been easier to take the 37, and have a couple of girl's, that are seasoned, adjust to whatever spot that need's to be filled.

[Dal8las]

Rachel A. might be on weight watch. They also might be waiting for the end of preseason and might cut someone based off how they perform during preseason game.. I know they did meet the team, but its not like they wont cut a girl...what season was that one Kaitlin girl that made it and the then went MIA. 

[Holly85]

10 minutes ago, Dal8las said:

Rachel A. might be on weight watch. They also might be waiting for the end of preseason and might cut someone based off how they perform during preseason game.. I know they did meet the team, but its not like they wont cut a girl...what season was that one Kaitlin girl that made it and the then went MIA. 

Honestly with today being squad photo day I doubt they would do it now if they planned on cutting a lady after preseason 

[dreamcatcher]

17 hours ago, hereforthedrama said:

Correction on TS formation for when Maddie's point:

Kickline formation:

So Tess ends up in the triangle and yet Gina and Heather get pushed back in the formation? Kelli needs to retire already or at least check her eyes.

17 hours ago, DanceLife21 said:

Longtime lurker... in the latest video of TS that was posted. Just pointing out Tess screwed up at about 2:52. At the ripple in 3 groups- she should have went with first group but went on counts for the second. Visually that mistake would have been glaring. The triangle is a hot mess.  SMH

That was really bad. I can’t believe it’s been two performances and we already had one point messing up twice and someone in the second line messing up once.

14 hours ago, chrishunt said:

I understand this perspective but I thought this was the point of All-Stars! Plus, to have a show group vet as one of the rotaters as opposed to a rookie is odd imho.

Yeah that’s bullshit. At least they should be rotating one girl per game, not making a SG 3rd year vet one of the two “alternates”. Wanna force out a vet? How about the point who has been on ww for most of her tenure? How about the point who messes up? How about the girl who clearly messes up her counts? How about the beautiful storm who’s a dance risk? Alexis looked much bigger on the jumbotron so no way rachel’s out because of her weight. I’m sorry but placing Rachel in SG must mean they think she’s strong, so why on earth would they bench her over Christina and Savannah? It’s like they’re trying to force all decent dancers out with their management choices lately.

5 hours ago, kariyaki said:

I beg to differ on this. There is only one answer to "what does the star stand for" and the point of it is to assess whether they've done ANY research at all about the organization they're trying out for. Anyone who gets this wrong didn't even bother googling it because you get the answer just from doing that.

This isn’t intended to be snark, but really what exactly is the correct answer? Because they didn’t give us one on the show and none of us here seems to know what they were going for.

45 minutes ago, whosadcc said:

I can understand why they would choose Rachel A over a rookie to rotate, if that's what they are doing.  If someone got injured throughout the game, they would need someone that can adjust to where that person was in the formation's that they do.  This would mean that they can dance on the right side or the left side, front or back to any of the song's.  In order to do that they need a stronger dancer to be a fill in.  Maybe this is why they took the 37 girl's. 

I have never been to a game, don 't really get the game's where I live, so please understand I am only basing this on what I see on Youtube, or on the internet.

To me, it seemed like Jinelle, last season, filled in even on the sideline's, not just for TS. However, it seemed like she had to learn everything from training camp and I can only imagine that it was a lot in a short amount of time. So instead of just having an All-Star fill in, it may have been easier to take the 37, and have a couple of girl's, that are seasoned, adjust to whatever spot that need's to be filled.

That’s not true. All girls have the same ‘memory muscle’ issue-as in, they will be more likely to mess up the counts if they’ve been used to dancing on a certain spot. Kinda what Tess did actually. A strong rookie wouldn’t be used to her spot and would be good enough to pick up changes quickly. Plus, rotating someone in the back is quite easy. Rachel is SG so she has to be somewhere in the middle/front, which is much harder to cover for.

 As for Jinelle, let’s be honest:they’ve been doing the same sideline dances for at least a decade. At most, all stars need to learn one new dance per season, maybe 2.

[Holly85]

6 minutes ago, dreamcatcher said:

So Tess ends up in the triangle and yet Gina and Heather get pushed back in the formation? Kelli needs to retire already or at least check her eyes.

That was really bad. I can’t believe it’s been two performances and we already had one point messing up twice and someone in the second line messing up once.

Yeah that’s bullshit. At least they should be rotating one girl per game, not making a SG 3rd year vet one of the two “alternates”. Wanna force out a vet? How about the point who has been on ww for most of her tenure? How about the point who messes up? How about the girl who clearly messes up her counts? How about the beautiful storm who’s a dance risk? Alexis looked much bigger on the jumbotron so no way rachel’s out because of her weight. I’m sorry but placing Rachel in SG must mean they think she’s strong, so why on earth would they bench her over Christina and Savannah? It’s like they’re trying to force all decent dancers out with their management choices lately.

This isn’t intended to be snark, but really what exactly is the correct answer? Because they didn’t give us one on the show and none of us here seems to know what they were going for.

That’s not true. All girls have the same ‘memory muscle’ issue-as in, they will be more likely to mess up the counts if they’ve been used to dancing on a certain spot. Kinda what Tess did actually. A strong rookie wouldn’t be used to her spot and would be good enough to pick up changes quickly. Plus, rotating someone in the back is quite easy. Rachel is SG so she has to be somewhere in the middle/front, which is much harder to cover for.

 As for Jinelle, let’s be honest:they’ve been doing the same sideline dances for at least a decade. At most, all stars need to learn one new dance per season, maybe 2.

I doubt she out for weight maybe she has a small injury or something I doubt she is one of the two that will rotate !!! 

[chabelisaywow]

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I'm glad that Victoria is hidden.  I wonder if it's another of Kelli's strategies to keep Victoria under the radar in the hopes that people forget about her and the fact that she didn't earn her spot the way the rest of the rookies had to.  Tina, on the other hand, probably wants Victoria front and center so that people actually know she's there and rocking it.  The hidden spot may also help to hide Victoria's lack of technique and all of her mistakes, including being able to turn.

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Someone posted that same show group video along with the alleged Mama Kalina screaming elsewhere.  That person claims to know both Mama Kalina and Kelli and had nothing but praise for the performance. I couldn't even tell which one was Veruca and this group posted all that was wrong with performance - including awful choreo.

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I do not buy into the theory that she had a 180 degree turnaround in her personality over the last year.

i think she answered the way she thought would generate a better outcome - not so much how she really is.

Will probably never get a concrete answer on how well she is or is not perceived by teammates. TBH - if we never hear about her again, would be perfect.  She accepted her ill gotten spot. Nothing will ever make be believe it was earned. AT ALL. 

Edited August 27, 2019 by chabelisaywow

[dreamcatcher]

6 minutes ago, Holly85 said:

I doubt she out for weight maybe she has a small injury or something I doubt she is one of the two that will rotate !!! 

But she was practicing in the back, so i’m guessing it’s not injury related. Hope it’s not true, but even if multiple girls have to rotate, why would you start with a 3rd year SG vet? Unless they didn’t want to keep a vet out of the in-season games and didn’t want to force a rookie to miss out on the first game experience with their teammates. Not that Kelli is so considerate to actually think of that, and still multiple vets to choose from (ahem christina or savvy ahem).