Josh & Anna Smuggar: A Series of Unfortunate Events

[SMama]

I remember that wonderful adventure when a deer blindsided us and destroyed the side of our van. Or when I was in surgery and the doctors were certain I would not make it. At the same time my husband was having the wonderful adventure of holding our sleeping two year old, while scared out of his mind. Such fake, fucking stupid morons. ??

Redeem away Anna, keep putting lipstick on that pig you call husband. 

[Temperance]

Anna is wearing the same dress that Michelle wore to Si and Lauren's wedding!! She previously wore the same maternity dress as Joy when they were both pregnant. Do these people seem to buy multiple dresses of the exact same thing and pass them to the family? Or they buy clothes in two sizes (such as L and XL), keep the size that works the best, and give the other one to a relative?

[Readalot]

Interesting that the People article that covers their 10 year anniversary does not specifically mention the molestations nor the infidelity. https://people.com/tv/anna-duggar-past-10-years-wonderful-adventure-husband-josh/

[magpye29]

That Josie has a mouthful of freaky teeth.

[louannems]

All I could think of during Josie's singing was, yet again, Jordyn and Jennifer are non-existent, ignored, and shoved out of Michelle's existence.  

[Spencer Hastings]

Wonderful adventure? Oh, honey....

Anna is just one of those people I can’t help but feel sorry for.  My brain knows that she made all of the choices that got her to where she is, but I also think she lacks the personality traits and critical thinking skills that it would take to just leave that tool. She’s got a stronger personality than Priscilla, but she sure drank the rest of the Kool-aid before Suze could partake. 

[Ohiopirate02]

4 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Wonderful adventure? Oh, honey....

Anna is just one of those people I can’t help but feel sorry for.  My brain knows that she made all of the choices that got her to where she is, but I also think she lacks the personality traits and critical thinking skills that it would take to just leave that tool. She’s got a stronger personality than Priscilla, but she sure drank the rest of the Kool-aid before Suze could partake. 

I also cannot help but feel sorry for Anna.  She made what she thought were the right choices based on how her parents raised her. 

[graefin]

5 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

She’s got a stronger personality than Priscilla, but she sure drank the rest of the Kool-aid before Suze could partake. 

I think Suz drank it and then spit it back out again when she didn't like the taste. 

[Minivanessa]

She's "celebrating" the 10th anniversary of their engagement. Engagement. Not marriage. 

Does anybody except the couple themselves, give a rat's arse about the engagement date? IMO it's pathetic and childish that a woman married this long makes a big deal out of the day she and the hubs got engaged. 

ETA: I don't think there's anything wrong with privately enjoying the "anniversary of our engagement" if you're so inclined, but putting it out there on public social media is just - stupid.

Edited July 6, 2018 by Jeeves
clarity re private vs. public celebrations

[irisheyes]

30 minutes ago, Jeeves said:

She's "celebrating" the 10th anniversary of their engagement. Engagement. Not marriage. 

Does anybody except the couple themselves, give a rat's arse about the engagement date? IMO it's pathetic and childish that a woman married this long makes a big deal out of the day she and the hubs got engaged. 

ETA: I don't think there's anything wrong with privately enjoying the "anniversary of our engagement" if you're so inclined, but putting it out there on public social media is just - stupid.

Ours was in September(?).  I couldn’t tell you the date if I tried. I mean, I guess engagements are more important in their world, since it’s like a Biblical betrothal where you’re 99% married.  

[satrunrose]

I can kind of see pointing out their 10th engagement anniversary if they were a more typical couple who were engaged for a year or two before the wedding and wanted an excuse to party early. It's still be eye-roll worthy, but I can see it. The thing is, Duggar/Gothard engagements last all of three months, so what on earth is the point of celebrating now and not on their actual anniversary?

[Mollie]

5 minutes ago, irisheyes said:

Ours was in September(?).  I couldn’t tell you the date if I tried. I mean, I guess engagements are more important in their world, since it’s like a Biblical betrothal where you’re 99% married.  

Anna and Josh were engaged on Anna's 20th birthday, so that is why it is easy for them to remember.  Her father made them wait until Anna was 20.  By the way, this year's birthday/anniversary was Anna's 30th birthday.  She'll probably have five more kids by the time she is 40.

[tabloidlover]

I’ll never be able to celebrate this very speshul  occasion  as I couldn’t tell you the date Mr T proposed.    Do I go to hell or the prayer closet for that?

[BitterApple]

2 hours ago, tabloidlover said:

I’ll never be able to celebrate this very speshul  occasion  as I couldn’t tell you the date Mr T proposed.    Do I go to hell or the prayer closet for that?

I couldn't either. I guess if it's on a birthday or holiday that makes it easier to remember, but it seems weird to publicly celebrate your engagement date. Or at least my personal experience is that couples tend to only celebrate their wedding anniversary. I probably should give Anna a pass, though. If I were married to Smuggar, I'd be grasping at straws as well.

Edited July 6, 2018 by BitterApple

[fonfereksglen]

17 hours ago, Catlyn said:

He looks like the Disney actor that played younger brothers and Toby Tyler on Disney's Wonderful World of Color.

Kevin Corcoran...Corky?

[madpsych78]

Heh, I only remember the date I got engaged because it was the night the White Sox won the World Series. October 27, 2005.

ETA: Hubby and I are Cubs fans.

Edited July 6, 2018 by madpsych78

[Natalie68]

13 hours ago, louannems said:

All I could think of during Josie's singing was, yet again, Jordyn and Jennifer are non-existent, ignored, and shoved out of Michelle's existence.  

That is the one thing that kept popping into my mind about Josie and her singing.  What have they done for Jordyn and Jennifer that is similar and is just them as an individual?  Perhaps they would like an opportunity to show off one of their talents.

10 hours ago, Spencer Hastings said:

Wonderful adventure? Oh, honey....

Anna is just one of those people I can’t help but feel sorry for.  My brain knows that she made all of the choices that got her to where she is, but I also think she lacks the personality traits and critical thinking skills that it would take to just leave that tool. She’s got a stronger personality than Priscilla, but she sure drank the rest of the Kool-aid before Suze could partake. 

I wish I could be so kind and pity her.  She knows his game and still is with him.  He has shit on their marriage, hurt his sisters and there she is talking about a wonderful adventure.  I could forgive an Ashley Madison thing (after a lot of time) but I could not and would not ever get over finding out my husband and father to my kids sexually abused his sisters.  No way, no how.

[xwordfanatik]

9 hours ago, Jeeves said:

She's "celebrating" the 10th anniversary of their engagement. Engagement. Not marriage. 

Does anybody except the couple themselves, give a rat's arse about the engagement date? IMO it's pathetic and childish that a woman married this long makes a big deal out of the day she and the hubs got engaged. 

ETA: I don't think there's anything wrong with privately enjoying the "anniversary of our engagement" if you're so inclined, but putting it out there on public social media is just - stupid.

I should be ashamed.  I didn't even write down the date Mr. Xword and I got engaged.  Of course, it was over 40 years ago, and I didn't keep a diary.

Honestly, if one has to document every moment of one's life, how does one find time to live their life?  I know, I'm old and out of touch.

[xwordfanatik]

Now that I know I'm not the only one not to remember my engagement date, I feel better!

I learn a lot on these forums.  It's fun and informative too.  

[sixlets]

I only remember ours since it was our two year anniversary.  We had a 4 1/2 year engagement, which the Duggs would faint at.  It turns out, all that stuff you can do while you're married, you can actually do *before* you get married.  It's not like there's an access code for a va-jay-jay.  

[Jynnan tonnix]

6 hours ago, madpsych78 said:

Heh, I only remember the date I got engaged because it was the night the White Sox won the World Series. October 27, 2005.

ETA: Hubby and I are Cubs fans.

I remember mine because we set the wedding date for a year afterwards. Minus a day, as we got engaged Saturday Jan 26, 1984, and got married on the corresponding Saturday (1/27/1985).  I did realize all things were not as romantic as they might first appear on our first anniversary, though...That fell on Superbowl Sunday and Mr. Jyn wanted nothing to do with going out to dinner. We had to do brunch instead.

[JoanArc]

1 hour ago, sixlets said:

It's not like there's an access code for a va-jay-jay.  

Va-hey-hey-hey?

[Sew Sumi]

32 minutes ago, JoanArc said:

Va-hey-hey-hey?

*runs for the exit*

[ElenaFR]

13 hours ago, xwordfanatik said:

Now that I know I'm not the only one not to remember my engagement date, I feel better!

I learn a lot on these forums.  It's fun and informative too.  

I only remember mine when I look inside my engagement ring.

[xwordfanatik]

1 hour ago, ElenaFR said:

I only remember mine when I look inside my engagement ring.

Coulda, woulda, shoulda done that!  I only remember the month.

[lulu69]

On 7/6/2018 at 10:06 AM, Jeeves said:

She's "celebrating" the 10th anniversary of their engagement. Engagement. Not marriage. 

Does anybody except the couple themselves, give a rat's arse about the engagement date? IMO it's pathetic and childish that a woman married this long makes a big deal out of the day she and the hubs got engaged. 

ETA: I don't think there's anything wrong with privately enjoying the "anniversary of our engagement" if you're so inclined, but putting it out there on public social media is just - stupid.

I suppose when you're stuck with someone like Smuggar you want credit & God points for every single second you've endured. 

[mimionthebeach]

On 2018-07-05 at 7:45 PM, BitterApple said:

Josh and Anna have both dropped a lot of weight. 

I feel bad for the kid who's birthday cake consisted of candles stuck in a tub of ice cream.

Hey, that is PREMIUM ice cream. Although, cappuccino seems a strange flavour to be a kid's "birthday cake".

On 2018-07-06 at 10:37 AM, irisheyes said:

Ours was in September(?).  I couldn’t tell you the date if I tried. I mean, I guess engagements are more important in their world, since it’s like a Biblical betrothal where you’re 99% married.  

That only leaves 1% for sex. Hey, hey, hey, that can't be right. 

[GeeGolly]

My husband's and my engagement was over time. He was way more interested in being married than I was. I was totally committed to spending my life with him, however the marriage part wasn't that important to me. I have no idea when the conversations began and no idea when he put the ring on my finger. I guess it doesn't matter either way, we're still together some 35+ years later.

Edited July 8, 2018 by GeeGolly

[Heathen]

Ofsmuggar got engaged on her birthday. It's easy for her to remember. 

I remember important dates, so it wouldn't be unusual for me to remember whether it was my birthday or not. 

[lookeyloo]

39 minutes ago, GeeGolly said:

My husband's and my engagement was over time. He was way more interested in being married than I was. I was totally committed to spending my life with him, however the marriage part wasn't that important to me. I have no idea when the conversations began and no idea when he put the ring on my finger. I guess it doesn't matter either way, we're still together some 35+ years later.

That is our very same story. Mr lookeyloo said if we didn't get married it would be a dead end relationship.  Next month it will be 36 years.  

[GeeGolly]

If Facebook is still around in 30 years, and my feed is any indication of how often these events are posted, this generation will have no problem remembering. FB will remind them.

[Nysha]

4 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

If Facebook is still around in 30 years, and my feed is any indication of how often these events are posted, this generation will have no problem remembering. FB will remind them.

My evening has been a major suck hole, but this made me laugh for a good long time. 

[ginger90]

[BitterApple]

Aww, Mere is so cute!

She looks so clean and well cared for compared to the Littles.

[3 is enough]

I remember the date I got engaged because it is the same date as my wedding anniversary.  It was a Thursday, and the next year was a leap year so it fell on a Saturday for the wedding.

But yeah, if Anna got engaged on her birthday it would not be hard to forget.  Although I would imagine there have been plenty of times in the last 3 years that she wishes she COULD forget...

[ginger90]

[mzskyhawk00]

On 7/6/2018 at 7:25 PM, sixlets said:

It's not like there's an access code for a va-jay-jay.  

Saying I Do and becoming a grifter?

[Soaper410]

OfSmuggar is possibly the very best snark name of anybody ever!

I would guess Meredith and Anna have a very special bond as Anna basically had Josh’s pedophile behavior come out while pregnant (I never brought that Anna knew about the previous stuff) and Josh is paying to have sex with women online when Mere was an infant....Jana was probably taking care of the older three while Anna was breastfeeding 

Edited July 25, 2018 by Soaper410

[Lunera]

People are going in hard at Anna for this tweet:

[MargeGunderson]

I should hope people are calling Anna (and the original poster) on their ignorance and ridiculous conspiracy theory. 

[awaken]

I saw that and was dumbfounded. She acts sweet but she’s just like the rest of them. 

[McManda]

I suppose Anna has the moral authority to preach how she's godly, right? I mean, she's stuck having Josh's kids and if she can do that, no one should ever choose to terminate.

(No disrespect toward the Ms. Even though Josh is basically awful and while I wouldn't want to be married to him or have his kids, the Ms look clean and cute and well cared for. I just hope Anna realizes she's gotten lucky with what she has and stops trying to breed an army for Jesus. And that the brother that offered space to Anna if she left Josh takes all the Ms and teaches them about mainstream life.)

[Annb67]

Hey Anna just curious, do you show more disdain for child molesters?

[BitterApple]

You'd think Anna wouldn't touch a hot-button issue with a ten-foot pole given who she's married to. 

[MargeGunderson]

But it was Satan's fault and it was only over the clothes and Jesus fixed him! Until the Ashley Madison thing, of course. Satan gets around.

[lookeyloo]

On 7/8/2018 at 5:41 PM, GeeGolly said:

My husband's and my engagement was over time. He was way more interested in being married than I was. I was totally committed to spending my life with him, however the marriage part wasn't that important to me. I have no idea when the conversations began and no idea when he put the ring on my finger. I guess it doesn't matter either way, we're still together some 35+ years later.

That is our story too!  This month it is 36 years. 

[jennblevins]

I had a dream last night that Anna dumped Josh, took the M-kids, and became a stunt motorcycle driver in the sort of motor show that happens Sunday, Sunday, SUNDAY! in the second-tier arena on the outskirts of town. She said it was okay with their God because she was still wearing a skirt while doing it. 

I really shouldn’t eat curry for dinner if I’m not able to eat until 10pm. 

[toodles]

12 hours ago, Lunera said:

People are going in hard at Anna for this tweet:

what the???  Shame on the lot of them.  I hope Anna is catching some major blow back for this.

[libgirl2]

1 hour ago, toodles said:

what the???  Shame on the lot of them.  I hope Anna is catching some major blow back for this.

I agree. Things like this are just out there to stir up trouble, hate and division. Sorry not a Christian Tweet and shame on her for sharing it. Go back to your sleazeball husband.  

[whydoiwatch]

10 hours ago, BitterApple said:

You'd think Anna wouldn't touch a hot-button issue with a ten-foot pole given who she's married to. 

Yes, you'd think...but Anna has shown herself to be arrogant and ignorant. She can chirp all she wants about having an army of kids, fact is she is married to Chester the Molester and there is no justification for making babies with the loser. Anna said herself she knew all about Smuggar violating 4 of his sisters and another girl before she married him. She even went so far as to say there were no surprises in the released police report. Anna has shown clearly who she is and her support of that ridiculous tweet doesn't surprise me.

Edited August 8, 2018 by whydoiwatch
oops, typo