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On 5/15/2019 at 5:30 AM, trimthatfat said:

I agree. I actually prefer Chris to the other husbands who are all too gleeful when their wives are involved in foolishness. What Monique did was not a good look and Chris seems the type who is very serious about how their appear on television. When he said he didn’t want an issue with Sherman, he meant it. 

I am sure Monique went to Gizelle to apologize at a producer’s prompting, but all Chris cares about is that his pregnant wife is engaged in yet another argument with Gizelle at someone’s wedding. I like that he stepped in. They were at someone’s wedding...it wasn’t the time or place to have this discussion. I wish producers would stop trying to force such conversations at weddings. Happened on RHOA, too.

Exactly , if Chris had not been there to step in Gizelle would have tried to elevate the conversation. I get the impression Chris is only doing this because of Monique .. It's not like they need the money. She could walk away any time and he would be good with that . . 

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20 hours ago, Quita said:

Katie always seemed a bit "off" to me, even more so after reading her Instagrams and seeing her tonight. I'm wondering if she self medicates.

yes, Katie is a complete flake.. 

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On 5/13/2019 at 9:33 PM, For Cereals said:

I hope that now that the wedding is over we will see less of Candyass’ mother.  She is obnoxious.

Well, they better move , because as long as they are in the house she's paying for we will be sure to see her. 

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8 hours ago, jmcd44 said:

My high school had their proms there back in the day! My friend worked there briefly and at the time they all had to wear the same color suit on a certain day-literally "On Tuesdays we wear pink".  When my old boss got married, she told her guests that if they had an old bridesmaid dress and wanted to wear it, go ahead and if they wanted, join her up there (no actual duties involved or strings).  She said 22 people did!  I thought it was funny.

OMG!  We in the sales office could only wear a black suit and a white shirt, then they relaxed the rule to being able to wear what ever color on Tuesday and Thursday. 

I wonder if I know your friend who worked there.

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8 hours ago, jmcd44 said:

She said 22 people did!  I thought it was funny.

If only 5 more people had done it!

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We all know that Karen lost both her parents within a few months of each other, & have felt sympathy for her and wished her well. Showing them shopping for a headstone seemed too private to be televised, even for a reality show fame heaux. I'm sure it was staged, but it was completely unnecessary & inappropriate. Dr. BBG is the same age as my FIL & only 2 years younger than my parents, but my husband (52) & oldest sibling (50) are a few years younger than Karen. 

I had to laugh when Candiace asked if Ashley was having a baby or a Corona, because I would not have been surprised if the oldest miniToothbrush had come out resembling double stuffed Oreos. They were my huge craving while I was expecting him, and I gave in often. I don't see Ashley as the maternal type, so I can't help but feel that this baby is her 18 years of child support $$ insurance, probably with a house, nanny, & college fund thrown in for good measure. Not sure why Crikey Mikey is playing along. I remain 100% surprised that he hadn't had a vasectomy years ago, and would not have expected him to have it reversed if so. Maybe the baby isn't his biologically but he has agreed to act as if (s)he is? Something is going on, & this pregnancy is not down to Ashley no longer eating meat or drinking tap water. Or going 2! whole! weeks! without alcohol. What strength 🙄 The dress Ashley was wearing at Oz was really cute, but her hair is fried. Speaking of hair, mine looks just like Robyn's did at Uncle Lumpy's party, only blond, not pink. 

On 5/19/2019 at 8:10 PM, Bronzedog said:

So, what is the deal with Michael?  Is he bisexual?  Is he straight?  Or, just all around creepy?

He is creepy AF, and my guess is he is bisexual. 

14 hours ago, RedHawk said:

Her extra efforts to get Mr. Boring Vanilla Stockbroker to propose were hilarious. 

Good times. 

13 hours ago, jmcd44 said:

Also I thought I saw food in Karen's pantry when Gizelle was snooping.  Craft services?

I totally wanted to see that pantry. We are getting ready to move, and my current obsession is pantry & closet porn. 

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Honeymoons don’t have to be expensive. My cousin went to New Orleans for hers, had a fabulous time, and didn’t go into debt doing it. I supposed after a 200K wedding, a luxurious honeymoon in Tahiti or Bali is in order, but if you don’t have it like that, adjust the trip to your budget. Chris manages a restaurant and Candiace gets paid for this show...they cannot pool together a couple of thousand for a honeymoon??? Tragic.

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18 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

I thought: mkay, this is officially icky.  I don't know how Monique naturally laughs off what would spark an immediate damn showdown for me.  

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21 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

Last thing--Monique and Chris.  Chris scared me, or at least acted like someone I could never be married to--when Monique was saying that this would be their last child, and Chris was like, "ok, the fourth will just be an oops baby."  Like, really dude?  She doesn't want another pregnancy or another kid.  How would an "oops baby" mitigate that?  And then when Monique joked that she was going to practice abstinence and Chris was basically like "oh the hell you will!"  I almost got the chills.  So Chris's marital expectation is that his wife gives sex on demand?  What if something happened to Monique either physically or mentally where she couldn't have sex for a few weeks or months?  It seems like he's saying he wouldn't settle for abstinence, so Chris is going to pursue sex elsewhere?  Gross.  I didn't like him in that scene at all.  He seemed like a sex monster, and kind of a monster overall.  I don't care about the Redskins or how many homes he can afford.  That's red flag behavior.  There are ways of expressing your marital hopes and expectations to your partner, and scoffing, sarcasm and passive-aggressive comments are not them.

I think people are reading too much into Chris. I don't think he's possessive or controlling. I think he genuinely loves and is in love with his wife. I think he's just making his wishes known about having a big brood. My husband does this all the time, constantly nagging me about when the next one is. Dude, I'm done. When you can push them babies out and you take care of them 24/7, I'm game for more. Otherwise, nope! And I think him rejecting her abstinence statement was just to be funny. It's quite obvious she's not scared of him; nor do his comments hurt her feelings. She laughed! It's no secret men need sex all day every day, so for her to suggest abstinence was a no go for him. I don't think she meant it anyway. I think they were just having a good-humored conversation.

18 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

Ya'll when Karen said Ray was two years younger than her mama?  I near bout leant over.  I knew there was a gap and at their current ages it probably makes virtually no difference at all.  But dag fam, in my mind, I don't think I could marry a dude age compatible with my parents.  The mental hurdles necessary in the bedroom?   

This was going through my head too! Just...no... It might be for some people, but it definitely ain't for me!

I can't stand Katie and I hope she's not back for a full season.

As for Michael, he's obviously bi. He can't be straight up gay and having sex with a woman, can he? And they're obviously having sex if he knocked her up! Just saying...

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On 5/20/2019 at 10:11 AM, drivethroo said:

I just wonder how old Karen's parents were when they had her because she's in her mid 50s.  My mother is a year younger than Ray (if I recall, Ray and Karen's mother were the same age) so that's weird to think my mom is old enough to be Karen's mom).

Ashley allegedly swings the ladyway too so she might not mind.  I think him throwing her out and having to live in a cheap Alexandria apartment made her more agreeable to whatever outside pursuits he may have.

She said she modeled for a "hair box" back in 2012 and that's what she got the check for.  I'm assuming this is either for a home relaxer or for a home coloring kit.

On 5/20/2019 at 11:14 AM, Juliegirlj said:

Karen seems far older than 56. Maybe because Black Bill Gates is older?!

On 5/20/2019 at 11:43 AM, bichonblitz said:

Wow, this show has reached an all time low. Is there no budget for this mess? Throwing a party for an Uncle Lumpy that nobody knows or cares about? If that made it in to the episode I can't imagine what ended up on the cutting room floor.  I don't blame half the cast for not showing up to that one. 

I can't quit Gizelle. Oh, she can be vile but damn her scenes with Karen are hilarious. They both play off each other beautifully. 

Robin needs to wear that talking head wavy bob wig full time. It was nice and she looked pretty. 

Candice's husband can't afford to pay for a nice honeymoon. What in the hell does she see in this dude? Did he contribute anything towards the wedding? Candice hanging all over him and begging him not to go to work was sickening, even if she was joking around with him. They are just gross. 

22 hours ago, Mr. Minor said:

Kangaroo Mike in the backwards baseball cap was the most disturbing thing about last night's episode.

Candiass just being Candiass was a close second.

Was Ashley's mom half lit when she came to visit?

21 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

For real, I would rather have a moderately priced wedding and take a fabulous five figure honeymoon to an exotic locale. I'd feel some kind of way spending $200k and then being too broke to go anywhere. Laid up in the bed at the townhouse not in me or my man's name, paid for by mommy. Seriously, Candiass doesn't have any profits from her wig business or Bravo funds to at least head down to the Dominican Republic? Florida? Virginia Beach? Come on now!! 

I was expecting Uncle Lumpy to be fat or at least have a really fun boisterous personality? 

Why were half the people at Uncle Lumpy's party dancing like a drunk auntie at the BBQ

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I don't blame Karen for making Gizelle work for it. The worst part of it to me wasn't even the bad joke t-shirt at the tax evasion presser, it was Gizelle basically screaming at Karen in the lobby of a hotel in France about how Ray wanted to bang some other woman. I don't even remember how that started, where that came from but it was rude and declasse to the 10th power. 

Love or hate her, Gizelle's talking heads are life and sometimes she spits real gossip truth. For instance, that Ashley song is the worst and I'm so glad Gizelle wasn't afraid to say so. 

Love Karen. 

Michael is a whole mess. I'm sensing Bravo fuckery afoot though. We better not get a season of arguing over shit that wasn't even captured by audio. 

Robyn, career of house flipper just ain't for you. Whole houses have been built in 8 months. I bet that shit still ain't done. 

19 hours ago, ZaldamoWilder said:

I was all wrapped up in this iron throne mess.  I saw on the news there's a support group on line for people who wanna complain or just need to "unpack" their issues.    Muffucah, what?  But a lunch lady got fired last month for giving a child free food and he paid her back the next day.   

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you climb up here and we both goin down.  How ya inshooonce? 

Man I ain't even cover Michael.  Is we still trying to figure out this man's sexuality?  It's all of the above, shit, let him be fluid in peace.  If Ashley like it, I love it.  She just needed to stay long enough to see what this big ole water head baby look like and then carry on.   That pre/post nup is iron clad as hell......until child support lol!!! 

Gizelle being on her better bitch grind means she think she gotta lie to Katie about this Fiddler on the Roof ass outfit.  Girl? these 12 steps mean tell a bish the truth!  Peasant chic is for the runway, lee that there.

Ya'll when Karen said Ray was two years younger than her mama?  I near bout leant over.  I knew there was a gap and at their current ages it probably makes virtually no difference at all.  But dag fam, in my mind, I don't think I could marry a dude age compatible with my parents.  The mental hurdles necessary in the bedroom?   

Speaking of hurdles.  Robyn and Juan.   Just say no to a lifetime of fuckboism.  It's ok boo, you're already single-single.  

18 hours ago, byrd said:

Well, they better move , because as long as they are in the house she's paying for we will be sure to see her. 

I often see wives that marry older rich husbands often come off as elderly themselves. Karen kind of reminds me of Lisa V in that she seems much older than her years. I think she is actually not much older than Giselle.

I appreciate that Monique disciplines her kids as compared to Robyn whole lets her boys walk all over her like Juan.

Also, Iget some of the housewives let their husbands get away with foolishness because they married rich guys who are affording them lives of luxury. What is Robyn’s excuse? How much do you want to bet that “neat freak” Juan does not do a lick of housework? I am almost certain that with the income from the show Robyn is probably supporting her live in do nothing ex. Is the dick that good? Heck, I am beginning to think Crikey Mikey is also crushing on Juan. He showed more excitement towards him than he has ever shown towards Ashley.

In the first season I actually assumed both Ashley and Michael were bisexual and had an open relationship. I was actually surprised when Ashley was so vocal that her husband was not attracted to or would ever be with a man. I think it hurts her ego because she gets a lot of self worth from her looks and status as the young hot wife of a rich older man. I sometimes wonder if Michael is not just bisexual but straight up closeted and she’s the beard.

Candiass’s and Ashly’s lunch was a personification of the bad stereotypes about pageant girls. All sweet to each other’s faces and total shade in the talking heads.

I actually thought Giselle was funny this episode until I was reminded of her nastiness in France. Why would you says such things to a woman who is supposed to be your good friend?

Also, wanted to tell Ashley that her mother will always be in her life as long as she has got money for mama to borrow.

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On 5/20/2019 at 8:43 AM, TV Diva Queen said:

I think Monique and her husband have money too. 

Yes!  Chris Samuels was an extremely good player who retired from the Washington Redskins.

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On 5/14/2019 at 1:47 PM, heatherchandler said:

AH!  Thank you.  

@islandgal140 mentioned that Candiass and her mom are God botherers - always asking for Jesus' help.  

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I figured as much.  He’s ugly.

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1 hour ago, Jennabelle88 said:

I think people are reading too much into Chris. I don't think he's possessive or controlling. I think he genuinely loves and is in love with his wife. I think he's just making his wishes known about having a big brood. My husband does this all the time, constantly nagging me about when the next one is. Dude, I'm done. When you can push them babies out and you take care of them 24/7, I'm game for more. Otherwise, nope! And I think him rejecting her abstinence statement was just to be funny. It's quite obvious she's not scared of him; nor do his comments hurt her feelings. She laughed! It's no secret men need sex all day every day, so for her to suggest abstinence was a no go for him. I don't think she meant it anyway. I think they were just having a good-humored conversation.

THIS!  But uh....(whispers) women need sex all day everyday.

Just sayin'.

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On ‎5‎/‎15‎/‎2019 at 5:22 AM, trimthatfat said:

Robyn and Juan just make me uncomfortable. I sense absolutely no romantic chemistry. They seem like good friends who happen to have kids together and don’t mind having sex when they have a minute. If they get back together officially, I will be surprised. Something just seems like it’s missing between them. Plus, who can forget Juan telling a producer that he doesn’t want to be with Robyn and not realizing he still had the mic on? 

Ooohhhh I don't remember this!  What season was it?

On ‎5‎/‎19‎/‎2019 at 9:40 PM, breezy424 said:

Gosh, this episode was long and tedious.  I just can't stand Karen and her pretentiousness along with the rest of them.  The only one that has money is Ashley's husband.  And well, what is it with him?  None of them have any class.

If I didn't get to see scenes around DC, I'd be out and unfortunately we didn't get any tonight.

I'm sick of Candy and her mother, and her barbecue husband.  Then we have Karen's rental. 

The original DC housewives were so much better.  Real careers before the show.....

Does he have a lot?  Where does he get his money?

Barbecue husband!  HAHAHA!

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21 hours ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Candiace does not work?  I thought she was a hostess.

Oh, I don't remember Candiace being a hostess, but I'll take you at your word.  Is she a high-end hostess though?  Because a lot of hostesses make minimum wage.  If she's working a min wage gig part-time, I guess I would stick with the idea that she's "functionally unemployed."  I just don't remember the circumstances of the hostessing, if anyone can refresh my soggy brain...

21 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

Doesn’t Candiace sell wigs with her sister? 

This I remembered when I said that Candiace was functionally unemployed.  Something is only a job, or employment, if that person is turning a profit.  Otherwise it's considered a hobby.   I don't know if Candiace is turning a profit, but I am kind of like Gizelle in that, if you are a RHOWhereever and you have a "business," I don't believe it's turning a profit until I see receipts.  That's why I didn't even comment on Robyn's house flipping in my original post.  It would cost less if she flushed the money directly down the toilet.  

That's why I'm so interested in Karen's fragrance--she was acting like it was in the bag episode one, but when I asked about it, all anyone said was that she was making an appearance on Tyson's Corner.  I don't mean to get all Mark Cuban Shark Tank, but I need to know the bottom line before I believe it.  

We haven't heard much about Gizelle's makeup company this season, but I am most inclined to believe that is working, if only for Gizelle kind of saying this episode what I am saying now.  She was questioning someone's employment status this episode and she was like, "show me a W-2.  Show me a W-9."  If Gizelle herself wasn't making money, that would be a pretty ballsy statement.

When the mister and I were getting close to our wedding about two years ago, I was at the mall every other day.  I noticed that JCPenney was closing, and had like 70-90% off a lot of merchandise.  My husband and I bought a good amount of stuff and put it up for sale on the Internet.  Some stuff sold, some didn't, and I'm not sure whether we turned a profit (we had other irons in the fire, so this wasn't consuming me).  But I wouldn't consider that 'employment' for myself, and, until I see more from Candiace than arguing and discussing hair samples with her sister, I'm not extending to her the benefit of the doubt.  I don't extend the benefit of the doubt to pretty much any Housewife, across any franchise, when they say they have a skincare line, or whatever, that's making money. Just the fact that Candiace actually said to Ashley's face that her pageant title was more legit than Ashley's--which is Miss DC America!--makes me question Candiace's relationship with the truth.

Oh, and they all obviously get paid for doing the show, but I can only comment on what I'm watching, and as far as Candiace's storyline goes, she doesn't seem to be employed, unless I missed the hostess thing.  I would say that it isn't apparent that any women from this franchise has a job outside of the show at this point in time, although I could be wrong about Gizelle and her makeup.  I'm not sure I'm interested in seeing them work. That's what I do, and it's boring.  But if Candiace can't afford a small honeymoon?  Get thy ass to work, my friend.

1 hour ago, Jennabelle88 said:

As for Michael, he's obviously bi. He can't be straight up gay and having sex with a woman, can he? And they're obviously having sex if he knocked her up! Just saying...

I'm not sure there's anything obvious about Michael being bi.  A gay man can have sex and impregnate a woman.  All he has to do is, ahem, get the soldier to stand at attention and...run through the drills.  He can have any combination of Juan, Chris, Chris2, BBG and Sherman running through his head the entire time.  Shit, I have no idea the extent of role playing Ashely agreed to.  I don't really want to fathom that.  I don't want to fathom anything about their sex life!

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Robyn and her home rehab.  Now I totally understand that she was the blame previously for their financial collapse.  I thought she was just some emotionally abused woman and assumed the blame.  She must believe in get-rich-quick schemes and thought this house flipping was going to be something sooooo easy.  She's a fucking dope and she looks absolutely awful this year.  Guarantee you Juan is gone again soon.

I guess I'm the only one but I like Candiace.  I thought her "are you trying to have a baby or have a Corona was hilarious.

I love any scene with Gizelle and Karen.  I also feel for Gizelle with Sherman.  She's far too gorgeous to be fucked around by that guy. 

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I was glad to see Gizelle continuing therapy but in Sherman's case he deserves to be cut off. Katie is clearly on the good stuff. That one wig Gizelle had on in the  flashback with Katie..... Chile. No. 

I don't need to see any more college pics of Juan and goldilocks. We get it, there's history 🙄. He was pretty critical and unsupportive with her project and the way he was acting was like he hadn't been keeping up with it (ie didnt care) until they needed something to film. But hey, they are like bunny rabbits so theres that 🐰

Ashley's version of not drinking is quite amusing.

I think Michael may have a Mandingo complex

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Candiace wants to complain about her miserable mother but she gets no sympathy from me. I think she overstates her fears of hurting her mother and understates her fears of pissing her mother off to the point where she gets cut off from the money. I didn't like her wedding gown...thought her dress 'wore' her. I also think it was unfortunate that of all the events for me to learn she has a really ugly cry face was at her wedding of all places. She should have cared less trying to save her eye-make up...now she's got that face immortalized forever on film. Not going to lie, the highlight of the wedding was Gizelle's confessional calling out Chris' vows, lmao.

Katie now with a broke young one. I'm guessing her return to the show was more than a love of seeing herself on screen.

Michael again with antics toward other men. I thought the brush up with the ass the last time could have been just unintentional contact...but now I'm thinking Ashley is either in denial or working hard to keep up appearances.

Robyn back with her BS and Juan. She's trying to take partial blame for the demise of their relationship because she wasn't ready. She's always been ready. She just wanted to admit to living with her ex and sleeping with her without making it seem like he wasn't the one controlling the next steps of their relationship. He was always controlling it and he's still controlling it. She continues to lie to herself and she's looking horrible while doing it. That ugly blonde hair looks like what happens when you over bleach your hair and it starts to resemble ramen noodles. Also, her house flipping business...LMAO. I'm starting to think that Robyn is underselling her own stupidity when she handed over money to a con who robbed her blind. An original 3 month timeline turns into 10 months and the house still looks like that??? This woman saw too many HGTV episodes and had just enough money to think she could double her money quick.

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Gizelle's line is out of the start-up phase and firmly in Target. She has additional products and you can also do like a Mary Kay/Avon Lady type thing and the brand has an active FB page with makeup tips, etc. I saw her at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference last fall shilling at the business expo. 

Karen had a pop-up at a suburban Bloomies. Don't know if it's sold there regularly. Why the fuck did she call it La'Dame? That's kind of ghetto with the unnecessary apostrophe. Veuve Clicquot already has La Grande Dame but she could have done something else with the La Dame. 

Robyn is a hot mess. I bet her parents are wishing they'd never gone along with that hair-brained plan.

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Candiace is as tedious as ever. She went $80K over budget for her wedding and is now thinking about saving for a home of her own? Please.

Michael's sexuality can be fluid,  but it's not right for him to hit on other people if he and Ashley have agreed to be monogamous. It's not like his creepiness would be okay if his targets were female.  I guess the million dollar question is Are Michael and Ashley mutually monogamous?  

As I semi-predicted, Robyn's storyline (life?) is all about Juan. Talk of tedium . . . I like the shorter haircut better than the wig,  but I think she should go easy on the bleaching. 

I can't stand Gizelle but she makes me laugh. She and Karen are good foils for each other. I hope Karen doesn't trust Giselle again, but I love watching them together. 

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so was karen looking for a father figure FOR HER (and her kid/kids) when she married ?

2 years younger than her father??? ICK

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On 5/20/2019 at 3:18 PM, ZaldamoWilder said:

It never could've mattered what Sherman looked like.  Age similar, black, wealthy, single, the guy's a unicorn.   Love is the icing.  She's coming up the rough side of the mountain and has 3 kids.  None of which is disadvantageous to me, but the men she's attracted to have enough cash and ego to be out here with a childless, unencumbered woman 1/2 her age without even having to consider judgement or stigma and without having to deal with any uncomfortable and inconvenient headaches like scrutiny. 

Gizelle needs to realize she dodged a bullet when it came to Sherman.  Screw me once, shame on you.  Screw me twice, shame on me.  He didn't seem all that into her.  At least from the little they showed of them together, that's what I saw.  And if you have to ask a man if he loves you?!  RED FLAG!!!  And I know she probably just did that for the cameras, but it still gave off a fake desperate moment.  I mean, she put him on the spot, so of course he's going to say yes.  I was actually embarrassed for her at that moment.  As far as his looks, he wasn't so bad.  Gizelle likes dark skinned brothers.  That's her type.  Nothing wrong with that.

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15 hours ago, politichick said:

Karen had a pop-up at a suburban Bloomies. Don't know if it's sold there regularly. Why the fuck did she call it La'Dame? That's kind of ghetto with the unnecessary apostrophe. Veuve Clicquot already has La Grande Dame but she could have done something else with the La Dame. 

That publicist I sat next to on the train talked about pop-ups for Karen's fragrance, I had no idea that she was able to get Bloomie's on board which makes me think that Bloomingdale's is no longer the upper end of departments stores, La'Dame...le sigh.

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19 hours ago, LibertarianSlut said:

I'm not sure there's anything obvious about Michael being bi.  A gay man can have sex and impregnate a woman.  All he has to do is, ahem, get the soldier to stand at attention and...run through the drills. 

I have a family friend who came out after 20 years of marriage and 3 kids. I don't know anything about their sex life during their marriage, but they did it at least three times because ... three kids. He's married to a man now and IDs as gay.

$75K over budget and no honeymoon? Nah. I'd almost rather take a honeymoon than have a big wedding, and a honeymoon right after the wedding suits my personality - it would recharge me to be alone with my person after having to be "on" for a big wedding.

18 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

An original 3 month timeline turns into 10 months and the house still looks like that??? This woman saw too many HGTV episodes and had just enough money to think she could double her money quick.

She should be embarrassed. She CLEARLY doesn't know what she's doing.

19 hours ago, sasha206 said:

I guess I'm the only one but I like Candiace.  I thought her "are you trying to have a baby or have a Corona was hilarious.

I like her too. She IS spoiled and a princess but I think she has a good heart. I hope she does something interesting this season.

14 hours ago, sATL said:

so was karen looking for a father figure FOR HER (and her kid/kids) when she married ?

2 years younger than her father??? ICK

IIRC there's a 17-year age difference between her and Ray, and she has one son from a previous relationship that I believe Ray claims. She and Ray have a daughter together. I ALWAYS forget there's a big difference between her and Ray because Ray seems pretty spry and Karen's whole comportment ages her a lot, though I think she looks younger with the short blonde wig (I don't like the long one).

Katie seemed drunk or high. She's beautiful but she's weird.

I'm like Gizelle in that I almost never stay in touch with exes. My first boyfriend from high school and I stayed friends through college, and then life kind of took us in different directions. We're connected on social media, he's a good dude. There's one that I talk to very sporadically - no hard feelings but it was a tough, sad breakup and I needed to cut off contact to get over it. In general I believe that the best way to get past an ex is to cut off contact whenever possible, and then maybe resume it later - but I almost never resume it, so ...

But Sherman was trash to her, so he deserves to be cut off. I have a sensitive spot about ghosting, as I've mentioned here before!

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22 hours ago, RHJunkie said:

Candiace wants to complain about her miserable mother but she gets no sympathy from me. I think she overstates her fears of hurting her mother and understates her fears of pissing her mother off to the point where she gets cut off from the money. I didn't like her wedding gown...thought her dress 'wore' her. I also think it was unfortunate that of all the events for me to learn she has a really ugly cry face was at her wedding of all places. She should have cared less trying to save her eye-make up...now she's got that face immortalized forever on film. Not going to lie, the highlight of the wedding was Gizelle's confessional calling out Chris' vows, lmao.

Katie now with a broke young one. I'm guessing her return to the show was more than a love of seeing herself on screen.

Michael again with antics toward other men. I thought the brush up with the ass the last time could have been just unintentional contact...but now I'm thinking Ashley is either in denial or working hard to keep up appearances.

Robyn back with her BS and Juan. She's trying to take partial blame for the demise of their relationship because she wasn't ready. She's always been ready. She just wanted to admit to living with her ex and sleeping with her without making it seem like he wasn't the one controlling the next steps of their relationship. He was always controlling it and he's still controlling it. She continues to lie to herself and she's looking horrible while doing it. That ugly blonde hair looks like what happens when you over bleach your hair and it starts to resemble ramen noodles. Also, her house flipping business...LMAO. I'm starting to think that Robyn is underselling her own stupidity when she handed over money to a con who robbed her blind. An original 3 month timeline turns into 10 months and the house still looks like that??? This woman saw too many HGTV episodes and had just enough money to think she could double her money quick.

21 hours ago, politichick said:

Gizelle's line is out of the start-up phase and firmly in Target. She has additional products and you can also do like a Mary Kay/Avon Lady type thing and the brand has an active FB page with makeup tips, etc. I saw her at the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation's annual conference last fall shilling at the business expo. 

Karen had a pop-up at a suburban Bloomies. Don't know if it's sold there regularly. Why the fuck did she call it La'Dame? That's kind of ghetto with the unnecessary apostrophe. Veuve Clicquot already has La Grande Dame but she could have done something else with the La Dame. 

Robyn is a hot mess. I bet her parents are wishing they'd never gone along with that hair-brained plan.

19 hours ago, Vanderboom said:

Candiace is as tedious as ever. She went $80K over budget for her wedding and is now thinking about saving for a home of her own? Please.

Michael's sexuality can be fluid,  but it's not right for him to hit on other people if he and Ashley have agreed to be monogamous. It's not like his creepiness would be okay if his targets were female.  I guess the million dollar question is Are Michael and Ashley mutually monogamous?  

As I semi-predicted, Robyn's storyline (life?) is all about Juan. Talk of tedium . . . I like the shorter haircut better than the wig,  but I think she should go easy on the bleaching. 

I can't stand Gizelle but she makes me laugh. She and Karen are good foils for each other. I hope Karen doesn't trust Giselle again, but I love watching them together. 

13 hours ago, swankie said:

Gizelle needs to realize she dodged a bullet when it came to Sherman.  Screw me once, shame on you.  Screw me twice, shame on me.  He didn't seem all that into her.  At least from the little they showed of them together, that's what I saw.  And if you have to ask a man if he loves you?!  RED FLAG!!!  And I know she probably just did that for the cameras, but it still gave off a fake desperate moment.  I mean, she put him on the spot, so of course he's going to say yes.  I was actually embarrassed for her at that moment.  As far as his looks, he wasn't so bad.  Gizelle likes dark skinned brothers.  That's her type.  Nothing wrong with that.

I am not surprised that Giselle make up line is doing well. She comes from somewhat  a prestigious family and is probably well connected. She was smart to leverage this contacts and get her business up and running. I kinda wish she would quit trying to snag a wallet and focus on herself because she can make her own damn fortune. Big sister gorgeous one indeed. I wish she would have given the guy who reminded me of Quincy from a Different World another chance. That guy looked at her like she was the most beautiful woman in the world.

I agree Candiass is probably not a bad person. However, the fact that this thirty year old woman and her husband are being supported by Mama and still complains constantly about her Mama with no irony makes her come off as entitled as hell and I don’t even like her mama. I also noticed how she was a little too proud that she finally had a “huuuuzband” to escort her around. 

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6 minutes ago, qtpye said:

I am not surprised that Giselle make up line is doing well. She comes from somewhat  a prestigious family and is probably well connected. She was smart to leverage this contacts and get her business up and running. I kinda wish she would quit trying to snag a wallet and focus on herself because she can make her own damn fortune. Big sister gorgeous one indeed. I wish she would have given the guy who reminded me of Quincy from a Different World another chance. That guy looked at her like she was the most beautiful woman in the world.

I agree Candiass is probably not a bad person. However, the fact that this thirty year old woman and her husband are being supported by Mama and still complains constantly about her Mama with no irony makes her come off as entitled as hell. I also noticed how she was a little too proud that she finally had a “huuuuzband” to escort her around. 

While I think Gizelle sees financial benefit in snagging a fat wallet, I think there's a large part of her that is motivated by a relationship that is not only personally fulfilling but externally pleasing to others. She could be the richest woman in the world and I still think that a respectful, handsome man who makes an average income may not be enough for her because he doesn't check the appropriate social status box. 

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5 minutes ago, RHJunkie said:

While I think Gizelle sees financial benefit in snagging a fat wallet, I think there's a large part of her that is motivated by a relationship that is not only personally fulfilling but externally pleasing to others. She could be the richest woman in the world and I still think that a respectful, handsome man who makes an average income may not be enough for her because he doesn't check the appropriate social status box. 

So true. I remember her giving an interview the second time Sherman dumped her about how she was ready to move on and looking for men with a lot of money. To each their own...I guess at least she knows what she will not waste her time with.

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Gizelle is never going to be the woman that dates a teacher, unless the teacher has a trust fund and teaches for the love of it. That's just not who she is. 

50 minutes ago, qtpye said:

I kinda wish she would quit trying to snag a wallet and focus on herself because she can make her own damn fortune.

Gizelle was very "I'll be making my own money, thank you very much," last season but I assumed she was living off child support and/or family money because there was never any mention of her working. All the stuff she was involved in - the book about her life, her makeup line - aren't guaranteed to make her money, and everything was in the developing stages until fairly recently. It takes time to get a business off the ground. Of course she makes money from the show, but the first season of the show there was no mention of her working AND no husband in the picture. Charisse didn't work either but she was pretty clear that her now-ex-husband made/had money and that's what she lived on - I think she even said "We've invested well, money isn't an issue."

What happened to Robyn's PR job? She was a workaday woman in the first couple of seasons with a job at a PR firm and she made it clear that she HAD to work, what happened to that?

57 minutes ago, qtpye said:

I also noticed how she was a little too proud that she finally had a “huuuuzband” to escort her around. 

I'm not bothered by this because every married person I know has gotten a kick out of saying "my husband/my wife" when it's new. She's been married for less than a week, the novelty hasn't worn off yet.

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1 hour ago, qtpye said:

I am not surprised that Giselle make up line is doing well. She comes from somewhat  a prestigious family and is probably well connected. She was smart to leverage this contacts and get her business up and running. I kinda wish she would quit trying to snag a wallet and focus on herself because she can make her own damn fortune. Big sister gorgeous one indeed. I wish she would have given the guy who reminded me of Quincy from a Different World another chance. That guy looked at her like she was the most beautiful woman in the world.

I agree Candiass is probably not a bad person. However, the fact that this thirty year old woman and her husband are being supported by Mama and still complains constantly about her Mama with no irony makes her come off as entitled as hell and I don’t even like her mama. I also noticed how she was a little too proud that she finally had a “huuuuzband” to escort her around. 

Yes, totally about that.  I can't imagine ever wanting to take a dime off that nasty piece of work her mother is.  Hope she gains independence.

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On 5/20/2019 at 8:43 AM, bichonblitz said:

Candice's husband can't afford to pay for a nice honeymoon. What in the hell does she see in this dude? Did he contribute anything towards the wedding?

Well if we're being honest, neither can Candiace......

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22 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Gizelle is never going to be the woman that dates a teacher, unless the teacher has a trust fund and teaches for the love of it. That's just not who she is. 

Gizelle was very "I'll be making my own money, thank you very much," last season but I assumed she was living off child support and/or family money because there was never any mention of her working. All the stuff she was involved in - the book about her life, her makeup line - aren't guaranteed to make her money, and everything was in the developing stages until fairly recently. It takes time to get a business off the ground. Of course she makes money from the show, but the first season of the show there was no mention of her working AND no husband in the picture. Charisse didn't work either but she was pretty clear that her now-ex-husband made/had money and that's what she lived on - I think she even said "We've invested well, money isn't an issue."

What happened to Robyn's PR job? She was a workaday woman in the first couple of seasons with a job at a PR firm and she made it clear that she HAD to work, what happened to that?

I'm not bothered by this because every married person I know has gotten a kick out of saying "my husband/my wife" when it's new. She's been married for less than a week, the novelty hasn't worn off yet.

That’s a good question. Maybe she still does it but the PR firm didn’t want it to be on the show. I hope she didn’t give it up to full-time “house flip” and run Juan’s b-ball academy. She probably gets a good Bravo check, but she should keep her hand in the PR game. 

And I’m another “no” vote on her super-short hairdo. She’s beautiful but that cut — and that color — looks good on a very few women. She is not one of them.

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23 hours ago, Empress1 said:

Gizelle is never going to be the woman that dates a teacher, unless the teacher has a trust fund and teaches for the love of it. That's just not who she is.

It's a shame these women who supposedly have their own business ventures and wealthy on their own (ha!) wouldn't change their dating requirements.  If they did, maybe they wouldn't be cheated on, lied to, ghosted, if they chose a quality man versus dating their bank account.

Side note:  Is Sherman really wealthy?  I know he played ball for 10 years, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is currently wealthy.  A lot of those men go broke!

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1 hour ago, sasha206 said:

It's a shame these women who supposedly have their own business ventures and wealthy on their own (ha!) wouldn't change their dating requirements.  If they did, maybe they wouldn't be cheated on, lied to, ghosted, if they chose a quality man versus dating their bank account.

Side note:  Is Sherman really wealthy?  I know he played ball for 10 years, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is currently wealthy.  A lot of those men go broke!

A quick Google search says he made $23M during his NBA career, but that doesn't say much about what he's worth now - could be more if he invested well, could be less.

1 hour ago, RedHawk said:

Maybe she still does it but the PR firm didn’t want it to be on the show.

IIRC she didn't name the firm she worked for on the show, but I could be wrong. She hasn't mentioned it in a minute. I hope she's not living on the show income alone, and she's so clearly going to lose money on that flip. One thing I've liked about Robyn is that she's been very clear about her financial situation: she had a full-time job because she needed a full-time job, she shops on a budget, she lives in a pretty modest townhouse, etc. It seems like she has a little more wiggle room now (isn't Juan working?), but if I were her I'd still keep that steady paycheck in addition to the Bravo money. More sources of income is never a bad thing.

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Wait!  Karen got all that at the dentist for a crown?  I have several crowns and have never gotten anything but novocaine.  And, I went alone.  Dramatic, much?

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Candiace, sweetie, perhaps your mother will treat you as an adult, when you act like one.  How about starting by paying your own rent! 

Robyn getting overly excited and happy because Juan is doing the bare minimum is sad. 

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Robin is pathetic.

It was a little awkward when Gizelle was talking to her daughters about New Orleans being her peaceful place and her heritage and then instead of taking her daughters, she says she wants to share it with the ladies.

 I hate cooking segments.

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7 minutes ago, Neurochick said:

Is Karen really 56 or 66?

Her mom was born in 1946 so she is really is 56.

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Candiass, you want respect and to live your life?  Stop taking the money from mom and set up a plan to pay her back for the wedding of your dreams.  Or, let her sell the condo and give up your 2/3 since you are a married woman now and find something affordable that allows you to continue to save.  You may have to move to Robin’s neighborhood...Can’t have it both ways.

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What the heck is with Karen's hair/wig?  Sorry.  Ridiculous.  Only saw the last part of the show and I really don't care about the rest of it.

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32 minutes ago, breezy424 said:

What the heck is with Karen's hair/wig?  Sorry.  Ridiculous.  Only saw the last part of the show and I really don't care about the rest of it.

Black women need to STOP with the fake blonde wigs,weaves,colors, ect.

Danm, you are beautiful with your natural hair color and I would love to have your natural untouched face skin.

No offence to any race intended, love your ethnicity and the beauty God has given to you! Amazing!

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6 hours ago, Bronzedog said:

Wait!  Karen got all that at the dentist for a crown?  I have several crowns and have never gotten anything but novocaine.  And, I went alone.  Dramatic, much?

She just had nitrous, I have it done even for my cleanings because my dentist comps it for me because my appointments take like three times longer without it because of my gag reflexes snapping jaw. It literally changed my life when I started getting it a few years ago because appointments are so much easier. I live within walking distance to my dentist so no need for someone to come with me so I don’t know if that’s something that’s recommended.

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On 5/21/2019 at 7:35 AM, trimthatfat said:

Honeymoons don’t have to be expensive. My cousin went to New Orleans for hers, had a fabulous time, and didn’t go into debt doing it. I supposed after a 200K wedding, a luxurious honeymoon in Tahiti or Bali is in order, but if you don’t have it like that, adjust the trip to your budget. Chris manages a restaurant and Candiace gets paid for this show...they cannot pool together a couple of thousand for a honeymoon??? Tragic.

I wonder if the honeymoon would have interfered with Bravo’s production schedule. I find it hard to believe they could not pull together a couple thousand. Even on the low-end, Candiace should be pulling in $250k from Bravo so I don’t understand why she and Chris are still in her mother’s condo. Something is funny with their money. 

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17 minutes ago, laprin said:

Bravo so I don’t understand why she and Chris are still in her mother’s condo.

Well according to her they are paying 2/3’s of mortgage on the condo and it’s large and apparently in a decent:good location so it’s possible their money wouldn’t go as far in the area depending on when she bought it.

Yes, C and C should move if they want to be more independent but her mother is also awful and using it as a weapon, sell it or don’t but if you are not going to sell it and you have agreed that they will pay 2/3rds of the mortgage you can’t keep using it as a bargaining chip and maintain a good relationship. It boggles my mind that her mom is a psychologist who chose to flaunt her Wiley dysfunctional relationship with her daughter on tv.  

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Karen's braids and Robyn's pink shellacked hair ... yikes. And Gizelle's wig she wore while traveling looked very cheap. Usually her hair is on point but that was too blonde and it moved as one unit.

Candiace's mother sees her as a kid because Candiace relates to her as one. The only way her mother will stay out of her business is if it's truly HER business. Her mother is always going to have strings attached.

I've had alligator in New Orleans. It was good!

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Ashley moves forward with baby-making plans; Candiace and Robyn grapple with Michael's comment; the ladies head to New Orleans to learn more about Gizelle; things get heated between Karen and Gizelle, and the Grande Dame makes a dramatic exit.

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Love Monique, I guess we will just have to get used to not seeing her that much this season since she is pregnant and can't go in on the drama. At least we got cute shots of the kids and cousin Hank.

I'm not sure it's right for Candiace to be commenting on Ashley's fertility journey, however I do believe that if the roles were reversed Ashley would absolutely not hold back on Candiace for the same thing. With each season I'm becoming less of a fan of Ashley. She seems to enjoy her role as a shit starter. 

Robyn and Juan, it's so desperate that it's uncomfortable to watch. I wonder if Bravo offers them extra money to continue to film this train wreck.

I love how Giselle's girls got her together. I have a feeling she didn't now they were going to get this uncomfortably honest with her with the cameras rolling. Sucks that your girls think that your happiness is tied to a man. 

Karen is my fav after Monique, so I cannot comment on her braided wig. 

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