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Jeff during the RC: “Sebastian is high every time.”  Yeah, we know what you meant there, Probst.  He looked high in the end credits when he held his vote up.

Libby didn’t do much for me, and between her and Michael I’m glad she went.  Why she was deemed such a threat I don’t know, unless it all goes back to the Morgan vote (but it’s not like she was the only person to flip on Morgan).  Dom is aligned with people who flipped on Morgan!  Very predictable vote, but given there’s a core alliance of Dom/Wendell/Donathan/Laurel, I’m somewhat relieved those 4 are probably just playing everybody and Kellyn will hopefully realize sooner rather than later that Naviti strong was just being used by them. 

Can we ban the phrase “big moves”?  Also, I don’t think the new final TC format has really been about who played the better game so far in determining the winner.

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I was glad the gross eating challenge was an IC.  Though for a group RC, it's not as easy to give up because you're letting your team down, but immunity can equally be important.

Some random thoughts about why I miss the dynamics of camp life: why exactly did Wendell think Laurel was shaky with their alliance?  I didn't really see anything to indicate that.  Similarly, is Michael throwing everyone's name out all the time, or is Wendell just pissed his name was thrown out?  At least he didn't have the "how dare he" attitude some past Survivors have had when their name was mentioned.

I love Mexican food as much as the next person, but I'd be scared to eat that after not eating solidly for 20+ days (Survivor Taco Hut, really?).  And Angela at the RC: "that vote last night was epic, I didn't see..." yeah, I think you've proven you haven't seen a lot of things going on this season.  Count me as impressed with her performance tonight, though.  She killed it in the IC, and she didn't even seem to hesitate.  And I thought she was starting to kind of display some gaming. 

Happy to see some of the ladies get footage tonight.  While this season is kind of eh for me overall, it's the first season I've enjoyed since S31, and before that S28 (S33 was okay at parts).  Definitely beats last season, and I'm glad the cast is getting more camera time overall.  I mean, Libby went tonight and that probably had to do with her visible edit, but that's more than some ousted castaways in recent seasons can say.  Besides Kellyn, I can honestly say I don’t dislike anyone else.  Though that might change soon if they get Michael out.  Funny how there was talk about Michael being strong in challenges and tough to beat, but Wendell was a beast in the RC.  He’s gotta be holding back.  Smart if he is.  I wish this season could have just been a good old fashioned Survivor season rather than a mediocre Ghost Island twist.  The Ghost Island twist is very meh to me, and I wish they weren't allowed to draw rocks to send someone there.  Make the winning tribe chose.

Don't say your only gonna play Survivor once Michael!  That poor boy is cursed this season.  I want him, Malcolm, Jay, Devon, Joe, and Ozzy (yes, Ozzy) back for a season on the same tribe.

I just realized tonight Donathan's been kind of in the background for a few episodes.  I wish original Malolo could have stuck together and blindsided someone from Naviti.  

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2 minutes ago, Rachel RSL said:

Probst: "Sebastian cannot get it done. He's high every time." - Just as we suspected lol! (Also, did he say that he was "a seafood entrepreneur"? Is that even a thing? Did he mean "aficionado"? Either way, it was weird.)

So good to see the gross eating challenge again! Wendell was hilarious. He was just like "Nope!".  That would totally be me.  No way would I even touch any of those things, let alone put them in my mouth. I was impressed with Angela's deep throating skills though. Girlfriend swallowed that entire slug!

I'm so glad Michael used the fucking stick!  Although my heart sank for a second when I saw that vote for Wendell. Who voted for him? I missed that. Libby was really pretty but that's pretty much all I know about her so, whatever. I'm really enjoying this season now that I know who everybody is. (Although every time they show Chelsea or Jenna, there's a brief moment of "Who the hell is that?") 

I don't know if I was more surprised he could say entrepreneur, or that he knew what it meant.  His occupation was listed as deep sea fisherman, so maybe he's in charge of selling his catches?  I loved the reaction fucking stick got when it was revealed it had turned into a real boy idol.  I'm just disappointed Michael no longer had that safety net.  I'm guessing Michael voted for Wendell.  Libby must have voted for Michael.  

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1 minute ago, LadyChatts said:

Jeff during the RC: “Sebastian is high every time.

That made me laugh out loud. 

Well, that worked out well.  I didn't want Wendell or Michael to go home. I was scared when Wendell sat on his idol.  Good thing all the women were still determined to boot Libby.

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Darn.  I'm sorry to see Libby go this week.  I finally knew which one she was.

But I would have felt worse if Michael had gone, or if Wendell had gone.  Why are my favorites the ones getting the votes, when there are people like Kellyn sitting there safe?

Wendell was a thing of beauty in the reward challenge, but I kept wondering if those boards weren't killing his bare feet.  

I haven't cared much for Angela, but damn was she committed in that immunity challenge.  Good for her.

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Ah! The sweet satisfaction of a well-played immunity idol! Good job, Michael! (They're gonna be on your ass next week tho...)

I couldn't even watch the gross eating challenge. Bleech! So, Wendell just "noped" out?! Lol! He may be my favorite now.

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3 minutes ago, cleo said:

Can someone tell me what the new final format is? I skipped last season bc it sounded awful.

They started it in S34, but basically instead of each person getting up and asking the final 3 a question (or giving a bitter betty speech), they have to ask as a group questions that relate to Survivor's tag line of Outwit, Outplay, Outlast.  It's still usually directed to one person, and personally I don't think it's that different than everyone getting up and giving speeches/asking questions.  So more like a round table discussion. 

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Wendell is gaming his ass off. Nice job tightening his alliance with Laurel.

Dom went from front and center to background noise, aint hating it.

Some will condemn Laurel for sticking to the vote, but it makes no sense for her to jump into the bottom of a five when she already has a tight 4.

Donathon, um, he's just along for the experience at this point.

Angie where have you been all season? That was awesome. That being said, if you did all that just to make sure naviti knew you was tight with them, those were just wasted moves. Great ic performance.

Chelsea, I have a feeling your words at tribal are going to be played back at the reunion, and not for a good reason.

Poor Michael, dude just can't catch a break. Grats on being the first to reverse the curse.

Im assuming Kellyn's tightening up a female alliance, but why am I not seeing it?

Desiree, Chelsea and Sea Bass, Not even on my radar at this point. I guess des gives good confessionals but that's it.

Poor Libby, doomed from the start. She wanted to play the game but she just couldn't get anybody to play it with her.

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Another week, another decent outcome from Tribal. I didn't dislike Libby, but I really like Michael and Wendell, so I was glad neither went home. 

Although, I don't think Michael is long for this world. If he doesn't go on a challenge spree, he's likely to be out of there soon. 

I really respected him for finishing the food challenge, even though he'd already lost. And Angela's performance was very impressive as well...even if her showboating after was a bit much. 

Boy, Michael really made a mistake in confiding in her, didn't he? Of course, he was probably on everyone's radar. And Angela gave me shades of Kaos Kass with her desire to just start stirring stuff up. 

I'm not sure if Laurel and Donathan made the right call. Dominick and Wendell are big threats. F4 with them is not going to get you a win. But betraying them might sour people against you as well. It's tough. 

 

Since Libby went to GI I'm hoping everyone remembers her now! Lol!

 

I won't miss Libby's stupid, white, lacey shorts. 

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It was interesting to see Angela start making moves and crushing the immunity challenge. Good for her! She also was accompanied by military drum cadence during her talking heads. I was wondering if the reward challenge was sponsored by Taco Bell. Wendell sure went to town on those targets! And Laurel's running is a thing of beauty-her long legs moving so gracefully.  And then Michael kisses Jenna on the lips! Just a peck, but I thought she was Sebastian's woman.

I thought Wendell was going to play his idol for a moment - good thing he hung onto it.

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Good on Michael for playing his idol but he better hope he finds one fast next week, or wins immunity, because they will definitely come him again.

Definitely impressed with Angela this week in the immunity challenge, though I still think she is out of the loop.

Other than Wendel and Dom's four I I still can't figure out the rest of the alliances.  Now Kellyn and Chelsea re a tight pair?  Angela seemed to think so.

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Hate gross food challenges. Sets off my gag reflex big time. Missed the first go round because I was wrenching so badly. Had to watch the rest with sound off, closed cap on and hands over my eyes. Angela rocked that challenge big time.

I am glad Michael played his idol because I like him. Also glad to se Wendell survive as I like him. 

I don’t understand why Libby has been in the bottom so many times as she does not appear to be a threat

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13 minutes ago, mojoween said:

Before Angela turned into a crotchmonster by blabbing everything Michael said, it already sucked she was on Wendell’s team for the RC.  It would have been ideal if had swapped places with Michael.

And OF COURSE she wins II.  I can’t believe she not only turned on Michael in 4.2 seconds, she also did it by using that tortured war analogy that made her look ca-razy.

Kellyn losing the RC was nice though.  She is SO ANNOYING.

Laurel no!  Keep your four strong and THEN cannibalize each other!

Christ.  I hope we never hear Naviti or Malolo EVER AGAIN.

Yeah Laurel play for Dom and Wendell!! You already know they have too much power. Just let them get to F3 so you get no votes and look dumb protecting them. Same goes for the morons who didn't vote out Wendell tonight and let Him and Dom dictate who goes if Micheal didn't play his idol

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I really didn't get why Angela felt she had to go through all that to target Michael. I think most of the players would have been okay with the suggestion of Michael based on the old fashioned strength argument and them thinking he and Libby were tight, the latter who they were always gunning for. It just seemed like she went about gunning for him in an unnecessary mean spirited way because Michael didn't have numbers or was under the radar to where she had to work to convince people to go after him. I don't know, something about the whole thing just bugged me and made me really dislike Andrea and can't wait to see her voted off. 

Given Angela's perception of the game so far and how she's been wrong on many counts, I can see why she thought her game depended on her beating Michael.  Who knows what went on behind the scenes back at camp.  I was impressed with her tonight, though she gets caught stirring stuff up (which I usually equate to people stirring up wrong info, not correct info) might end up costing her.

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That was a good episode. I aughed at the Sebastian is high comment and then rolled myeyes when Sebastian commented that they should have won. Sebastian missed all of his shots. 

I liked that Wendell could read that Laurel was worried, even if he could not figure out why. I also like that Laurel was worried about Dom and Wendall. I like that she is not taking things for granted and is thinking about how all the new info will influence her game. 

It was nice to see Donathon thinking and trying to figure out the best play. I have no idea why he changed his vote but I like when players who are in a good position willingly question that position. 

You cannot say that Chelsea, Kellyn or Sea Bass are thinking about where they are in the game. Angela knows she is not in a good place and goes out and crushes immunity. 

I like how this is unfolding. Wendell knows he is a target and played it cool. Dom recognizes that he has to back off a bit and chill out. Most people are thinking and trying to make good moves.

Michael was smart to use his idol, it is nice to see smart game play.

Look, this is not a season with massive characters. There is not a Russell or Coach but there are a lot of folks thinking and playing pretty well. This makes me happy.

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18 minutes ago, truthaboutluv said:

I really didn't get why Angela felt she had to go through all that to target Michael. I think most of the players would have been okay with the suggestion of Michael based on the old fashioned strength argument and them thinking he and Libby were tight, the latter who they were always gunning for. It just seemed like she went about gunning for him in an unnecessary mean spirited way because Michael didn't have numbers or was under the radar to where she had to work to convince people to go after him. I don't know, something about the whole thing just bugged me and made me really dislike Andrea and can't wait to see her voted off. 

Out of the loop on quite a few votes, if she wants an alliance, she'll likely have to demonstrate value. That was a decent way to do it. Still think it's a wasted move, but I get what she was going for.

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Thank God Michael played his Idol. That's basically the episode right there.

I still have hopes Laurel is gonna pull this out. She's getting a complex edit for sure. i noticed this episode that she has a great game face talking to others, it's gone in the confessionals intelligence shines through without shading.

I think Michael's "I'm  probably only going to get to play Survivor once." means he'll be back.

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I must be getting old.  This is the first time I have ever gagged during an eating challenge.  They usually don't bother me in anything other than a vague "ew that's gross" kinda way.   I actually ended up in the bathroom.  Thank goodness I hadn't had dinner yet, so there was nothing in there.  Ugh. 

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16 minutes ago, Pepper the Cat said:

I don’t understand why Libby has been in the bottom so many times as she does not appear to be a threat

Libby has been at the bottom simply because she was a Malolo and simply on the wrong side of the numbers.   Simple as that.

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I'm out if it continues to be Dom and Wendell continue to get their way. It's boring knowing who is going to leave cause like tonight these idiots don't target them to at least force an idol to be played. No we have jealous hater bitches like Des who have to get out Libby at all costs when bigger threats to win stay safe. Have fun losing Des and anyone too stupid to not target Dom and Wendell. They have too much power and people just do what they want 

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27 minutes ago, UGAmp said:

Oh thank goodness. Michael’s beautiful face will be on my tv for at least another week. 

Body too.  Earlier on I was thinking it'd be nice to keep Michael around but when it came to Michael vs Wendell I found out I was totally Team Wendell after he went on that rant about Chris's terrible rapping skills last week.  But somehow, both the Michael fans and the Wendell fans ended up winning out this week.  Libby is really pretty though.  And I liked how her hair was kind of dreading.

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Random thoughts on episode 9 "Libby Libby Libby on the Paper Paper Paper"

  • "What am I doing wrong?" asked the next member of our jury
  • I'm not sure which was more impressive, Angela's shit-stirring or shit-eating
  • Wendell, in your quest for the Survivor Holy Grail, don't tell people you have an idol - even if it is the Erik Idol.
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Well, snap. There goes my eye candy of the season. Those green eyes, that wavy blonde hair and that flat stomach. So sad. I'll miss you Libby. At least I still have Laurel.

I squeed when I saw the Gross Food Challenge...to me that is SURVIVOR DNA far more than any hidden immunity idols, legacy advantages or the much-maligned medallion of power ever will be. It should be on every season!

Appreciated the editor throwing shade at Desi...instead of going to a wide shot when someone said COATTAIL RIDER at tribal it immediately cut to her.

Nice save by Michael but I don't see where he goes form here.

Angela...may have had military survival training that got her through that challenge but she certainly has a screw loose with the weird body gyrations all through out that challenge. As they say "Somethin' aint right with that girl."

Does Seabass not have a Ride or Die? As near as I can tell he has no friends or tight alliance. THis guy is a Star Trek Red Shirt waiting to get picked off the first time they need a boot that won't get you blood on your hands because not one person will care.

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I could never watch those eating challenges. Tonight was no different. 

I like Wendell. And I agree with everyone that I’m happy Michael is still here. 

My husband hasn’t watched in quite a few seasons. He walked by and saw them sitting in chairs drinking coffee. He said “they have coffee on Survivor?!”  It’s so different than the days of rationing rice. 

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37 minutes ago, GenerationX said:

Random thoughts on episode 9 "Libby Libby Libby on the Paper Paper Paper"

That is a deep cut commercial allusion.

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I forgot tonight was the gross eating challenge & I started eating supper just as the show started. So I had to change the channel til it was done-- blood & guts don't really bother me, but when people start eating those things, I just can't watch it. And I'd have to be near death to be willing to eat any of that stuff myself !

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45 minutes ago, SHD said:

Angela killed the eating challenge but she gained my hate by the way she acted as she finished each round. I didn't need to see her Gene-Simmons-waggle her tongue every time. Sheesh.

Yes.   She is dead to me after the way she went after Michael tonight.

 

Pardon me while I go off to dry heave some more.   That challenge really got to me this time.    

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59 minutes ago, LadyChatts said:

Don't say your only gonna play Survivor once Michael!  That poor boy is cursed this season.  I want him, Malcolm, Jay, Devon, Joe, and Ozzy (yes, Ozzy) back for a season on the same tribe.

It's funny, because superficially, they look similar (except clean-cut Michael and maybe a little nuMalcolm), but they're so, SO different. Also, apparently Hannah compared Sebastian to Jay, and that's so insulting to Jay ... all I can say is clearly Hannah's utter inability to read people hasn't changed.

But you know who can read people? Donathan. He is surprisingly incisive, and seems to be keeping this ability under the radar (he was also the one who warned Domenick about Libby and Jenna last ep). I'm more impressed with him now than I was at the beginning of the show. He's definitely not just here for a sob story and a growth arc. It seems like he came to play.

Michael, on the other hand ... his edit has ramped up to Malcolm-in-Game-Changers levels, which does give me pause about how much longer he lasts.

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1 hour ago, Oscirus said:

Chelsea, I have a feeling your words at tribal are going to be played back at the reunion, and not for a good reason.

 

No they won't because Jeff won't even ask her a question at the reunion.  The thing is though I don't think she is on the bottom despite the horrible edit she is getting. 

I thought it was interesting though that after she said that they focused in on Laurel.

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17 minutes ago, Eolivet said:

It's funny, because superficially, they look similar (except clean-cut Michael and maybe a little nuMalcolm), but they're so, SO different. Also, apparently Hannah compared Sebastian to Jay, and that's so insulting to Jay ... all I can say is clearly Hannah's utter inability to read people hasn't changed.

But you know who can read people? Donathan. He is surprisingly incisive, and seems to be keeping this ability under the radar (he was also the one who warned Domenick about Libby and Jenna last ep). I'm more impressed with him now than I was at the beginning of the show. He's definitely not just here for a sob story and a growth arc. It seems like he came to play.

Michael, on the other hand ... his edit has ramped up to Malcolm-in-Game-Changers levels, which does give me pause about how much longer he lasts.

It's funny, because tonight when Donathan woke up and turned to the camera, for a brief second he looked like Jay to me.  I can sort of see where Sebastian and Jay might be compared, but I believe Jay plays up the goofy persona and Sebastian....well, there's enough screen shots of his face this season out there to sum him up.  When they were doing the eating challenge and Sebastian made it to the final 3 round, I won't lie that I wondered if he even knew what he was eating.  He must be finding something out there on the island to make up for his high!  Maybe he smuggled the sharpies in his backpack.

I think Joe and Ozzy would be the most similar.  Both love the game more for the experience than the game part, both are providers, both are challenge beasts and love the competition.  Both stink strategically, though I disagree with people about Joe being terrible socially.  I think he is a very likable guy that everyone likes and doesn't really ruffle feathers.  Devon could probably fall into their category.  I think if Michael came back, he'd probably be a lot better at the game strategically.  I keep forgetting he's only 18, and he really got a raw deal winding up on Malolo. 

I'm equally surprised by Donathan.  I'm never quite sure what to make of him.  One week he acts like an oblivious goofball that's just happy to be there and following orders, the next he seems to have a little strategy going on there.

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No they won't because Jeff won't even ask her a question at the reunion.  The thing is though I don't think she is on the bottom despite the horrible edit she is getting. 

I thought it was interesting though that after she said that they focused in on Laurel.

 

I think Chelsea is getting a raw deal, edit wise.  Contrary to what some pre-merge boots said about her, I believe she's got game going on.  Judging from things we have seen of her, and things that have come out in later interviews with the more recent castaways, I think she's playing the game.  It may be a quiet game, but I truly believe she's got stuff going on out there and may be doing her best to strategize but stay under the radar.  What that means with the kind of edit she's getting doesn't make me hopeful for her chances, and it doesn't help with the other personalities she's up against.  

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I didn't start watching from the start until around 8:18. Still not caring. The biggest loser tonight has to be Angela. I'm good with the movements while eating . . . I think pro eaters (re: Joey Chestnut, Tim Janus) do that during contests. It's just that she tried to swallow sea slugs whole, or at least in as few bites as possible. Regardless of her relationship status, she's guaranteed to get a lot of attention from males that basically boils down to "How you doin'?"

I thought Wendell was toast after he didn't even try to compete in the IC. I mean, I can't say I blame him, but a potential power player like him should at least try to solidify his position.

Hey, another magic stick got used. How many are left?

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57 minutes ago, RescueMom said:

I loved how all of the women with long hair and Sea Bass had matching pigtails for the IC. 

 Kellyn’s hair made me think of the Duggar baby and her fake pigtails. 

 

The grossest part of the immunity challenge was how Angela wiggled her tongue when she stuck it out. 

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1 hour ago, ghoulina said:

I won't miss Libby's stupid, white, lacey shorts.

Ha hah... when she got voted out I said "See ya later frilly pants!!" I'm always glad to find people annoyed by the same things I am!

I'm still shocked/repulsed/impressed by the downing of that entire sea slug in no bites, but the aborted second effort to do the same along with her reaching back into her mouth to pull the second one out is on my list of things I'd rather have not seen. Oh and the dancing/celebrating was wayyy over the top. It's not like she HAD to win or anything that would make it so charged an atmosphere. And back to the repulsed side her talk of her slain victims lying around her? Creepy!!

Speaking of doing what you didn't need to do, dude I like a good burrito as much as anyone but Wendell really showed himself to be an A-level threat with how he damn near singlehandedly took down that reward challenge. The kind of thing that may come up later in a "yeah but remember how good he was at the taco challenge? He could win a lot of individual immunities that way..." convo.

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47 minutes ago, LanceM said:

No they won't because Jeff won't even ask her a question at the reunion.  The thing is though I don't think she is on the bottom despite the horrible edit she is getting. 

I don't think shes on the bottom of her alliance, no and she doesn't have the benefit of watching the editing so Im not knocking her gameplay.   Im just saying it would be an ironic statement if shes gone in the near future.

 

I think a lot of people question why naviti's not targeting it's own but it makes sense not to do so for both sides. The women believe they have a 4-3 advantage and don't know about either Dom or Wendell's idol, so in their view, if they can get the maolos to manageable numbers (maybe 2) they can then use those to get rid of the males then ride to the finals. 

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2 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

Given Angela's perception of the game so far and how she's been wrong on many counts, I can see why she thought her game depended on her beating Michael.  Who knows what went on behind the scenes back at camp.  I was impressed with her tonight, though she gets caught stirring stuff up (which I usually equate to people stirring up wrong info, not correct info) might end up costing her.

The thing is, I suspect it won't end up costing her, especially since it seems like she didn't have much to lose in the first place.

As much as I've enjoyed watching Michael play, I saw shades of Chris in his interactions with Angela this episode—just talking at her rather than showing any interest in having a discussion with her. Admittedly, she was egging him on to do it (so that he'd say something she could use against him), but it seems like everyone sees her as a piece of furniture rather than a fellow player. I don't think she'll win, even if she does make it to the end  because she doesn't seem to have any friends (or even allies) and I don't think she'd get credit for the way she stirred things up at camp—people seemed to believe and remember what she said, but not that she was the one who said it. It's a useful skill to bring to an alliance, but since she's more or less on her own, I don't think she'll get credit for it.

I'm not surprised Laurel and Donathan stuck with Wendell and Domenick instead of rallying around Michael. They spent so long away from the Malolo beach and Michael specifically pre-merge, that "Malolo strong" can't possibly mean anything to them. I like Laurel a lot, but I am worried that she saw (correctly) that Domenick and Wendell had too much power in the game and didn't do anything about it. That's the hallmark of player who only tries to make a move when his/her own neck is on the line ( usually after voting out everyone who could have helped them pull off said move). I really don't want her to end up being that player.

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17 minutes ago, Oscirus said:

I don't think shes on the bottom of her alliance, no and she doesn't have the benefit of watching the editing so Im not knocking her gameplay.   Im just saying it would be an ironic statement if shes gone in the near future.

 

I think a lot of people question why naviti's not targeting it's own but it makes sense not to do so for both sides. The women believe they have a 4-3 advantage and don't know about either Dom or Wendell's idol, so in their view, if they can get the maolos to manageable numbers (maybe 2) they can then use those to get rid of the males then ride to the finals. 

Oh It still might be. She may not be on the bottom now but that could definitely change as we get further in the game and I could see her getting voting out for not making a move.  I agree with your second point as well. There are 11 people still in the game. There is time to vote out the big threats. There really is no need to do it now.

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2 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

Jeff during the RC: “Sebastian is high every time.”  Yeah, we know what you meant there, Probst.  He looked high in the end credits when he held his vote up.

Haha I just think he looks stupid :)

 

2 hours ago, ghoulina said:

Boy, Michael really made a mistake in confiding in her, didn't he? Of course, he was probably on everyone's radar. And Angela gave me shades of Kaos Kass with her desire to just start stirring stuff up. 

 

2 hours ago, LadyChatts said:

  I was impressed with her tonight, though she gets caught stirring stuff up (which I usually equate to people stirring up wrong info, not correct info) might end up costing her.

I'm always curious when someone starts to talk about "stirring things up" - seems to me it could be good or bad, depending on the skill of the stirrer.  But after her whole TH about "war" - there was no war, just everyone mad at Michael.  I get her strategy if it was "get them mad at someone besides me'' - but if he had been voted out, what would have been her move next week?

 

2 hours ago, vb68 said:

I think Michael's "I'm  probably only going to get to play Survivor once." means he'll be back.

The best editors in the world couldn't know that!  I think it means he'd like to come back :)

 

1 hour ago, EllipticalAddicted said:

Yes.   She is dead to me after the way she went after Michael tonight.

That's how I'm feeling too :)

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