S11.E16: Threats and Promises

[RoseAllDay]

5 minutes ago, StevieRocks said:

How do these clod-hopping, unsophisticated, backwards-ass rubes not even know what a conch is?! 

These types of dinners are totally wasted on Howives. It’s like their palates only extend to grilled cheese. If they’re not turning up their lips and noses at it, spitting in their napkins, or gagging, they’re fighting and not eating.

I give Garcelle props for making an effort. Everything looked lovely. And yeah, these world travelers should know what conch is, unless they were thrown off by the correct pronunciation. 

[Boo Boo]

On 9/8/2021 at 10:09 PM, Talented Tenth said:

It doesn't matter what anyone else thinks or believes because the truth is that they don't know what she knew.  I think Sutton saw the fan reaction as things were coming out and decided to make her mark (work hard for a diamond) by going after Erika . I can't stand her.

You realize these are filmed far in advance and therefore she would have no idea what fan reaction would be?

[Blondie]

I took the dog out to potty and was chit chatting with a neighbor.  When I came back inside the show was on and hubby sound asleep in the recliner.  The scene cut to Rinna and there she was with her mullet.  Yes, I said mullet! good Lord that is the most hideous style on her. 

Some of these women dress and look like they are on some really potent drugs and have no idea of "fashion" other than what they see twenty somethings wearing while they strut down a runway.

I turned the TV off and left the room.  No point in watching that crap.

BTW, whether guilty or innocent Erika is still a damaged person who needs anger management.  She is not a victim.  She is a bully.  Even though this is a show, I would caution these women about associating with her and defending her.    But hey, if they are that stupid they deserve the reputation of hanging out with grifters, liars, con men and women.   If you lay down with dogs you'll wake up with fleas. 

[Pondlass1]

1 hour ago, RoseAllDay said:

am getting tired of Bravo turning a blind eye to aggressive, threatening crap like this.

Me too.
“When this is over I’m coming for you”.  It’s an outright threat.  I realize Bravo is loving the ratings and attention, but come on!  This kind of behaviour is wrong. She wasn’t drunk or crazy reacting in a rage, she was stone cold sober and menacing.  I don’t want Erika on my screen again.

None of them had your back, Sutton but you stood up to her. You’re my hero. 

 

[Boo Boo]

On 9/9/2021 at 10:53 AM, eleanorofaquitaine said:

I didn't say she doesn't deserve criticism. IMO, she does. I don't like her defense of Erika, which I think mostly comes from the fact that Chrystal had conflict with Sutton earlier in the season and from the fact that right now most of the other women are sticking with Erika. But I do think she's very much a minor player in all of it, and as such, I think some of the focus on her is a bit overstated. But that doesn't mean that I think she's right to defend Erika. She isn't, IMO. 

If she's defending a woman who profited off widows and orphans because Sutton is awkward, that's really petty.

Edited September 10, 2021 by Boo Boo

[Boo Boo]

I'm not the only one that saw Kyle's hair don't and could only see this, right?

 

[JD5166]

6 hours ago, Kiki777 said:

I do believe that Erika said something even worse to Sutton - and it was so vile they couldn’t air it.

Oh come on Sutton! We NEED TO KNOW!!! 

[Wicked]

Sutton doesn't have to worry about Erika suing her, she can afford much better lawyers

 

[Slakkie]

44 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

Me too.
“When this is over I’m coming for you”.  It’s an outright threat.  I realize Bravo is loving the ratings and attention, but come on!  This kind of behaviour is wrong. She wasn’t drunk or crazy reacting in a rage, she was stone cold sober and menacing.  I don’t want Erika on my screen again.

None of them had your back, Sutton but you stood up to her. You’re my hero. 

 

I have to say this scared me.  I think they would allow Erika to attack her.  I think Erika is the kind of person who would.  She is a nasty POS and all those women sat there and allowed Erika to attack her. 

I would not feel safe if I were Sutton.  ANd for Kyle to say you need to stand up to Erika - when has SHE????

[LemonSoda]

Erika mentioned being extremely verbally abusive to her first husband which killed the marriage and when she tried to verbally berate Tom he simply told her You don’t talk like that. Not you don’t talk to me like that but you don’t talk like that. 
It reminded me of when I read in a metaphysical book years ago that said You can control a situation if you can control your emotion. But yeah maybe years of behaving properly combined with this mess has allowed all her deep buried self loathing to bubble up.

[Bossa Nova]

1 hour ago, Slakkie said:

I have to say this scared me.  I think they would allow Erika to attack her.  I think Erika is the kind of person who would.  She is a nasty POS and all those women sat there and allowed Erika to attack her. 

I would not feel safe if I were Sutton.  ANd for Kyle to say you need to stand up to Erika - when has SHE????

I re-watched the episode today. Specifically the dinner.

When Sutton left the table upset, Erika pushed Sutton's empty chair into the table, right before the masculine Corleone elbow power lean on the table and dramatic silence to contain her anger. (eyeroll)

But the chair was a surrogate for Sutton for Ericka. I believe Erika was seconds away from becoming physical towards Sutton and the ladies felt it so they coddled her. But they knew it and felt it. 

Makes me sick that NO ONE called her out on it in the moment.

They feared and coddled the bully. 

[tvfanatic13]

Good lord those Gucci pants looked horrendous on Kyle. 
 

[gingerella]

You know what I hope? I hope that Miss Sutton sashay's her cute little Southern ass into the Reunion taping with body guards because of whatever Erika has threatened to do to her. And when they ask why she has body guards she can say in her cool as silk Southern accent, "Well y'all heard the vile, aggressive threats, sorry - promises - that Erika made to me, so I was advised by my legal team - whom I pay with money that isn't stolen from widows and orphans - that I should bring body guards for my physical protection. So Andy, that's why I have body guards here."  *insert sweet southern smile that would melt butter here & mic drop*

And then I hope Dorit goes to sit next to Sutton, as does Garcelle and they both say, in unison, "We're moving over here so we can have protection from Erika too!"

That? Would make me very happy.

[ladle]

I’m not going to lie: I’m enjoying this season immensely. 
 

BUT, the “However did this lovely dinner party go off the rails?” trope is pretty stale when they’re in season one zillion of the show. 

[JonnieUniteUs]

OK I am not caught up on the thread but I am re-watching the episode because I missed so much the first watch (constant distractions) including the PK Dori conversation that I’m looking forward to in a few min but I just saw the Garcelle Rinna conversation where Rinna is complaining that Garcelle did not thank them again for the damn sauce delivery after thanking them in person for it I mean holy shit did you see Garcelle‘s face she’s like what the fuck but she just let it go because she is as gracious as can be!

 

sorry I know that is possibly one of  the worst run on sentences but There may be a couple glasses of wine involved. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by JonnieUniteUs

[Shannah Banana]

6 hours ago, J80134 said:

Yes, yes! Harry is a master of the meat AND the pie...with his special sauce delivered piping hot.   

Maybe Harry will bake that crow meat pie, with his special sauce, that Sutton is going to eventually cram down Kyle's throat.

That'd be cool.

 

[Thumper]

1 hour ago, JonnieUniteUs said:

OK I am not caught up on the thread but I am re-watching the episode because I missed so much the first watch (constant distractions) including the PK Dori conversation that I’m looking forward to in a few min but I just saw the Garcelle Rinna conversation where Rinna is complaining that Garcelle did not thank them again for the damn sauce delivery after thanking them in person for it I mean holy shit did you see Garcelle‘s face she’s like what the fuck but she just let it go because she is as gracious as can be!

 

sorry I know that is possibly one of  the worst run on sentences but There may be a couple glasses of wine involved. 

Perfectly said! Agree that Garcelle was gracious to Rinna, who did not deserve it.

[lawrbk]

9 hours ago, J80134 said:

Lips acts like Harry's sauce comes with a diamond at the bottom of the bottle. Gar said thank you in person. Its not an "OMG, i can't believe you did this and I'm going to gush on and on about it" kinda gift. Its tomatoes and herbs stewed in a pot. Thoughtful, but not worthy of the bow down gratefulness Lips wants. Its pathetic that the best she can come up with for how Gar wronged her is this. Harry Hamlin is in Bulgaria (or wherever) pounding it out with a local and not giving 2 shits about Lips or her howife drama.

Not only that but it was something Harry made not Lisa. So she doesn’t bpneed to blather on. I’m sure Harry doesn’t GAF. Plus, something stops being a gift when you expect, even demand, constant thanks and praise for it. 

[BluishGreen]

So, I went on Reddit for the 1st time ever bc someone said there was interesting stuff there about, Parts 1-3 of the Dinner From Hell.  Turns out it is pretty much follows the most of the  discussions here. I was surprised by how consistent the responses were:  Kyle is a viper, she's no friend to Sutton, stabbed Sutton in the back and then tried to gaslight her by claiming she was ONLY trying to HELP-- surprisingly, not a single Kyle supporter to be found;  Garcelle is a genuine and beautiful person, but how to explain why she speaks her mind about Ms. Girardi almost exclusively in talking heads and lets Sutton take the punches;   Erika is a monster, a low down thief and liar;  she seethes with so much fury and bitterness that she's damn near radioactive; none of the HWs actually like Erika-- they fear her anger;  Sutton is a hero with a small "h" but she is learning how to stand her ground and getting better and stronger with time; Crystal is a snobby mean girl who doesn't add much and only sides with Erika because she loves watching Sutton get a beating;  Lisa Rinna is irredeemable, THE END; Kathy puts on this eccentric, above it all act but was content to let a guest in her home get threatened and verbally abused; Dorit is annoying and dresses like a kook but at least attempted to say something to Erika in support of finding the truth;  who would have ever believed PK, of all people, would end up making sense. which is a remarkable thing in the RHOBH world;  if only we could send some of the HWs from other franchises,  sit them down with Erika and let her play her tough girl act to women who would either laugh in her face and/or put her in her place-- preference was given to the Atlanta and NJ crews and/or Bethany Frankel.

[film noire]

On 9/8/2021 at 10:51 PM, Talented Tenth said:

 One sweet day, when all of this is over, I'm going to remember who was against us.

Is that a threat, or a promise? ; )

 

[KnoxForPres]

This season will go down as one of the best across all franchises. It was gold. 

I will be drinking English tea with Lisa V watching Kyle, Lisa R and no name Crystal realizing they were on the wrong side of history. 

Garcelle and Dorit I think have played a good season (shout out to PK!).  Sutton for complete MVP and I am here for it. Let’s go ladies!   

[RealHousewife]

1 minute ago, KnoxForPres said:

This season will go down as one of the best across all franchises. It was gold. 

I will be drinking English tea with Lisa V watching Kyle, Lisa R and no name Crystal realizing they were on the wrong side of history. 

Garcelle and Dorit I think have played a good season (shout out to PK!).  Sutton for complete MVP and I am here for it. Let’s go ladies!   

[KnoxForPres]

41 minutes ago, RealHousewife said:

Hell yes!   In the past most of just had fun- now it’s victims.  

 No matter how I play it in mind I can never get to where I would “show teeth and threaten”.  Even if I didn’t give a fuck about humanity (which I very much do)) I’d play it “I was blindsided- I’ve started benefits for the victims”- she’s a stealth bitch 

 I realize for legal reasons that may not possible but compassion could go a long way- we have seen none 

Edited September 11, 2021 by KnoxForPres

[endure]

On 9/8/2021 at 5:07 PM, Cupcake04 said:

Crystal and her “I agree”.  STFU kiss ass.

So weird too, she usually just sits there looking judgemental and mute 🤐 

[eleanorofaquitaine]

14 hours ago, Boo Boo said:

If she's defending a woman who profited off widows and orphans because Sutton is awkward, that's really petty.

Yes, it is. And she should be criticized for it. 

[pasdetrois]

Quote

Kyle said she had her shit too. We all know it would have been something like dealing with the stress of her husband's shadiness.

Or bees.

I'm experiencing the same thing I did way back when Teresa grifted - a swing from dismay to not being able to watch at all. My work is very stressful, a family member needs care, COVID continues to cut people down, it's 9-11 again...and I need to escape into something delightful and this ain't it.

I haven't watched the latest episode - it's sitting on my DVR. What bothers me most is that people are profiting off of Erika's shameful behavior, and worse, the victims. Andy, Bravo, the other housewives, advertisers...

I'll probably FF through parts of the reunion and end up turning it off when the Erika Redemption Show becomes unbearable. But I'll always keep reading here.

Edited September 11, 2021 by pasdetrois

[IslandGirl]

22 hours ago, Maximona said:

Personally, I'm so shallow I'd keep Rinna around just to see more of the dresses in the garage.       <snip snip the rest of your hilariously brilliant post!>

My big takeaway from this episode, though, is that it's quite possible Dorit comes by that accent naturally.  I didn't realize her father was Israeli, and her mother was born in Tangiers.  When you grow up around parents who are not native English speakers, you do tend to internalize some of their weirder inflections.

I loved those garage gowns!

My cousin's mother is Israeli & her father is Hungarian. She speaks just like Dorit, so I think you're right. 
 

21 hours ago, Dutchgirl said:

Ah to dream...that would be just too satisfying. Fuck I hate her.

Does Kyle have any fans left? Show of hands.

I just turned in my card...

[IslandGirl]

I hate to agree with Rinna, but I do think it would have been nice of Garcelle to say what she did with Harry's sauce, or how much her family enjoyed it, AFTER consuming it! I love Garcelle, but she strikes me as someone without a shred of self doubt who finds it hard to admit she's done anything less than perfect. I'd have liked to hear Garcelle say something like, "You know we really did love the sauce, had a great spaghetti dinner with the boys, & I should have let you know that!" I absolutely would have sent a thank you text afterwards...

[pasdetrois]

Garcelle may suspect that Rinna is using the show to promote Harry's cooking and a potential product (Harry's Sauce!).

[Dixie Sugarbaker]

regarding Rinna’s attempt to make Garcelle look bad because she didn’t prostrate herself on the floor with gratitude over Harry’s sauce that Garcelle probably didn’t want, if I were Garcelle, every time I saw Rinna I would very loudly say in a syrupy sweet voice, “Rinna, please thank Harry for his delicious sauce”. Every time I saw her,  No matter the occasion, I would say that before I greeted her. At the reunion, when Andy says hi, I would thank Harry first. Make it as ridiculous as Rinna is acting.

[jkitty]

On 9/8/2021 at 8:46 PM, Ms Blue Jay said:

Crystal what the fuck how could you???????????????????????  How could you become one of the worst and let Sutton become one of the best????????

I was rooting for her. We were all rooting for her 😂!

But really…such a disappointment. 

[Dixie Sugarbaker]

I don’t want Kyle to leave. I want her on the show with no allies. Put her through what she has put LVP, Denise and Sutton through without her posse to support her. THEN, she can be dismissed.

[chlban]

45 minutes ago, IslandGirl said:

I hate to agree with Rinna, but I do think it would have been nice of Garcelle to say what she did with Harry's sauce, or how much her family enjoyed it, AFTER consuming it! I love Garcelle, but she strikes me as someone without a shred of self doubt who finds it hard to admit she's done anything less than perfect. I'd have liked to hear Garcelle say something like, "You know we really did love the sauce, had a great spaghetti dinner with the boys, & I should have let you know that!" I absolutely would have sent a thank you text afterwards...

After Lisa had just witnessed the lying grifter bare her teeth like a rabid dog and attack Sutton, which was "hunky dory", bitch complains because she didn't get a second thank you? Yeah Miss Manners was offended. Spare me.

[KnoxForPres]

2 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Or bees.

I'm experiencing the same thing I did way back when Teresa grifted - a swing from dismay to not being able to watch at all. My work is very stressful, a family member needs care, COVID continues to cut people down, it's 9-11 again...and I need to escape into something delightful and this ain't it.

I haven't watched the latest episode - it's sitting on my DVR. What bothers me most is that people are profiting off of Erika's shameful behavior, and worse, the victims. Andy, Bravo, the other housewives, advertisers...

I'll probably FF through parts of the reunion and end up turning it off when the Erika Redemption Show becomes unbearable. But I'll always keep reading here.

I understand- we are in horrific times. However this episode was really good. If you’re a fan I think you’d be ok watching it.  It’s not delightful but PK brings the truth and Garcelle hosts a really nice dinner.  I wouldn’t recommend NY but I think you could watch this one. 

I can’t see an Erika redemption happening. It seems impossible. But if for some insane reason that happens we will let you know and scream “don’t watch!”.

[KnoxForPres]

1 hour ago, IslandGirl said:

I hate to agree with Rinna, but I do think it would have been nice of Garcelle to say what she did with Harry's sauce, or how much her family enjoyed it, AFTER consuming it! I love Garcelle, but she strikes me as someone without a shred of self doubt who finds it hard to admit she's done anything less than perfect. I'd have liked to hear Garcelle say something like, "You know we really did love the sauce, had a great spaghetti dinner with the boys, & I should have let you know that!" I absolutely would have sent a thank you text afterwards...

100% agree in normal times. If you TM Vicki “brought me a casserole” I’d let you know in person and call/text how much I enjoyed it.  

But Rinna calculated that move. She will hurt Garcelle every chance she gets and G isn’t dumb.  That sauce was to mitigate any past wrong doings. Be it Harry Hamlins sauce or a King Ranch Chicken casserole it was a- I reversed the truck, asked you to own why you’d say Tom calls Ericka, put it into drive and ran over you- here’s some Ragu!

[chenoa333]

15 hours ago, tvfanatic13 said:

Good lord those Gucci pants looked horrendous on Kyle. 
 

😂 and I'm thinking the former Pantene hair model was wearing extensions too. 

Edited September 11, 2021 by chenoa333

[MaggieG]

I continue to be baffled and infuriated by these women that they stand by Erika when she displays that sort of behavior, but Sutton is somehow wrong. 

Rinna is the worst. That whole "I can't remember, I was black out drunk" was absolute bullshit. She knew exactly what was going on and even said sorry to Erika before giving her the dog. Like somehow Erika was the one hurt in this situation. She was fake as ever at Garcelle's house. When G was expressing how she felt that she, Sutton and Crystal were on the outside of the group, Lisa went in her high pitched, fake "oh that's not true, I'm sorry you feel that way" voice. I hope Garcelle knows not to expect anything from Lisa. And then at that dinner when Crystal said to the chef that she ate everything on her plate you could hear Lisa in the background (the camera wasn't on her) screaming "I ate everything too!". She wanted to make sure everyone knew she actually ate something. And then when when Erika said she was leaving, Dorit followed and of course Rinna "I think I'll go too" said in that weird high voice. She is so fake!

[Boo Boo]

I wonder if the reason that most of the cast stayed quiet during Sutton's being threatened is b/c they are afraid being vociferous will only bring attention to their husband's shady dealings.  For example, Mauricio and the real estate fraud he's had to settle.

[CharlizeCat]

My favorite highlight was the close-up of Rinna shoveling sugar into her coffee mug at Garcelle's house. 

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, IslandGirl said:

My cousin's mother is Israeli & her father is Hungarian. She speaks just like Dorit, so I think you're right. 
 

Dorit's parents were on one of her early seasons.  Maybe someone watching the old episodes can tell us if they have accents?  I can't remember exactly but it seems like they did not. 

[Cosmocrush]

3 hours ago, IslandGirl said:

I hate to agree with Rinna, but I do think it would have been nice of Garcelle to say what she did with Harry's sauce, or how much her family enjoyed it, AFTER consuming it! I love Garcelle, but she strikes me as someone without a shred of self doubt who finds it hard to admit she's done anything less than perfect. I'd have liked to hear Garcelle say something like, "You know we really did love the sauce, had a great spaghetti dinner with the boys, & I should have let you know that!" I absolutely would have sent a thank you text afterwards...

Sure, I guess.  But honestly if someone that hadn't treated me that great recently came over unannounced to bring me sauce that I didn't ask for, I'm not sure I would do much more than say thank you.  And if she then made another special trip to my house to let me know I should have thanked her more than I did (this time on camera) I would have reacted just like Garcelle did - only maybe with more eyeroll.   

[HeddaGabler]

I have been listening to so many podcasts and reading these threads so much i don’t remember who said that it is surprising to realize how much these women track each other’s clothes and purchases. Like Erika not knowing about Kyle’s Gucci pants was a big deal. Then, seeing Kyle looking at all that hideous jewelry and china and competing with Sutton? these dummies are so greedy. 

And, from my perspective, this is at the heart of their confusion with Erika and spending money intended for orphans on private planes and Cartier panther rings. I’m imagining Kyle wondering why they should criticize Erika for having the same nice things they all have or want. And, she lacks the basic critical thinking skills to understand where basic ethics enter the conversation. They are all greedy and selfish (and a couple of them are spectacularly stupid) but Erika takes the cake with her narcissistic rage and aggressiveness. I agree with PK (oh god) — she can’t be guilty of her husband’s embezzlements and fraud, but she can control how she responds to everyone. 

I can’t imagine being on the receiving end of her snapping teeth, but when she said “I’m coming after you” I wish Sutton would have said “How are you going to do that, Erika? judging by the way you are handling this, you will be in no position to come after anyone”. 

[Kiki777]

I saw this zombie movie, I forget the title but it terrified me because the zombies moved very quickly and snapped their teeth at their victims.  That’s what Erika reminded me of with the flat eyes and snappy teeth - a zombie.  An empty shell with no brain or common sense, just running on some greedy survival instinct.

[HelloOutThere]

So many great comments. This season is DELIVERING. I live in LA so there’s additional local interest in the case — the whole debacle is so wild and just so LA. 

To me, the story of Erika Jayne is a strong indication that Karma is alive and well, and knows exactly how to pack a wallop. Cunty energy isn’t as fun when it comes back to collect on its debts. 

Remember the vomit-inducing, out of character, fake affffff “The GANG is back together!” exclamation from EJ early this season when all “the girlz” were…kiki’ing on Kyle’s bed or something? I like to think about that during the dinner party scenes when the witch is unmasked and seething with rage. EJ has a lot of force; maybe Karma will help her find a way to channel it into something positive. P—y pops and Lambos didn’t get her very far in the grand scheme of her life. 

[RoseAllDay]

Just rewatched PK’s take on Erika. The man is absolutely correct. He was on to her from the moment she sat down without her knickers. Never really cared much for his pompous ass, but right now I’m his No. 1 fan. I still, however, would not have let her monopolize my date night. 

Those captions on her photos for the “lingerie line” were not to sell thongs and bras. If Dorit truly thinks that, then she is more naive than I thought. There is a way to fight for and defend yourself against criminal allegations, but confirming the narrative, as Erika’s been doing through word and deed, is not the best way to go about it.

Could Tom have been cheating for most of his marriage? Sure. But would Erika have been blind to that for all that time? Unlikely, unless it was just the cost of doing business. This is Erika trying to play the “wronged woman,” which is a total stretch. Just like Tom’s dementia and catastrophic accident (and run in with a burglar and eye injury, per the preview).

Still cheering at Garcelle calling out Kyle on the charity BS. 

Finally, if Sutton is so mean and vindictive, why did they all show up to Dorit’s and listened to, and basically agreed with, Sutton’s conclusions?  Kyle? Care to answer?

 

[TurtlePower]

Oh Sutton! I feel a little bad for her, as I find her awkwardness somewhat relatable.

Like Sutton, I was once urged by a group of friends to “be honest” with someone, hoping they’d be there to back me up (because we’d ALL talked about it) only to be thrown under the bus by the group—who chickened out at the moment of truth. So I looked like the douchebag, and while I apologised to the person I was honest with (for being an honest jerk), our relationship was never the same. We don’t talk anymore. I regret being honest because it just caused too much awkwardness and problems within the social group (but hey, I’m a gullible female autistic who tries too hard and fails often). 

Anyway, I found Erika deeply vicious this episode. She was terrifying, which seems to be her defense mechanism. What’s deplorable is she attacks those who aren’t out to hurt her intentionally or those who are sensitive—she went for Eileen, she went for Teddi and now Sutton. I’ve never seen Erika attack one of the big dogs, just the little ones. 

I think Erika went for Sutton to intimidate her and shut her up because there’s likely more to the story. 
 

Edited September 14, 2021 by TurtlePower

[princelina]

10 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

I'll probably FF through parts of the reunion and end up turning it off when the Erika Redemption Show becomes unbearable. But I'll always keep reading here.

Do you happen to know when the reunion was filmed?  or if it has been yet?  Erika's obviously lying her ass off about Tom and they know it, but they're none too bright and I'm not sure what was happening in real time with his business scandal that they were maybe processing, or considering "alleged" and waiting for proof, or too lazy to read.  But by the time the reunion rolls around there should be no question.

9 hours ago, IslandGirl said:

I hate to agree with Rinna, but I do think it would have been nice of Garcelle to say what she did with Harry's sauce, or how much her family enjoyed it, AFTER consuming it! 

I agree with you.  But I also find it rude when people tell you that you didn't thank them properly for something, so Garcelle was probably taken aback by that.

5 hours ago, HeddaGabler said:

I have been listening to so many podcasts and reading these threads so much i don’t remember who said that it is surprising to realize how much these women track each other’s clothes and purchases. Like Erika not knowing about Kyle’s Gucci pants was a big deal. Then, seeing Kyle looking at all that hideous jewelry and china and competing with Sutton? these dummies are so greedy. 

What do Kyle's man hands NOT need?  A giant hideous panther ring on her pinky!!!

[njbchlover]

9 hours ago, pasdetrois said:

Garcelle may suspect that Rinna is using the show to promote Harry's cooking and a potential product (Harry's Sauce!).

Exactly what I was thinking!!  Rinna is a self-admitted "hustler" and will do almost anything for a buck, including exploiting her husband's joy of cooking/baking.  

I wouldn't be surprised if she's shopping the bolognese recipe around to manufacturers.  

[Kiki777]

Hey QVC sells food items!

[hoodooznoodooz]

I thought Sutton was cool. Upset as she was, she still called out, “Thank you, Kathy!”