S01.E15: Walking A Tight Rope

[Drogo]

Deavan's arrival in South Korea is not as she expected; Ronald's gambling addiction causes issues with Tiffany; Paul tries to get back in Karine's good graces before she goes into labor; Corey receives shocking news; and Jenny's daughter confronts Sumit.

Airs 9/2/19. 

[Drogo]

90DF The Other Way shows the stories of these couples: 

• Paul & Karine
• Jenny & Sumit
• Laura & Aladin
• Tiffany & Ronald
• Corey & Evelin
• Deavan & Jihoon

Other couples should be discussed in their show's forums- not here.

[hookedontv]

I can’t wait for tonight’s episode. These 90 Day shows give me life. 

[Wanda]

I hope we aren’t dealt any blows.

edited to say, I hope we ARE dealt a few good blows

Edited September 2, 2019 by Wanda
Adding a thought

[RealReality]

2 hours ago, Wanda said:

I hope we aren’t dealt any blows.

edited to say, I hope we ARE dealt a few good blows

I personally don't want myself or anyone on this forum to be dealt any blows. 

However I cannot wait for some of the fools on this show to be dealt blows.  

Edited September 2, 2019 by RealReality

[Mrs. Hanson]

I just saw the promo where Tiffany says "If this does not go the way we want, I may have to rethink this" or something similar   - Oh Tiff, we have heard this so many times!!!  You will NEVER leave that douchebag.

3 hours ago, RealReality said:

I personally don't want myself or anyone on this forum to be dealt any blows. 

However I cannot wait for some of the fools on this show to be dealt blows.  

I want many blows to be dealt and lots of tears to flow!!!  Get the pino out, folks!!!!

[Mrs. Hanson]

We were not dealt any blows!!!!  Darn it!  Tiff, you brought this all on yourself.  You chose to marry a lying and manipulative addict and well......yeah you have him on a short leash but you put it there.  You got pregnant about an hour after you landed and you are both unemployed.  Let him deal with his money and you deal with yours and keep everything hidden.  No sympathy from me because you tee'd it up for the two of you!

I like Jenny's daughter in law.  

[DiamondGirl]

No sympathy from me for Tiffany either.  She also needs to stop referring to them having a baby in a foreign country.  It’s not a foreign country to him, you dolt!

[Mrs. Hanson]

7 minutes ago, DiamondGirl said:

No sympathy from me for Tiffany either.  She also needs to stop referring to them having a baby in a foreign country.  It’s not a foreign country to him, you dolt!

Everything is about her though.  I have zero empathy for her.  Her whole "I may have to rethink packing my bags" is getting really old.

[Adeejay]

I am sorry to hear about Corey's Dad. May he rest in peace! It's a shame Corey wasn't in the U.S. for his Dad's last days, instead of Ecuador being mistreated by that She-Devil.

Tiffany needs to STFU.  Even if she caught Ronald in bed with another woman or saw him holding up a Bank, she would still give him just one more chance. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Adeejay

[Caseysgirl]

Deavan picked the WRONG Asian man to get involved with. Jihoon is literally a 30 year old childish man, just as his parents said.  But she was the one that got herself pregnant on her first get together so I have no sympathy for her. But, he is sure frustrating.

[seasons]

@mamadrama - sending you my best thoughts and prayers for strength and healing. You've got this, girl. We need you here.  every day a little better and stronger. 💪

[Frozendiva]

Deaven had help getting pregnant - by a dude she barely met. And she thinks he will step up to the plate and be a dad to not one, but two children? Maybe she should have waited a bit to get to know Jihoon to assess whether he is parent material. Does she have any education? What kind of work experience? It takes two people now to work to support a family and have a home. She should have found a much wealthier Asian dude to be the baby daddy, if that is what she wanted. Or been more upfront with him. At this point both are immature. He is not looking for any responsibility or settling down and she is looking for I dunno - another meal ticket. 22, who knows what kind of education, what kind of job skills, looking for someone to take care of her. Well, Korea may be a bit disappointing in that your baby daddy has no job, no way to take care of you and lives with his folks in a very small home.

Tiffany, maybe make good on your threats to leave and do it. You chose to marry a fresh from rehab addict - you could have had a longer engagement and get to know him a lot better post treatment. You are seeing his ugly side and it probably won't change much and may get worse. You are now knocked up again by a man you barely know, barely trust, has no job, no real prospects for anything decent, you can't work there yet, and with you being preggers, it may be hard to find a decent job.

Pole, now that Karine is having the baby, things might improve. You still have to deal with the fact that she doesn't really love you, probably does not want the baby, lives like a hoarder, doesn't like your attitude, the fact that you have no job either (a trend on this show).

Jenny, you should have Googled Sumit and his parents to see about any marriage announcements in India and had a better idea of the dude before packing it up and heading there. He has been a bit of a disappointment, he is not being honest with you, you probably are still hiding things from him. Go back home to the US, enjoy some nice curry dishes and keep the dude as a friend. Emotionally he is not there.

Too bad about Corey's dad. Maybe some time away from Evil-lyn will give him some much needed perspective.

[HorrrGoodnight]

Ronald is a rager AND an unemployed gambling addict 🤔 I don't think they got pregnant on purpose. Nor do I believe it was AFTER the wedding. Tiffany should cut her losses and come on back to the states where she can leave her doors unlocked and frolic through dewy meadows. 

 I mostly FF thru Deaven's scenes bc I'm so sick of her incessant fucking whining. Super cute baby though.

DAMNNNNN Corey's dad 😥 That was soooooo sad, and for him to be away when it happened is devastating 

Jenny's daughter in law did not come to play with Sumit. The death glare was so real. 

[iwasish]

How much support is Druscillas father kicking in? Why is he off the hook and Jihoon expected to pick up expenses for two kids? 

Jihoons folks are NOT HAPPY with two more bodies in that tiny place, one a newborn. 

[Mu Shu]

Doesn’t Deaven live with her parents? Just because their house is bigger doesn’t make her any more mature than zjohoon.

she may be able to teach English. A friend just got an assignment in Hong Kong, and he’s worked with people without Bachelor degree. Deaven May have a degree. Problem solved, Jihoon becomes the stay at home parent.

[FairyDusted]

I guess it is a good thing Dracilla? stayed in Utah. That is a tiny space for all of them as it is. 

LOVE Jenny's  DIL! No BS! 

I felt terrible for Corey. Evelin was almost nice to him. 

[bichonblitz]

I love love love Jihoon's dog! Jihoon, not so much. Grow up, buddy. You're a daddy now.

1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I like Jenny's daughter in law.  

Her daughter is pretty cool, too. 

56 minutes ago, Frozendiva said:

Tiffany, maybe make good on your threats to leave and do it.

She's all talk. She's not going anywhere. 

[HunterHunted]

I sort of love that Jihoon's parents called him on his bullshit.

Jihoon: Deavan doesn't want to live here.

Mom: Because it's too small for us, an unemployed 30 year old man, his wife, and two children?

Jihoon: Uhh, yes.

Mom: You have to get your own house. You have a family now.

[Auntie Anxiety]

32 minutes ago, Mu Shu said:

she may be able to teach English.

Deaven? Teaching English? Haha haha Like, I dunno, like, she doesn’t strike me, like, as someone who, like, could even spell the word “ English,” much less, like, teach it.

[magemaud]

11 hours ago, Wanda said:

I hope we aren’t dealt any blows.

That's not what MyKuhl says! 

Edited September 3, 2019 by magemaud

[Jeanne222]

Well this was a real shit show!    Does Jihoon 's parents normally sleep in the living room and their manchild son in the bedroom?  I think yes  since that's a twin bed!

What's Sumit's big secret he's going to reveal next week?  I bet that suckers married!

Paul and Karine a waste of footage!

Tiffany and Ronald argueing...surprised the hell out of me!  Those little love birds !

Poor Corey's dad!  He seemed like a decent man!

Edited September 3, 2019 by Jeanne222

[Auntie Anxiety]

4 minutes ago, Jeanne222 said:

Well this was a real shit show!    Does Jihoon 's parents normally sleep in the living room and their manchild son in the bedroom?  I think yes  since that's a twin bed!

At least there won’t be any fights about who is going to wake up at night to feed the baby. EVERYONE will be awake, except for Doggie Jihoon, who will quickly realize that playing second fiddle to a baby human sucks. 

[JocelynCavanaugh]

So many idiots! American idiots, Asian idiots, South American idiots, African idiots! All we are missing are some European and Pacific Islander idiots! Why can’t the world come together in peace and harmony over our shared idiots? I feel bad for approximately zero of these technical adults. 

Major exception tonight: seeing Corey blindsided by grief. Man, no thanks, that was not fun at all. I’m so glad Evilyn encouraged him not to skip the funeral and pretend his dad was just far away. She may have done it just to get him out of her ratty hair for a while, but it was the right thing nonetheless. Corey would regret it the rest of his life if he missed that opportunity to honor his dad. Sincere condolences to him and his family if they’re unlucky enough to discover this site.

Of all the people I dislike on this show — and there are many, in case that wasn’t clear — I have a special place of disdain and repulsion in my soul for Karine. What a nasty little pig she turned out to be! Pregnancy does NOT look good on her, nor does being a lazy, petulant, manipulative trollop. Her only talent in this life appears to be making Pole NOT the worst person in Brazil.  Congrats, you miserable little tater tot in a tank top. You’ve got me sympathizing with a convicted arsonist who requires subtitles in his native language. Slow clap. 

[Delete]

Tiffany will forever hold Ronald's addiction over his head every time they have a disagreement. She will threaten to leave every time too. If this dumb girl had any sense she wouldn't have married and immediately get preggers with a guy who literally just got out of rehab. Nor should she expect magic, rainbow farts, and roses with a man who has no job, no savings, and no way to support her, Daniel, or the new kid. I'm appalled at the decisions she makes, and that she is dragging Daniel into it. I wanna shake her!  She frustrates me so much!!!

Jihoon's living arrangement sucks big time. I'd cry if I walked into that house after a long sleepless flight with a newborn.  This episode I'm team Goth Girl. That said, I LOVE Jihoon's parents. They so darn sweet!  I laughed when the Dad told Deaven, "Good Job" for getting through a long flight.  😂

That is so sad about Corey's dad. 😞  Heartbreaking for the entire family, but especially Corey's Mom. 

Sumit is a real jerk to be leading Jenny on like this. No doubt there is a huge amount of naivety with Jenny. She falls for his wide-eyed bull-chit about his parent's disapproval. However, Jenny's daughter was not buying any of it. There was a lot of eye rolling going on when Sum-meat was talking about how he was always thinking about Jenny even when she was in the other room. This is coming from a guy who pretended to be someone else online. 

I'm not buying what Sumit is selling. His big secret  is that he's already married.  If he really wanted to marry Jenny he'd have done it by now. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Barbara Please

[RealReality]

1 hour ago, Jeanne222 said:

What's Sumit's big secret he's going to reveal next week?  I bet that suckers married!

I feel like I've been waiting forever for these blows to be dealt!  

[MajorNelson]

17 minutes ago, Barbara Please said:

Tiffany will forever hold Ronald's addiction over his head every time they have a disagreement.

.....Nor should she expect magic, rainbow farts, and roses with a man who has no job, no savings, and no way to support her, Daniel, or the new kid. 

Tiffany is playing a weak and stupid hand.  Also, Ronald, seems easy to anger.  And Tiffany complaining how hard it is for her...I have NO sympathy.

[MajorNelson]

Jihoon, not sure if this childish boy can pull it together, but I'm rooting for him.  But from the sounds of it, his financial problems are big, and that can really hamper anything he might want to do.

There was a knowledgeable person about a week ago posting about the two kinds of rent in Korea, one involved giving the landlord 2 years worth of rent up front.  So I'm doubting very much he can do that.  And his new job is delivery, so that's low wage I'll assume.

[BoomerRumor]

4 hours ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I like Jenny's daughter in law.  

Me too! She is quite the spunky brainy gal! Plus she's checking in on her mom.

[BoomerRumor]

3 hours ago, SlutAssBitchAssHor said:

Jenny's daughter in law did not come to play with Sumit. The death glare was so real.

She is awesome. Thank goodness Jenny has her!

[PikaScrewChu]

I felt sorry for Corey. Poor dude can't catch a break. Here's to hoping he breaks it off in the US. 

Jenny and Sumit... He's married or has a bride waiting for him. FFS that shit isn't hard to find. I found an ex-friend's boyfriend on several Indian "looking for marriage" websites with about 3 identifying details. That stuff is so widely broadcast that you must not know how to Google. Or this storyline is producer driven. 

I secretly hope Jihoon and Deaven make it. Jihoon is a man child but he actually seems thrilled at the prospect of having a family. Jihoon's parents really need to realize they enabled him too. Once Deaven was pregnant it should have been game over, time to grow up. 

Jihoon's pupper needs their own talking head time. Kick Tiffany and Ronald off my screen. Bring in Jihoon's dog!

[DiamondGirl]

3 hours ago, Jeanne222 said:

What's Sumit's big secret he's going to reveal next week?  I bet that suckers married!

After Jenny visited the first time, his parents probably got him married off before she even landed back in the US.  There was no way they were going to allow their son to marry an American granny.

Sumit is a proven coward catfish liar so it’s no shock to believe that he wouldn’t have the guts to tell Jenny.  

[Twopper]

5 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

After Jenny visited the first time, his parents probably got him married off before she even landed back in the US.  There was no way they were going to allow their son to marry an American granny.

Sumit is a proven coward catfish liar so it’s no shock to believe that he wouldn’t have the guts to tell Jenny.  

That makes sense BUT if he is married why would he want Jenny and TLC to come to India to film him with Jenny?  Will he make enough money from TLC to smooth out whatever marital spats Jenny's arrival causes?  It isn't like Mrs Sumit will not find out.   This is really the only story line that interests me.  I am glad Jenny's daughter cared enough to check out Sumit.  They are not impressed, and neither am I.

So sorry for Corey to lose his dad.  That's a real blow at any age. 

Edited September 3, 2019 by Twopper

[alegtostandon]

6 hours ago, Auntie Anxiety said:

Deaven? Teaching English? Haha haha Like, I dunno, like, she doesn’t strike me, like, as someone who, like, could even spell the word “ English,” much less, like, teach it.

Oh my,  we would end up with a group of people in South Korea with the whiney, depressing talk! 

Love the little dog,  I'm a dog person. I have a little dog called a Havanese,  a small breed from Havana,  Cuba. I belong to several Havanese groups,  people have the dog strollers & those little carriers like for babies where they are strapped to their chests.   I really expected Deaven to have a fit that he was had brought the puppy to the airport.  

Tiffany is doing The Gambler no favors. If she has that little trust,  why did she marry him? She should have waited the suggested time of one year after treatment.   We were told to remember the 3 C's, you didn't Cause it,  you can't Cure it and you can't Control it.  We had weekly counseling for one year after Mr. Tostandon got out of treatment.   They need some type of counseling,  she needs it to learn how to 'let him go', he needs it to learn how to deal with her obsession over him.  If he's going to gamble,  he'll find a way whether she's controlling everything or not.  No reason why he could not go buy the part for the car without her... then not bringing her purse and sitting there with a self satisfied smirk.  

I am so glad Jenny's daughter & daughter in law showed up.   Hopefully,  they'll be there to help her when he finally admits he is already married.  I agree with DiamondGirl, I think his parents quickly married him off as soon as she left the last time.  Will be interesting when we find out! 

[Hannah94]

Baby Jihoon is so adorable! So is puppy Jihoon. 🐶 And Deaven looks 1,000,000% better without all that face paint. She is actually pretty with her natural face.

Tiffany annoyed the piss out of me in this episode. And what is it with every single shirt she wears has no shoulders? She is built like a linebacker; this is not a good look for her.

[sasha206]

Oh my poor Corey.  I can't imagine getting news like that when you are so far away.  

[Mr. Miner]

Poor Corey goes home for his dad's funeral and gives Eveline the opportunity to screw all of her old boyfriends.

What's the matter Tiffany? You don't seem so fucking smart now.

We are going to stay with parents...just a few months. lol!

Jenny's daughter and DIL are horrified that Jenny is going to be dumped back into their house, penniless this time.

Edited September 3, 2019 by Mr. Minor

[poeticlicensed]

I need to create a spreadsheet called "Who Has a Secret?"  so I can keep track of all the secrets that are to be revealed among all the franchises. It's ridiculous.

Someone remind me why Deavan is moving to Korea rather than Jihoon coming to the US. Deavan has a job, Jihoon does not (well he just got a shitty job) and  a place to live that doesn't involve sleeping on the floor. And he speaks a bit of English while Deavan speaks no Korean. Is there an issue with Jihoon coming to the US?

Pole is such a baby man. Rather than trying to figure his shit out, and despite fact that his residency request was approved, he wants to jump on a plane cuz Kareeny won't talk to him, despite the fact that he is about to have a kid to support. I wonder if he is trying to run away from actually getting a job. 

I have no patience for Tiffany at this point. 

[Hannah94]

1 minute ago, poeticlicensed said:

Someone remind me why Deavan is moving to Korea rather than Jihoon coming to the US. Deavan has a job, Jihoon does not (well he just got a shitty job) and  a place to live that doesn't involve sleeping on the floor. And he speaks a bit of English while Deavan speaks no Korean. Is there an issue with Jihoon coming to the US?

I have no patience for Tiffany at this point. 

I believe Jihoon cannot come to the states because Deavan does not have the money for his visa and no one is willing to sponsor him (please correct me if I am wrong, forum). 

I agree with you about Tiffany. I cannot stand her. I kinda liked her at first but now she grates my nerves and she is definitely going to hinder Ronald's progress. 

[blubld43]

3 hours ago, DiamondGirl said:

After Jenny visited the first time, his parents probably got him married off before she even landed back in the US.  There was no way they were going to allow their son to marry an American granny.

Sumit is a proven coward catfish liar so it’s no shock to believe that he wouldn’t have the guts to tell Jenny.  

I'm hoping Jenny's daughter and daughter in law get cast on Pillow Talk, their no nonsense attitudes would be a refreshing counter point.

[sasha206]

I wonder what Deavan was more annoyed by:  Jihoon's inability to do anything or the bad dye job he gave himself?

[PinkFlamingo]

When Corey’s relationship inevitably implodes he will regret wasting his time in Ecuador and being away from his family, before and after his fathers death. My thoughts were he should get home ASAP to be there for his mother. Such a terrible thing to lose a parent when both are at such a young age (the father being 62 is young in my opinion, and Corey is young). 

Corey sat there robotically delivering his lines almost in shock and I’m like just send him home for God sake. He has a lot to sort through, not being there before an unexpected death is going to mess with his head. Poor guy. 

[SunnyBeBe]

The news of Cory's father was horrible. Just so very sad. Cory didn't need anything else to pull him down.

Tiffany said that she finally saw a red flag! I'm shocked! So, she thinks that by following her husband around, she can prevent him from relapsing......lol.  You know, she should be ashamed to have married him with absolutely NO REAL EDUCATION on addiction.  She owed her son that much. Oh, why did Ronald need to go out anyway?  With no job, the only places he might need to go would be court and recovery meetings.  I know of two people in my life who were rage filled drivers, even when sober.....and they both were severe substance abusers.

I'm a pet lover, but, sometimes, it's not appropriate to carry a dog.  Like to the airport to pickup up your fiance who has just been alone with an infant for 24 hours. Mother and child should have your full attention and care, not a pet. I'm not sure what happened to Jihoon, but, I am wondering what is wrong with him.  I wonder if there is something really off.  I hope Deaven is able to learn the language, acclimate to their culture and earn the living to support the family.  Jihoon showing up late to airport....I hope that was producer driven and not his own irresponsibility.  

[Xena]

You could sense the panic in Pole's mother during their phone call - no way she wants him to come home, she thought she was finally rid of him, had to think fast on her feet to talk him into staying in Brazil.    

[SevenCostanza]

Jihoon's dog is the best thing about this show.   That dog and the baby are adorable, sadly the parents are idiots.  How much longer was Jihoon going to wait before he started looking for a job and his own apartment?  You're 30 time to grow up.

Tiffany bugs the crap out of me.  She doesn't know as much as she thinks she does.  Treating her husband like he's her child is not going to work.   He's right she needs to let him prove himself.   I dont' understand why they needed to get married right away and have a baby so quickly. Why throw so much responsibility  on someone you obviously feel you can't trust? 

Paul and Karine are gross I can't watch them.  The only season I liked them on was their first. 

Sorry about Corey's dad 62 is too young to die. 

The Jenny and Summit story is dragging, shit or get off the pot Summit.

[PinkFlamingo]

My guess on sumit is that his parents arranged a marriage for him that is supposed to happen in the future. They are harassing him to come home because he is supposed to be going through engagement activities or something. It doesn’t really make sense for him to already be married even though that thought did cross my mind. 

[Pepper Mostly]

Sumit's whole story stinks to high heaven. He supposedly told his parents that he accepted another job, in another city, so he'd have to move away from home. So why did he have to go to his parents' house for so long? As far as they know he lives in Bangalore now. And why did he quit his job? "To spend time with Jenny". Then he ditches her. I bet a shiny rupee he's already married. Its not his parents he's visiting, its his wife and kids.

[greekmom]

2 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

I need to create a spreadsheet called "Who Has a Secret?"  so I can keep track of all the secrets that are to be revealed among all the franchises. It's ridiculous.

When you complete it please post it!

2 hours ago, blubld43 said:

I'm hoping Jenny's daughter and daughter in law get cast on Pillow Talk, their no nonsense attitudes would be a refreshing counter point.

A 3 way between Jenny's daughter, daugter in law and Ludwig.  

[Auntie Anxiety]

4 hours ago, alegtostandon said:

   We were told to remember the 3 C's, you didn't Cause it,  you can't Cure it and you can't Control it.  We had weekly counseling for one year after Mr. Tostandon got out of treatment.   They need some type of counseling,  she needs it to learn how to 'let him go', he needs it to learn how to deal with her obsession over him.

Tiffany relishes the co-dependency. Her full time job is to worry about Ronald. Right from the jump I stated that Tiffany will end up being more parent than wife to Ronald. That gets old pretty quickly, especially when you also have two kids to be a mommy to.

[Lesia]

1 hour ago, PinkFlamingo said:

My guess on sumit is that his parents arranged a marriage for him that is supposed to happen in the future. They are harassing him to come home because he is supposed to be going through engagement activities or something. It doesn’t really make sense for him to already be married even though that thought did cross my mind. 

BINGO!! this has to be it.

If he were already married, he couldn't be travelling between the homes, like Mrs. Doubtfire on her dates (s).  Too risky and suspicious.  I think this is it!