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Scarlett45

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19 minutes ago, galaxychaser said:

They look happy! 22 and celebrated her birthday with no alcohol. I barely drink but even I have a drink or 2 on my birthday.

I don’t drink alcohol at all so that doesn’t seem weird to me. 
 

I know it’s the middle of a pandemic but maybe Kendra got to do what she wanted on her birthday, and someone volunteered to watch the kids so she could have some “me time”. 

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Scarlett45

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3 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Other than their skewed beliefs Joe and Kendra seem like genuinely caring folks.

If I had to be in a remote cabin for a weekend with a Duggar couple, I would pick them.

Yeah I wouldn’t mind having to sit next to Joe & Kendra on a long haul flight (whenever we have those again), but without their kids. 

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Heathen

Heathen

2 hours ago, Scarlett45 said:

I don’t drink alcohol at all so that doesn’t seem weird to me. 
 

I know it’s the middle of a pandemic but maybe Kendra got to do what she wanted on her birthday, and someone volunteered to watch the kids so she could have some “me time”. 

I don't drink either, so it's normal for me. Not everybody drinks and not all teetotalers do so for religious reasons. <-- atheist 

Joe's jeans are rather un-Duggarly form-fitting. Maybe Kendra likes them that tight. She and Joe look like they could eat each other up. 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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On 8/12/2020 at 7:09 PM, Temperance said:

They both come from toxic fundie families. They probably have very screwed up beliefs. I distrust any fundies who make fundamentalism look good. 

 

Me, too. Unfortunately, they're the "bait' in the "bait and switch."

Come for the apparent (though super-bland) pleasantness, stay for the fire and brimstone.

Joe actually went to school to be a more successful proselytizer..... And we know what kind of motivation it takes for a Duggar to go to school....any school....

Though I still wonder whether he didn't really go for what turned out to be a fizzled opportunity to court.

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Heathen

Heathen

27 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Me, too. Unfortunately, they're the "bait' in the "bait and switch."

Come for the apparent (though super-bland) pleasantness, stay for the fire and brimstone.

Joe actually went to school to be a more successful proselytizer..... And we know what kind of motivation it takes for a Duggar to go to school....any school....

Though I still wonder whether he didn't really go for what turned out to be a fizzled opportunity to court.

I've always thought Joe moved to Tennessee for a Bates girl. Maybe both parties' maternal rivalry got in the way. 

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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24 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

The Duggars and their ilk don't possess magic, nor do they hide in plain sight well. I think the majority of folks who cross their paths are safe.

Safe in the long run, but proselytized like crazy in the short run!

I don't know about you, but I do know quite a few people who've spent some years in fundie-type churches or cults because of sweet-seeming proselytizing, though.

Most of that happened in youth and young adulthood, and most left after some years -- though with a bad taste in their mouths from the years of ridiculousness they went through and put their families through, in some cases. That's what I'm talking about.

If the sweet ones get somebody at a vulnerable moment, they can turn them into Gothardites or similar, at least temporarily. .... So I know they can be a kind of threat....They aren't just debating and discussing. They're really trying to win people over. And that can be a form of magic, if somebody's in the right frame of mind.

Many proselytizers do know how to proselytize -- or nobody would end up in Gothardland, Vision Forum, Scientology, etc., in the first place......And it's the sweet ones who are sent out to be the first face of the organization for those they hope to win.

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GeeGolly

GeeGolly

15 minutes ago, Churchhoney said:

Safe in the long run, but proselytized like crazy in the short run!

I don't know about you, but I do know quite a few people who've spent some years in fundie-type churches or cults because of sweet-seeming proselytizing, though.

Most of that happened in youth and young adulthood, and most left after some years -- though with a bad taste in their mouths from the years of ridiculousness they went through and put their families through, in some cases. That's what I'm talking about.

If the sweet ones get somebody at a vulnerable moment, they can turn them into Gothardites or similar, at least temporarily. .... So I know they can be a kind of threat....They aren't just debating and discussing. They're really trying to win people over. And that can be a form of magic, if somebody's in the right frame of mind.

Many proselytizers do know how to proselytize -- or nobody would end up in Gothardland, Vision Forum, Scientology, etc., in the first place......And it's the sweet ones who are sent out to be the first face of the organization for those they hope to win.

Yup, I get that. And like you said they have competition from other groups as well. There's also drugs and other types of predators out there too. But in the scheme of things, its really isn't a big bad scary world out there that we have no control over and no support.

If we go that route, we start to sound like Duggars. lol

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Churchhoney

Churchhoney

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55 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Yup, I get that. And like you said they have competition from other groups as well. There's also drugs and other types of predators out there too. But in the scheme of things, its really isn't a big bad scary world out there that we have no control over and no support.

If we go that route, we start to sound like Duggars. lol

You just have to avoid jumping on anybody's bandwagon, no matter how sweet and tempting it seems, when you're in an especially vulnerable state. Too bad that's way easier said than done, in some cases! 

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Minivanessa

11 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

Oh my goodness, I think we've found the 'winner'. In February Kendra will be 22 with 3 kids, 2 and under. If Joe and Kendra keep going at this rate they'll reach 20 kids with no problem.

Yep. Unlike her slacker sisters-in-law (Duggar daughters and Duggar DILs), Kendra understands her mission, and she's well on her way to pumping out as many babies for Jesus as Saint Michelle. Or should I say, nearly as many babies? Because somehow I think that the worst sin one could commit in Duggarland would be to upstage Saint ("and I delivered every one!!") Michelle.

Did Kendra ever fuck around with the Duggar Amateur Hour DIY with Jesus Homebirthing Plan™? Or has she pretty much skipped that nonsense and had her babies in a hospital, under real medical care? If so, that bodes well for her continued ability to deliver healthy babies. 

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Ljohnson1987

1 minute ago, Jeeves said:

Did Kendra ever fuck around with the Duggar Amateur Hour DIY with Jesus Homebirthing Plan™? Or has she pretty much skipped that nonsense and had her babies in a hospital, under real medical care? If so, that bodes well for her continued ability to deliver healthy babies. 

No. Kendra has had two hospital births so far.  She's definitely in the running to beat her  in-law's.  Also, how can she say they weren't expecting a pregnancy this soon? Is she breast feeding? Does she think that's a 100% effective form of BC? Oh, sweet, naive Kendra.  Maybe get off of your husband, and read a book about birth control. 

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libgirl2

1 minute ago, crazy8s said:

I think this thread needs a new name - something like "Joe and Kendra so far beyond the side hugs... "

I thought that too.

I mentioned elsewhere that if by choice or not Derick and Jill have no more children,  at least those boys aren't just another number, moved to the side with the next blessing. Despite their beliefs, at least they have a chance to spend time with their parents and be kids, not just a mini parent. 

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Ohiopirate02

Ohiopirate02

I read the article and saw the pictures, and I have questions.  WTF is Kendra wearing?  There is so much fabric it looks like she is a little girl playing dress up with a California king-sized sheet.  Which is a choice when announcing you are pregnant with your 3rd child.  

Also, life is full of surprises??  They had unprotected sex and she got pregnant, again.  Did they expect a different outcome?  

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WhyAmIHere

WhyAmIHere

1 hour ago, Tikichick said:

I feel like we can't see it yet, but we're watching all of the vitality drain out of that girl.

I feel the same.  I figured this announcement was coming, but it still made me sad.  Kendra has such a sweet nature and unlike many of the Duggars actually seems to have a kind heart.  If they were to stop having kids here (or even after 4 or 5), I wouldn't be as concerned about her.  But we all know that isn't going to happen.  

In the episode where the guys put together a "spa day" for the women, Austin mentioned to Joe & Ben (I think they were the other two there) how hard it must be for their wives to take care of kids all day.  But none of them ever seem to consider that they don't have to take this route of having enormous broods of kids and having them every other year (or faster).  I find their entire existence very sad and frustrating because it doesn't have to be this way.   

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Ohiopirate02

Ohiopirate02

1 hour ago, galaxychaser said:

I just hope Kendra doesn’t channel Andrea Yates. It’s just sad. Her sole purpose in life is to have kids. That’s it.

No school, job, travel, having hobbies... nothing. Just a baby machine.

I see no signs that Kendra suffers from severe mental illness like Andrea, and none of the Duggars or Duggar sons-in-law are abusive assholes like Rusty; so, I don't see Kendra channeling Andrea Yates ever.  

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4 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I see no signs that Kendra suffers from severe mental illness like Andrea, and none of the Duggars or Duggar sons-in-law are abusive assholes like Rusty; so, I don't see Kendra channeling Andrea Yates ever.  

When Kendra had Garrett and she found out she was expecting she did say then she was overwhelmed, (I think at the thought of two kids under two) now she’s got two kids and another on the way, I wonder what’s that like for her. Not saying she’ll be like Andrea Yates but I wouldn’t be surprised if she had some kinda breakdown.

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Scarlett45

Scarlett45

I’m not surprised. They are both young and healthy and sexually attracted to each other not using contraceptives. Kendra could easily hit Michelle or Kelly Bates numbers- Kelly didn’t have any twins. 


Kendra seems sweet matured and pleasant but this is going to wear her out. Let’s see if she keeps that sweet spirit at 40. 

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Dimi1

Dimi1

30 minutes ago, Ohiopirate02 said:

I see no signs that Kendra suffers from severe mental illness like Andrea, and none of the Duggars or Duggar sons-in-law are abusive assholes like Rusty; so, I don't see Kendra channeling Andrea Yates ever.  

I work with a group who counsel  women  in "particular religions" who suffer from PPD and in some cases psychosis ..it takes ...taking to the bed in utter and complete depression before husbands help the wives.-the women  literally have to stop functioning....and the help is sought  only if the husband really loves the wife...the last women  I worked with  laid on the floor, prostrate , grief stricken and at times incoherent   at the back of the room ...and really did not receive what she needed while at the program...it was only after her husband agreed--no more kids that she let go of the fear...Fear of being in that situation again (pregnant)....it really takes a network of women in their peer group and caring husbands for the stigma to break...and some do not make it..many in certain "communities" take their own life....

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