Tuxcat

I used to think so but from the small kernels of truth we get I have doubt. In the book (half fiction probably) they talk about the t rough times between Meri and Kody - prior to the show. And at some point Meri realized she was not getting 1/3 of his time...mostly because he had tenders with Christine and Janelle. And of course we learned just last season, Kody melted down the ring Meri gave him with intention "to release himself from Meri." A deliberate act against her. And the story about how he gave heaps of presents to Christine and none to Meri years and years before... I think Janelle was the OG Kody whisperer prior to Robyn. His "intellectual equal" - she had his ear. And she for sure planted seeds. Christine was a "princess." Meri was a "b**ch." I don't think Christine was ever the favorite but she did "earn favor" by having 6 babies- which definitely is the way to get more attention. She was the "fun one" and by all accounts she wanted to be the "third wife" for a reason - "the last one." The last one always gets perks.

FYI they are filming. Mykelti apparently posted on Patreon today that she put on her makeup for the first time because "I had to film on set today." Silly me thought this show might pause for a while... but no.

I agree. But of course the tabloids and "creators" are dissecting everything to keep the flames going. And the extraordinarly, very sad thing about all of this is that the chatter actually boosts their engagement in a terrible feedback loop. Thats why I like our little private primetimer spot best! I have not read a lot of criticism/snark regarding Janelle. I have seen lots out there against Christine and Meri for not "grieving appropriately." I have seen most about Kody/Robyn being blamed et cetera and people on their page asking about seating. I think its fine to talk about here - somewhat privately - but directly with them seems a bit much. It's not like the family will answer and in my opinion they should be left alone. Janelle seems to be saying that the family is united and together. Meri said something similar yesterday and called out people who are blaming Kody for this tragedy. That is the right call and I totally agree that this family should be allowed to grieve and process how they choose, when they choose... Still, I guess the larger question is - when a family chooses to highlight certain drama and exploits their division, infighting and estrangment - are we all supposed to not discuss the obvious questions stemming from that narrative in light of such a terrible tragedy? I don't know.

And I think people also fail to understand the role alcohol could have played. Such a dangerous drug for a great many people and his family and friends said he had been struggling with it. It changes you and alcohol as a variable can change so many personal and family dynamics. While Kody is no doubt an a** for saying awful things on tv, we have very little real insight into the complexity of his relationship with Garrison.

two funerals - one private and one via the national guard. her kids did not appear in the publicly shared photographs on the nevada national guard facebook page... that does not mean they were not there though

Agree but lets not forget that Janelle still wanted to enjoy her birthday with her "best friend" - even after he said hateful things on air about her children and didn't call Savanah for Christmas... Note, I'm not faulting Janelle at all here. She is a grieving mother. I think the larger point is that none of us really know the complexities of these interpersonal relationships.

I also question all the parents in this regard. Note - no blame regarding this tragic passing. Just things we've said before about baiting the storylines for the purposes of "entertainment." This isn't a reality show where things just happen to be caught on camera. The story boards are mapped. Most recently we hear leading questions from Christine and Janelle, "so you haven't seen your dad recently..." The family's division - and their decision to involve/exploit the adult children - was a decision made by all of them. Granted the vitriol and hateful rhetoric comes from Kody and I just can't even imagine his mindset. But I don't understand why Christine and Janelle would allow it to continue season after season either. Ysabel's pain and abandonoment - publicly exploited. Garrison's...Gabe's purposefully exploited. There is a small piece of me that also wonders about Kody's increasing frustration with Garrison - especially if Garrison was struggling with mental health difficultues and alcohol. I wonder if Kody was trying to "old school/tough love" him to "get straight." Completely incorrect obviously but --- I think there was likely far more to their dynamic that we saw on screen. And perhaps that part was actually shielded from public consumption.

I understand the criticism but I do feel for Robyns kids. The older ones are likely well aware of their status in the public eye. Their mother is sent literal death threats. If they were at the service - they very well could have stayed off camera. Perhaps the family had approval as to which photos were posted by the Nevada National Guard? I would not blame them one bit for trying to stay private. As @General Days said, we really have no idea if they were there or not. Is Robyn's mother next to Annie in the second row behind Meri? Or is that someone else? Where does Janelle's sister live? I also do not know that the seating was planned at all. I noticed Savanah way at the end and my heart always goes to her a bit. But perhaps she wanted to be closer to Ysabel and just sat wherever. Same with the others.

I see both sides of the coin. I don't think anyone should comment on their pages - and I don't think anyone should directly tell them how to live their lives and mourn. We should all stay in our own lane. Meri was ripped apart recently too for attempting a social media return. Awful "fans." At the same time (and I would never say it to them), knowing the gravity of this terrible tragedy - and seeing them post about things like menopause and how plexus helps menopause (gag), and silly little trivial day to day things... I don't know. The general flow is off now. I think for me it just highlights some of the problems with social media in general - especially when it is your "job." It's just really hard to mesh real life with social media life. And surely there are other coping tools that might be more therapeutic? I feel sad if they feel like they always have to keep up appearances. Literally sold themselves for public consumption. But if that helps them.. so be it.

I heard that Aspyn and Mitch took Mr. Buttons, the one rescued most recently. Not sure where the middle kitty is.

Janelle needing to be with those grand babies - I completely get it. And yes I have no doubt that father Logan, Michelle and the rest will take good care with Gabe and Savannah (if they are not in NC). I've been wondering about the pivot some more. How do you jump back to "public life?" Mykelti/Tony are "going live" March 13th pm on her Patreon so she will be back at it. But what about the others? I saw on the group plexus page, Maddie posted about plexus and "vitality" and I thought eeesh poor word choice - but then realized those are probably scheduled posts or being done by their plexus people right now. But how do they go on with this show - or even with all their MLM posts.... Its going to be such a fine line to walk. And no judgement - I just have no idea.

Mykelti is talking on Patreon. But she said the details surrounding Garrison's passing will be kept private. The family is planning several things in the next month "to honor him" ... which I assume (note: I'm guessing) means the interview/content will be shared (exploited?) via social media or TLC in a few weeks.

Thank you for your informative, logical response. Your line of thinking on all points helped me process my own.

I'm trying to walk the fine line between speculation and respect regarding that police report. Full disclaimer - I blame NO ONE in this tragedy. By definition it is just a tragic event all the way around. Two parts still confuse me: 1) Janelle says Garrison stopped texting at 8:39 on March 4. But Gabe does not go to "check in on him" until the following morning on March 5th. This leads me to believe that they didn't think this was at a crisis level. 2) The one ominous text that people keep quoting was sent as random text to "people that they work with." People automically think that means TLC production/film related folk. But by definition it could also mean anyone on the "cast." .

Yes that is what the narrative of the police report seems to imply. We of course don't know anything for sure though. The timing is a littlle odd? According to the report Janelle last texted Garrison around 8:45 pm on March 4th. And Garrison stopped responding. But, Gabe does not go to the house to check until the following morning the 5th. So concern was definitely there. But it must have not seemed like an immediate crisis situation.