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JD and Abbie: Captured Before the Rapture


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No disrespect to LPNs. I work with some truly awesome LPNs. (I work at a hospital that DOES hire LPNs.)

No disrespect to nursing home nurses, but it is a different skill set than working in a hospital setting. Not harder, not easier. Just different. 

Also: LPN programs do not have any college requirements. 

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2 hours ago, wait.what said:

No disrespect to LPNs. I work with some truly awesome LPNs. (I work at a hospital that DOES hire LPNs.)

No disrespect to nursing home nurses, but it is a different skill set than working in a hospital setting. Not harder, not easier. Just different. 

Also: LPN programs do not have any college requirements. 

The junior college program from which my LPN aunt graduated most certainly does have college requirements. You can't paint all LPN programs with the same brush. 

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The LPN program I graduated from had very stringent entrance requirements and also required more clinical hours than the RN program.  I work in a hospital and do the same hands on care as the RN, I just don't do charge on the floor like I did in a nursing home, I do blood transfusions but an RN has to sign off on it and I don't give chemo but I start iv's, push iv drugs and give iv antibiotics.  I'm in Georgia and I know all states aren't the same.

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In my community, if you want to be an LPN, you go to the local trade school.  If you want to be an RN, you go to the local college.  There used to be two college curricula here for RNs (Associates Degree and Bachelors Degree).  Now, the college only offers the Bachelors.  I don't know how many years you have to go to the trade school for LPN.

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10 hours ago, wait.what said:

No disrespect to LPNs. I work with some truly awesome LPNs. (I work at a hospital that DOES hire LPNs.)

No disrespect to nursing home nurses, but it is a different skill set than working in a hospital setting. Not harder, not easier. Just different. 

Also: LPN programs do not have any college requirements. 

I was an LPN before becoming an RN, and honestly I feel like working as an LPN should be a required part of nursing education! You get a feel for what it's like in the trenches before you handle really high acuity patients and lots of crappy paperwork. That being said, LPN programs, with lower entrance requirements will also attract people who are averse/unable to perform in higher education. I went to school with and worked with a lot of Jehovah's Witnesses (who don't believe in college/higher ed) who wanted to be nurses. Abbie and Lauren remind me of those people - religious, and only pushing the limits of what is permitted so far. Jill Duggar is an even more pathetic version of this type of person. Abbie may or may not be a good nurse, I'd have to hear more of her work history to know if she's ever actually worked as one. For what it's worth I also went to LPN school with people who had graduate degrees, and became great nurses.

 

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The junior college program from which my LPN aunt graduated most certainly does have college requirements. You can't paint all LPN programs with the same brush. 

Most states will let you challenge the LPN NCLEX after a certain amount of hours in an RN program, Many people do it to make extra money in school and rack up nursing experience before graduating, or because they have to leave the program for some reason. Most employers in my area will factor in years as an LPN so you're not starting at new-grad RN pay, too.

 

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The LPN program I graduated from had very stringent entrance requirements and also required more clinical hours than the RN program.  I work in a hospital and do the same hands on care as the RN, I just don't do charge on the floor like I did in a nursing home, I do blood transfusions but an RN has to sign off on it and I don't give chemo but I start iv's, push iv drugs and give iv antibiotics.

There really is a ton of overlap between both roles, but I wouldn't trust that Abbie, who may possibly have a bit over a year of SNF experience max, to do most of these things. I would trust her to keep 25-35 patients alive, though!

 

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Jim Bob isn't going to be rolled around in an office chair, and Michelle isn't going to spend her old age doing Anna's laundry!

As horrible as it is to say, I hope they both get the Nurse Ratched treatment, by everyone in their lives.

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On 6/26/2018 at 11:16 AM, Jeeves said:

Good for JD.

But actually the LPN education his sweetie completed, isn't exactly a "college degree." However, it is post-secondary education.  It looks like she successfully completed the LPN training offered at a vocational school in Ada, Oklahoma, and she would be eligible for licensure as an LPN, I assume in most states. I think that training takes about a year and requires a high school diploma or GED in order to enroll in it. She may have received some kind of certificate or certification to note her completion of and graduation from the training program.

I'm not looking down my nose at that!! The world needs LPNs and it's a real medical licensed role, unlike Jilly Muffin's bogus maybe-kinda-some kind of midwife status. Edited to add: Here's the LPN program page from the school she attended: https://www.pontotoctech.edu/ftp/practicalnursing Girl was not sitting around slacking, if she got all that coursework done in about a year and then passed the licensing exam.

It's also more structured education than any Duggar has ever completed. Actually, JD's getting his pilot's license is probably the most a Duggarling has accomplished in the real world of education and training and, you know, sustained WORK. Ahem.

I wish them well.

 

 

On 6/26/2018 at 11:21 AM, Sew Sumi said:

@jeeves She is licensed to practice in OK.

His would also explain the flights to Ada, OK that I have seen over the past several months.

 

^^Those are older posts from the "Lonely J's" topic - before this one was created. With the deets - linked above - of the LPN training that Abbie received. She's from Oklahoma, which is where she received her education and is licensed to practice. Thought it might help with this LPN discussion.

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^^Those are older posts from the "Lonely J's" topic - before this one was created. With the deets - linked above - of the LPN training that Abbie received. She's from Oklahoma, which is where she received her education and is licensed to practice. Thought it might help with this LPN discussion.

She's compact licensed for other states, too.

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With the emphasis these people have on immediately making babies, I'm pretty sure every guy and gal is thoroughly educated on the mechanics of reproduction.  They may not know math or science or history, but they know exactly how to (most likely) quickly and efficiently make sure the eggs and sperm meet up on the wedding night.

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3 minutes ago, MonicaM said:

With the emphasis these people have on immediately making babies, I'm pretty sure every guy and gal is thoroughly educated on the mechanics of reproduction.  They may not know math or science or history, but they know exactly how to (most likely) quickly and efficiently make sure the eggs and sperm meet up on the wedding night.

Sorry but the Duggars don't know 1 thing about sex they get a book about sex day of marriage 

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3 minutes ago, Rabbittron said:

Sorry but the Duggars don't know 1 thing about sex they get a book about sex day of marriage 

No, that scene with JB and Josh was faked for the cameras because TLC insisted that they get to show "the talk." It was one of the things Anna's ex-BIL said way back when he posted on twop. 

I imagine the Duggars' sex education is much like the one I got in Catholic school--all the mechanics explained right alongside with explanation about why birth control is evil and why you have to wait until marriage. 

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On 18/10/2018 at 11:38 PM, Albanyguy said:

Jim Bob isn't going to be rolled around in an office chair, and Michelle isn't going to spend her old age doing Anna's laundry!

What a shame Michelle needs to be stuck in Anna’s or one of her kids laundry rooms for eternity, the way she treated Jim Bobs mum is disgusting. 

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15 hours ago, Barb23 said:

Oh, I would love for them to have a courthouse wedding.  JD can wear a suit & Abby a nice shorter length dress.  There would only be 2 friends as witnesses. 

A person can dream can't she?

@MrsClaus, I like the Vegas idea too. 

Or Abby wearing the suit and JD wearing the dress. 

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23 hours ago, lascuba said:

No, that scene with JB and Josh was faked for the cameras because TLC insisted that they get to show "the talk." It was one of the things Anna's ex-BIL said way back when he posted on twop. 

I imagine the Duggars' sex education is much like the one I got in Catholic school--all the mechanics explained right alongside with explanation about why birth control is evil and why you have to wait until marriage. 

Josh had already learned it from all the porn he watched.  

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