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DragonFaerie

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2 hours ago, Heathen said:

You know the bar is set low when "regularly uses soap" is considered praiseworthy. We should set up a system -- everyone's base score is ten, and s/he gets points for each act of hygiene: +1 for uses soap, +2 for hair appears clean and combed, +3 for no pit stains, and so on. We take points off for obvious hygienic sins: Jilly's ratty hair gets her -3, Smuggar's grease gets him -4. 

+4 for proper fitting clothing.  Can Smugger get a -3 for every time he wears Crocs and another -3 for not wearing a bro bra

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Tough crowd!  She's wearing modern shoes with closed toes, pants, and a shirt that literally calls back to her family's ridiculous rules and there are still 35 things wrong with what she's doing. 

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JoanArc

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15 hours ago, GeeGolly said:

I read a brief article a while back that a vanity scan place wasn't even really doing scans. They were showing like a test scan or something and every woman saw the same 'scan' and left the place with the same photos. Hmmm, maybe it was owned by Duggar Studios.

Don't give them ideas. All it'll take is a couple neurons connecting for Jill to open one of these places. She'd be a natural 'entertainment' fetus expert.

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lascuba

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I'm assuming that Jinger is getting real medical care and plans on a hospital birth (unless, of course, Jeremy said something about how nice a crunchy homebirth would be...then she's probably using people like Jill and Vanessa), so the sex is accurate. But I'm going to laugh myself sick if they learned the sex through the boutique ultrasound place and it turns out to be a boy.

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14 hours ago, DragonFaerie said:

Nope, not in the least.  I can't stand it when guys wear product in their hair and then just comb it over like that - to me, it makes it look dirty and greasy.  Now if they put product in it and do something funky or spiky - that's fine with me.  I also tend to like longer hair on men than he has, although there are a few with short hair that make me sigh (Beckham, to mention one).  I don't really care regarding facial hair either way, it depends on the guy, although I think Jeremy looked a TON better with a beard.  Personally he reminds me of an ex I had a long time ago - same coloring, beard, hair, etc - that ex turned out to be controlling and emotionally and eventually physically abusive which is why he's an ex.  

Agree.  Jeremy has the benefit of not only distance but living away in the sports world for a tiny bit.  Ben seems pretty happy to let Jessa take the reins, except for relegating his playstation to the closet.  Derelict has already started snapping; Austin I can see snapping when he realizes how immature Joy truly is, and Josh is gonna snap at some point because he's not going to be able to live without his porn and other issues.

He is pretty dreamy looking but then he speaks and it all goes away (for me).  His voice doesn't match that look!

By the looks of that robust/curvy/stout/barrel chested pic of Josh I would say he is thisclose to some sort of cardiac episode.  I am not sure that one will have a long life.  He looks so very unhealthy.  Now it could be that Texas was hot as balls the day that pic was taken but he looked terrible.

2 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Don't give them ideas. All it'll take is a couple neurons connecting for Jill to open one of these places. She'd be a natural 'entertainment' fetus expert.

But they would buy the equipment used, save the difference and it will end up like that movie Last Holiday where the machine has some anomaly so every scan makes them look like they have a heinous disease.

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JoanArc

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1 hour ago, Natalie68 said:

But they would buy the equipment used, save the difference and it will end up like that movie Last Holiday where the machine has some anomaly so every scan makes them look like they have a heinous disease.

The cheap ones are fairly inexpensive, and would be cheap used. Given her medical knowledge, Jill would probably scan the head and ignore the uterus.

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2 hours ago, Natalie68 said:

He is pretty dreamy looking but then he speaks and it all goes away (for me).  His voice doesn't match that look!

By the looks of that robust/curvy/stout/barrel chested pic of Josh I would say he is thisclose to some sort of cardiac episode.  I am not sure that one will have a long life.  He looks so very unhealthy.  Now it could be that Texas was hot as balls the day that pic was taken but he looked terrible.

But they would buy the equipment used, save the difference and it will end up like that movie Last Holiday where the machine has some anomaly so every scan makes them look like they have a heinous disease.

No, he just looks terrible. 

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doodlebug

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1 hour ago, JoanArc said:

The cheap ones are fairly inexpensive, and would be cheap used. Given her medical knowledge, Jill would probably scan the head and ignore the uterus.

Last I looked, a new 3-D scanner, was running into 6 figures easily.  If Jill was going to open a vanity scanning center, she'd have to get a 3-D machine.

You can buy a cheap, all purpose, portable scanner used for around 10 grand maybe; but if you want any of the attachments to do fancy stuff, they cost several thousand bucks apiece at minimum.  Once again, a used 3-D machine is going to be maybe 50-75 thousand bucks for a decent one that will take good photos and make DVD's and such.

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questionfear

questionfear

1 hour ago, doodlebug said:

Last I looked, a new 3-D scanner, was running into 6 figures easily.  If Jill was going to open a vanity scanning center, she'd have to get a 3-D machine.

You can buy a cheap, all purpose, portable scanner used for around 10 grand maybe; but if you want any of the attachments to do fancy stuff, they cost several thousand bucks apiece at minimum.  Once again, a used 3-D machine is going to be maybe 50-75 thousand bucks for a decent one that will take good photos and make DVD's and such.

Since JB won't do debt this might not be an issue, but if they did need to get a loan to open a business would they need to carry insurance in case of bad diagnoses/jill giving someone a 3D ultrasound of their left knee and saying the baby looks great?

Absolom

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7 minutes ago, questionfear said:

Since JB won't do debt this might not be an issue, but if they did need to get a loan to open a business would they need to carry insurance in case of bad diagnoses/jill giving someone a 3D ultrasound of their left knee and saying the baby looks great?

No because unless/until Jill goes to school to become a licensed technician, all they could operate is one of the entertainment ultrasound places that if they have sense all have major disclaimers that this is for entertainment purposes only and they are NOT providing any medical service.  If the entertainment places miss the actual sex of the child, they have the very simple remedy of returning the customer's money or offering them a deluxe package free of a later in pregnancy ultrasound.  It's all there in the forms before a person gets one of the non-medical ultrasounds.

Normades

Normades

Just wondering on the vanity scans, didn't Jill Rodrigues (under Sweet Fellowship thread) have hers done that way? Her child's problems were found on a scan. If it was a vanity place, it would indicate that at least some of them will notify the mother and send her to a doctor to have suspected issues checked out.  

doodlebug

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3 minutes ago, questionfear said:

Since JB won't do debt this might not be an issue, but if they did need to get a loan to open a business would they need to carry insurance in case of bad diagnoses/jill giving someone a 3D ultrasound of their left knee and saying the baby looks great?

The vanity ultrasound stores are very, very careful to tell people that they do not provide diagnosis of any sort and the techs are specifically cautioned against calling anything 'normal'.  As I said before, most have the clients sign a waiver stating that it is purely for entertainment and there is no medical information obtained or any medical opinion rendered.  I'm sure it also reminds them that gender scans are correct 98% of the time and makes no guarantees on that.

As far as Jill, or anyone like her, being sued for malpractice, it virtually never happens.  Why?  Because they DON'T have insurance.  Jill doesn't own a house, there's no evidence that she has any major assets.  This is what protects most lay midwives and lets them keep on working.  Not only does she not have a licensure board checking up on her, or a hospital where she practices keeping track of anything fishy she might be doing; if she does mess up and harm somebody, there is almost nothing anyone can do about it.  The way malpractice works is that you need a malpractice attorney to take the case and file the suit.  When someone goes to an attorney seeking to file a malpractice claim, the first thing the attorney does is check out the potential defendant.  If the birth didn't take place in a hospital, there goes one huge source of potential cash.  If the practitioner is an unlicensed, uninsured amateur with minimal assets; it is all over.  It doesn't matter how much Jim Bob has and whether any portion of that is 'really' Jill's.  While the malpractice lawyers advertise by claiming that they don't charge their clients unless they are able to recover damages; the flip side is that they don't file cases where there isn't a significant amount of booty available.  Jill and Vanessa and the rest of their slimy breed don't worry about malpractice, not because they are that good at what they do, but because they know that no lawyer is going to bother coming after them.

4 minutes ago, Normades said:

Just wondering on the vanity scans, didn't Jill Rodrigues (under Sweet Fellowship thread) have hers done that way? Her child's problems were found on a scan. If it was a vanity place, it would indicate that at least some of them will notify the mother and send her to a doctor to have suspected issues checked out.  

Jill may have had a vanity scan, but she very clearly stated on her blog that the problems were seen during a routine medical ultrasound ordered by her doctor.

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ginger90

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From Jinger and Jeremy’s page:

 

We are so thankful to have so many in our family who are already parents with little ones! Jessa has been a huge help and has given such great parenting advice. We are so thankful for all the insights and little tidbits we are getting from our family members!

 

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https://t.co/ikq74aja2n?amp=1 

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15 hours ago, JoanArc said:

Don't give them ideas. All it'll take is a couple neurons connecting for Jill to open one of these places. She'd be a natural 'entertainment' fetus expert.

If it would get Jill out of the midwife business, I'm all for it. It would be a real job with a very low chance of her natural ineptness accidentally killing someone. 

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fonfereksglen

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25 minutes ago, floridamom said:

I don't know why these families always refer to "little ones" or 'kid(s)". Why are they afraid of the words " baby" and  "child(ren)? " That bothers me.

Kids is a commonly used term for children which originated from German and other northern European words for child.  Growing up in a predominately German community attending a German kirche, it would have been unusual to hear child rather than kid. Regional word usage is very interesting.

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Normades

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13 minutes ago, fonfereksglen said:

Kids is a commonly used term for children which originated from German and other northern European words for child.  Growing up in a predominately German community attending a German kirche, it would have been unusual to hear child rather than kid. Regional word usage is very interesting.

It's funny, my very southern grandpa always hated the use of kids instead of children.  I find myself leaning toward that preference as well.  He always would say, "kids are goats!"

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Jynnan tonnix

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1 hour ago, DragonFaerie said:

As an Aunt of 4 teens and a pre teen - I use kids - they literally get their hackles up if I say children  LOL

"Children" just sounds a bit formal and archaic to my ear. And I'm old enough to have gotten the "kids are baby goats!" thing as well. "Kids" was considered a bit coarse and unrefined when I was growing up, but I don't think I even know anyone who uses "children" anymore. Maybe there are areas where it is more common, but we have lived in a lot of different places and I don't recall it ever being the preferred word. 

Maybe that's why alternates such as "kiddos" and "littles" are becoming more common. Since "kids" seems to be used almost  exclusively yet still retains a slight air of vulgarity (in the sense of commonness), people want a softer term without sounding old-fashioned.

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12 hours ago, floridamom said:

I don't know why these families always refer to "little ones" or 'kid(s)". Why are they afraid of the words " baby" and  "child(ren)? " That bothers me.

Some people I know think children and particularly child sound cold. I don't, but my mama always managed to convey affection when she said child(ren).

As for babies versus little ones, I think with Michelle's track record that baby would be thought of as the youngest one and maybe only if they're under one. Like Jinger was the baby, but Jessa (1), Jill (2&1/2) and Jinger would be little ones, if that makes sense. They could use the word toddlers/tots, but tots sounds dated. I know my fundie-lite friends only use baby to describe the youngest as mentioned earlier. 

10 hours ago, Jynnan tonnix said:

"Children" just sounds a bit formal and archaic to my ear. And I'm old enough to have gotten the "kids are baby goats!" thing as well. "Kids" was considered a bit coarse and unrefined when I was growing up, but I don't think I even know anyone who uses "children" anymore. Maybe there are areas where it is more common, but we have lived in a lot of different places and I don't recall it ever being the preferred word. 

Maybe that's why alternates such as "kiddos" and "littles" are becoming more common. Since "kids" seems to be used almost  exclusively yet still retains a slight air of vulgarity (in the sense of commonness), people want a softer term without sounding old-fashioned.

This sounds right. 

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20 hours ago, RedheadZombie said:

For a change, how about Jingle looking at the camera and Babe gazing at her in adoration.

Reason #98345873645 I will never be on board with those two. The fact that neither of them think twice about posting picture after picture of her gazing at him idiotically-adoringly while he smiles normally at the camera would tell me everything I needed to know about them and their marriage if I didn't know anything else. 

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