S13.E10: Light As A Feather, Stiff As A Bored

[PrincessPurrsALot]

In Salem, Eboni’s pointed question reverberates throughout the group, leading to an emotional revelation at dinner and some new body ink. The ladies take a trip back in time to the historical Pioneer Village and later at dinner, Bershan ruffles some feathers with a few of the ladies when she voices her opinion of them.

Original air date 2021.07.13

[emmawoodhouse]

Bumping.

[LilaFowler]

All I can say is, there is no one in this cast that I would bring back for another season. I was watching for Salem pr0n but I barely got any of that. I'm out again! (Thank God for Potomac)

[NYCFree]

Did Sonja just hand Ramona a glass of wine, then tilt the wine into her own mouth and drink it THROUGH HER MASK? Then Ramona tried to take a drink and looked at her mysteriously empty glass like “what the fuck just happened to the wine.”

[goofygirl]

Yes. That's what I THINK I saw too.  Sonja drinking wine THROUGH HER MASK....  That was really weird, though!  And the other weirdness is Moaner's STILL got poop falling out her ass ON THE FLOOR ON A TRIP.

Is it just the traveling or does she do that AT HOME TOO???

It's beyond time for her to seek medical care for her condition.  Hell, I thought she had PANTS on when that last little turd appeared.  What the actual HELL???

[Hangin Out]

Between Live Chat, Light as a Feather and all the fake ness, this show has had it.  They are all fake and pretending to like each other.  It’s all Bullshit.  We are not stupid.

[65mickey]

Never thought we would see the New York women resort to physical fighting. They have joined the likes of Jersey, Atlanta, Potomac and Beverly Hills.  Andy must be ecstatic. 

[snarts]

Ok, so now we see why Bershan didn't get an apple...

[Hangin Out]

I’m so happy I saw NOTHING of Salem thanks to these bitches.  All I saw was fakeness, screaming, shit on the floor, Sonja peeing her pants and the new woman calling them old.  The Countess losing her cool, also.  The rest was a waste of a nice town.  When is this crapola show finished?

 

 

 

[Persnickety1]

I'm not watching any more, but I am living for the comments on this forum.  😂

Sounds like I didn't miss a damned thing tonight.  Kind of like all of the other episodes this season.  

At least Ramona has turned this shit show into an actual shit show.  🤢

[izabella]

I don't understand what is happening with Ramona and her poop.  When is it just falling out, and how is that even possible?  Is it before she sits down on the toilet?  When she gets up?  WTF is happening?

[Thumper]

I totally missed the Ramona poop and Sonja peeing segment.  When was it???  
I am only half watching each episode because they make me uncomfortable.

More in Bershan’s court than Sonja’s.  Sonja is just so over the top. “My family” at the Salem place — NOT her family, her husband’s family

Oh, just laugh about the grandma comments.  Bershan was probably looking for a big night of drinking, which these women used to do, but some cannot anymore. (And that’s okay.).  Bershan doesn’t know that.

Agree that Leah looked good with the side part and waves in her hair.

[TomGirl]

Bershan can go any time now. Can not stand her!

[thefog]

The hypocrisy of Leah and Eboni gossiping and talking crap about Sonja behind her back. Of course they were the ones gaslighting that Ramona and Lu were not good friends to her.

Edited July 14, 2021 by escape

[Feech]

Maybe they are going to demote Ramona and give her a road apple.

[65mickey]

It really was a different Bershan tonight. Maybe production told her that if she wanted an apple next season she better get in there and bring the crazy like the rest of them. And boy did she. 

[BusyOctober]

Leah is complaining that Ramona’s talking gave her a headache?!?  Just seeing Leah’s face gives ME a headache.  Her voice makes me want to jab ice picks in my ears just to feel better.

As a white woman, I am aware that almost all of the history I was taught has been literally whitewashed, and that many stories of many generations of POC have been lost.  I try to do better with my child and tell her their are many other people who were forgotten in the history books. The Pilgrims and the Founding Fathers were not sainted heroes.  However, I think these braying asses from RHONY were extremely disrespectful of the volunteers at Pioneer Village.  I get not wanting to dress up in the costumes…that was a stupid call on Production&/or Pioneer Village side. But to be dismissive of the people and the place was rude. For Lu, the Countess of Class, to be posing for “Insta” photos while someone is trying to explain the history of the structure was lacking good manners.

Sonja droning on and on about “her family” has got to stop!  The Adams, the Quincys, the Morgan’s….NONE OF THEM ARE RELATED TO YOU SONJA!!!  Your ex husband and your daughter can claim the “very old American family” legacy, but NOT YOU SONJA!  The delusions of grandeur get worse every year.  Is that a symptom of dementia?  Creating false memories vs. losing memories? 
 

I cannot believe Ramona shit all over another bathroom during one of these paid for trips. She is disgusting.  I have never known any adult who has pooped on the floor/ carpet/ door/sheets/ furniture/ walls/ ceiling/ mini bar of a hotel.  What is wrong with her?? There’s no excuse for it.  The Bravo crew had better been the ones to clean up after Ramona, and not the hotel staff. 

BTW, for anyone wanting to visit Salem, MA -  great city with so much to do! Just don’t come from Sept to Nov so you can avoid the Halloween crowds, inflated prices and insane traffic.  But when you do visit, the Black Veil is pretty awesome (the twins Lu flirted with own the place).  And there is an incredible bakery right next store with some of the best breads and pastries ( A & J King Artisan Bakery).  

 

 

Edited July 14, 2021 by BusyOctober

[goofygirl]

15 minutes ago, izabella said:

I don't understand what is happening with Ramona and her poop.  When is it just falling out, and how is that even possible?  Is it before she sits down on the toilet?  When she gets up?  WTF is happening?

ITA!!!  It's past time to get a real, live DOCTOR on the case, and NOT a Plastic Surgeon! SERIOUSLY.

[Straycat80]

Barely watching this anymore. I had such high hopes for Bershan, how disappointing. And Sonja,  you just might have a drinking problem when you chug a glass of wine THROUGH your mask, just sayin’. 

[chewycandy]

30 minutes ago, BusyOctober said:

But when you do visit, the Black Veil is pretty awesome (the twins Lu flirted with own the place).  

That’s so neat! I love that they did the tattoos. And Lu saying “I’ll just go see what they have” like she was in a boutique.

I cracked up at Ramona’s ticker tape subtitles and her saying “I’m right here bitch!” when Leah was on speaker. 

[Cheezwiz]

Salem looks like an interesting place - too bad we didn't get to see more of it, and wasted time on these dopey women. I'm amazed that even with 2 of them now sober and they're still getting into loud sloppy arguments.

I totally missed Sonja imbibing through her mask, but it doesn't surprise me at all. She's just hopelessly messy and obnoxious when she's drunk. It was interesting seeing her biggest champions Leah & Eboni , are beginning realize how delusional she is. It's sad, she's like a Manhattan Miss Havisham.

I WISH I had missed the Ramona poop scene. GAWD what is the deal with that? Apparently it's not the first time, but I don't understand how that even happens, and how she doesn't know it's happened? Does it happen when she's getting out of the shower? Getting up from the toilet? How does she not notice? It's disgusting, and I'd be mortified beyond belief that it was televised - I'd never show my face in public again!

[ichbin]

Well, that took a turn.  The hypocrisy and backstabbing hit an all time high tonight.  I'll be back if and when I hear something has changed for the better.  Ramona, quirks and all, has actually become the least offensive of them all despite the barbs and abuse thrown her way by the rest of the cast and Andy via WWHL.  

If tonight was an indication of what Bershan can bring to this table, she is as useless for this show as Leah.

Edited July 14, 2021 by ichbin
Last sentence added.

[hoodooznoodooz]

I liked Sonja claiming Lu only wanted to know if the matchmaker had someone for her. Lu has Garth, but he’s only a tool for Lu.

Also, Ramona telling Sonja to sit between Lu and her, her two long-term besties.

[Feech]

The only thing more dangerous than a Singer Stinger ……is a Singer Splatter.

You can slip in it and hit your head.

That’s why Sonja is the way she is.

[Shannah Banana]

I wonder why Ramona thinks it's okay have someone clean up after something so disgusting?  This kind of stuff, I don't like about Ramona.  Nobody in this world should have to clean up after a grown woman, in her right mind - I know that's debatable - but clearly she knows what she did, she isn't a two year old.  That's some trashy shit right there, and takes a very entitled person to think it's acceptable. 

I think I dislike Ramona again...a lot. 

Looks like my high hopes and dreams for Bershan have come crumbling down.  I think I will go ahead and blame that one on Ramona too, since I'm on a roll with her. 

[maggiemae]

Sonja will just bask in any attention.

[LemonSoda]

What happened to this show? 

[Feech]

It got shitty.

[Avaleigh]

Bershan can go anytime. She was *horrible*. I really don't want to see any more of her and hope that she isn't at the reunion. 

Sonja was a drunken mess (again) but I still think Bershan went too far with her. Some of those comments were really unnecessary and only made the situation worse. 

Ramona not cleaning up after herself is disgusting. It's amazing to me that she feels no shame. 

I had to look away from Leah's "crying". Who is she kidding with that display, seriously?

Good for Luann for not putting up with Bershan's bullshit. Seeing her make the choice to continue to be sober was nice to see. It annoyed me that Bershan tried to make it seem like the women weren't fun because they weren't all drinking. Just because a person doesn't drink doesn't automatically turn them into a "grandma" or mean that they can't have a good time.

Edited July 14, 2021 by Avaleigh

[JonnieUniteUs]

It’s like Ramona did not realize she pooped on the floor?  It looked like someone (her or Sonja?) had stepped in it and tracked it at least in one spot.  She would know a camera crew would be running around in there wouldn’t she?  Def needs to see a doctor.

when Sonja pointed it out Ramona went in and shut the door to clean up her “make-up” she had “spilled on the floor” while Sonja danced around with glee over the situation.

Too bad about Bershan. ☹️ 

 

[MsMalin]

Not only did Ramona poop on the floor, but is she so unaware that she didn't realize she did it and clean it up?

Why did Eboni wait to tell everyone her Grandmother died? Did she think she couldn't give another lecture if she did? Leah's crying was unbelievably fake. Perfectly dry face. I wasn't sure if she was laughing or crying..  And then using it as another bond with Ebony to show how alike they are!

Had to laugh at Leah telling Bershaun not to insult the others.  Leah did look very pretty at that dinner.

Edited July 14, 2021 by MsMalin

[Chatty Cake]

I only got as far as the tattoo scene. Leah shaking and crying when Eboni tried to announce her grandmother died was so cringeworthy and fake. Ebonis display also seemed fake. Leah and Eboni got their grandmas names tattooed on them even though they didn’t go to them at their death beds. 
I cannot take any more of Eboni trying to enlighten who she considers white women of privilege. I can’t stand the language her and Leah use when they pat themselves on the back for educating the ignorant. SHUT UP.

 

[Baltimore Betty]

5 hours ago, maggiemae said:

Sonja will just bask in any attention.

I think guzzling a glass of red wine thru a mask would have gotten her attention but Barshawn and Ramona ignored that so I guess she had to ramp up the crazy.

[CrinkleCutCat]

5 hours ago, LemonSoda said:

What happened to this show? 

Leah. Then Eboni.

[CrinkleCutCat]

I think that rates as one of the most tedious episodes ever (for the NY franchise). Bringing Leah into the mix didn’t fit well with the older ladies and now Eboni doesn’t fit well because she wants to teach/preach/lecture them.  Fine… they probably could do with educating but here? On this show? Doesn’t make for an entertaining tv show. Add in Bershan…. Boring.

Re this episode: I can’t even think of something to make a snappy comment about (my usual mo). ::sigh::

Edited July 14, 2021 by CrinkleCutCat
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[Vanderboom]

There were glimmers of hope for a better show:

• I actually laughed when Leah complained to Sonja that Ramona was giving her a headache. And Ramona responded on speakerphone! 😁
• Rolled my eyes at the Sob Sisters, but was greatly relieved when Eboni said she would (finally!) move on and kiki with the girls.
• Grinned when Sonja said Luann just wanted to know about the matchmaker to get even more men.

And then there was poop. And pee. And rudeness to Salem actors. And a fight for reasons I still don't fully understand. What a letdown.

Edited July 14, 2021 by Vanderboom

[Baltimore Betty]

What the hell happened to our possibly chill, fun Barshan?  Where did she go?  Why was she so awful to the other women? What crawled up her butt?  Why would she make me like Eboni more than her in that moment, how could she do such a thing to me?  So many questions.

[Pondlass1]

It’s just not fun to watch anymore. Actually it’s pretty sad and unsettling.

[Lassus]

What the what?  This would have been a good place for the "Who are you?" walking-Tony-Stark-talking-to-Ant-Man-in-prison gif.  I would have loved for someone to say that to Bershan.

Highlight of the show: Luann interacting with the waitress like a normal human while Sonja and Bershan were fighting right next to them.

Edited July 14, 2021 by Lassus

[TV Diva Queen]

Were Luann's HW required CHA NEL earrings in the wrong ears? 

Edited July 14, 2021 by TV Diva Queen

[CrinkleCutCat]

37 minutes ago, Pondlass1 said:

It’s just not fun to watch anymore. Actually it’s pretty sad and unsettling.

So true black kitty sister from another mother!

43 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

What the hell happened to our possibly chill, fun Barshan?  Where did she go?  Why was she so awful to the other women? What crawled up her butt?  Why would she make me like Eboni more than her in that moment, how could she do such a thing to me?  So many questions.

Producers got in her ear and told her to amp up some ‘drahmar’!

[CrinkleCutCat]

Not much traffic here which implies many of us Primetimers didn’t get much out of this episode 🤷‍♀️

ps/ and I’m in a different time zone (Australia)… normally when I join in here after the episode there are pages of comments already!

Edited July 14, 2021 by CrinkleCutCat

[Hangin Out]

10 hours ago, Thumper said:

I totally missed the Ramona poop and Sonja peeing segment.  When was it???  
I am only half watching each episode because they make me uncomfortable.

More in Bershan’s court than Sonja’s.  Sonja is just so over the top. “My family” at the Salem place — NOT her family, her husband’s family

Oh, just laugh about the grandma comments.  Bershan was probably looking for a big night of drinking, which these women used to do, but some cannot anymore. (And that’s okay.).  Bershan doesn’t know that.

Agree that Leah looked good with the side part and waves in her hair.

Ramona pooped in the bathroom floor when they went to that Salem place in the morning.  Either before she got to the bathroom stall or when she was coming out.  I don’t know howBravo got away with that scene.  I would have been furious if I were her.  Besides that,Sonja stepped in it and was laughing so hard she peed her pants or Depends she wears.

[CrinkleCutCat]

Do we *really* think that was poo on Ramonas bathrom floor…. really? That’s like my ancient Labrador dog whose poo just falls out of him now. We can’t really believe Ramona has poo on the floor that she doesn’t notice? NO!!!?? Tell me how that can be true 😳

[Baltimore Betty]

How are we not talking about Ramona dancing on the table at that yelling dinner?  Like, what was that, did she do it to show Barshan how cool and fun she is?  Did we see Ramona get down off that table because I really wanted to see how she got down without help.  Didn't Ramona loose her shit (yes, I made a funny), when the ladies were dancing on the ottoman at her birthday party for her 50 nearest and dearest girl friends?

I hope the tattoo parlor sage sticks their place, there was some really bad juju going on there.

Ramona questioning Eboni about getting a tattoo so quickly seemed like anything my friends would do if I were (faux) emotionally charged and making a rash decision.  

In first place for "why is she doing that," goes to Leah and her faux crying which was not even good enough for a Telenova, that girl is so weird.  Eboni places second for her strange tearless crying and for choosing an odd moment to blurt out the news of her grandmother's death that could have been said earlier in the day.

I would have put on the costume for the tour of the settlement village, I would have gotten more screen time and I would have said things like "under his eye," May the Lord open," I would have called the other HW's Martha's, lol!

[Baltimore Betty]

11 hours ago, snarts said:

Ok, so now we see why Bershan didn't get an apple...

Is that confirmed? Can she redeem herself?

[WhatAmIWatching]

1 hour ago, Baltimore Betty said:

How are we not talking about Ramona dancing on the table at that yelling dinner?  Like, what was that, did she do it to show Barshan how cool and fun she is?  Did we see Ramona get down off that table because I really wanted to see how she got down without help.  Didn't Ramona loose her shit (yes, I made a funny), when the ladies were dancing on the ottoman at her birthday party for her 50 nearest and dearest girl friends?

I hope the tattoo parlor sage sticks their place, there was some really bad juju going on there.

Ramona questioning Eboni about getting a tattoo so quickly seemed like anything my friends would do if I were (faux) emotionally charged and making a rash decision.  

In first place for "why is she doing that," goes to Leah and her faux crying which was not even good enough for a Telenova, that girl is so weird.  Eboni places second for her strange tearless crying and for choosing an odd moment to blurt out the news of her grandmother's death that could have been said earlier in the day.

I would have put on the costume for the tour of the settlement village, I would have gotten more screen time and I would have said things like "under his eye," May the Lord open," I would have called the other HW's Martha's, lol!

Yes yes to alllll of this!

I was dying to see how Ramona got down especially in heels! Eta: she really needs to get to a gastroenterologist or see an OB/GYN for a possible rectocele. How many times now have we seen her lose her bowels on our TVs? How is she not mortified??

Ok so I've wanted to say all that to Sonja, too, and have sometimes yelled it at my tv, but Bershan, now c'mon, you just met her 5 min ago, and I've been watching her antics for yeeearrss.

Edited July 14, 2021 by WhatAmIWatching

[TV Diva Queen]

27 minutes ago, CrinkleCutCat said:

Do we *really* think that was poo on Ramonas bathrom floor…. really? That’s like my ancient Labrador dog whose poo just falls out of him now. We can’t really believe Ramona has poo on the floor that she doesn’t notice? NO!!!?? Tell me how that can be true 😳

and Ramona saying that it was her foundation that she dropped.  Really - that's some dark foundation!!!!

[chlban]

Am I going to have to watch this to find out what horrible thing Bershan did?  I made it to Leah's god-awful fake crying and tuned out. Gurl, please. Crying requires actual tears.

Edited July 14, 2021 by chlban

[Boo Boo]

Maybe I'm heartless, and maybe it's because her own grandmother died, but Leah's bawling seemed to be acted.

And this show went from my favorites to being my least favorite.

I used to love Sonja.  She had charm and wit.  Now I can't stand her.

Edited July 14, 2021 by Boo Boo