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HeddaGabler

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  1. I actually thought that this was a pretty entertaining first episode! I agree that discussing someone else's sexuality is off-limits. Jen making snarky comments on social media is punching down -- he might be a young adult, but he's still your "friend's" kid, for pete's sake. I think if someone I knew were attempting to publicly disparage my kid, I would be pretty enraged. I know people are annoyed by him (he is annoying), but he was only 19 or so when they shot that first season -- that's not exactly a mature age to manage all of this attention. I cringe when I think of some of the decisions
  2. this is such a great point! I bet she thought that the troubles would eventually disappear and that she could have some sort of future story line about Tom’s brain miraculously healing, and how they’ve reconciled. Instead everything just got worse and worse. Just imagine what shit they are used to burying if she assumed she could maintain this level of arrogance during all this.
  3. I have been listening to so many podcasts and reading these threads so much i don’t remember who said that it is surprising to realize how much these women track each other’s clothes and purchases. Like Erika not knowing about Kyle’s Gucci pants was a big deal. Then, seeing Kyle looking at all that hideous jewelry and china and competing with Sutton? these dummies are so greedy. And, from my perspective, this is at the heart of their confusion with Erika and spending money intended for orphans on private planes and Cartier panther rings. I’m imagining Kyle wondering why they should criti
  4. I also meant to add that Erika is displaying textbook characteristics of a narcissist: Lacks empathy: unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others. Has a grandiose sense of self-importance. Exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements. Preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love Requires excessive admiration Believes that he or she is unique or special, and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or hi
  5. I think you are touching on the most important point -- the 4th wall is in the way here. They can be thought of as complicit, maybe not legally, but if they were on shopping sprees and holidays with Erika while she spent money that was never hers, then they are associated with it. Also, I'll bet money that Dorit did get actual legal advice where they told her to keep her distance so that she isn't pulled into additional legal drama. If Sutton did offer money as a loan at some point, and then talked to a lawyer about it, they likely gave her very strong and strict advice about who she might be
  6. oh, I hear you — I’ve put in late hours for the same reasons. However! If camera crews were filming my dinner for millions of people to watch, and if I’ve already bragged about what a good cook I am, I would be busting out the china or renting some very nice dishes to show my best side. And then I would tell Dorit to rinse her plate before putting it in the dishwasher, ha ha.
  7. I wish Sutton would have said, “we don’t know whose money you were spending when we were on big trips, private planes, and in the Chanel store (and Cartier!). I want to distance myself from being a witness to your spending other people’s money.” At this point, how can there be any question that Erika was spending money honestly/legally earned?
  8. Erika looked like the final scene in "Death Becomes Her". You would think that she would have learned a few tricks from her make up crew over the years. I have to admit, even though Sutton was a jackass at the beginning of this season, I have always liked her. Not sure why, but this last episode really nails it for me. She is definitely eccentric, but she she is smart enough to read the room. And the actual newspaper. These other dummies didn't even try. I think the LA Times aims for a reading level of a 9-10 year old. I am NOT a fan of using disposable trays for serving food in my
  9. Frank does not have any day-to-day responsibilities with his daughter or grandson, or with a hostile parent. No pressures there. If he did feel sorry for Erin and bought her diapers and baby formula out of pity, he didn’t need to lie to Mare, but he did. I’m sure Mare sees the bad side of everyone because of her job, and Frank’s lie would be pretty painful, I’m sure. I like this show. I don’t see Mare as being bad at her job, I see her being pretty good at her job (finding the bullet, taking charge at the crime scene, being diligent) but she is cracking under pressure, and no one (except
  10. I was wondering the same thing! Not that I have any right to diagnose anyone's mental health, but my observation is that she most certainly behaves in a sometimes manic/sometimes depressive way. It makes me wonder if her daughter's issues (OCD, anxiety) are simply responses to her mother's erratic and dominating ways.
  11. I am so disgusted by Braunwyn, I don't even know what to say. She is a toxic asshole. Who cares if she wants to stay married, her husband should change the locks as far as I'm concerned.
  12. I agree with the posts expressing concern with Braunwyn's son performing on camera. I think she is exploiting her child's personal growth for her own benefit, and her poor children buy into this because they receive such positive attention from their Mom. She is a co-dependent narcissist, and I wouldn't be surprised if Braunwyn herself had to be overly performative and dramatic to get her own mother's attention. It's very sad, and her husband needs to see a therapist and learn some intervention methods to help his own kids break this cycle. ETA: Just want to be clear that I don't believe
  13. I came here to say the same thing. She's treating her alcoholism, which is great, but now she needs to address whatever it is in her brain that makes her an asshole to her own children. It's not the alcohol, evidently. Also, lol at these women breaking down at the slightest hint of inconvenience. Shannon is a goddamn dysfunctional mess.
  14. I said I wasn't going to watch anymore for a while, but I cheated and watched this ep. Lisa Rinna better watch out: if Sutton sticks around, she is bound to have better parties and bring in more interesting people than anyone else in this crappy group: it sounds like her mom Reba is loads more entertaining as a character than Lois. (not a stab at Lois, who seems like a nice lady who had a particularly horrifying life experience, but she's not the wacky character that Rinna wants her to be).
  15. I haven't watched any of the reunion episodes of Beverly Hills or New York, and I don't think I'm going to. I wanted to watch these shows to either have a laugh at the antics, or to wonder at the houses and holidays these women have had. If I wanted to experience this level of toxicity, I'd turn on the news, or just start embracing the dregs of twitter. I think these recent seasons of both franchises has released me to move on to other things. I might start watching Salt Lake City, or I just might give it all up. I just don't feel like toxic relationships and women at their bitchiness is enter
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