S08.E01: Shaddy Beach

[Barb23]

Do all these women think they are attractive with pounds of makeup spackled on,  3 ft long hair extensions,  botox/fillers & plastic surgery?   To me, it looks like they are ready for Halloween.  Just so fake.

I never liked Danielle.  I don't think she looks good with the dark hair color.  It seems like her & Tre are switching hair colors - Danielle with the  dark & Tre going much lighter with highlights.  I can't figure out the Ponytail gal but  that shade of fake blonde is horrible on anyone. Nothing natural about that.

Back to Danielle - as someone posted she sure did "jump right into things" and she thinks she is the one. I never thought she was attractive but  her botox/face fillers made things worse. There were a couple shots of her at her party & her face  looked horrible not to mention her slanted "I Dream of Jeannie" eyes. How does she attract men? (Well ok, just thought that over & answered my own question.)

Siggy & Dolores look like they are carrying around fifty pounds of hair extensions & fifty pounds of eye makeup.  All that eye makeup has to affect the health of their eyes. I'm glad Dolores' daughter didn't follow in her mother's footsteps with all the glam stuff.  She seems down to earth. I wonder if she's embarrassed by her mom's over the top looks.

[SongbirdHollow]

I majored in Biology at an ag college, and many of my classmates were pre vet. The school in St Kitts was where you went when you didn't have the GPA to get into an American school.

[TimeToCancelTM]

11 hours ago, Misslindsey said:

I actually enjoyed it. I don't know, maybe it is the lack of Jacqueline who made me rage-y whenever she showed up onscreen. I thought it was way more entertaining than any episode this season of RHOC. I never thought I would say that. Though OC set a very low bar this season.

Completely agree!!! I've watched oc from the very beginning and NJ, oc has totally let me down the last 4 seasons... hoping these bitches spice it up! 

[njbchlover]

20 minutes ago, Barb23 said:

Do all these women think they are attractive with pounds of makeup spackled on,  3 ft long hair extensions,  botox/fillers & plastic surgery?   To me, it looks like they are ready for Halloween.  Just so fake.

I never liked Danielle.  I don't think she looks good with the dark hair color.  It seems like her & Tre are switching hair colors - Danielle with the  dark & Tre going much lighter with highlights.  I can't figure out the Ponytail gal but  that shade of fake blonde is horrible on anyone. Nothing natural about that.

Back to Danielle - as someone posted she sure did "jump right into things" and she thinks she is the one. I never thought she was attractive but  her botox/face fillers made things worse. There were a couple shots of her at her party & her face  looked horrible not to mention her slanted "I Dream of Jeannie" eyes. How does she attract men? (Well ok, just thought that over & answered my own question.)

Siggy & Dolores look like they are carrying around fifty pounds of hair extensions & fifty pounds of eye makeup.  All that eye makeup has to affect the health of their eyes. I'm glad Dolores' daughter didn't follow in her mother's footsteps with all the glam stuff.  She seems down to earth. I wonder if she's embarrassed by her mom's over the top looks.

Something about her (Margaret - ?) reminds me of Lea Black from the Miami housewives.

[poeticlicensed]

While I feel sorry for Tre losing her mom, and having to manage while Joe is "away", much of her estrangements are her own doing. She's not exactly the warmest person, and she is the type who if she just decides she doesn't want anything to do with you (Rosie, Kathy, Melissa, etc), she just cuts you out. So now she is alone, except for JoGo, who will always be there and her dad who looks in not great shape. Maybe if she was a more kindhearted and open person she would have a bigger support system. Without Joe there, her scenes at home are boring. 

It occurs to me that Melissa was once considered the interloper on the show, now she the insider. But she is same old same old. And I hate how her kids act up for the camera. 

Siggy needs to shut the eff up. 

Delores needs some serious help. I get the sense she doesn't know what's going on around her half the time. Who lets their ex live with them and has no idea their kid never finished their college apps? So weird. 

Danielle's back. Big deal. I get the feeling that she was cast to resuscitate the show. It's gonna take more than one crazy bitch for that. 

Pigtail girl? Coochie spray? Ugh. But I'll wait before I cast stones. 

The cake thing was so dumb and gross. Find a better storyline. 

I think Andy ruined this franchise when he anointed Tre Queen Bee. She decides who is in and who is out. The problem is that she doesn't have a big enough personality to carry the show. One table flip and one conviction can't sustain this franchise forever. 

Edited October 5, 2017 by poeticlicensed

[Maire]

So the one with the pigtails is just a fan who went to Siggy's "events"?

[booboopbedoo]

22 minutes ago, poeticlicensed said:

I think Andy ruined this franchise when he anointed Tre Queen Bee. She decides who is in and who is out. The problem is that she doesn't have a big enough personality to carry the show. One table flip and one conviction can't sustain this franchise forever. 

Agreed!

Now she has gone on TMZ and said she had NO idea what was going on and Joe was duped and was only trying to provide for them Right.

All the story lines are about fighting and screaming and acting like assholes. I cringe when I watch these shows and have stopped with a couple.

12 hours ago, Batwings said:

What did Siggy say? She is the most talented person on the planet?

Too much Botox has frozen her brain

[poeticlicensed]

1 minute ago, booboopbedoo said:

Agreed!

Now she has gone on TMZ and said she had NO idea what was going on and Joe was duped and was only trying to provide for them Right.

All the story lines are about fighting and screaming and acting like assholes. I cringe when I watch these shows and have stopped with a couple.

I stopped watching Atlanta altogether and I barely can stomach OC this year. I find that I DVR everything so I can FF through most of it. This show is no different. 

[booboopbedoo]

Just now, poeticlicensed said:

I stopped watching Atlanta altogether and I barely can stomach OC this year. I find that I DVR everything so I can FF through most of it. This show is no different. 

I gave up on Potomac,Dallas and probably OC. All the same shit with unlikeable women. FF is my friend!!

[tvfanatic13]

NJ always brings its special kind of crazy, and based on the previews this year is no exception. Thankfully no Jacq or Carolyn. Siggy needs to STFU. I go to NY Prime in Boca all the time, and there is NO WAY that there were actual clientele there when they filmed that. No way at all! She is just so damn full of herself.

[KungFuBunny]

15 hours ago, goofygirl said:

Jeebus kungfubunny! Help us out here!

hi Goofygirl:

This season opening wasn't so bad.

I was never a Siggy fan and she's really smelling herself this year. Overall I still prefer her over Jacqueline. I think she is having a mental breakdown over Josh going away to college.

Dolores and the exhubs have a symbiotic relationship. I'm not quite getting how it works but they will always be entwined like this even when they are in separate homes. I'm curious about that massage table - where the hell did it come from? and the soiled blanket - is it the boom boom bed they pulled out of the garage?

I felt very sad for Teresa's dad. He is absolutely lost. He lost his best friend Juicy's dad and now his soulmate.

Danielle - slipped right back into the group. Good for her.

Danielle and Siggy need to stop the injections and procedures - both of them look like they've been filled with embalming fluid - frozen in death.

Edited October 5, 2017 by KungFuBunny

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

1 hour ago, poeticlicensed said:

 She's not exactly the warmest person, and she is the type who if she just decides she doesn't want anything to do with you (Rosie, Kathy, Melissa, etc), she just cuts you out. So now she is alone, except for JoGo, who will always be there and her dad who looks in not great shape. Maybe if she was a more kindhearted and open person she would have a bigger support system. Without Joe there, her scenes at home are boring. 

Nope. Nope. Nope 

I have many issues with Theresa but I will never hold her giving Kathy and co the cold shoulder. They expected her to accept their bullshitting because "family"! Um, no. She doesn't shun them when they run into each other, but she is not going to call you up to chit chat.

As for Melissa, the last I checked they are on good terms. It seems there'll be some contrived discontent there given the previews, but until I hear otherwise, I'll chalk it up to it being producer driven.

About her being alone. It is virtually impossible given she has 4 children, a brother she is close to and a few selected friends. Sometimes, less is more. I strongly believe this in the case of friendships. 

[Mr. Miner]

Theresa shunned Kathy and Rosie because their mother made one comment about if you commit a crime you have to pay the penalty. I don't think she even mentioned any names.

The part about Melissa's partner stealing every stitch of clothing and taking it to Kim D's store sounds like a storyline to me.

[MV713]

2 hours ago, SongbirdHollow said:

I majored in Biology at an ag college, and many of my classmates were pre vet. The school in St Kitts was where you went when you didn't have the GPA to get into an American school.

the schools in Carribean are also significantly less expensive.

2 hours ago, Maire said:

So the one with the pigtails is just a fan who went to Siggy's "events"?

says she runs a "multimillion dollar" clothing/shoe/housewares business from her home? 

[Iguessnot]

13 hours ago, Juliegirlj said:

I read that Teresa is no longer on good terms with the Giudice family, particularly Joe's mother. Also that her parents ( before her moms death) gave their support to Teresa possibly divorcing Joe, even though they didn't believe in divorce. Even though they loved Joe, they blamed him for everything and may have realized he could very likely be deported upon his release from jail. 

No way would Teresa move her family to Italy, so she could be laying the groundwork for what's to come. 

I wonder if that's why the face of Joe's mother was blurred out during the funeral scene. I believe she was holding  Ariel's (baby Guidice) hand as they left the church and I recognized her blond bob behind the blurring.

Edited October 6, 2017 by Iguessnot
Had to watch again to see which child she was with.

[HunterHunted]

1 hour ago, Mr. Minor said:

Theresa shunned Kathy and Rosie because their mother made one comment about if you commit a crime you have to pay the penalty. I don't think she even mentioned any names.

The part about Melissa's partner stealing every stitch of clothing and taking it to Kim D's store sounds like a storyline to me.

Kathy and Rosie's mom wasn't wrong nor did she say it in a malicious fashion. Teresa has talked an immense amount of shit about the Pierris when she had absolutely no reason to. I might be forgetting things, but I think Teresa might have been the first one to talk badly about the other's parents.

That nonsense with Melissa's partner really happened. Don't know why, but it did.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2017/01/rhonj_melissa_gorga_envy_closed.html

[ghoulina]

2 hours ago, Maire said:

So the one with the pigtails is just a fan who went to Siggy's "events"?

It did seem like Siggy was her connection to the group, the one to "naturally" bring her in. But I don't think they knew each other well. I think she was a friend of a friend of Siggy's, and said friend brought Margaret to one of Siggy's events. 

I don't know. She seemed to tire of Siggy quicker than the others, so that bodes real well for their friendship. 

1 hour ago, Mr. Minor said:

Theresa shunned Kathy and Rosie because their mother made one comment about if you commit a crime you have to pay the penalty. I don't think she even mentioned any names.

I'm the worst when it comes to memory, but I thought it was more than that. I think that comment - along with some Tre made as well? - caused a rift between the cousins. But I thought it was the fact that Kathy and Rosie only seemed to want to "make up" when the cameras came around that really sealed the deal for Teresa. It seemed, to me, that the way they handled that entire situation showcased them as nothing more than disingenuous, manipulative famewhores. I think it left a bad taste in her mouth and made it where she just couldn't trust them. 

[b2H]

I haven't watched NJ since the original table flipping incident, so it's been a while for me.

It was good to watch the two eps of the last season reunion before digging into the episode.

Here's what got me:  if the story about Jackie and 'Envy' store is true, then I am not surprised at her not being asked back.  Between how things were at the end of the past season and the Envy incident, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near her.  I also understand that Jackie and her husband have litigation going on, so it's a really bad idea to be doing RH just now for them.  I remember a kinder and gentler Jackie, so to see the change and the perception around her is difficult, so I'm glad she's not a part of it this time.

The two new ones, I don't have enough time with either of them.  I did like the one who said in the reunion she'd've sooner gone to jail than spend time in Israel.  Most kids don't get a choice about going.  And the one who is the relationship specialist can just sit down, please.

Tre.  Lord, she has been through a lot.  A year (almost) in prison; her husband is now in 'college'; Mom passes away suddenly, leaving Dad a wreck; contemplating moving.  There's a scale out there that I learned about in Abnormal Psych about the levels of stress one experiences with certain life events.  She is well into the triple digits with just the Mom and Dad and moving thing.  I don't remember incarceration for self or a loved one being on the list, but I'm sure an updated list would have it.  Bottom line, here, is this is not insignificant and can lead to some real long-term issues, not to mention the impacts on Gia and the other daughters.  To make this personal and reflect my own compassion, within the course of four months, my Dad died, my uncle died, we were building a new house and moving into it and contemplating divorce (all between November and February).  I was a mess, so I sympathize with Tre.

My problem with this whole thing is, given the season previews, she goes back to 'normal' during the season.  Heck, that whole cake thing with her and sister in law was ridiculous and clearly the hostess was not prepared for that behavior.  The only two that thought it was funny were the two Gorga women but everyone else was appalled.

Then there's Danielle.  I think she looks awful.  I don't think she's learned much of anything during her hiatus, as she appears to be up to her old tricks again, later in the season.

I really have to think about whether I want to invest myself back into this series again.  It seems like it's just going to be the same thing it was four years ago, except they're older (and no wiser).

[ghoulina]

1 hour ago, b2H said:

Here's what got me:  if the story about Jackie and 'Envy' store is true, then I am not surprised at her not being asked back.  Between how things were at the end of the past season and the Envy incident, I wouldn't want to go anywhere near her.  I also understand that Jackie and her husband have litigation going on, so it's a really bad idea to be doing RH just now for them.  I remember a kinder and gentler Jackie, so to see the change and the perception around her is difficult, so I'm glad she's not a part of it this time.

This isn't the same person. The woman who was partnered with Melissa at Envy was indeed called Jackie. She supposedly took all the clothes one night and gave them to Kim D at Posche. She was never an actual Howife, and was only seen briefly in some of Melissa's scenes last year. She had fake blonde hair and would wear random things like a tutu. 

The cast member you're thinking of, who was not asked back, was Jacqueline Laurita. Totally different person. Rumor has she was going to be demoted to "friend of" and wasn't having it. I'm glad she's not back, though. I hated her exposing her autistic son to the cameras. 

[mwell345]

This is about Joe from Teresas new book:

http://people.com/tv/teresa-giudice-opens-up-about-her-marriage-in-revealing-new-memoir-im-still-not-happy-with-joe/

 

and this from an interview she gave to US Weekly:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-talks-joe-giudice-marriage-prison-new-book-w505538

 

 A lot of people are shocked that you haven't left him. Have you ever thought, "I'm done"?

Not yet.

Your former pal Kim DePaolo has been telling people you have a boyfriend. Is that true?

No! I'm surprised it took over a year for something like that to come out about me. I have a lot of guy friends. I really don't care what people think — I'm not living in a bubble, I have to go on with my life. And when I was away, Joe was photographed with girls and he told me, "Listen, they were with my friends," and I said, "OK, fine."

Have you been able to forgive him for all this?

When he gets home, we'll see. We have to ride this whole thing out. He has to serve his time, come home and do amazing. And then I'll answer that question. But I am giving him a chance. That's why I'm standing by him.

 

One more thing  - on WWHL,  Andy asked if, since Teresa's mother died, fences have been mended with Wakiles and Rosie.  Before Melissa could answer, he said "Did they come around (to the house)" - Melissa said yes, they came around...but that was pretty much it.  She never really said if those fences have been mended. My sense was she wanted to move on.

1 hour ago, HunterHunted said:

Kathy and Rosie's mom wasn't wrong nor did she say it in a malicious fashion. Teresa has talked an immense amount of shit about the Pierris when she had absolutely no reason to. I might be forgetting things, but I think Teresa might have been the first one to talk badly about the other's parents.

I  can't remember the details, but I think it all started at the  infamous reunion when Teresa said something like her father was there for Kathy and Rosie when their father wasn't - something like that - and Kathy jumped all over and Rosie backstage started screaming "I'll kill her". And as ghoulina said, it did have something to do with them wanting to make up in front of the cameras. The Wakiles were very, very, thirsty and Teresa was their drink ticket. 

Edited October 5, 2017 by mwell345

[mwell345]

5 minutes ago, mwell345 said:

This is about Joe from Teresas new book:

http://people.com/tv/teresa-giudice-opens-up-about-her-marriage-in-revealing-new-memoir-im-still-not-happy-with-joe/

 

and this from an interview she gave to US Weekly:

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/teresa-giudice-talks-joe-giudice-marriage-prison-new-book-w505538

 

 A lot of people are shocked that you haven't left him. Have you ever thought, "I'm done"?

Not yet.

Your former pal Kim DePaolo has been telling people you have a boyfriend. Is that true?

No! I'm surprised it took over a year for something like that to come out about me. I have a lot of guy friends. I really don't care what people think — I'm not living in a bubble, I have to go on with my life. And when I was away, Joe was photographed with girls and he told me, "Listen, they were with my friends," and I said, "OK, fine."

Have you been able to forgive him for all this?

When he gets home, we'll see. We have to ride this whole thing out. He has to serve his time, come home and do amazing. And then I'll answer that question. But I am giving him a chance. That's why I'm standing by him.

 

One more thing  - on WWHL,  Andy asked if, since Teresa's mother died, fences have been mended with Wakiles and Rosie.  Before Melissa could answer, he said "Did they come around (to the house)" - Melissa said yes, they came around...but that was pretty much it.  She never really said if those fences have been mended. My sense was she wanted to move on.

I  can't remember the details, but I think it all started at the  infamous reunion when Teresa said something like her father was there for Kathy and Rosie when their father wasn't - something like that - and Kathy jumped all over and Rosie backstage started screaming "I'll kill her".  And as ghoulina said, it did have something to do with them wanting to make up in front of the cameras. The Wakiles were very, very, thirsty and Teresa was their drink ticket. 

 

Edited October 5, 2017 by mwell345
Dont know why this double posted.

[JAYJAY1979]

So are we in agreement that Soggy is getting the season 2 edit?

 

Why is Delores letting her ex husband move back in?  Kudos for her encouraging her daughter to get an education and career though.

[nexxie]

imo Teresa is a true narcissist and couldn't take sharing the spotlight with her cousins, both of whom are more natural and likeable than Teresa. 

[Deputy Deputy CoS]

8 minutes ago, nexxie said:

imo Teresa is a true narcissist and couldn't take sharing the spotlight with her cousins, both of whom are more natural and likeable than Teresa. 

No, there weren't.

Teresa is sharing the spotlight with her family right now with no problems.

[nexxie]

5 minutes ago, Deputy Deputy CoS said:

No, there weren't.

Teresa is sharing the spotlight with her family right now with no problems.

As long as she's queen bee, no problem - Kathy and Rosie threatened her fragile sense of self, without trying or even knowing it.

[Gam2]

SongbirdHollow, you're correct about St. Kitts Vet School. My son graduated from a very sought after Vet School in the States. During his 4 years, there were a couple of transfers from St. Kitts. They flunked out after one semester. They were so deficient that they couldn't keep up. 

[itsadryheat]

Not encouraging when you need earplugs, cliff notes to figure out whats going on and a cake is the best part of the episode.

At least OC has Archie.

[Mindthinkr]

6 hours ago, KungFuBunny said:

Dolores and the exhubs have a symbiotic relationship. I'm not quite getting how it works but they will always be entwined like this even when they are in separate homes. I'm curious about that massage table - where the hell did it come from? and the soiled blanket - is it the boom boom bed they pulled out of the garage?

Yes their relationship seems co-dependent. 

Their son set up the massage table. I think that he meant it as a joke and the parents were too shocked to admit why it was there (Did the Dad go to a massage parlor and the son knew? Just guessing. The joke fell flat.). 

Dont know about the soiled sheet but yuck. 

[LilaFowler]

Siggy's son is a student at Penn State.

Here is a snapshot of Tre and mystery man at the funeral. If I had to guess, I'd say it's the lawyer. It isn't clear. Whoever it is, he is enormous and needs to lose weight.

Still can't get over obnoxious Siggy and her "king."

[AttackTurtle]

Oh God Siggy is obnoxious. I like Dolores, but Siggy is just intolerable.

I am thrilled that Jaqueline is gone.

Theresa's husband referred to her as a c--t on national t.v. while likely on the phone with his mistress.  It is very possible that she waited for the go-ahead from her parents to get a divorce, but she'll get no judgment from me if she pulls the plug on her marriage.

Kathy and Rosie enjoyed every minute of Theresa's legal troubles and said nothing when Richie repeatedly trashed Theresa.  

Theresa is a majorly flawed human being; however she still seems broken.  I enjoy seeing her and her brother get along as well as her and Melissa.  

[whydoievencare]

Is Siggy hearing impaired?  Is that why she YELLS ALL THE TIME?  Or do people not hear her unless she is YELLING ALL THE TIME!  Or is she just mentally impaired?  "I'm the best and the prettiest and I speak in trite cliches.  And if you don't agree with me then there'e something wrong with you!".  And what's with all the fucking tears at the drop of a hat?

[Never Again]

5 hours ago, b2H said:

The two new ones, I don't have enough time with either of them.  I did like the one who said in the reunion she'd've sooner gone to jail than spend time in Israel.  Most kids don't get a choice about going.  And the one who is the relationship specialist can just sit down, please.

Who is the one who said that?  Why would someone rather go to jail than to Israel?  That sounds so mean. Are you saying it was a kid?  I saw the reunion last year but I just don't remember this at all

[TexasGal]

I can’t believe we endured an episode with Danielle and didn’t hear anything about her girls.  Their status is the only thing that interests me about Danielle.

[PerPlexied]

3 hours ago, nexxie said:

imo Teresa is a true narcissist and couldn't take sharing the spotlight with her cousins, both of whom are more natural and likeable than Teresa. 

Are they?! I guess if thirsty, let's-pretend-we've-been-best-friends-when-really-one-didn't-speak-to-the-other-because-she-was-gay, willing-to-throw-your-family-under-the-bus famewhores means more natural and likable, then okay. 

[AttackTurtle]

1 hour ago, PerPlexied said:

Are they?! I guess if thirsty, let's-pretend-we've-been-best-friends-when-really-one-didn't-speak-to-the-other-because-she-was-gay, willing-to-throw-your-family-under-the-bus famewhores means more natural and likable, then okay. 

Seriously I couldn't stand Kathy and her husband was unbearable.  Her daughter seemed sweet though.  Both Rosie & Kathy seemed desperate to be on t.v. to me.   

[stcroix]

I'm in the minority I know, but I liked the show tonight (ducks head and runs!)  No really, I thought it was pretty interesting.  The thing I CANT STAND (speaking in Siggy volume) is that they kept Siggy and Delores....  Delores is so blah to me, just not interesting at all.  And Siggy is so full of herself, so over the top in every way I felt I needed my migraine medicine about 1/2 way through the show.  What does she bring to the show besides her ridiculously made up and loud self?!  Delores brings nothing.  Cant stand her ex hubby, don't care where he sleeps, her kids are shy and not interested in being performing monkeys--- why is she on the show?!  And Siggy must have already known which college her son got into since she'd gone out and bought all the things for his room.  The devil in me was hoping he'd not got accepted to ANY of them.... I know, I know, that is awful.  I didn't want him to be hurt but I would have felt a little thrill of glee if she hadn't gotten what she wanted.  Speaking as an only child who was spoiled some-- she seems like an only child who was spoiled a lot in every way!  (and I know she wasn't an only child.  I feel sorry for her siblings, though.....can you imagine growing up with THAT VOICE every day?!  Wowza...)

[Iguessnot]

4 hours ago, Rbonnie said:

Who is the one who said that?  Why would someone rather go to jail than to Israel?  That sounds so mean. Are you saying it was a kid?  I saw the reunion last year but I just don't remember this at all

Siggy said that. It was something from her earlier years. I think her parent were heading back and she didn't want to go.

[BBHN]

Siggy talked about it at the last reunion:

[Kiki777]

8 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

Both Rosie & Kathy seemed desperate to be on t.v. to me.   

Maybe a little (but aren't they all at least a little fame-hungry for even being on reality tv?) but I considered Melissa and her Joe to be the really desperate ones - on her first season Melissa did the whole pop star wannabe schtick - didn't even have the decency to wait a bit like Countess Luann lol.

speaking of Joes, I kinda hate Pigtails for bringing on yet another husband named Joe.  Other than that, she seems ok.  I like that she doesn't drink.  We have enough drunken idiots on RHWs.  

[Never Again]

8 hours ago, Iguessnot said:

Siggy said that. It was something from her earlier years. I think her parent were heading back and she didn't want to go.

 

4 hours ago, BBHN said:

Siggy talked about it at the last reunion:

 

Ah, yes, thank you both, now that I see it I do remember. (As a mom I felt bad for her mom and as a daughter I felt bad for her!)

[eurekagirl mOo]

These were my original flavor Housewives were I fell down the Bravo rabbit hole so many years ago. I have always had a soft spot for these gals.

No Jacklyn HOORAY! Guess she has enough problems with her own bankruptcy. Sanctimonious Cow. 

Siggy-Shut the F*** Up!!! You're not Oprah. You do lectures at spas. Big deal. 

Delores-Cut the ties...I got the feeling Frank has a VERY short temper. 

Melissa-Used to really hate her. Now I kinda like her. She's been there for her SIL and seems to have grown up. 

Not sure about pigtail girl but you'd think she could find a better hair color then Walgreens dye (on sale $7.99)

Theresa I have ALWAYS loved. Yes I am A 'tre hugger" She did her time, she paid her dues, she has a right to move on. If she divorces Joe it's because it's what best for her kids. She cares about them more than anything. There is never a "bad time" or an "inappropriate" time to face time with your crying child who just lost their Nona. NEVER! You take that call no matter what and that's what she did. Good for her. 

[lezlers]

On ‎10‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 10:01 PM, DakotaLavender said:

I am not sure if it was Dolores or Siggy, but wow, the tone when talking to the waiter and ordering coffee was so condescending and dismissive.  Get off your high horse, the world does not exist as your servant. 

Also, that Gorga juice flinging and the Teresa birthday cake throwing seemed spoiled and indulgent. 

It was Siggy.  I can't fucking STAND Siggy, but I didn't think she was rude when she was ordering coffee.  He was her waiter taking her order, she wasn't outwardly rude but she doesn't have to kiss his ass while asking for coffee, either.  Her grabbing that waiters ass at the restaurant the evening before was insanely inappropriate, though.   One hour of Siggy was more than I could bear.  I'm surprised she lets her husband boss her around like that.  For starters, she's overbearing herself, so it's weird seeing her take orders from someone else.  Secondly, she's clearly narcissistic, so I'm surprised she even gives a shit was her husband thinks.  Finally, how could she think to deprive the world of the most talented person on the planet 24/7? (gag)

I liked the premier.  I thought I was going to hate pigtails, but she seems pretty level headed so far.  I also always love drunk Melissa.  It's hard to find a nice, funny, happy drunk.  It's a nice change of pace after having to endure Angry Drunk Dorinda for a season.

On ‎10‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 10:10 PM, LydiaOhLydia said:

LOL @ the 2 nannies/cooks ducking down behind Joe Gorga's breakfast island while he "made pancaskes".  Ok don't rewind, I lied..but I'd bet he had 'help' around. 

A dry paper towel to clean up sticky orange juice on fabric seating..ugh.

I like the new gal, refreshing personality in the mix.

 Delores's EX  (cant recall his name) ... odd. She had the most curious explanation for why he returned to live with her and the kids. No wonder what the "ongoing argument they can't get over" is...betting infidelity cause that's just how the guy is.. so lovable in Delores's eyes.. PUKE.

I'm guessing the "ongoing argument" is how inappropriately close he is to Delores.  He basically still assumes the role of husband and father, despite being divorced for over a decade and being in separate mutual relationships with other people.  I don't care that the have kids together.  1. The kids are nearly grown and 2. You're divorced.  That means you're no longer married.  That means one of you doesn't still have control of the other's finances, you're not eating dinner together every other night, you're not overseeing remodels of the other's house, ect.   Their relationship is SO disrespectful to their mutual partners.  They're essentially still married, just without the sex.

[KungFuBunny]

The new lady - Margaret - to me so far she is okay. The upcoming clips show her and Siggy getting into it - that might make me really like her.

I don't like the ratty pigtails - but it might be her thing - better than Jackie's tutus.

Margaret does something really nice for Teresa - I'll post the clip on next week's thread

[MaggieG]

I'm so glad Jac is gone!!!

I really hope Teresa doesn't subject her father to more on camera conversations about her mother. The man is clearly heartbroken. Let him mourn in peace. I did laugh at him and Gia in the car. "Your daughter is blind!"

I don't mind Dolores, but I can't stand Siggy and her loudness. Why does she call her husband by his first and last name?

I liked Melissa imitating Teresa and then dancing. 

Looks like a lot of screaming and yelling and chair throwing for this season, so I'm in!

[Juliegirlj]

I agree, Mr Gorga is absolutely heartbroken and heartbreaking. Let him grieve in peace. I'm glad he is living with Teresa. He seems so lost. Often in situations like that, the surviving spouse does not live long after their beloved passes away. 

[swankie]

On ‎10‎/‎4‎/‎2017 at 10:21 PM, LilaFowler said:

Way too much Siggy. She is really full of herself.

Siggy is trying so hard to become the star of the show.  She has no idea how annoying her voice is.  And she really needs to get over herself. 

 

On ‎10‎/‎5‎/‎2017 at 9:24 AM, bichonblitz said:

Teresa's mothers passing away must have been quite a shock. Her dad has been in poor health for quite some time, I would have thought he would have been the first to go.  It's nice that he is moving in with Teresa. Say what you will about shady Tre and little bro Joe, but they do love their parents very much.  I wish I had a close family like that. 

These scenes really touched me.  Especially when Teresa's daughter called and was crying because she was missing her grandma.  I lost my dad last year and my kids still call and tell me that they miss PaPaw.  Damn, now I'm crying again!  :'(

[BrendasChoppers]

On 10/5/2017 at 6:24 AM, bichonblitz said:

Teresa's mothers passing away must have been quite a shock. Her dad has been in poor health for quite some time, I would have thought he would have been the first to go.  It's nice that he is moving in with Teresa. Say what you will about shady Tre and little bro Joe, but they do love their parents very much.  I wish I had a close family like that. 

Watching the episode, I was taken back to the raw open wounds we all felt when my grandmother unexpectedly died before my grandfather. They had prepared financially for him to go first and she would be comfortable and have a place to live with my uncle's family. When she went, he was gutted financially and spiritually, and a proud hard working man  had to declare bankruptcy.  He lasted another 6 months before his cancer finished him.  Watching Gorga Sr. wander aimlessly around the empty house while Tre and Joe were talking was the worst part for me. 

[BodhiGurl]

16 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

Oh God Siggy is obnoxious. I like Dolores, but Siggy is just intolerable.

I am thrilled that Jaqueline is gone.

Theresa's husband referred to her as a c--t on national t.v. while likely on the phone with his mistress.  It is very possible that she waited for the go-ahead from her parents to get a divorce, but she'll get no judgment from me if she pulls the plug on her marriage.

Kathy and Rosie enjoyed every minute of Theresa's legal troubles and said nothing when Richie repeatedly trashed Theresa.  

Theresa is a majorly flawed human being; however she still seems broken.  I enjoy seeing her and her brother get along as well as her and Melissa.  

Totally agree with all of this. In addition so far I’m ok with the new gal, Margaret. I hope that sentiment sticks because  always enjoy my krap tv a lot more when I can root for at least one of them. Friggen Siggy is exhausting. My sweet lawd the only way I can see that these women are fine around her is that none of them are introverts (which makes sense given how they’re all pretty much extroverted attention whores - I believe Dina is introverted as well as her sis Caroline, thus why they’re both long gone, they didn’t want to hang with the soul sucking energy vampires)... I couldn’t handle 5 minutes of Siggy, so freaking loud and me centered... yeesh.  

[nexxie]

16 hours ago, PerPlexied said:

Are they?! I guess if thirsty, let's-pretend-we've-been-best-friends-when-really-one-didn't-speak-to-the-other-because-she-was-gay, willing-to-throw-your-family-under-the-bus famewhores means more natural and likable, then okay. 

Tre, is that you?!

[ghoulina]

21 hours ago, nexxie said:

As long as she's queen bee, no problem - Kathy and Rosie threatened her fragile sense of self, without trying or even knowing it.

I think Melissa had a much bigger chance of upstaging Tre than drunk Rosie and boring Kathy. 

 

16 hours ago, AttackTurtle said:

Seriously I couldn't stand Kathy and her husband was unbearable.  Her daughter seemed sweet though.  Both Rosie & Kathy seemed desperate to be on t.v. to me.   

I liked Kathy and Rosie okay to begin with. And I'll never NOT like Rosie and Juicy Joe together. But as time went on, they both seemed to become really thirsty. And Richie Walkilie has got to be THE vilest man to ever grace a RH franchise, outside of Aviva's dad, George. Those two would actually probably get along. 

 

4 hours ago, MaggieG said:

but I can't stand Siggy and her loudness. Why does she call her husband by his first and last name?

I wondered that as well. Is he somewhat famous in his line or work or something? That people would know, and care, whom she's married to.