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I feel the exact opposite. When it was Claire vs. Ciara I was more on Claire's side most of the time because Ciara was ridiculous especially with her wanting revenge on Claire over Theo. Claire would do stupid things but they were mostly trivial things. Claire kind of lost my support when we found out she tried to BURN HER AUNT ALIVE for basically no reason. Why would I ever root for a character who did that? I don't care how much "fun" the actress seems to be having. Don't get me wrong, while I do think the actresses' performance is way too over the top at times, some of the things they've had her do has been entertaining (the screaming into the pillow thing) but not enough for me to want to see Claire prevail here or feel any sympathy for her. She lost me, even more, when she joined forces with Jack and Eve and pulled that stunt with barging into the loft, having Haley arrested, and filming it. I wanted all three of them to go down hard after that. And the thing is, Tripp and Haley attempting to get married wouldn't even be happening if Claire hadn't gone behind their backs and done that. Like a lot of the crappy situations that Claire has found herself in recently, this is a problem of her own making. Is Tripp being a crappy boyfriend? Sure. But he knows that and has admitted it and I love the way the actor plays certain things with Claire in that he knows he's doing something not great when it comes to her and does feel bad about it. While Tripp doesn't know the things that Claire has done, I do, so that makes any sympathy I could possibly have for her go right out the window because her behavior is faaaaaar worse than Tripp's. It also doesn't help that Claire has had choices every step of the way here. When Tripp approached Claire about hiding Haley at the loft he asked her how she felt about it. He was prepared to try and find someplace else to hide her. Sure, he would have been mad if Claire had admitted the truth and said she didn't want Haley there but she had the option to be honest but instead she choose to lie and be completely two-faced to Tripp and Haley and then go behind their backs to do something that could have landed Tripp, who she claims to care about so much, in a heap of trouble. Even now with Tripp and Haley getting married she had other choices. Tripp admitted he was being a bad boyfriend and he was asking a lot of her and told her she could break up with him. Again, not a choice that Claire liked but she had that option. She had every right to be mad at what Tripp was asking of her and every right to dump him but once again she chose to lie and hatch schemes behind everyone's backs. She's an asshole and I relish seeing her plans, hopefully soon, blow up in her face.

Disagree. First of all, how is Jordan throwing stones? Yes, Jordan has done some shady things in her life but marrying a serial killer or being a serial killer herself isn't one. Jordan didn't set out to hurt Liz or her children. A serial killer was at large. Stopping him took precedent over Liz, or even her children's, hurt feelings. And, Jordan did apologize. She said she was sorry for any hurt that was caused but she rightly pointed out that any trust issues between Liz and Franco or any issues with Franco's serial killer past are on Liz and Franco. Forgiveness and redemption are all well and good but there are certain things in life you can't walk back and being a serial killer is one of them (tumor excuse or not.) Liz decided to commit and marry a former serial killer. If she's not prepared to face the consequences of that - which includes people easily believing Franco could have killed again that is on her. And I couldn't care less about Liz (who is the one voluntarily intertwining her life with Franco knowing full well what he's done) getting blowback because of her husband's crimes. Her kids are the ones I feel sorry for - the ones who had no say in the man their mother brought into their lives. As Cameron told Trina, his issues with Franco pre-date his being accused of committing Ryan's crimes. And, Liz can whine and complain all she wants to about protecting her kids but she did a horrible job of it the last few weeks. Though, on that note, what era does she thinks she lives in. Yes, if she had some kind of heads up she could have sent the kids out of town but at most that would have protected Aiden but the internet exists now. There's little chance Cameron and/or Jake wouldn't have heard about what Franco was accused of and given the kind of messages Aiden was getting through that game he would have probably still heard about it, too. While she didn't have a heads up, she still could have handled it much better than she did. Cameron got beat up at school and was appropriately freaked out about what was going on and, other than saying that she would talk to Cameron's school, she cared fuck all about listening to Cameron's concerns. She acted like he was incredibly out of line not to have complete faith in Franco like she did. She was very Carly-esque in her behavior. And, now that she knows he didn't kill anyone NOW she wants to reassess their relationship. Also, bottom line, Liz is a nurse and apparently, for some reason, Jordan is her patient. She has no business berating her patient. She's angry at Jordan then take that up another time when the woman isn't lying in a hospital bed. If she can't do that have another nurse check Jordan's vitals or whatever Liz was doing in that room.

I hope you can hear me screaming "yes, girl!" at both these points, especially Jordan telling Liz off. How dare Liz use her position as a nurse to go in there and berate a patient! Yes, Jordan's plan was as stupid as hell, but it did work. And, while she did strong arm Franco, ultimately the decision was his and as he told Liz today he would do the same thing. Cameron's distrust of Franco isn't just because of thinking Franco was a serial killer now but because of his serial killer past. If Liz doesn't want to deal with that she shouldn't have married a serial killer.

She went off to get married. She's not planning on spending months and months away from Avery. She's allowed to go away for a few days, especially since she doesn't have full custody. Ava is pretty much the only one who has displayed consistent grief over Kiki. She's not all about having sex with Ryan. She and Ryan haven't spent all of their time in bed - they've had maybe three love scenes including today. She's also talked extensively, especially with Julian, about how "Kevin" is the one thing keeping her going and making her even the slightest bit happy. Even real-life people grieving do manage to find moments of happiness. Sticking it to Carly is probably something that will always bring Ava some joy (which it would for any real person who had the misfortune to know someone like Carly.) Any anger she'd have against Kevin would be well-earned given the huge part he played in Ryan's actions. I think Ava is well aware of how desperate she is for love. It was the main aspect of her relationship with Griffin and her desperation for him to love her. Again, she's talked recently about how "Kevin" is the first person to really love her without her having to jump through hoops and how much she's wanted that. It may have been Trina's idea but none of the other three teens batted an eye at lying to their parents and had no problem with Trina's fake ID. If she's shady for that, they're all shady. She wasn't duplicitous to her friend Cameron when she listened to him today and gave him some fairly decent advice. She hasn't given up Avery. Currently, she and Sonny have joint custody. They've been fighting incessantly over custody for years. I'd love for Ava to fight for sole custody, but the show is never going to allow Sonny and Carly to lose completely on this front (even when Ava won sole custody, the show found some assinine way to have Sonny and Carly trick Ava and keep Avery with them) and I'm tired of seeing them fight over this. I, at least I hope anyway, that the show had Ava gain leverage to work out joint custody so they could have them stop fighting over this for the millionth time.

Yes! I didn't mention it in my post but I was thinking about that as well. I think Tony Curtis (might have been someone else) actually one of those people who went on the record about that and I remember being so enraged when I read things like that and definitely blaming assholes like that for why it didn't win.

This is nothing IMO like Crash winning. I think Crash is derided for being a somewhat subpar film but also for beating something that has become beloved by a lot of people. I may be a bit biased because I love Brokeback Mountain and was devastated when it lost. There were a lot of worthy contenders that year but BM was the frontrunner. I don't think it was until Crash won the SAG ensemble award that people really started to think it could beat BM, but it was still a shock when it happened. Until some of these later (IMO overblown) controversies, Green Book has been one of the frontrunners since it debuted to pretty rapturous reviews at TIFF. It won the Golden Globe for drama and The Producers Guild award. I think people started to believe it would suffer the same fate as 3 Billboards which gotten taken down, partly by, again overblown controversies. But it should have never been counted out, especially since unlike with Brokeback there was no clear frontrunner GB stole this from. I was thinking the exact same thing!

It's not unprecedented. I believe, not quite sure, Marcus Gay Harden wasn't nominated the year she won the supporting actress Oscar. And Christop Walz wasn't nominated when he won for Django Unchained. I think it's still a race between him and Christian Bale. Denzel Washington won the SAG for Fences but Casey Affleck won the Oscar. I think there have been other splits like that. I think Viola Davis won the SAG but Meryl Streep won the Oscar. The BAFTAs might make things clearer or not. Bale won the Globe and Critics' Choice. And Tami has won the Globe and SAG.

Are you confusing BA with Spin? Why call him a dweeb? Did he do something to you personally? And it's called being friends. BA and SBu are good friends. It's not about "living up his ass." And, why not post a pic of them together? You may not like him - or a lot of people here - but plenty of people did/do like Spinelli.

Yeah, I feel that way often. For some reason, I don 't necessarily feel that way about ASIB for some reason, but I've felt that way about movies like La La Land.

She has daddy issues because her dad up and disappeared out of her life. Why did he disappear out of her life - because Sonny KILLLED HIM! How does any self-respecting woman bed the guy who did that, no matter how nice he's being towards her? I actually agree with you that MB and EH have chemistry and I hate Sonny/Carly enough, and especially Carly, to not mind seeing that relationship blow up and see Carly's head explode (even if it would just be temporary.) But the show would need to do another retcon of this storyline and not have Sonny be the one who killed Vincent otherwise it's way too much ick and does the character of Margeaux no favors whatsoever.

She's definitely not wrong. I think we can all see the story writing on the wall. As I said, it's kind of nice that they're not having Carly be oblivious and act like Sonny would never cheat but it's still pathetic that she trusts her husband so little and is still with him. Not to defend Carly at all, but has she ever actually cheated on Sonny? I know she's cheated on Jax, Franco, Tony, and technically AJ but I don't remember her cheating on Sonny (I don't think she cheated on him with Lorenzo but I could be mistaken.)

I don't even know how I'm typing this because my eyes rolled so far after those Carly/Jason scenes I still haven't been able to catch them yet. I know we were supposed to feel sorry for Carly, but forget the fact I can never feel sorry for that woman but there were also so many enraging, embarrassing, annoying things in that conversation. I'll start with it being pathetic that Carly is married to a man that she trusts so little that him even being slightly nice to another woman makes her immediately assume that he'll cheat again. I guess on the one hand, I could give them props that they're not having Carly ignore the obvious signs of potential infidelity but it still makes her look pathetic. Then to top it off the propping of Carly and Sonny was ridiculous as usual. So all of the women Sonny has had dalliances with were all so weak compared to the uber strong and brave Carly. It was also kind of hilarious since Sam was one of those women and I'd love for her to hear how much Jason agrees how weak she is in comparison to Carly. And then the most enraging part was the explanation why those other relationships didn't work out - because THEY failed SONNY? They failed him? It would be one thing if I could just chalk it up to Sonny's biggest enablers Carly and Jason having these ridiculous views but I think the show actually wants us to believe this crap as well. Nina is pretty much as pathetic as Carly. When she finds out about Valentin's Sasha deception I'm not going to feel sorry for her at all.

As you've demonstrated not everyone does. Talent is in the eye of the beholder. Some people like, some people don't (I happen to be one of the ones that do.) If you already don't like her no one is going to be able to explain in a satisfactory way why they do.