Episode Discussion II: The TFGH

[TeeVee329]

Okay, I wasn't eager to see Carly repeatedly rake Britt over the coals about Jason's "death", but I'm also not here for them bonding in grief.  Don't bond with her, Britt, use this opportunity to exit her orbit for good.

Also, neither of you should be on that bridge, even I know that.  How Britt even knows about it is a question mark.

In other news, nice scenes with Monica and Drew, and how nice that Drew values Monica and values the Quartermaines, a glaring difference from how Jason reacted when he last returned from the dead.

Edited December 2, 2021 by TeeVee329

[Suicidy]

9 hours ago, Katy M said:

Has it been 10 years?  I have no concept of time.

He may have been being petty, but it was illegal for Chase to hit him, and it's all the worse because he's a cop and should know better.  No pity on that front.

The suspension is beyond farcical.  A cop (in NY of all places) is suspended by a unilateral decision  from his boss in a holiday with no interaction from the police union?  Seriously?  This simply does not happen.  Chase would be put on immediate administrative leave pending an investigation.  With the union absolutely being involved.

keep in mind, Chase was not acting in his capacity as a LEO officer at the time of the incident, and has been neither arrested, nor convicted of a crime related to the event.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Suicidy

[Suicidy]

8 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

I loved all the Cassadine/Misfit Thanksgiving scenes.  Everyone was strong.  Esme was wearing the white sneakers again for some reason.  Her hair looked good curled.  I kind of loved Shawn just standing awkwardly in the back making concerned faces.  Like hasn’t everyone found themselves in the midst of family drama with no way of escaping?  It’s brutal.

I noticed the shoes too!  Probably because I’m really looking at her legs in any of the wide shots.  She has fantastic legs.  Not sure what’s up with the sneakers though.

[jsbt]

I have no idea what purpose poor Alexis/NLG could possibly still serve on this show or who she could be paired with (her daughters are all a wash at this point and need breaks or to be written out of town for awhile, IMO - Sam permanently) but those scenes were a lot of fun. And Charles Shaughnessy, against long odds IMO, is a hoot as Victor. I love Thaao Penghlis on DAYS for all his camp and pomp but this is very different from Thaao's last very rickety stint as Victor. They could really make this last for some time with the new Victor if they were smart, which they aren't, but he is so much more compelling than Wes Ramsey or ol' hickory ham Cyrus (I love Jeff Kober in his many classic movie and TV roles but this Cyrus mess has been a debacle every time I tune in).

I was surprised Alexis bluntly said she and Julian left things badly bc I remember their final scenes (before the bomb? I think?) being fairly melancholy and cordial, unless I missed some. But it fits because she was way too nice to him even then. She should've cut him out of her life after he tried to kill her.

UO: Esme should fuck Papa Nikolas for the bag and scandalize all involved.

Edited December 2, 2021 by jsbt

[nilyank]

1 minute ago, jsbt said:

UO: Esme should fuck Papa Nikolas for the bag and scandalize all involved.

Especially as she seems to have her own reasons for going after Ava (Ryan?) and it would take much for Nikolas to do something so stupid.

[Winston Wolfe]

3 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Okay, I wasn't eager to see Carly repeatedly rake Britt over the coals about Jason's "death", but I'm also not here for them bonding in grief.  Don't bond with her, Britt, use this opportunity to exit her orbit for good.

The basic problem with the Carly Corinthos character is that there's no one to push back at her. Even Luke's thinly-veiled contempt for her waned after time (anyone remember SJB's Carly once asking him, "Why do you hate me Uncle Luke?" Can you imagine this iteration of Carly EVER having to say that to anyone?). And with Brenda off the canvass (hopefully not forever) there's absolutely no one around to call Carly out for the wretched Harpy that she is. Makes for a very boring, one-note cardboard cut-out.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Winston Wolfe

[BlancheDevoreaux]

14 hours ago, Gam2 said:

How delightful to watch the crowd at Alexis’s house today! I am so very over the Corinthos and loved seeing the focus on more interesting people! Thank you, GH.

Here here! I'm more than prepared to have JPS/Valentin pushed as leading man over Sonny (any actor who can win me over after the horrible things they originally had the character do has to be a great actor) and CS/Victor is fantastic - you know he'll work to sell it. Nava has been an interesting couple with fantastic chemistry since day 1 and Esme/Spencer are younger actors who can actually act. Plus, the Cassadines have long ties to the history of the show. Let's let the Corinthos Cult die and push the Cassadines Era.

 

Edited December 2, 2021 by BlancheDevoreaux

[sacrebleu]

6 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

 

Also, neither of you should be on that bridge, even I know that.  How Britt even knows about it is a question mark.

 

I half expected Spinelli to show up, seeing as how it's the place to go to feel close to Jason. 😆

[30 Helens]

As much as everyone expects Carly to automatically unleash her venom on everyone in sight, I thought it was a smart and unexpected choice by the writers to have her allow room for Britt and her grief, too. I liked that scene, even if they were grieving over, you know, Jason.

I was amused by the flashbacks, seeing as how Carly in her boy-on-the-side period was clearly older than Carly in later episodes (when LW first appeared). They should have just shown the original scenes with Sarah Brown and pretended she aged into LW’s face and general appearance. I mean, we’ve all seen shows where teenaged Character X looks nothing like adult Character X, right?

Really, Sam? Turkey burgers? No wonder your kids are always hiding in their bedrooms and want nothing to do with you.

[YaddaYadda]

26 minutes ago, 30 Helens said:

Really, Sam? Turkey burgers? No wonder your kids are always hiding in their bedrooms and want nothing to do with you.

How are turkey burgers worse than pizza? 

[Katy M]

4 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

How are turkey burgers worse than pizza? 

Pizza's a tradition.  Turkey burgers are just a rip off.

[ulkis]

13 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

Valentin has expressed regrets for that decades-ago action.

Yeah but how much can the other characters trust in his sincerity? The audience knows him better. Especially since he keeps doing pretty crappy things. He kept helping Peter or at least not doing anything to hinder him, right up until the wedding.

I picture a 10 year old Valentin trying to hold a baby when they talk about that scene and crack up, but hey, it's canon.

[Desperado]

7 hours ago, jsbt said:

I have no idea what purpose poor Alexis/NLG could possibly still serve on this show or who she could be paired with (...)

UO: Esme should fuck Papa Nikolas for the bag and scandalize all involved.

I saw more chemistry with Alexis and Dante than Dante/Sam. I think they’re also trying to see if her and Shawn could work. I could also see her w/ CM’s Drew.

We don’t know how much the behind the scenes vaccine issues caused certain characters to be left with weird storylines or quickly disappear (Laura/GF), I’m hoping for better from now on.

Re: Esme/Nick yes, that would be fun.

[rur]

41 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

How are turkey burgers worse than pizza? 

Pizza is a perfect food. (don't dare to tell me otherwise)

Turkey burgers are that thing you've had in the freezer for months and have finally found an excuse to use. 

[Kim0820]

Each time they try to push Sonny/Jason as charitable givers, like giving the AIDs wing or now this bridge, it reminds me they paid for it with ill gotten gains.  Money that other people should still have.  

[statsgirl]

10 hours ago, TeeVee329 said:

Also, neither of you should be on that bridge, even I know that.  How Britt even knows about it is a question mark.

Britt said that Jason told her about the bridge in the apparent 275 months that they were on the run together.  <eyeroll>

I like turkey burgers but they are no substitute for a traditional dinner with friends and family being thankful in each other's company. It's somehow typical of Sam to think that it is. Thank goodness that Drew is back so those two kids have at least one decent parent!

I like Alexis so I want her kept away from Shawn who seems to be a waste of cytoplasm in a nice container. Unfortunately he's already corrupted Alexis who was Nik's supporter and second thought until Shawn convinced her that Nik is teh evul.

Edited December 2, 2021 by statsgirl

[Katy M]

1 hour ago, Desperado said:

saw more chemistry with Alexis and Dante

That's her daughter's brother.  While not actually incestuous, you have to admit there's an eww factor there.

I know it's also Sam's sister's brother, and she's been pregnant by his father.  

Edited December 2, 2021 by Katy M

[Daisy]

i guess in a way - it doesn't really matter what you eat. pizza, turkey burgers, chinese take out. it's more that you are with someone (or even by yourself - if that's what you choose to do) and just enjoy the holiday as you want. I spent most of my early twenties away from home so i developed my own traditions for both thanksgiving and Christmas, which is basically me watching all the amazing movies of my youth (Christmas Eve being the Sound of Music). Even though i moved back home - i rather do that than be around a lot of people. 

i actually kind of like it that the show is basically pointing out there is more than one way to enjoy this holiday - it's just more that you enjoy it.(or you know. mourn over a mobster, or whatever). it's not really pizza vs. chinese vs. turkey burgers vs. "traditional" foods. and what's better/appropriate.  (except pie. I will die on the hill that pumpkin pie is squishy and yucky... i kid... maybe ;) ). 

[Sheggy50G]

What's the over/under on that phone call Dante ignored being someone from the facility where Lulu is being kept???

[Hater]

2 hours ago, Katy M said:

That's her daughter's brother.  While not actually incestuous, you have to admit there's an eww factor there.

I know it's also Sam's sister's brother, and she's been pregnant by his father.  

Sam and Dante are cringe and the lack of romantic chemistry between the actors just makes these things more noticeable. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Hater

[30 Helens]

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

i actually kind of like it that the show is basically pointing out there is more than one way to enjoy this holiday - it's just more that you enjoy it.(or you know. mourn over a mobster, or whatever). it's not really pizza vs. chinese vs. turkey burgers vs. "traditional" foods.

Well, sure, we can appreciate that as adults. My point was that Sam bought turkey burgers for her kids. What kid is going to be happy about turkey burgers for Thanksgiving? Regular burgers, sure. Pizza, of course. But turkey burgers? Might as well just serve a big bowl of broccoli stuffing, too.

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, 30 Helens said:

Well, sure, we can appreciate that as adults. My point was that Sam bought turkey burgers for her kids. What kid is going to be happy about turkey burgers for Thanksgiving? Regular burgers, sure. Pizza, of course. But turkey burgers? Might as well just serve a big bowl of broccoli stuffing, too.

i don't know. when i ate meat as a kid/teen I loved turkey burgers so... I don't really get the whole. "oh my god! turkey burgers!" thing that's happening here. 

[jsbt]

4 hours ago, Desperado said:

I saw more chemistry with Alexis and Dante than Dante/Sam. I think they’re also trying to see if her and Shawn could work.

They paired them years ago (in order to keep the Black man who was the hottest dude on the show away from LW so she could be put with Roger Howarth instead), the answer was no.

I haven't watched much til recently so I admittedly was wondering if they've referenced Shawn and Alexis' C-tier romance designed to stick him with an older woman and forget about him.

Edited December 2, 2021 by jsbt

[Mirabelle]

9 hours ago, Winston Wolfe said:

The basic problem with the Carly Corinthos character is that there's no one to push back at her. Even Luke's thinly-veiled contempt for her waned after time (anyone remember SJB's Carly once asking him, "Why do you hate me Uncle Luke?" Can you imagine this iteration of Carly EVER having to say that to anyone?). And with Brenda off the canvass (hopefully not forever) there's absolutely no one around to call Carly out for the wretched Harpy that she is. Makes for a very boring, one-note cardboard cut-out.

I remember Jason warning Carly after AT's Emily had once again insulted her that Carly didn't have to be friends with his sister but if she was going to fight Emily it had to be out in the open because if he ever found Emily passed out drunk in a dumpster they were through. So basically Carly had to eat all of Emily's insults and Emily was not shy about expressing her contempt. 

[Melgaypet]

4 minutes ago, jsbt said:

They paired them years ago (in order to keep the Black man who was the hottest dude on the show away from LW so she could be put with Roger Howarth instead), the answer was no.

I was gonna say, the person on this show I've seen Sean Blakemore have the most chemistry with is Laura Wright, hands down, and the show refused to go there.

[Katy M]

23 minutes ago, Daisy said:

i don't know. when i ate meat as a kid/teen I loved turkey burgers so... I don't really get the whole. "oh my god! turkey burgers!" thing that's happening here. 

I don't have an issue with turkey burgers.  But, it's definitely not on par with a full on turkey dinner.

I watched Monday's epi with my mom who has not regularly watched since the early '90s. I was trying to explain the pizza thanksgiving tradition and how there's always somethign that ruins their dinner.  She said "Yeah, they didn't turn the over on once.,"  I actually remembered that from the '80s and it was Audrey Hardy that did that.  The useless info in my head is just useless, LOL.

[Daisy]

Today's Notes:

It's a newww day in Port Charles. They recasted Donna I think. that doesn't look like the same girl. 

Sasha decides to get out of bed w/o asking for help it ends as well as you think. Nina tricks Amy. it didn't take much.  Sasha: It's so important to honour your cousin. I gagged very hard. (unless they mean Old Mike) . they name the baby Liam Mike. It doesn't really flow off the tongue. 

Carly and Sonny who never know when to stop, complains that Cyrus doesn't know when to stop. Drew shows up. Infodumps. Sonny goes Jason always valued lives! Drew is like maybe i'm still in danger!! Maybe you know - find someone to de-brainwash you or something?

Alexis infodumps Sam. Sam  sleepily infodumps Alexis. Sam goes "Hey mom wanna be my partner in being  PI" lol. 

Valentin tells Anna about Bailey. Valentin is like i got to get revenge on Chase. (you know. because Chase told you he had no idea "Bailey was his"). And this was after Nina told him he should remember he did the same thing and people forgave him. okie dokie. Anna is like give it up. Val is like if I have to hurt, BLQ is going to hurt too. (again, no one is bringing up the fact that Valentin... didn't have to leave Bailey. It's like he finds out he's not biologically connected he wants nothing to do w/bailey vs. you know.. just being there for a baby he loves). Like. i'm not ignoring he has the right to be pissed off but the fact no one is pointing this out is frustrating. 

Maxie is all maybe we screwed up here because Chase isn't Valentin. I'm so tired of this now. BLQ is like you decided this now we can't lie more and Maxie is like well i sat two nights thinking how Valentin is a better fake daddy than Chase is and we need Valentin on our side. Why aren't they telling people the truth now. like geeze marie. Also. that colour/sweater does Maxie no favours. Chase says he agrees with maxie, but BLQ says we have to be committed. 

Carly sees nina and her head explodes. this makes me happy. 

[Katy M]

4 minutes ago, Daisy said:

hey name the baby Liam Mike

Liam Mike or Liam Michael?  I would say the latter is very Irish.  Is Brando from the Irish side of the family?

 

5 minutes ago, Daisy said:

Sonny goes Jason always valued lives!

That's why he took so many of them.

6 minutes ago, Daisy said:

It's like he finds out he's not biologically connected he wants nothing to do w/bailey

Unfortunately, that's not uncommon.

[Daisy]

1 minute ago, Katy M said:

Liam Mike or Liam Michael?  I would say the latter is very Irish.  Is Brando from the Irish side of the family?

 

Liam Mike. they were very clear on that. (Liam Michael sounds better so i don't know why they are going w/the nickname here)
 

2 minutes ago, Katy M said:

That's why he took so many of them.

because (according to sonny) he didn't care about them. He only valued the lives he cared about. (quote/unquote)
 

3 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Unfortunately, that's not uncommon.

i know. which is sad. But it would be nice if someone called him out on it. 

32 minutes ago, Katy M said:

I don't have an issue with turkey burgers.  But, it's definitely not on par with a full on turkey dinner.

yeah. but neither really is chinese or pizza. i guess that's my thing. like why the ribbing on the turkey burger thing when we saw several people mention that that's what they were having, and others were having chinese and pizza. I mean i can't really say that thanksgiving automatically = turkey, stuffing for me, it just equaled Lot of Food. (but then again i admit my weirdness so). 

[statsgirl]

Of yesterday's 5 stories, I like the Cassadine's at Alexis' and the Quartermaines was okay except the Jason kissing so that's about 30%.  Today I liked Maxie getting passionate about protecting Louise and Valentin talking to Anna. I don't care about Sasha and Brando but it was nice for their fans. I can do without Drew/Sonny/Carly's love fest about Jason and Sam talking to Alexis about Jason and Dante. (amazing how quickly to wow factor in that living room dropped.) And Dante talking to his mother Olivia about Jason and Sam.  So maybe 25^ over the 3 okay ones.

Good on the makeup people for giving Sasha minimum make as she's in her hospital bed.

My cheers to Maxie for growing a brain and pointing out all the problems with the Chase plan.

Oh god, I don't want Sam in all Alexis' stories. Why can't she join the Innocence Project instead?

"Poor Drew, surviving when Jason didn't." Carly and Sonny, narcissistic as always. What about "Poor Drew, held in a prison for years and away from his daughter? Not to mention, they couldn't drop Drew fast enough when they found out that he wasn't the real Jason so all this is hypocrisy.

That poor child playing Donna. All she wanted to do was sleep and Carly kept screeching beside her.

Was Brook Lynn on with Drew at any time? I wondered how she recognized him so quickly. From photos?

The cliff-hanger is Sonny and Carly seeing Nina at the hospital. I am so over this.

37 minutes ago, Mirabelle said:

I remember Jason warning Carly after AT's Emily had once again insulted her that Carly didn't have to be friends with his sister but if she was going to fight Emily it had to be out in the open because if he ever found Emily passed out drunk in a dumpster they were through. So basically Carly had to eat all of Emily's insults and Emily was not shy about expressing her contempt. 

But that was years ago. There is no one who snarks at Carly now, not even Britt.

12 minutes ago, Daisy said:

again, no one is bringing up the fact that Valentin... didn't have to leave Bailey.

"She's not yours. Get over it."  Brook Lynn wasn't exactly welcoming Valentin to continue having the same relationship with Bailey.

Chase and Brook Lynn need to tell Valentin the truth right now.

[Daisy]

4 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

"She's not yours. Get over it."  Brook Lynn wasn't exactly welcoming Valentin to continue having the same relationship with Bailey.

i legit missed that. was that at Thanksgiving? I don't remember that at the hospital. 

and I will still maintain that Valentin basically heard. "she's not yours." and he went hands off pretty quickly. like he's not even going "well screw Chase, i love her and blegh blegh blegh." just. :( she's not mine so REVENGE!

Edited December 2, 2021 by Daisy

[seasons]

Yikes Olivia, time to get those two inch roots done. 

 

The Sam and Dante love scene was hot only because DZ  was super sexy in the way that he played it. Seemed to me like he put in all the work, so to speak, KM practically slept through the whole thing. 

[Katy M]

14 minutes ago, Daisy said:

iam Mike. they were very clear on that. (Liam Michael sounds better so i don't know why they are going w/the nickname here)

Maybe to stress that they are naming after Mike and not Sonny. 

[statsgirl]

13 minutes ago, Daisy said:

i legit missed that. was that at Thanksgiving? I don't remember that at the hospital.

I think it was when Valentin signed himself out and went to the Q mansion to pack.

Today Valentin told Anna that the reason he and Charlotte moved into the Q home was so that he could be a fulltime father to his baby (somewhat of a retcon as it was also to protect her from Peter taking revenge on Valentin by hurting his baby and baby mama). With Chase now as Bailey's father, it's inevitable that Valentin's relationship with Bailey is going to change because Chase is going to want to do all the things that Valentin did like put her to bed, be there in the morning to get her up, be called 'Daddy' when she learns to speak. It isn't an all or nothing situation, Valentin can still be like an uncle to her, but he will never again be in the same relationship with Bailey again, that's Chase's place now. As Anna said, that is what Valentin is mourning. 

[mostlylurking]

Ok I have to admit I cried at the scenes with Sasha and Brando visiting the baby.  My babe was two months premature and spent a month in the NICU, so it hit me in the feels.  I’m not made of stone after all!

Ugh, and NOW Maxie decides BaileyLu would be safer if Valentin knew the truth??  This insight might have been a useful, oh I don’t know, AT THE BEGINNING of this whole farce??  

[YaddaYadda]

I don't even remember Maxie and Drew being that close before. But I know that he and Carly and Sonny weren't that close anymore after Jason came back. So the whole Carly running to him to hug him and whatever else felt extra fake to me. 

Olivia is happy that Sam and Dante have gotten close when she gave Lulu and Dustin so much grief . . . never change, Liv.

Unlike 99.9% of the posters here, I actually don't mind Sam and I liked her scenes with Alexis. Sam trying to give her mother some purpose and something to fall back on is actually nice. And does Danny know that his father is dead, that his uncle is back? 

Liam is not a bad name, although the name will always be associated to that waffle played by Scott Clifton over at B&B. I didn't really care about the scenes or the baby drama. I mostly hate storylines about sick babies. I hate having to watch babies (I know they're dolls) hooked up to tubes and ventilators. 

The little girl playing Donna is super cute. Bonus points: they gave her no lines.

Hey Drew, stop talking about your conditioning and get an appointment with Kevin Collins to break you out of it, stat! He did for Dante within a couple of hours. 

Great! Peter is back tomorrow. That scream you're hearing is me . . . screaming.

[Pingaponga]

I was so afraid they were going to name the baby Jason Mike. So very afraid.

I'm fine with Liam Mike, though Liam Michael would sound better.

[Gigi43]

Here I thought Liam meant "Eternal Waffler", at least in world of daytime. If this Liam makes it hopefully he'll grow up healthy and able to tell his wife apart from a mannequin. 

 

Carly and Sonny dropped Drew when he wasn't Jason, this is just a big f-u to Burton to move Drew back into that role (though, a punishment for Drew/CM to back stuck in their orbit.) Can they just get him in a scene with Curtis already who was his actual friend.  

 

I laughed at Maxie referring to Valentin as an "animal." He's pretty basic non-good guy but the so called "most-feared-Cassadine" has not lived up to that hype. The Cassadine family scenes worked for me the other day. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Gigi43

[mostlylurking]

1 hour ago, Daisy said:

again, no one is bringing up the fact that Valentin... didn't have to leave Bailey. It's like he finds out he's not biologically connected he wants nothing to do w/bailey vs. you know.. just being there for a baby he loves). Like. i'm not ignoring he has the right to be pissed off but the fact no one is pointing this out is frustrating. 

I think it’s different because they are trying to say Chase is the father and obviously Chase is going to want to parent his child.  It would be different if they were saying Bailey’s father was some horrible person who didn’t want to be a part of her life (or shouldn’t be a part of her life, say someone like PETER).  Then I think there would still be a place for Valentin in Bailey’s life but with all the information he has now I don’t think that would be possible.

[Daisy]

2 minutes ago, mostlylurking said:

I think it’s different because they are trying to say Chase is the father and obviously Chase is going to want to parent his child.  It would be different if they were saying Bailey’s father was some horrible person who didn’t want to be a part of her life (or shouldn’t be a part of her life, say someone like PETER).  Then I think there would still be a place for Valentin in Bailey’s life but with all the information he has now I don’t think that would be possible.

probably. it's one of those things - like if they mentioned it, and they said that you could go. "oh, okay." it doesn't need to be spelled out but just acknowledging it would be nice at times. 

[ffwbe]

Maxie disparages Chase and his ability to protect her baby (which ungrateful much) only to come upon Drew at the end of the episode. I’m guessing that wasn’t a coincidence and fear that was a chem test. Yet another guy who looks too old for her 

[YaddaYadda]

5 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

I’m guessing that wasn’t a coincidence and fear that was a chem test.

That's the impression I got with the chem testing.

5 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Yet another guy who looks too old for her 

Cuz he is. Nothing against CM who I think looks great, but he has 15 years on her.

[Tenshinhan]

I always wanted them to try Shawn/Liz.

 

1 hour ago, Katy M said:

Is Brando from the Irish side of the family?

I think I remember Gladys going on about her Irish ancestry in past episodes.

[rur]

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

i don't know. when i ate meat as a kid/teen I loved turkey burgers so... I don't really get the whole. "oh my god! turkey burgers!" thing that's happening here. 

Personally, I think turkey burgers lack flavor. But I'm an adult. And I'll acknowledge that most kids like burgers, so it's an easy go-to for a meal. I think that's where part of the turkey  burger discussion is rooted. Low-energy Sam went the quick and easy route. It probably would have been better for her just to have had a line about how the kids were much happier with hamburgers than they would have been with (insert your choice of food here). IMO, the writers making them turkey burgers because of Thanksgiving just made her look a bit lazy. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by rur

[perkie1968]

35 minutes ago, Tenshinhan said:

Is Brando from the Irish side of the family?

They weren't naming him Liam for Irish purposes but because it means "strong willed warrior" which they believe he's strong because he's fighting to survive.  It's rather a sweet name.  Plus, Im pretty sure the middle name would officially be Michael and they're just saying Mike so we make the connection to Sonny's father, who Brando was close to.  

[CeChase]

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

 

Unlike 99.9% of the posters here, I actually don't mind Sam and I liked her scenes with Alexis. Sam trying to give her mother some purpose and something to fall back on is actually nice. And does Danny know that his father is dead, that his uncle is back? 

 

I always love Davis girl scenes, and I love the idea of Sam and Alexis going into the PI business together.   I really like Sante as well, so I also differ from most here.  Though on Twitter Sante seems popular.   From what I see anyway, I could be wrong of course. 

[statsgirl]

10 minutes ago, rur said:

IMO, the writers making them turkey burgers because of Thanksgiving just made her look a bit lazy. 

A bit lazy? Monica's daycare raise those kids. Even on a soap opera where children disappear upstairs for years, she and Jason were hands off like no one else.

49 minutes ago, ffwbe said:

Yet another guy who looks too old for her 

But who is there in the right age group?  Sasha has Brando, Brook Lynn has Chase (yet another cop), Sam has Dante and Maxie wouldn't feel right about dating her best friend's husband.

[Hater]

Sam is disliked here because she's a terrible character played by a poor actress who has barely tried the last few years (throwing that glass this week, need I say more?). This is coming from someone who used to support KM (I even went to meet her in person) but her acting and her character just suck and I'm sticking to that.  There is pretty much nothing she nor Sam can do to change my opinion at this point.  I used to like Drew/Sam too and want Drew to have no romantic interest in Sam moving forward.   Drew will always deserve better than her.

If this show needs to be stuck with Sam, at least call up Lindsay Hartley.

Edited December 2, 2021 by Hater

[CeChase]

13 minutes ago, Hater said:

Sam is disliked here because she's a terrible character played by a poor actress who has barely tried the last few years (throwing that glass this week, need I say more?). This is coming from someone who used to support KM (I even went to meet her in person) but her acting and her character just suck and I'm sticking to that.  There is pretty much nothing she nor Sam can do to change my opinion at this point.  I used to like Drew/Sam too and want Drew to have no romantic interest in Sam moving forward.   Drew will always deserve better than her.

If this show needs to be stuck with Sam, at least call up Lindsay Hartley.

I saw that episode after reading the posts here about it, and I thought it was fine and she threw the glass in a normal way.   Not the Sonny way, but that makes sense for the character.  The only thing I've ever seen that lived up to the things people said about it, was that outfit that one time.    She has become low energy, I can't argue that, but there are so many hyper characters on the show that it doesn't bother me.   

I don't like to comment much on women's looks, but I do think people who make remarks about the work Kemo has had done, must have blinders on about Hartley, because I personally found her difficult to look at.     I don't judge because I understand the difficulty of women aging on screen, but I don't get the part where Kemo has painful work but Hartley is great, I really don't. 

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3 hours ago, jsbt said:

I haven't watched much til recently so I admittedly was wondering if they've referenced Shawn and Alexis' C-tier romance designed to stick him with an older woman and forget about him.

I think they've only referenced the old relationship once or twice. I don't think they shuffled Shawn off to Alexis because they wanted to forget him. It's not like Alexis/NLG is treated like most "older" actresses on soaps. She still gets front-burner stories, including back when Shawn was paired with her (though their pairing never was as popular as some of her other ones.) From what I remember, I could be wrong, Shawn and Alexis were actually one of those pairings where the audience noticed chemistry and then they were paired together. I remember a lot of people liking the potential pairing. Unfortunately, once they got together, it wasn't as good - then he became a Sonny lackey, which was the end of that.

 

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

Valentin tells Anna about Bailey. Valentin is like i got to get revenge on Chase. (you know. because Chase told you he had no idea "Bailey was his"). And this was after Nina told him he should remember he did the same thing and people forgave him. okie dokie.

Valentin's hypocrisy is just so annoying. And, yes, Chase told him that he was kept in the dark as much as he was, so why he's determined to get revenge on both Chase and BrookLynn makes no sense, especially since it seems he deliberately goaded Chase on Thanksgiving, just to punish him.

 

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

like why the ribbing on the turkey burger thing when we saw several people mention that that's what they were having, and others were having chinese and pizza.

Because it's Sam.

 

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

Unlike 99.9% of the posters here, I actually don't mind Sam and I liked her scenes with Alexis. Sam trying to give her mother some purpose and something to fall back on is actually nice. And does Danny know that his father is dead, that his uncle is back? 

I loved the scenes between Alexis and Sam as well. I don't think Sam is nearly as bad, or low energy, as people talk about.

 

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

But that was years ago. There is no one who snarks at Carly now, not even Britt.

Nina's been allowed to do it recently. Ava does sometimes as well - she rightfully took pleasure in needling Carly about Nina and Sonny's relationship. Nik was able to snark at her a couple of times recently, too.

 

2 hours ago, Daisy said:

Liam Mike. they were very clear on that. (Liam Michael sounds better so i don't know why they are going w/the nickname here)

I think it's also to make clear that the middle name is not the same as her ex Michael, which would be a little odd.

 

1 hour ago, YaddaYadda said:

Cuz he is. Nothing against CM who I think looks great, but he has 15 years on her.

I don't think the age difference really matters. They're both consenting adults.

 

40 minutes ago, rur said:

Personally, I think turkey burgers lack flavor. But I'm an adult. And I'll acknowledge that most kids like burgers, so it's an easy go-to for a meal. I think that's where part of the turkey  burger discussion is rooted. Low-energy Sam went the quick and easy route.

She probably went the quick and easy route because, I don't believe having Thanksgiving at the Penthouse was the original plan, but she decided to stay in after the Jason news.

 

26 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Even on a soap opera where children disappear upstairs for years, she and Jason were hands off like no one else.

I don't think that's true. Most soap parents aren't seen with their kids that much, unless their kids serve some sort of storyline purpose (or the audience responds to a particular child actor - like Violet.) Granted this was during the early days of the pandemic, but how often did we see Ava with Avery when she had custody of her after Sonny "died?" Before this autism story, how often did we see Olivia with Leo? There was a running joke about Donna all but disappearing at some point, before she was suddenly SORASed recently. 

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I saw that episode after reading the posts here about it, and I thought it was fine and she threw the glass in a normal way.   Not the Sonny way, but that makes sense for the character. 

This! I really don't know what was so weird about the glass throwing. Looked normal enough to me. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by FilmTVGeek80