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  1. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    Dev's arrival reminds me that "dark-haired teen/early-twenties wannabe-protégé" has been almost as much of a recurring male presence in Sonny's life as "dark-haired, 'complicated' love interest" has been a female one. Those scenes in which Sonny encouraged Dev to go to school but Dev was so insistent on coming to work for the organization, reminded me a lot of the days of VH-Juan and later Zander. Stone preceded those two, of course. Were there others? It reminded me most specifically of Juan. I may be influenced by knowledge that this actor sings and plays. I do think Ashton Arbab has more potential than the young man who played Oscar, and so far I'm enjoying Dev the character more (or minding him less, if we want to put it that way). I think when Arbab is more used to the soap grind, he might actually be good. If I'm going to have to put up with as much Josslyn as they're going to give us, I like the idea of a character who challenges her. I remember when Genie Francis came back this last time, she said she wasn't going to do it just for an anniversary walk-on, and she had made a favorable deal for herself story-wise. And she must have, because she's really been getting the Sonny/Carly treatment of being connected to everyone, everyone's talk-to. I wish she had also negotiated for better clothes. I liked the scenes for Dr. Michael Easton, Chase, and Rebecca Budig too. I'm really thrilled to have RB back. I was sorry to see her go in 2017, so I hope she sticks around long term. Mac being funny ("I see you've never had in-laws")! Intentionally! I don't think Michelle Stafford was necessarily playing Nina the way she was because she was bringing the crazy. When the character first appeared, sure, but for the recent era of happily married Nina, doting stepparent and new "parent," brilliant Crimson editor and taunter of schoolteachers, Nina has been intended to be in a stable period. Stafford is just so mannered and wired all the time that it read otherwise. I'm glad Cynthia Watros didn't watch tape and try to imitate the performance Stafford was giving, because love The Staff or hate her, she's inimitable. I don't have a doubt that when everything about Valentin and Sasha comes out, and if/when Nina implodes over it, Watros will play "over the edge" in her own way. So far, I like that piece of recasting.
  2. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    Friday, when Valentin asked, "How much do you know about Michael Corinthos?" and Sasha answered, "I know he's got a huge..." I was definitely expecting the next word to be something other than "family." Also, I've often watched the show with an identical expression to that of Scout in the picture above, although she looks cuter doing it.
  3. Asp Burger

    GH In The News: The PC Press Club

    I don't recall seeing Terry since the "miraculous recovery fake-out" sequence of the Oscar death episode, which was May 1. No, she doesn't really exist as an independent character. She was on once in a while when someone on the show had cancer, and she is Liz's friend, and that's about it. So I agree with TeeVee329 that she's kind of a "representation placeholder." I doubt they're going to write a love story for her, introduce family members for her, or show her going through a depression when she makes a bad recommendation and a patient dies. The other side of the coin is that those well-meant but thinly developed diversity characters do gently push doors open, even if they're not well done in and of themselves. Back in the '90s, there was a lot of mockery of Matt on Melrose Place. He got some extremely discreet and skittishly presented love stories of his own (on a show where the straight people were literally tearing each other's clothes off and slamming into the walls, humping in alleys, licking food off of each other's bodies, and everything else you could get by with on network TV), but mostly he functioned as talk-to for everyone else. But he was still a somewhat groundbreaking figure. Maybe twentysomething straight people got comfortable with Matt of the sexless man-hugs and it was easier for them to accept whatever came five years later, and five years after that.
  4. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    On that...I did think that in the period when Mike was living with Sonny and airing four days a week, the writing was making him as addled or as sharp as a scene needed him to be, and I didn't always buy it. But gradual cognitive deterioration is a weird, unpredictable process that can defy logic. I had a relative with Alzheimer's who showed this ironclad, unshakable grasp of the intricacies of one particular subject, even though she couldn't remember much more basic things. Maybe Yvonne is this kind of "clarity subject" for Mike. (Unrelated, I was watching a Veep episode recently and trying to figure out where I had seen an actor who played a small part. He turned out to be Nigel Gibbs, who is Yvonne's husband/Stella's old flame, Marcus.) "Pebble." William Lipton has chemistry with a lot of people, because even though he's young, he's enough of a natural actor to be loose with co-stars and really "in" the scenes. Eden McCoy is stiffer. I always see her concentrating, hitting her marks, carrying out what she's prepared. She's so preoccupied with what she has to do that she can't be meaningfully affected in her performance by the performances of those around her. I rarely feel she's responding a certain way because she's opposite Ingo Rademacher, versus opposite Laura Wright, versus opposite Kirsten Storms, etc. That's not to say she's terrible. I just don't find her strong enough to carry everything they give to her. There's been such a push over the last couple years to make Joss happen as a signature ingenue.
  5. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    Forcing a kid to be nice to another child rarely works, IMO. The most parents can do is insist that a child be invited to something, with which their child will go along resentfully, and forbidding/punishing active cruelty. But making them like someone and enjoy someone? That's much harder. And even the most hovering parent cannot be around 24/7 for every interaction. So the "different" kids such as Aiden often have tough, lonely childhoods socially, and a supportive home is important. Depicting that reality is something I think the story has done well. I don't agree here. With Aiden, it isn't any one thing as much as it's a cluster that supports intuition of the people close to him. But again, both points of view have been served. Cameron (who seems conflicted about the idea of having a gay brother) said, "You think he's gay just because he bakes?" and Franco said it's a little more than that. Elizabeth said she's considered for a long time, even before the bullying began, that it could be possible. Sometimes an aggressive disavowal of "stereotypes" in drama can be harmful, in that it erases the reality of some people by making them marginal or invisible. It can also result in silly overreach. A hypothetical example would be if someone in production gave a note that Brad and Lucas can't be mentioned in passing to be hosting an Academy Awards party or watching RuPaul's Drag Race; they have to be doing something involving sports. Or the RuPaul's Drag Race plug has to be given to straight characters. I'd argue that Elizabeth and Cameron have had just as much of a voice in it as Franco, but why doesn't that make sense? The adults and young adults are the main characters and contract players on the show. It's about Aiden as much as it can be with a young actor who can only be asked to do so much, because of the age-related limitations on his abilities and the restrictions of his on-set time. There are also kids on the show whose parents are gangland figures. Even some of the "good," law-abiding, even law-practicing characters have murders to their credit. Within the world of Port Charles, in the hierarchy of schoolchildren, a kid would be more likely to be ostracized for being who he/she is than for family members' stories from 2009, 1996 or 1981.
  6. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    I still disagree on the Aiden story. I wasn't offended by it. I have been offended and frankly saddened by a lot of the viewer reactions to it, but not by the story itself. It is somewhat hamstrung by the need to tell the story through older characters, the actor/character at the center being so young, but I thought it was decently balanced and one of the better-told stories they've had in recent years. Also...at least some of the people writing GH are themselves gay or lesbian, and may be drawing on their own childhood experiences. Not everyone's personal story is like Lucas's. People's identities and personalities don't always reveal themselves as if they have been engineered to confound stereotypes. But I agree it's probably just back-burnered, with the school year out. I hope it hasn't gone away completely, because I don't want certain people pushing for it to be dropped (the "I need Lucky's only son to be a 'normal' child" and the "I'll stop watching if you keep shoving this gay crap down my throat!" people who are vocal on some other sites) to be able to declare victory.
  7. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    Back when Tamara Braun took over Carly, a lot of people thought she was younger than she was. NLG was giving slightly passive-aggressive Sexis-pushing interviews that year, and she made an adjustment at some point from saying she (NLG) wasn't a midriff-baring 20-year-old to saying she wasn't a midriff-baring 30-year-old. Some of us guessed that she had learned Braun's real age along the way. And Braun had, just a couple years before Carly, guested as a high school girl on 7th Heaven, so that was the kind of thing she was getting sent out for. Her future bestie Alicia Leigh Willis played an occasional role on that show. So her appearance has always lagged a bit behind her age. She does look great. I wish Kim's material were more interesting. It took a wrong turn at "I know Oscar has cancer but I've never told him" and has never got back on track.
  8. Louise Sorel's character in the rumor was...I want to say "Althea"? Another mother figure who apparently died when played by another actress? I don't know enough about Skye's non-GH history, and a lot of years have gone by. Maybe the idea was that LS would play the Althea person in flashbacks. Nothing ever came of it. In one version of that rumor, an episode was going to end with a musical montage of Angel and Sonny getting busy consensually at the cabin while, elsewhere, Sorel forced himself on Carly. Then, in Carly's post-rape exam, they find out she has aggressive cervical cancer or similar.
  9. And Robert Kelker-Kelly, and Linda Dano (her Rae was such an obnoxious recurring presence on GH)... Everyone in the know predicted with Phelps's hire that the Friends of Jill were going to swarm the show, and it did happen for a while. I remember a rumor in 2001 that she was trying to get Louise Sorel too, to play another Skye support. I don't know whether that was bad information or something she actually was trying to make happen and wasn't able to. Some of JFP's favorites were actors whom I had liked very much in other things and might have been happy to see on GH, theoretically, but there are good and bad ways to use people. I'm a big Seinfeld fan, but when I read the contentious acronym, I didn't make the connection with "Not that there's anything wrong with that." I was guessing "Not that they asked what we think." 😉
  10. Asp Burger

    Episode Discussion: TFGH

    I'm sure someone else has suggested it here, or in another thread, but they could just do what they always do when they want to keep an actor but the character is not viable. Give Shiloh a brother. Say the brother is the one who was actually Drew's military buddy, and this one was lying. Even Carrrrlos got a twin brother for about ten minutes. Wasn't he a caring pediatrician or some shit? That introduction was a weird dead end. I wouldn't. I'd drive to Gene's Branford Roadhouse. The ambiance isn't much, but they know how to treat a customer, and Carly isn't there. Now it's sweet, penguin-loving, firefly-wrangling Morgan who even drank the smoothies that everyone else poured into the potted plant. Death revealed so much sensitivity and virtue in that character. It's remarkable. He was/is also a serious martial arts enthusiast, which led to his legendary performance as karate's bad boy, Mike Barnes, in that basic-cable staple and camp classic The Karate Kid Part III. Maybe there will be political content too. I won't get into it, but if you want to know who he supported in 2016, it's on his Wikipedia. Highlight of the week. I actually enjoy Nelle when she's on once in a while. That's a development I never expected. I thought they'd just go offscreen. I didn't think it was going to be an actual subplot with their own sets (even very basic ones). It isn't doing much for me. These two just aren't strongly defined enough characters to carry their own material away from the rest of Port Charles. Also, while I know it's realistic, I'm still hearing way too much about people missing Oscar. Which I still do not. That's true. They're usually done through a scope now. Besides appendectomies as you mention, so are gallbladder removals, and many hysterectomies, and other stuff. Smaller incision, shorter recovery. The medical detail on the show, when they tell a medical story, is generally not bad.
  11. Just for bookkeeping on the dates: Marisa Ramirez vacated the role of Gia and was immediately replaced in December 2002. Natalia Livingston first aired as Emily (who had been off canvas for a while) on April 1, 2003, and Tyler returned as Nikolas later that month. So there was a short period of overlap for NL and Coltin Scott Stephen Martines, which for some reason I'm having a hard time remembering. NL was/is a much-disliked actor on every board I read. My impression was that she had a weird backward trajectory. Usually when young actors start on a soap, they're raw and amateurish, and the best ones find their footing. She, on the other hand, never impressed me more than in her first few days, when Emily was catching up with her friends and family while hiding a terrible sekrit (the cancer, a story that started immediately). I thought she was really pretty and came off as warm and sensitive, and did a good job with the inner turmoil of what Emily was concealing. But the longer she was on, the more that positive impression faded. Before long, she was all tics and heavy breathing when she wasn't stiff as a board. I wondered if she was getting bad guidance from someone. I liked Gia #2 (Andrea Pearson) much more than Gia #1, in large part because Marisa Ramirez's whiny voice drove me up a wall, and I preferred Pearson's savvier, more grown-up version to the conniving wannabe princess. I do agree that it was a completely different character, though. There's "growth" and "evolution" and then there's "This doesn't even seem like the same person who did all that other stuff only a year ago." I agree with @ulkis that they probably cast NL with Tyler in mind. I also agree that SB's return was the beginning of the end for Zander. He immediately started acting like a bratty preadolescent. I guess you could fanwank that Sonny had been a replacement "father figure" and Jason became the golden-boy older brother who aced him out, and it was like his childhood all over again, but I think that that would be giving Pruza's writing credit it doesn't deserve. It wasn't that nuanced. They were just trashing him. Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut, and one character Megan McTavish wrote pretty well was Zander. He actually had a good year under her.
  12. This is nothing I haven't said before, but re: Zander/Juan reminiscing in the "News" thread: When Chad Brannon first took over Zander (I remember nothing about Marc Brett's short-lived original version), I liked both the actor and the character a lot. CB had something different and fresh, and the show was not exactly in its best period for the younger male cast. There were no standouts. Zander had been involved in some criminal things, but nothing I thought made him irredeemable by GH standards, and he had prevented Emily's murder by Sorel's goons. But a series of writers made so many bad decisions with him, and Amber Tamblyn's departure from the Emily role hurt too, because a lot of the appeal was the chemistry between those two. Even his back story -- being Dr. Lane Smith's son, who fled home after his more favored brother died in an Ordinary People ripoff -- was bad, and an affluent background did not really fit the way CB had been playing him. So it was death by a thousand cuts. By the time Guza and Pratt were writing, and he was trying to ingratiate himself with any mobster that would have him, I couldn't stand him anymore (nor did it seem they had any use for him). I think even Brannon had given up on the character in his last two years. It wasn't like Shiloh and Ryan presently, where the character is awful but the performances are good. With Zander, the character got worse and worse and the acting got shallower. Juan, I felt, just never worked at all. It was 1999, boy bands were hot at the time, and so was Ricky Martin, so we got VH-Juan, connected to RM's character. On paper, Juan was the sympathetic character in the triangle with Emily and Zander, but I wasn't rooting for him. He was an Oscar type -- I was relieved when he got cut loose. I never had to hear him tell Emily "You're my gurrfrenn!" again.
  13. Asp Burger

    GH In The News: The PC Press Club

    Taking it to the history thread re: Zander/Juan.
  14. Asp Burger

    GH In The News: The PC Press Club

    I just hate red-carpet interviews. Most of them are so rushed and dumb, and this one ticks both boxes. When I said banter, I was referring to the boiler-plate BS of trying to get an actor to reveal upcoming story (which is never gonna happen), and the thing about women being jealous of Becky because of the men she's with on- and offscreen, and "If you ever leave showbiz, you can design clothes!" All of it squeezed into a manic 90 seconds so they can cut away or herd the next people on. If GH models the fake version with Nina on displays like that one, they nailed it. It's only fun to watch now because it's really old, and they all still have played these characters on GH in recent times.
  15. Asp Burger

    GH In The News: The PC Press Club

    @UYI, if you Google their names, you can find a lot of pictures of them arriving at things together, rocking their late-'90s looks. There's also a YouTube video of one of those ditzy red-carpet interviews at the Daytime Emmys. Kim McCullough is there between them, so it isn't as apparent that they're "together," except for one quick comment from the hostess. The banter is almost as sad and stilted as the fake red-carpet scenes for the Nurses' Ball. But yeah, Becky and Saucedo got together only a year or two after that, and have been married since 2001.
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