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13 minutes ago, tveyeonyou said:

What's with "Mike" and Nina visiting a town called Corinth? Was it founded by Sonny Corinthos's ancestors? Didn't ring a bell with even Nina? Why do I watch this show?

That's the town where "Loving" took place.

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Opening scene, Nina to Smike: the words boring and mundane spring to mind.

Me: yup, you’ve just summed up this entire story in two words. 
 

are the writers punking us?

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33 minutes ago, Katy M said:

Isn't that where Loving took place?

 

33 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

That's the town where "Loving" took place.

Thank you my friends, I never watched Loving. Although it wouldn't surprise me if MB thinks it's somehow all about Sonny 😆

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1 hour ago, tveyeonyou said:

What's with "Mike" and Nina visiting a town called Corinth? Was it founded by Sonny Corinthos's ancestors? 

Seriously.  They go to "Corinth" and Sonny doesn't react/have a glimmer of recognition. Whatever, Show.

On 5/16/2021 at 6:36 AM, 30 Helens said:

Oh, and by the way, Michael? Don’t talk about your wife’s “unforgettable kisses” in the context of her kissing your son. It’s icky and weird.

It's gross and also, Willow is not his wife right now. They signed the annulment papers, so they're not anything at the moment - not spouses or fiances. Shut up, Michael.

On 5/16/2021 at 10:23 AM, dubbel zout said:

Cyrus just oozes around town making dumb, vague threats. He killed a minion recently, but it wasn't someone we knew or cared about, so BFD.

I would love for Sasha to say Peter is the father of her baby; conceived when they were both having a bad night. Then hopefully, Cyrus will take action.
Back-up option: Brando tells Cyrus that Michael is the father, from a night when it seemed like Michael and Sasha were getting back together, but it didn't work out.

On 5/17/2021 at 8:35 AM, dubbel zout said:

None of the women paired with Michael have fared well. They all seem to lose any independence and personality they might have had.

Not to mention their lives. 

I am enjoying the Elizabeth and Finn scenes.  I like Elizabeth in mom and healthcare professional mode, not being wasted endlessly propping Franco/Howarth.  On the other hand, Anna comes off as spineless for asking Finn to apologize to Elizabeth for her.

I will also say TR and FH do an excellent job (the Sean passed away news is just the latest example) of showing how Anna and Robert know each other, and love each other, like nobody else can.

I understand that Sean was Maxie's godfather, but did she ever actually know him past the toddler years? Her sobbing on Anna took me by surprise, but I guess the tears can be blamed on pregnancy hormones.  So Sean was godfather to both Maxie and Robin?

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16 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

I understand that Sean was Maxie's godfather, but did she ever actually know him past the toddler years? Her sobbing on Anna took me by surprise, but I guess the tears can be blamed on pregnancy hormones.  So Sean was godfather to both Maxie and Robin?

I just looked it up and he was.  My memory said tony was the godfather.  Even after having verified via Youtube I still think tony would have made more sense.

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Why hasn't anyone contacted Frisco about helping Maxie out with the baby and Peter? Isn't he the head of the WSB? I realize he turned into a deadbeat dad, but I'm pretty sure he'd ensure his daughter and grandchild were safe from a psychopath.

Or would that be too easy?

 

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4 hours ago, mostlylurking said:

Valentin is giving me life lately!

They've really done a 180 on the character. You'd never know he came on as a sobbing mess who was once a teenage hunchback. He had some moments in the past, but for the past year or so he's been delightful.

2 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Between that and the heavy handed "strips malls destroy towns", it's was PSA Hospital today.

"Heavy handed" is being polite. Good grief.

Get a grip, Olivia. You aren't some shy, shrinking violet. So what if Valentin saw your boobs or whatever? It's not like he took pictures and plastered them all over Instagram.

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I swear to God if this whole Nixon Falls thing was designed to prop the idea that Sonny is actually a benevolent mobster who is needed to keep bad, evil mobsters from ruining towns and cities, I will lose my shit! 

It's like that horrible "Sonny" episode where they insinuated that if Sonny hadn't shot Joe Scully, it would have resulted in a global apocalypse. 

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1 hour ago, Bringonthedrama said:

It's gross and also, Willow is not his wife right now. They signed the annulment papers, so they're not anything at the moment - not spouses or fiances. Shut up, Michael.

And today we were treated to Michael telling Willow she can sit in the back if she can't keep her hands to herself.

We get it, show. Michael and Willow are hot (no they're not) and ooze sexuality (they don't). We get it, they wanna jump each others bones badly, but poor sick Chase is ruining the whole thing.

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Valentin and BL flirting today was great.  Thanks, show, for screwing them up with this stupid baby scheme of hers. 

I've lost hope that this Nixon Falls storyline is every going to be resolved.  I'm already picturing ~Mike making his famous bolognese for Thanksgiving because even the turkeys have abandoned the town.

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Jason thinks you can just wave a Canadian passport at the hospital and its free health care? You still need a musical card.

 

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My memory is foggy but I could have sworn that Corinth became a dying town/ghost town when a serial kller ended up killing half the cast of Loving and the other half seeking refuge in NYC or The City.

Why is this story with Sonny in the dumbest town in the world still going. I am just waiting for Eli to reveal that Cyrus is actually payrolling him to destroy small town America. Cyrus will be most unhappy if he realizes that Mike the amnesiac barman who apppear in town days after Sonny "died."

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Anyone else still looking for Shiloh laying crumpled at the bottom of that lighthouse staircase? 

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Previews...I'm so tired of every single one featuring a snippet of Carly being bitchily smug or smugly bitchy.  I'm so tired of Carly.  Shuuuuuut uuuuuup.

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4 hours ago, TVbitch said:

I swear to God if this whole Nixon Falls thing was designed to prop the idea that Sonny is actually a benevolent mobster who is needed to keep bad, evil mobsters from ruining towns and cities, I will lose my shit! 

It's like that horrible "Sonny" episode where they insinuated that if Sonny hadn't shot Joe Scully, it would have resulted in a global apocalypse. 

I find it especially ironic considering that shaking down small businesses in PC for protection money is like the 1 mob activity that the show has confirmed Sonny does. 

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I didn’t mind seeing Valentin running around in a towel, but you’d think a home like that would have a couple en suites to spare for Valentin and Charlotte.  This isn’t the second floor of Kelly’s.

Just when I thought the Nixon Falls storyline couldn’t get more tedious... I wanted to punch Nina every time she said CUTE LITTLE TOWNS.

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3 hours ago, Artsda said:

You still need a musical card.

I am guessing you got auto corrected and meant a medical card. 🙃

Yes, one would need a  provincial health care card/number. I didn't quite catch which Province they are in but they said lighthouse, so I am guessing Atlantic Coast.

In an emergency, I am sure anyone would be treated but for Britt to just go see a doc without a Health Care number/id? Yeah, no.

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13 hours ago, GHScorpiosRule said:

And Monica too, because those two were involved and really cared about each other.

I did not know that...so that is why Robert had to talk to Monica separately.

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11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

That's the town where "Loving" took place.

Yes, and I think it was last visited on GH in 2013, when Luke and Holly were tracking Jerry Jacks. They stayed at the Alden mansion, which was one of the Loving sites. 

I guess 2013 was before Elijah and his sinister strip mall ruined the town. I'm just barely able to pay enough attention to this story to get the essentials. What was up with that day player whose name tag Sonny read, who then gave him and Nina background information? She sounded so uncertain with the lines that it was as if she were doing improv. 

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11 hours ago, tveyeonyou said:

What's with "Mike" and Nina visiting a town called Corinth? Was it founded by Sonny Corinthos's ancestors? 

I know nothing about Loving, so I also raised an eyebrow at that. Maybe this will be the the key to Sonny uncovering his past, as he learns he bears a striking resemblance to the town founder, Jebediah Corinthos. And then his noble spirit will be embiggened. 

12 hours ago, statsgirl said:

Between that and the heavy handed "strips malls destroy towns", it's was PSA Hospital today.

Yeah, I guess Elijah= Walmart now? I thought he was just a con artist and embezzler, but turns out he’s destroying Mom & Pop America. Until Nina and “Mike” stop him and town cuteness is restored!

8 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Valentin and BL flirting today was great.  Thanks, show, for screwing them up with this stupid baby scheme of hers. 

What is up with this show making me love Brook Lynn?! First the Ethel and Lucy of it all with Maxie, and now the sassy chemistry with Valentin. Whatever it is, I’m here for it!

17 minutes ago, Asp Burger said:

What was up with that day player whose name tag Sonny read, who then gave him and Nina background information? She sounded so uncertain with the lines that it was as if she were doing improv. 

Yes, that was very odd. I was thinking maybe a fan who won a bit part? Cameraman’s girlfriend? Not a polished actress.

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Ugh Olivia. Dial it back a bit. Her shrieking scared my cat and my dog.

 

Loving Valentin and Brook Lynn storyline. They have unexpected but great chemistry. And JPS in a towel was a nice surprise for me! Then he comes down the stairs checking himself out in the mirror, brushing off his jacket while Olivia is freaking out. He has a great sense of subtle and not so subtle comedy. Check out his imdb he's been on a lot of shows, especially funny on Frasier and Seinfeld.

Poor direction to move from the scene with Anna telling Robert about Sean's passing to Olivia over acting.

 

I love Laura Wright but Carly is what she is. Damn good actress to make her so unbearable. LW seems so cool and laid back on her Instagram. And even Wes seems fun in real life. Lots of gratitude stuff from LW and they seem like they really have fun together, not taking themselves too seriously.

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5 hours ago, bannana said:

In an emergency, I am sure anyone would be treated but for Britt to just go see a doc without a Health Care number/id? Yeah, no.

Yes, you need a card, even if you live in the province if you want to be treated. They will not turn you away, but you will be charged for it. Fours years ago, my brother broke his ankle playing soccer, pretty nasty fracture, and because he doesn't believe in putting his cards in his wallet (driver's license? somewhere in the car. Medical card? I don't know where it is, nothing's gonna happen to me!) he was admitted to the hospital without his card but they had to call the province's healthcare provider about the missing card, so they faxed the hospital with his insurance card number so that he wouldn't be charged for it. 

So never mind Britt and Jason walking anywhere waving their passports around. They'll know that you're trying to game the system right away.

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11 hours ago, Cheyanne11 said:

Valentin and BL flirting today was great.  Thanks, show, for screwing them up with this stupid baby scheme of hers. 

AS and JPS have chemistry.  I wonder if the show will capitalize on that after the baby lie blows up in BL's face. Eh, what am I thinking? No way the writers will let a Q couple compete with the fire that is Michael/WIllow.

10 hours ago, nilyank said:

I am just waiting for Eli to reveal that Cyrus is actually payrolling him to destroy small town America.

Yesterday I did wonder if they'd connect Cyrus to this story somehow. 

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59 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:
11 hours ago, nilyank said:

I am just waiting for Eli to reveal that Cyrus is actually payrolling him to destroy small town America.

Yesterday I did wonder if they'd connect Cyrus to this story somehow. 

I'm waiting for it, too.  Everyone knows the Mob loves to dabble in 'evil strip malls.'

This whole plot is just so stupid.  Small towns dying out would be more likely to happen if a big corporation that had a presence in the town--thus employee citizens--up and left, not because a strip mall and outlets sprung up.

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39 minutes ago, Cheyanne11 said:

This whole plot is just so stupid.  Small towns dying out would be more likely to happen if a big corporation that had a presence in the town--thus employee citizens--up and left, not because a strip mall and outlets sprung up.

Right? The mom-and-pop stores would go out of business, but those employees could find jobs at the new retail businesses, as evil as they might be.

I'll never understand how the writers continually botch even the easy stories.

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8 hours ago, bannana said:

I did not know that...so that is why Robert had to talk to Monica separately.

Oh yes. They had a hot affair going for awhile. And then, someone, I can't recall, got Tiffany to break them up, or something. But Tiffany and Sean then fell in love, and that's all she wrote.

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4 minutes ago, dubbel zout said:

he mom-and-pop stores would go out of business, but those employees could find jobs at the new retail businesses, as evil as they might be.

I'll never understand how the writers continually botch even the easy stories.

The entire monologue from the extra about how "sure, I'm glad the outlets/etc provided jobs, but it's just not the same" was eyerolling.  Fits right into this weird 1950's landscape the writers are painting, right down to how no one seems to know how to use the Internet to find out who ~Mike might be.  

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15 hours ago, bannana said:

I didn't quite catch which Province they are in but they said lighthouse

Lighthouse?  Probably in Saskatchewan for these writers...it's off the coast of Bolivia.

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When did Cyrus become obsessed with Sasha? Why would he care who she dates and who impregnated her? Didn't he ask Brando to kill her? LOL!! After she OD'ed on his bad/test drugs?!?!?!! 

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!! This is so lame. If Cryus had it his way, she would be dead!! I know they are struggling to find a way to fit LW/Carly in this plot too, but this makes no sense! I'm really scratching my head over this retcon/rewrite. 

I may be in the minority, but I like Brando/Sasha. To me, they are cute together. I don't want them to have a baby, but I don't mind them either. 

Chase - I get his frustration. No one likes to be sick, but I don't understand why he wants to leave the hospital so bad. Does he not understand that he almost died twice (or was it three times)? I know the show just wants to further use him to for Millow angst, but you would think that he'd be a bit cautious about leaving since he has almost died a few times now. Judging on Willow's outfit, I think he's been at the hospital for a week or two. I could understand his desire to leave if he had been at the hospital for months now w/o resolution in sight, but I don't think its' been that long. 

Oh, aren't Millow so self-sacrificing and kind! Ugh! 🤢 These two make me sick. Waiting until someone is better to just dump them is NOT the kind thing to do. It is NOT treating that person w/dignity and respect. Right now, while Chase is relatively okay, Willow should tell him that she's not in love w/him anymore and that she only wants to be there for him as a friend. Will it be hard? Yup, but that's on Willow. She should have told him the moment she knew she was wasting his time. I just can't w/her and Michael. They are both such garbage ppl!

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5 hours ago, dubbel zout said:

AS and JPS have chemistry.  I wonder if the show will capitalize on that after the baby lie blows up in BL's face. Eh, what am I thinking? No way the writers will let a Q couple compete with the fire that is Michael/WIllow.

 

It's remarkable how much tptb go all in on the Corinthii. Willow had fantastic chemistry with Chase but they get broken up so we can have the Nytol replacement that is Millow. Alkazar had this charisma that was undeniable so he had to be sacrificed at the alter of Sonny. Ava is flawed and complex and shines with all her scene partners but she has to play second fiddle to Carly. Dante/DZ has shown great chemistry with Lulu (more JMB than ER, but still good with both) so now let's saddle him with Sam who acts like she just watched Millow scenes and can't stay awake. Or maybe not because Jason was starting to light up around Britt, and we can't have him with someone outside Clan Corinthos, so let's have Sam sniff around him again.

The list of actors/characters on this show who are so much better than Sonny, Carly, Michael, Jason, and Sam is so terribly long, but we mustn't even consider letting JPS/Valentin, MW/Ava, MC/Nik, JS/Chase, or even JK/Cyrus get a nice push, and forget the vets getting screen time that isn't mostly used to prop As the Mob Turns.

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18 hours ago, YaddaYadda said:

We get it, show. Michael and Willow are hot (no they're not) and ooze sexuality (they don't). We get it, they wanna jump each others bones badly, but poor sick Chase is ruining the whole thing.

Adding Michael's "offer" for Chase to move into the Q mansion while he's sick, Willow swooning at how "lucky" Chase is to have Michael as a "friend" and the two acting like they are martyrs for protecting Chase while he's ill... I'm not even sure how many vomit emojis are needed at this point... 

Also, Michael, your grandmother is a cardiologist not a toxin/infectious disease specialist. Volunteering her to take care of Chase in her own home was not cool. Michael and Finn should both have spoken to Monica first, and then proposed this very bad idea to Chase.

So...I guess Chase will overhear something or see a "private" moment between Willow and Michael who are just sooo hot for each other (shudder/bullshit), at the same time he's trying not to die from this toxin.  Poor Chase. He deserves SO MUCH BETTER. 

Britt and Jason have certainly made leaps in trusting each other.  Their conversations remind me of when Jason and Robin used to talk to each other when Robin was trying to decide about what to do regarding her HIV+ diagnosis.

I don't like Gladys but I did like that she called Carly out on the Corinthos hypocrisy re: Cyrus.

So Sasha was blindsided by this pregnancy even though she wasn't consistent with birth control, the implication is they didn't use condoms because they were in the moment, and Brando is shocked, but they're totally into each other and want this baby.  All....rightey then.

Shut UP, Nina and "Mike."  They both sound like they need to be in a psych ward.

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19 minutes ago, lala2 said:

When did Cyrus become obsessed with Sasha? Why would he care who she dates and who impregnated her? Didn't he ask Brando to kill her? LOL!! After she OD'ed on his bad/test drugs?!?!?!!

Ugh, really? This makes me wonder if she's going to end up being his secret daughter or something equally pointless.

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Where in the blue diddly are Jackie and Gregory?  Are they still sitting at that dinner table that poisoned Chase 8990 weeks ago?  How incredibly stupid to have a story where Chase is essentially on his death bed, yet neither of his parents are anywhere near the story.  Instead of moving in with the Qs (so that he can witness boring Millow nonsense) how about he move in with Mom or Dad.  So Stupid.  

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3 minutes ago, Melgaypet said:

When did Cyrus become obsessed with Sasha

He WAS obsessed with her, right up until she OD'd.  Then he wanted nothing to do with her.  Then when she wasn't fired from Deception and did that GMA interview, he seemed to be impressed at her resilience and started sniffing around again.  

Cyrus is basically obsessed with everyone at this point.  

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1 minute ago, perkie1968 said:

Where in the blue diddly are Jackie and Gregory?  Are they still sitting at that dinner table that poisoned Chase 8990 weeks ago?  How incredibly stupid to have a story where Chase is essentially on his death bed, yet neither of his parents are anywhere near the story.  Instead of moving in with the Qs (so that he can witness boring Millow nonsense) how about he move in with Mom or Dad.  So Stupid.  

Now, you stop making sense! This is GH we're talking about here! Plot point has gotta plot point. Can't have Chase w/his family, which would make sense, when he's serving as a prop for Millow angst. Come on now! Think! 🙄

It is insane how the show hasn't even bothered to address their absence. Heck, say they are in the cafeteria or went home to grab a shower or something. Chase has almost died twice I think! It may have been three times! His parents should be there! 

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"Like Sonny hasn't killed people!"

 

Gladys is a useful idiot. As long as she keeps calling out Sonny/Carly, she can stay in small doses.

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4 minutes ago, lala2 said:

Chase has almost died twice I think! It may have been three times! His parents should be there! 

The worst part is that there was an opportunity to say where they were and why they weren't there for him and they didn't take it.    

Chase:  I want to go home

Finn:  You can't be alone.  Jackie's covering that big story in (insert foreign country here) and Gregory had to go back to Berkeley so that he wouldn't lose tenure (yeah, I don't know anything about American school system!!!!)

Michael:  He can move into the Q mansion with the rest of the town

There you go.  You're at the same place you were today, but the absence of his parents isn't as glaringly stupid.  It writes itself and doesn't make it look like his parents have fallen into middle earth, for pete's sake.  

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36 minutes ago, lala2 said:

When did Cyrus become obsessed with Sasha? Why would he care who she dates and who impregnated her? Didn't he ask Brando to kill her? LOL!! After she OD'ed on his bad/test drugs?!?!?!! 

Yup, she was becoming his public arm candy/trophy and he was looking forward to sex in exchange for giving her drugs, but then she inconveniently OD'ed. Cyrus wanted Brando to get rid of Sasha's body; Brando took her to the hospital instead. Once she survived, Brando gave him the impression that talking to her was for Cyrus's benefit. Cyrus shut down any accusation that she almost died because of his drugs when she got angry at him. Cyrus had some hope that he could again get what he wanted from Sasha after she backed off from him. He thought she was great, and gave a resilience impression, during her GMA interview.

His delicate ego can't deal with his (almost) trophy being pregnant . In a few months, it will be obvious that Sasha was/is involved with someone.  Cyrus has issues with women and pride: pain at his mother's rejection, pain at Laura's rejection, and now his potential sex object got pregnant. 

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So, I don’t think Sonny’s “dramatic” I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE” was supposed to remind me of Ken Jeong’s idiotic guesses on The Masked Singer. But it did, and I laughed. 

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I would think Jordan, his boss, would be more interested in Chase's health, as well.

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32 minutes ago, Bringonthedrama said:

Adding Michael's "offer" for Chase to move into the Q mansion while he's sick, Willow swooning at how "lucky" Chase is to have Michael as a "friend" and the two acting like they are martyrs for protecting Chase while he's ill... I'm not even sure how many vomit emojis are needed at this point... 

I wanted to stab myself in the ear when Michael made the suggestion, and the whole disgusting thing about how Chase and Willow can spend time together and Willow doesn't have to be so out of her mind with worry.

Is she out of her mind with worry? Because at this point, it seems like she's only there because she feels obligated.

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So...I guess Chase will overhear something or see a "private" moment between Willow and Michael who are just sooo hot for each other (shudder/bullshit), at the same time he's trying not to die from this toxin.  Poor Chase. He deserves SO MUCH BETTER. 

Of course he will. And then they will cease that opportunity to destroy the character, because Michael ALWAYS has to come on top at the expense of better, more rounded characters than he'll ever be. Look how Chase backstabbed Michael when all he was trying to do was help him. I can see it coming a hundred miles away.

Oh, Mike and Nina are falling in wuv! *grabs for the nearest barf bucket* because we all know bag bags aren't big enough for this nasty piece of television. And fucking hell! Can this story get any worse?

Yes, it can, but here's Carly throwing her weight around with Gladys. Carly hates the women that Jason likes/loves and she hates the women who remind her of what a gutter rat she was before she fell on the right dick. She's very much still a proper bitch, though.

Sasha is just over a month pregnant, but she looks like she's carrying a litter. I had to go and look up if the actress was pregnant, which she apparently isn't. So it looks like we might be in for an accelerated pregnancy.

Stop talking Cyrus and get a damn move on. You've been talking for over a year now. Talk talk talk talk talk, whine whine whine whine whine whine whine whine, threat (maybe) whine whine whine whine whine some more. I thought the scenes with Laura were good, but good effin' grief, can this storyline also move along, please and thank you.

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21 minutes ago, DanaMB said:

So, I don’t think Sonny’s “dramatic” I KNOW EXACTLY WHO YOU ARE” was supposed to remind me of Ken Jeong’s idiotic guesses on The Masked Singer.

Did he scream "Jamie Foxx!"  (I only watched one season, but I swear he guessed JF every week)

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This whole idea of Cyrus obsessed with Sasha is 3/4s retcon. Sure, he liked the arm candy but he dropped her like a rotten potato after her OD. And he never got her hooked on drugs, that was the trauma of breaking up  with Michael.

Poor Monica. Quartermaines are still inviting people to live in her house without consulting her

Willow and Michael telling each other how wonderful the other person is how got to  be the most boring thing I've seen on TV.

Jason saying that he wouldn't ask if he had HD until he got the symptoms shows how rich he is. Most of us would want to know so that we could start saving up for the person care when we can no longer do things for ourselves.

Sonny yelling in that guy's face was just UGH. Carly was even worse

13 hours ago, bannana said:

In an emergency, I am sure anyone would be treated but for Britt to just go see a doc without a Health Care number/id? Yeah, no.

This was so stupid. If you don't have a health card, you pay for the appointment (cash or a credit care). Then you send the receipts to your insurance provider whether provincial or private.

The screen on the computer saying "Canadian Healthcare" was hilarious.

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11 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

I wanted to stab myself in the ear when Michael made the suggestion, and the whole disgusting thing about how Chase and Willow can spend time together and Willow doesn't have to be so out of her mind with worry.

 

Yeah it's "disgusting".  How long are they gonna not write a new storyline and milk this "guilt" plot between the 3/4.  Let Michael and Willow be together already for poops sake. But I wouldn't say the kid that got raped in jail always goes on top. 

I don't see why they have to play this game with Chase anyway. This guy is a weak "please love me Willow" joke. He's been guilting her from the start even though HE FOUND THEM MAKING LOVE. I mean the dude has no self pride and to me and IMHO a big baby. She left you on Val.DAY to go be with Michael??? I mean What else does he need to see. Then going around and tell his family or letting them say they are "back together" was all passive aggressive pressure and sick really. he's like a really ugly dog that's stuck out in the rain and you don't wanna see.

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26 minutes ago, YaddaYadda said:

Is [Willow] out of her mind with worry? Because at this point, it seems like she's only there because she feels obligated.

I don't think these two things are mutually exclusive in this case. Willow genuinely wants Chase to get better, so she is worried about him. Yet because of her relationship with sexual dynamo Michael, she feels guilty about being at the hospital and leading Chase on.

12 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

And he never got her hooked on drugs, that was the trauma of breaking up  with Michael.

As well as the pressure of being the Face of Deception.

12 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

Poor Monica. Quartermaines are still inviting people to live in her house without consulting her

She kind of asks for it by not putting her foot down and saying no. Besides, she's already running a daycare center; what's having more people in the house? There are more wings than Quartermaines, as we're constantly reminded these days.

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14 minutes ago, statsgirl said:

This whole idea of Cyrus obsessed with Sasha is 3/4s retcon. Sure, he liked the arm candy but he dropped her like a rotten potato after her OD. And he never got her hooked on drugs, that was the trauma of breaking up  with Michael.

Willow and Michael telling each other how wonderful the other person is how got to  be the most boring thing I've seen on TV.

Sonny yelling in that guy's face was just UGH. Carly was even worse

 

Right on.

They really need new writing because all of a sudden it's gotten bad.  They need a change...

Let's start with a cleansing of Nixon Falls!! PLEASE GIVE US SONNY BACK!

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15 minutes ago, Scrapple said:

PLEASE GIVE US SONNY BACK!

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22 minutes ago, Scrapple said:

PLEASE GIVE US SONNY BACK!

can we not?

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17 minutes ago, Scrapple said:

 This guy is a weak "please love me Willow" joke. He's been guilting her from the start even though HE FOUND THEM MAKING LOVE. I mean the dude has no self pride and to me and IMHO a big baby. She left you on Val.DAY to go be with Michael??? I mean What else does he need to see. Then going around and tell his family or letting them say they are "back together" 

No, he walked in on them starting to take their clothes off and kissing. He knows Michael and Willow had sex, but she told him that while she has feelings for Michael, she still had feelings for him, chose to go out with him, and willingly kissed him. Michael got jealous upon finding out that Willow and Chase kissed, which is why he was an ass to Chase.

Willow didn't leave Chase to be with Michael on Valentine's Day; they finished their dinner and then he drove her back to the Q property where she lives. She wanted to check in on Wiley, which is how she found Michael already home and that Sasha left.  Chase's family thinks they are "back together" because that's what he thinks since that is the impression he has from Willow. He couldn't know that hours or at most a day after Michael and Sasha decided they were definitely over, Michael and Willow decided to be together ... and the reason he couldn't know is because Willow didn't bother making a clean break with one guy before being "committed" to another. 

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Nixon falls can wrap up when Sonny and Carly come face to face any day now because Carly is trying to strong arm Corinthos Coffee into the evil strip mall, stepping on any mom and pop coffee spot she has to because Carly is the only one who can protect the family now... or whatever... 

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