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the lack of loren and Alexi was nice tonight - proves they bring nothing to this show. they're so boring.

also - am I the only one who doesn't think Pedro's sister is his wife/gf? She looks ALOT like him...

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3 minutes ago, SoshulMeedya said:

I don't think Danielle is dumb or disabled, I think she's completely devoid of common sense. And dysfunctional. Every now and then she says or does something that shows she has a measure of smarts, and she was able to navigate the fiance visa process. She's needy and very emotional. Plus her kids seem to have turned out pretty normal and nice. The girls, anyway.

I am a special ed teacher and work with giving assessment tests and in one of those tests is an IQ test.  70 is the borderline for Developmentally Delayed.  Danielle does not strike me as under 70 for an IQ but she does strike me as someone in her 80's in terms of IQ.   Lower end, for sure but she can still drive (as evidenced in the show, driving all over the damn southeast in search of Mo) and live her life although it may be a bit limited.  She very much strikes me as someone who is has arrested development around age 13 or 14 in terms of romantic love or what she perceives it to be.  She is alarmingly needy and overemotional about things in that arena.

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I forgot to add that the scene between Mo and Walmart Tom looked so pathetic almost between a girl and a guy who might possibly be torn apart. I seriously thought he was going to ask Mo to blow him or vis versa.

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1 hour ago, poeticlicensed said:

 So Pao had to move to Miami so she could take a job in New Jersey? 

lmao right? and her "agent" is such a joke. that party was fake af just like all the other scenes with her are fake

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3 minutes ago, 90dayFan said:

the lack of loren and Alexi was nice tonight - proves they bring nothing to this show. they're so boring.

also - am I the only one who doesn't think Pedro's sister is his wife/gf? She looks ALOT like him...

That makes sense. Infidelity is a big thing in the Dominican. Big, big thing. It's actually quite accepted that more than likely, your partner has a side chick.

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1 minute ago, VanSensei said:

That makes sense. Infidelity is a big thing in the Dominican. Big, big thing. It's actually quite accepted that more than likely, your partner has a side chick.

well I am saying I do not think she is his wife or gf like alot of people are saying. they look alike to me, like brother and sister 

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  I like Pedro; I honestly believe he loves Chantel.  His mother and sister on the other hand, are horrid; especially the sister.  I am sure it took a lot for Chantel to go before them and humble herself (I wouldn't have).  Instead of accepting her apology, Nicole threw it back in her face. That was rude and totally unwarranted.  They seem to be going out of their way to humiliate her, and I don't think it has anything to do with the pre-nup.   I can't help but believe they would treat her with a lot more respect if she were Caucasian. 

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I think Pedro and his family are slimy,  slutty, con artists. My guess is that Father Pedro, and the other man, Father sister of Pedro,  were foreigners who caught on quickly enough to get the h... out of the DR.

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Note to FamilyPedro,  when someone apologizes for the behavior of their family, you say "Thank you" and move on. SisterPedro and Pedro look like twins,  their eyes are identical. On Teen Mom 2, one of the girl's family is referred to as a coven. I'm giving that name to FamilyPedro also. FamilyChantal is no better, time for Pedro and Chantal to either divorce or cut respective families out of their lives. Oh, and what is in this for Wal Mart Tom?

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2 hours ago, poeticlicensed said:

So Pao had to move to Miami so she could take a job in New Jersey? 

For some "band" that found her on IG? That she has never even met face to face? And they are going to pay her before she goes to NJ to do the job?  Holy shit. I don't blame Russ one bit for being concerned. This is how people end up dead or disappear forever. Has Pao ever heard of the Craigslist killer or human trafficking? I know I sound paranoid but it's a crazy world out there.  

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1 hour ago, Mrs. Hanson said:

I am a special ed teacher and work with giving assessment tests and in one of those tests is an IQ test.  70 is the borderline for Developmentally Delayed.  Danielle does not strike me as under 70 for an IQ but she does strike me as someone in her 80's in terms of IQ.   Lower end, for sure but she can still drive (as evidenced in the show, driving all over the damn southeast in search of Mo) and live her life although it may be a bit limited.  She very much strikes me as someone who is has arrested development around age 13 or 14 in terms of romantic love or what she perceives it to be.  She is alarmingly needy and overemotional about things in that arena.

I agree. There is something seriously wrong with Danielle -- definitely some chips missing somewhere. It's what keeps me from being full-on amused by how pathetic she is. The arrested development idea is intriguing -- she is filled with so much angst and drama. It is like a young teen. How in the world she thought this guy was in love with her on any level in the first place confounds me. Really? How in the world is a dumpy 40-something unemployed woman from the middle of nowhere Ohio going to have ANYTHING in common with a twenty-something guy from Tunisia? Delusional. She got played. She put him in front of everything and got played. Now she wants to use her kids as an excuse for revenge. She didn't give them a thought when she gave up what little she had to get him over here. 

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I liked Jorge's friend Ramone. He seemed very kind, reasonable and sincere. I loved how kept a real smile on his face and guided Jorge to think of the message behind  the gift rather than the price. He encouraged Jorge by saying "I think Anfisa is holding out hope for you, too." Nice, nice guy.

 

He probably has a real wife.

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2 hours ago, Dashing Off said:

Are we sure Danielle isn't developmentally delayed?

She absolutely is and it's disgraceful that TLC continues to exploit her now that her issues are obvious to all. 

2 hours ago, Meowwww said:

FamilyPedro and their superior smirks kill me

Family Pedro is horrible.  I wanted to smack Sister Pedro through the TV. She makes River look like a saint. 

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Did Danielle have this twitching before? I don't remember seeing it in previous seasons just this year. I remember Lauren's ticks only. And I was laughing so hard seeing Jorge shopping for gift in consignment store, hope Anfisa doesn't find out or she will kick him out again. Except she just did find out tonight. She probably beat him with the purses he got for her there. He is so cheap and broke but still trying to buy her "love".

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Oh Chantel. You should have apologized and let the rest go. Pedro's family are not going to tell him to stop helping them because you think he's giving them too much. 

What a mess.

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Does anyone else find it weird how Mo is so set on staying in America? It's like he's so afraid to go back. Did he do something in his country that he is running from? He never talks about missing any family or friends in his country. His life seems like it's very lonely.

 

why is George shopping for gifts? Why does she still not have a ring? They both don't even wear rings. I'm not saying it from a materlistic way but when I look at my engagement ring/wedding band it reminds me of one of the best days of my Life Marrying my husband in Hawaii,If my husband brought me home a bracelet and I still didnt have a ring I'd be pretty pissed.  

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This damn show.

Danielle is the worst; I get secondhand embarrassed when I see her do amazingly dumb and transparently desperate things.  Using her kids and calling Mohammed before the trial was pretty gross, but she can't quit him.  Someone asked what they have in common...nothing...but, girlfriend saw her a sexy "Arabian prince" (let's borrow from Nicole and Azan) and any common sense be damned.

Man, FamiyPedro y FamilyChantel are the worst!  When Family Chantel felt Pedro is nervous or scared around them, my husband said "these are people who never been punch after talking too much".  I'm inclined to agree; Pedro gonna punch that creepy River.  Pedro's sister is a nasty bitch and clearly her mother never taught her anything about being respectful.  I think Chantel is as clever as dishwater, but she learned some Spanish to genuinely apologize, and those two uppity bitches couldn't even acknowledge it before going in on her.   But, Chantel is never going to get them on her side related to him giving them too much, as somehow both clearly believe they are deserving of that money and support.  I did **cackle** when Chantel walked away and said "good night"; it came off as "good day, sir, I said good day", so I fell out.  That said, FamilyPedro showed their asses laughing at her and calling her a princess going overboard.  Seriously.  Let Chantel divorce Pedro and send him back to DR; where is that rent money gonna come from?!

Pao and Russ don't mesh.   Period.  They have different values and come from very different places, and neither seem really willing to open their minds up.  Also.  Pao is an entitled bitch.  She's really low rent, right?  And she's probably going to get stolen by someone posing as a "client".

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1 hour ago, bichonblitz said:

Has Pao ever heard of the Craigslist killer or human trafficking?

Good thing there were a lot of cocktails at the party Pao attended with her "agent," because Pao is thirsty, thirsty, thirsty.

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2 hours ago, Adeejay said:

  I like Pedro; I honestly believe he loves Chantel.  His mother and sister on the other hand, are horrid; especially the sister.  I am sure it took a lot for Chantel to go before them and humble herself (I wouldn't have).  Instead of accepting her apology, Nicole threw it back in her face. That was rude and totally unwarranted.  They seem to be going out of their way to humiliate her, and I don't think it has anything to do with the pre-nup.   I can't help but believe they would treat her with a lot more respect if she were Caucasian. 

You know, I think you're right. Family Pedro are racists. That explains the dynamics.

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These summer Sundays (dog days of Summer August no less) are manna to the GAWDS for a messy bitch like me. Trainwreck to the left of me, garbage can fire to the right of me, tire fire in the north and dragons coming up from the south!!! YASSS!

I've been saying for weeks IG is Pao's agent and it turns out to be true if she is getting work via social media. All that Miami "agent" did for her was low level pimp her out. Yes, her ass may have been at the yacht club but baby, quiet as it is kept, it might as well have been the corner or Hunts Point. 

Walmart Tom ain't that astute if he is calling Danielle manipulative. Manipulative requires a level of mental acuity and cunning that Danielle simply does not possess. 

So Danielle realizes that going to court truly means her marriage is over. Not the refusing to have sex with her until 90 days after the wedding, NOT him running out to galavant with other women days after being married or telling the world she stinks and peed on him during sex. It is the court appearance! It really does take a building to fall on some people before they get it!

Danielle? It isn't Mo who failed and disappointed your kids, its you. Talking funds to run after a man while your children do without, getting evicted from their home(s), having cell phones and lights cut off because you running after foreign dack! 

Jorge doesn't miss Anfisa - he misses 'it'.  Buying her shit after every fight just reinforces and rewards her behavior. Stop feeding the lil monster. 

If Jorge is indeed Anfisa's 1st than I truly have seen the phrase "casting your pearls before swine" in action. 

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What did Pao do in Columbia?  Did she model?  If not, what makes her think she can model here?  Or, was she doing soft porn or escorting.  She says she has boundaries, but so far I haven't seen them and she seems to be keeping them a secret from Russ.  Russ could do so much better.

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1 hour ago, Suzywriter said:

I liked Jorge's friend Ramone. He seemed very kind, reasonable and sincere. I loved how kept a real smile on his face and guided Jorge to think of the message behind  the gift rather than the price. He encouraged Jorge by saying "I think Anfisa is holding out hope for you, too." Nice, nice guy.

 

He probably has a real wife.

I have to admit I had to back it up and watch the segment  again after reading the above. Ok he might be a good person but to say if this doesn't work you're  going to come back for this and this and this... Because that's how true love works. 

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5 hours ago, bethster2000 said:

Didn't you hear?  Chantel's culture doesn't matter, but Pedro's does.  Sleep in that one-room and write the check, Chantel, because Pedro's Mama needs a flat-screen TV!  

ETA: Chantel reached out to The Gruesome Twosome and even spoke in their own language, and was laughed at and treated with total disrespect.  Hmmmm...I wonder if that's another aspect of Pedro's "culture" that she should just have to tolerate.  Personally, I would have smacked both of those bitches upside their skanky heads, called off the wedding, and enjoyed the rest of the holiday with the family who love me, care about me, and respect me.  Let those two nasty babies have their bottle.

Chantel, these people are racist.  They will never respect you and your family.  My advice to Chantel.  Divorce Pedro, finish school, grow up a lot, get a job and some financial security, then think about getting married. 

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I was amusing myself thinking that Mo should just marry Wal-Mart Tom on another K1 visa and thinking about how ridiculous that was when it occurred to me that this is very reasonable programming for TLC and I should totally pitch that to them $$$!

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Chantel needs to think long term, if she wants kids. The DR nephew will have the 300.00 bike, her son will have the 100.00 one. Her DR neice will have the 500.00 jewelry store necklace,  her daughter will have the 40.00 one from Kohls.  His DR nephew will have a new car, her son will have the five year old hand me down. 

Nothing's wrong with a 100.00 bike, a Kohls necklace, or a five year old car, but Chantel may find it hard to accept that his culture puts his birth family before his marriage family.

As soon as she starts earning a paycheck, Pedro will likely quit contributing anything to the household, because, hey baby, it's my culture.

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6 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

Danielle? It isn't Mo who failed and disappointed your kids, its you. Talking funds to run after a man while your children do without, getting evicted from their home(s), having cell phones and lights cut off because you running after foreign dack! 

Yes, exactly!! As I recall, the kids couldn't have cared less when Mohammed first arrived. While I'm sure they want their Mom to be happy, they knew (as we all did), that Mohammed was using her. Makes me downright sad and upset that her kids suffered because of Mohammed. If your kids are doing without the basics (stable home, utilities), you have zero business spending money on a boy toy. And yes, Danielle, Tom was right to call you out on it. 

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3 minutes ago, Swim mom said:

As soon as she starts earning a paycheck, Pedro will likely quit contributing anything to the household, because, hey baby, it's my culture.

Yup. That is exactly what will happen. But if she's still working for her mom, it may already be happening.

I had an acquaintance who married her Jamaican vacation sex buddy after knowing him for 2 seconds. He was sending home money too. And then, she found out he opened all kinds of credit cards in her name and ran up tens of thousands in debt. They didn't last the 2 year period.

Chantel better watch her credit report.

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As an ole ass video hoe no less.  She's probably being cast as the mother of video vixen number 3.

Spit out my morning coffee after reading that.  Funny as hell, but oh so accurate.  She fools no one with her "innocent" act.  She was and is up to no good and Okie is too dumb to see it.  Actually, all he is seeing is her body but fails to realize she's just using him.  

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So, now Pao is networking at fake hooker parties a jacht clubs and music videos in New Yersey. Fucking Skank!

Chantel cut your losses and leave dumbass Pedro in the DR. Family Chantel should cut-off Chantel if she don't leave him there. 

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8 hours ago, islandgal140 said:

So Danielle realizes that going to court truly means her marriage is over. Not the refusing to have sex with her until 90 days after the wedding, NOT him running out to galavant with other women days after being married or telling the world she stinks and peed on him during sex. It is the court appearance! It really does take a building to fall on some people before they get it!

Danielle? It isn't Mo who failed and disappointed your kids, its you. Talking funds to run after a man while your children do without, getting evicted from their home(s), having cell phones and lights cut off because you running after foreign dack! 

And this is why I have absolutely NO sympathy for her.    I thought the same thing when she made the comment that going to court the next day meant it was over. It's been over from the beginning! And you are perfectly correct. She didn't have money to buy her kids food and shoes but she had money to pay to get his ass over here. Also, as someone else pointed out, she managed to navigate the government's paperwork to get him here. I have 2 degrees and every time I get a letter from a government agency it takes me an hour to figure out what the agency is attempting to communicate.  And one of my degrees is  in English !!!   But she managed to do it for her boy toy.

Remember her comment when he talked about her stealing the credit card? She said but I had to pay for food for my kids.  In her mind, theft was justified because her kids need to be fed.  

She is entitled and immature and totally unlikable at every level.

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50 minutes ago, Kid said:

And this is why I have absolutely NO sympathy for her.    I thought the same thing when she made the comment that going to court the next day meant it was over. It's been over from the beginning! And you are perfectly correct. She didn't have money to buy her kids food and shoes but she had money to pay to get his ass over here. Also, as someone else pointed out, she managed to navigate the government's paperwork to get him here. I have 2 degrees and every time I get a letter from a government agency it takes me an hour to figure out what the agency is attempting to communicate.  And one of my degrees is  in English !!!   But she managed to do it for her boy toy.

Remember her comment when he talked about her stealing the credit card? She said but I had to pay for food for my kids.  In her mind, theft was justified because her kids need to be fed.  

She is entitled and immature and totally unlikable at every level.

Terrible excuse. #1- Food banks/pantries are everywhere. #2- Emergency food stamps are available for those in need. #3- Schools have free lunch programs + programs to feed kids during the summer months. If Danielle can navigate the visa process, she can certainly figure out how to fill out paperwork for food stamps or look up food pantries in the area. 

My bet is that the credit card was used to pay internet, cell phone, new tv's, etc. 

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Pao is going to be in a less than reputable music video...okay, fine she is an adult, whatever but more importantly she never said how much she would be getting paid and does she even know what the pay scale should be and are they paying her travel and hotel expenses?  That is why models and actors have agents (legit agents not that shady fake party girl she has), they make contracts and vet clients.  Pao is an idiot and this will end badly and my guess off camera because the shady regaeton (what ever the eff that is) band manager might not be an upstanding citizen.  She is asking to be taken advantage of.

When Anfisa was poolside with her friend and she asked if Jorge was any good she sort of shrugged and said he was her first man, hmmm.  Two things came to mind one, yeah right and two, she had to specify "man."  I don't care if she stepped in to the lady pool but the innocent act is hard to buy.

Danielle and Mohammad. Speechless at this point.  I am fast forwarding thru all of their scenes from here on out until I see him getting on a plane and she is checking in to some mental health facility.  She said she is doing it for her kids, hah!

Chantal and Pedro deserve each other and I want to see a fight at the wedding ala Big Fat Gypsy Wedding. Someone please make them stop calling each other "Baby." I am grossed out by it now.  She is an odd duck, her fake sleeping in bed with a camera on her was too funny.  The fight in the lobby between her and the Family Pedro was amusing, she was mad because they were disrespecting her and she lashes out while walking away with a Tourette's like tirade (sorry Loren).  

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11 hours ago, Caseysgirl said:

I think that Pao should be careful about accepting jobs from "music video producers" who contact her on line for jobs. The recent kidnap & drugging of a model to be sold as a sex slave is just one example of the dangers of making yourself accessible for so called "modeling" jobs.  I think her husband was right to be skeptical.  Of course, going with a TLC crew with you might help prevent any problems but with you aren't being filmed I would err on the side of caution.

I give up on Pao completely. She is utterly selfish and deluded.

11 hours ago, itsadryheat said:

Best ShitShow on tv! I want to see a hookup with River and Pedros alleged sister.

River would rather hook up with Pedro or I miss my guess.

So, Chantel sent Pedro to talk to her father and brother so they could explain her feelings? (flipping tables here). Girl. He's your husband.

Mama Pedro and Nicole behaved badly but my god Chantel had it coming. Pedro has endured endless insults at the hands of her toxic, classless, rude family. They know that Chantel's parents have insulted them to Pedro's face, and called him a con artist and a user. Not once has Chantel stood up for her husband. Not once has she defended him.  She goes to bed and plays with her phone after throwing her husband under the bus, expecting her parents and him to duke it out. She loves that its all about her, though. All Chantel, all the time.

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10 minutes ago, Baltimore Betty said:

Pao is going to be in a less than reputable music video...okay, fine she is an adult, whatever but more importantly she never said how much she would be getting paid and does she even know what the pay scale should be and are they paying her travel and hotel expenses?  That is why models and actors have agents (legit agents not that shady fake party girl she has), they make contracts and vet clients.  Pao is an idiot and this will end badly and my guess off camera because the shady regaeton (what ever the eff that is) band manager might not be an upstanding citizen.  She is asking to be taken advantage of.

Yes, and because Pao is supposedly under contract with the shady agent, isn't she, by virtue of her contract, obligated to give her agent 10% of what she makes? What she should have done is to tell the band that reached out to her to contact her agent. It's up to the agent to vet the client. That's what they get paid for. The whole thing makes no sense.  

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13 hours ago, Dashing Off said:

Pedro and Chantel's families are both disrespectful. If they don't care about her culture, why should she care about there's? Not that Chantel made anything better. She just made it worse. But Pedro's family didn't even try to listen. Honestly, both are toxic.

Exactly!  The sister is the worst!  Make no mistake about it, Chantel is the reason your sorry ass is living in that apartment.  Apparently she doesn't understand the saying "don't bite the hand that feeds you". At least be grateful and STFU. Yes it is Pedro sending home money but if it wasn't for Chantel, he would not be able to do that and he would need that money to live on. 

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Pedro lost me when he wouldn't let Chantel leave the room during their argument. He was obnoxious & overbearing. She wanted him to let her go, asked more than once, & he continually got in her way. Chantel & her family have issues, but all of Pedro's behavior is showing zero respect for his wife.

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"My first man" is a literal translation of a Russian expression meaning "my first sex partner". Meaning, the emphasis isn't on the word "man", like it sounds in English.

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Agree, gonecrackers! Also, the Dominican Republic culture must also approve of stabbing your finger in someone's face and interrupting your elders.

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14 hours ago, Quilty said:

I can't stand Pao. When she talks all I hear is " Blahblah sexy blah blah sexy photos blah blah in Columbia . Blah blah opportunity blah me me me. What a phony bitch she is.

Not to mention that her evidence of her working was the sexy photo shoot she went on and PAID for. I wouldn't exactly call paying someone to for a service as work. 

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Paola is basically being advertised to the highest bidders. I wouldn't be surprised if we find out 2-3 years down the line that she agreed to soft core porn to advance her career. She's playing a dangerous game in the name of becoming a model.

Honestly, I cannot get over the blatant disrespect of Pedro's grandma and I bet his family can't  either. That's where the true attack was coming from, imo. Pedro's mother wanted to bury the hatchet and move on, but Chantal's family couldn't. The fact that they didn't come out of the car to greet an elder probably meant they were dead to Pedro's family.

I think Chantal needs to go back to Spanish class. Pedro's sister didn't call her a bitch. She said the word period.

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11 hours ago, Kairay said:

Oh Chantel. You should have apologized and let the rest go. Pedro's family are not going to tell him to stop helping them because you think he's giving them too much. 

What a mess.

that made me realize how ridiculous Chantal is-yeah Pedro please dont buy us things so Chantal can have them-stupid americans indeed. smh.

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I can't even hate on Anfisa, she is a one client hooker, she has made it implicitly clear that she is only in the relationship for money. Intentional or not Anfisa is Jorge's Dom and she is going to dish it out as long as he continues to take it.

I'm baffled by Russ, I think he is a really attractive guy, I would sleep with him in a heartbeat if I was single, he also seems like a genuinely loving and kind person. Besides the unemployed thing I think he is a catch, he's isn't even socially awkward. I don't get why he is with Pao, I would think he would have no problem getting an American girl who treats him like he deserves to be treated and not some delusional wannabe "model" who one even become like a hostess or something to contribute to the household.  

Pedro and Chantel's relationship is doomed, I don't know what to say. They just aren't compatible on a really fundamental level. I think they love each other and if they can get over this they will probably friends for a long time but they aren't going to be married in 5 years and they should stop putting so much energy into this thing that is clearly not working and isn't going to work.

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31 minutes ago, Palomar said:

Paola, please stop using the word "sexy"    sexy photo shoot, sexy pictures, sexy new hair, sexy clothes.  We get it.

I'm reminded about my other favorite show about clearly doomed marriages, Say Yes to The Dress where half the women want sexy wedding dresses. Come on, it's a wedding, everything doesn't have to be sexy, buy some nice lingerie for the honeymoon, you don't need to look like your wedding dress came from Fredericks of Hollywood.

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